Sep
30

Vazquez gets bombed as Yanks drop finale to Blue Jays

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A few people will miss Javy Vazquez, but I’m sure the overwhelming majority were glad to see Joe Girardi come out of the dugout and remove him from the game for the final time in his Yankee career. Vazquez gave up hard-hit ball after hard-hit ball in his 4.2 innings of work, which resulted in seven Blue Jays runs. The bullpen would hold them down, but the offense couldn’t capitalize on a rally and ended up dropping their 10th game of the season against the Blue Jays 8-4.

Biggest hit: All those homers

(AP Photo/The Canadian Press/Nathan Denette)

Entering the game Vazquez had allowed 29 home runs, giving him the highest HR/9 rate in the league among pitchers with 150 IP. That went up in a hurry. A night after he recorded the Blue Jays only run on a homer off CC Sabathia, Travis Snider took Vazquez deep in the Jays’ first at-bat. Vazquez gave up a number of hard-hit balls that inning, but did manage to escape without allowing another run. That would have to wait until the second.

With none on and two outs in the second John Buck whaled a low, outside pitch over the wall in right-center, giving the Jays a 2-0 lead. Then in the fifth, this time with two men on, Vazquez gave up another long fly, this one to Aaron Hill. That made the game 7-0. That is almost certainly the last pitch he’ll throw as a Yankee.

I know there are plenty of fans who revel in Javy’s failures in pinstripes, but I’m as saddened by the end of his second stint as I was at the first. After 2004 I was sure that he would bounce back with a solid 2005. Trading him for Randy Johnson, I thought, was not such a great idea. This time around I realize that he has to go. He’ll sign for cheap somewhere, and while in a way I’d like that to be with the Yankees, I realize the impossibility of the idea.

Biggest bummer: Swish kills the rally

The Yanks actually fought their way back into the game in the sixth inning, right after Royce Ring came in and ended the game-killing fifth. A-Rod led things off with his 30th homer of the season, which gave him his 14th 30 HR, 100 RBI season, and his 13th straight. After Brett Cecil plunked Robinson Cano and walked Austin Kearns the Yanks had a shot. Cervelli started the carousel, singling in Cano and moving Kearns to third.

The mighty Greg Golson followed with his own single, which set up the Yanks with first and second with one out and drove Cecil from the game. In came Jason Frasor, who gave up a single to Derek Jeter. Nick Swisher came to the plate as the tying run, and he was backed by Teixeira and Rodriguez. But Swisher swung at the first pitch and grounded it to Aaron Hill, who started an inning-ending 4-6-3 double play.

This, that, and the other

(AP Photo/The Canadian Press/Nathan Denette)

Andrew Brackman? Anyone? Bueller?

Francisco Cervelli in September: .367/.512/.433 in 43 PA. BABIP: .440. Hot and cold, hot and cold.

Alex Rodriguez has 40 fewer PA than Miguel Cabrera but has driven in just three fewer runs. A-Rod might be having a sub-par season by his standards, but he’s still coming up with men on base (.300/.372/.571).

If Mark Teixeira catches A-Rod’s throw Joba’s appearance looks a lot better.

At this point, is Sergio Mitre a better option than Chad Gaudin for the postseason roster? Ideally they’d carry neither — in fact, I submit that Royce Ring is a better choice then both.

Box and graph

I coulda done without this one.

More at FanGraphs. Boxy thing here.

Up next

It’s an off-day as the team heads back stateside and into Boston. Andy Pettitte and Daisuke Matsuzaka do battle on Friday.

Categories : Game Stories
  • bonestock94

    Good Riddance.

    • Not Tank the Frank

      This.

  • forensic

    Again, no biggie, but why start 2/3rd’s of an MLB lineup behind a MiLB pitcher (yes, that’s what I think of Vazquez) when you know you won’t be able to overcome his suckiness against Cecil? I would’ve rather they rested more guys tonight, started an MiLB lineup, and played a few more of the MLBer’s on Friday instead of how it looks like they’re going to do it. It’s almost giving up 2 games instead of one, not that it matters too much(though it could since TB keeps losing too). The only one I’m happy that played is A-Rod because I wanted him to get every chance for 30, which he got out of the way right away.

    • Randy A.

      Agreed. It seems somewhat counterintuitive to go with a horrible starting pitcher and only sit Gardner and Granderson while still playing a majority of the starters, then openly stating that guys like Tex and A-Rod will get Friday’s game off when Pettitte, a very good starter, takes the ball.

    • LarryM.,Fl.

      Apparently Girardi’s view of this game was inflicted with too much patience with Javy. If he doesn’t hang with him their could have been a different outcome. Hill’s 3 run HR a killer.

  • Carlosologist

    I stood by Javy all season. I tried to defend him when was teh suck in April, did a nah-nah-nah dance when he was ace level from May to July, and just shook my head as we all saw him fall apart this month and last month.

    I hope he does well wherever else he goes to play. Can’t really ask for more. :/

    I also believed that A-Rod would get his 30 bombs after he got off the DL. And he rewarded us with a power resurgence (I smell 35-40 bombs next season). Here’s hoping it carries over to the postseason.

  • ZZ

    Still trying to figure out why Vaz was left out there to give up 7 runs.

    Got nothing so far. Maybe after a night of sleep I’ll wake up clear headed with the slightest clue as to why.

    • Dream of Electric Sheep

      Joe doesn’t really care about HFA , he started his semi A lineup because he wants to keep guys in rhythm ? That’s my take.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Meh.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        Meh.

    • Brian

      Not that difficult to figure out the guy has to earn a spot on the playoff roster and there is an opening for a 4th starter with Burnett bombing out on Monday night. Despite CC’s effort on Tuesday the pen has been used way to much from before the 5th inning on in the past 8 games. At some point someone on this roster has to step and pitch out of a difficult situation which is required to be on the postseason roster. With the Rays losing this was Javy’s chance to at least gain some confidence in the coaching staff. All Javy had to do was make a good pitch to a guy batting well under .300 but again he didn’t and for some reason people question why he was in there. Javy isn’t a 23 or 24 year old kid he is a 34 yr old vet who should be able to handle that situation.

  • Gonzo

    Did you just use RBI’s to compare two players’ seasons?
    Whaaaa?

    • ultimate913

      It’s pretty much the only bright thing about this team right now. I don’t blame Joe at all.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joe Pawlikowski

      The “RBIs are meaningless” sentiment, like most ideas, has been taken too far.

      • Ellis

        Thank you for saying that. Traditional stats still have meaning, everyone! They’re not pointless!!

        Heck, let’s say a pitcher throws 6IP, 14 hits, 0 BB, 6 strikeouts. With 2 grand slams. I bet his xFIP would be stellar, but that start would be terrible and we need some traditional stats to show us that sometimes.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          Heck, let’s say a pitcher throws 6IP, 14 hits, 0 BB, 6 strikeouts. With 2 grand slams. I bet his xFIP would be stellar

          It wouldn’t be.

          • Ellis

            xFIP in that situation: 1.659

            I used this formula: http://saberlibrary.com/pitching/xfip/

            • Ellis

              (I assumed that the two grand slams were the only two fly balls he allowed in the game)

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joe Pawlikowski

                That’s a pretty heavy and almost certainly wrong assumption.

                • Ellis

                  Well, I’m creating a hypothetical start, so I can kind of assume whatever I like. Just saying that if a start like that happened, you need traditional stats.

                  I’m not an anti-Sabr guy, I like using all stats to tell the whole story.

                  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joe Pawlikowski

                    14 hits, 2 fly balls, 100% HR/FB ratio? If you’re going to create a hypothetical start, at least create a realistic one.

                • Ellis

                  And even if he gave up 8 fly balls, his xFIP would be 3.04.

                  I’m just saying that when you ignore hit balls and neutralize too much data, valuable information is lost.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joe Pawlikowski

          FIP in that situation: 5.44

  • Dream of Electric Sheep

    I guess proper decorum demands you don’t kick a man when he is down.
    But I have been utterly disgusted by his second half no shows. Good luck Javy ! I don’t ever want to see this man in a Yankee uniform again.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      But I have been utterly disgusted by his second half no shows

      That’s a little unfair. Yes, he’s pitched like crap and he deserves to get criticized for that, but he’s had absolutely nothing for a while and he’s really had to work to get outs. He’s definitely trying.

      • Dream of Electric Sheep

        Prolly Bex , There are many variables to the end narratives.I can look at any pitchers who are not performing well and give some reasons as to why. The simple fact is , we can’t even count him as contributor at this point. It’s sad for the Yankees and sad for him.

  • stuart

    royce ring is a better choice then either of the 2 stoogews. use ring earlier in the gameagainst a lefty so you can save logan for a maximum leverage situation.

    gaudin and mitre give you nothing and will never give you anything. mitre is better then gaudin but they both stink.

    maybe the hillbilly burnett can be the long man in the alds!!!!!!!!!

    how about kearns the key ingredient against lefties, he is really paying dividends. no need to play gardner the results lately with kearns in there have been great.

    kearns and berkman have shown almost zero power in there time in NY…….

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      !!!!!!!!

      ……………………….

      • Ellis

        yeah, this. what?

  • PaulF

    Congratulations to Alex on keeping his 30/100 streak alive. I hope it goes on for as long as possible because it means he’s mostly healthy and productive. A-rod is awesome. I know he hit a meaningless HR tonight, but this guy is slugging .857 in high leverage situations this year, with a wOBA of .484. It’s cherry picked and its 55 PA’s, but it’s helped the team win.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

    A few people will miss Javy Vazquez, but I’m sure the overwhelming majority were glad to see Joe Girardi come out of the dugout and remove him from the game for the final time in his Yankee career.

    I’m more sad that it didn’t work then glad to see him leave for the final time.

    Javy seems like a nice guy who did everything he could to try and be a good pitcher for us; it just didn’t work out. I can’t shit on someone who gives their all to help the Yankees. If he didn’t try, sure, maybe that would make me glad to see him go.

    Sadness is my emotion.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

      Yeah, he’s a story that you’d like to root for…there’s nothing sweeter than redemption and seeing Mike Francessa proven wrong. Wasn’t in the cards. I’m disappointed they lost Vizcaino for Vazquez, but I have no venom towards him. He’s just a guy with nothing left in the tank. If he’d have been born left handed he’d have a Hall of Fame career.

    • dan

      HE SUCKS.WHO CARES ABOUT THE EFFORT HE GAVE UP , AND HE IS PAID MUCHO TO PERFORM……………..

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

    Wow…they traded Arodys Vizcaino for this? I was worried about him in the AL East and at the Stadium, but fuck…even I didn’t think he’d be this bad. I wanted to root for redemption but it just wasn’t in the cards. They should have brought back Hot Carl.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      I’d be all for bringing back Hot Carl this winter if Andy decides to hang ‘em up and we don’t want to hand a rotation spot back to Joba.

      He’s a good pitcher; he was just hurt.

      • Dream of Electric Sheep

        1 year contract, which is not likely. So , no.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

          With Pavano’s history he’s never getting any more than a two year deal.

          • Dream of Electric Sheep

            With his body of works last couple years, I can almost guaranteed you he will.

            • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

              He signed a four year deal and pitched 150 innings, guys who pitch 150 innings over a four year contract typically don’t get four year deals again. If there’s a GM who doesn’t research his players, then yes…Pavano may get a big deal, but I doubt it.

              • Dream of Electric Sheep

                I think he will get a two year deal. There simply too much demand vs supply in this equation.

                He will , as to whom, who knows, I see 30 teams needing starting pitcher. 2-18 with inning incentives seems reasonable to me.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                The two years before that 4 year deal, he pitched 201 and 222 innings. The two years after the 4 year deal, he pitched 199 and 214 innings.

                That 4 year Yankee contract looks like a massive aberration.

                • Dream of Electric Sheep

                  It’s high stake gambling with pitching ,Tommie.
                  The avoidance of risk can be controlled with lesser years. That’s the only two things you can control , dollars and years, I thought cashman took a big gamble given his spotty health history. But that’s all within the context of Yankees financial might , their win now M.O. and it’s ability to buy it’s way out of mistakes.

                • Ed

                  Outside of the 4 years you mentioned, he’s never topped 136 IP. Looking his B-Ref page, ’98 looks like more or less a full season if you include his minor league time. ’99-’02 seem to have a lot of DL time.

                  From his track record, it looks like 2:1 odds he’ll miss a significant chunk of the season.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          True, his pricepoint will probably be higher than we’d entertain. I’d have no philosophical/emotional aversion to him, though, that’s the point of that comment.

          • waka flocka

            So you’re cool with Vazquez on the account that he tried hard and is a nice guy but you have no problems with Pavano, the guy who quit on the Yankees and only tried to pitch so he could land a ML deal with another team?

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

              Pavano didn’t quit either. He just got hurt.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

        Wow…the two most loathed pitchers in Yankeedom this side of Josh “I Sleep With My Mouth Open” Beckett and Maple Cheddar Douche Bag; and you like em both…well you my friend are a better man than I. I publicly bestow props upon you.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          I don’t loathe the men who put on the pinstripes. When you fight for my team, I fight for you.

          There’s enough Red Sox, Indians, and Braves for me to hate, I don’t need to waste any of my hate on Yankees.

          • Pete

            that.

        • Carcillo

          Wait, who the hell is Maple Cheddar Douche Bag?

      • Dream of Electric Sheep

        kuroda!

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        Hahah, lord, can you imagine the reactions?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          2000000000004!!!!!

          (Yes, I know he wasn’t on that team; doesn’t matter. Facts never get in the way of a good stupidheaded rant.)

          • Dream of Electric Sheep

            I barely remember 2004, I think I mentally blocked it out.
            I do remember my friend try to convince me Kevin Brown will be money in game 7… oh well.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

          Do you think there’s a couch strong enough to fit both Mike Francessa AND Peter Abraham at the same time for the duration of a baseball game?

          • Klemy

            This would require some strong framework.

  • Sean C

    I could reply to any number of comments on here… But I really, REALLY, wanted Javy to be the best #4 in baseball, but he just didn’t have the stuff to pull off being the best #5 in baseball. I do not blame the AL East or playing in New York. He just lost his stuff. Maybe all those miles on the arm finally caught up with him. He fell significantly short of his 200 IP promise, and simply did not have the velocity/finesse/whatever to be effective against major league batters. However, I do not consider his trade to be a waste; the Yankees thought they were getting a legit-to-elite middle/back end starter. And for a while, he was. It’s a shame his season was book-ended with a number of horrendous starts. Good luck, Javy, wherever you end up.

    • Cult of Basebaal

      Well put.

      It’s hard to imagine that there are many pitchers who could manage to cope with 2 separate velocity drops in 1 season and remain effective. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Javy sees a surgeon some time in the near future.

      http://www.fangraphs.com/pitch.....8;pitch=FA

      • dan

        WHY THEY ALREADY TOOK OFF HIS MANHOOD.

  • dan

    I WOULD LIKE HIM TO SIGN WITH THE YANKEES,I CANNOT BELIEVE U SAID THAT HE IS F………..ING AWFUL……..U DO NOT KNOW WHAT U R TALKING ABOUT……….GOWITH HIM!

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joe Pawlikowski

      Please turn off caps lock.

      • dan genovese

        no problem.just stop with the stupid man love for javy the horrible.

        • It’sATarp

          It’s not man love, it’s a disappointment that we had to see a good pitcher basically lose it all right before us. Last year he was one of the most dominant pitchers in the league then suddenly he just broke down. It’s not we love javy and wishes he stays but rather pity for a guy who went from one of the best pitcher in the league to the worst and it’s not as if he he was at the age of decline either.

          • dan genovese

            he was in the nl

  • larryf

    Swish and Tex leave 11 on combined. Awful.

    • Graig not Craig

      They should have been sitting.

  • Frank

    What bothers me more than anything is not Vazquez’ awful performance (I’m not at all surprised) as much as Girardi’s insistance the Yanks still are trying to win the division, playing his best players(most of whom need time off to rest), but essentially throwing a BP pitcher out there. The only thing worse was his decision in last Wednesday’s game vs. TB to bring in Gaudin down 3-2 in the 6th with a 2.5 game in the division. We all recall how that turned out.

    Girardi should just stop with the scripted BS about wanting to win the division and rest Cano, Tex, Swish and A-Rod. We all know the Yanks rather play the Twins anyway.

  • Wil Nieves #1 Fan

    I don’t agree with the statement that A-Rod is having a sub-par year. While hitting .270 is not what we’re used to seeing out of A-Rod, it’s still very respectable with the 30 HRs and 120 RBIs, especially at the age of 35. And as mentioned above, hitting a sparkling .300 with men on base. Definitely not sub-par by any standards.

    As for the playoffs, I’d rather take Mitre. Particularly because Girardi doesn’t know how to properly use Gaudin — and by ‘properly use,’ I mean don’t use at all. I don’t care for Mitre, but nobody is as bad as Gaudin. At least by luck Mitre can pitch an inning of minimal damage.

    • Pete

      his overall performance has been down by his standards. OBPs in the .340s ain’t A-Rod’s thing.

  • Danny

    If I were Joe, when I pulled javi I would have
    Said. ” pack ur stuff and get out of my club house.
    Your a loser and you don’t belong here

    • dan genovese

      amen.amen. amen.if he is on the playoff roster they should lose on ignorance alone.

    • http://twitter.com/SteeeeveO Steve O.

      I had a dream before game time that Vazquez pitched 7 scoreless innings. Did my dream jinx his performance? I mean look at his performance for evidence.

      What I’m getting at is, blame me, Danny, not Javy. It’s not his fault.

    • It’sATarp

      with that standard we should pull AJ aside after his last 20 something starts and ask him for a refund and then kick him to the curb. the only difference i see with AJ and javy at this point is that one will slowly wilt away during a game (javy) while the other is seemingly implode in just 3 innings (AJ)

  • Klemy

    I really wanted Javy to pitch well. He gave it what he had and it just wasn’t good enough. Good luck on the way out.

    At least we won’t have to watch him throw batting practice during games any longer, because we already have AJ for that. ZING

  • CBean

    It’s never fun to see a pitcher fall apart like Javy has. I wished him well and I’m sad his return to NYC didn’t go better.

  • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

    I, for one, will miss Javy. I still feel like he never got a fair shake here. All the bullshit about him not being able to handle New York is just that. I thought it was a good trade and I still do. People are so quick to forget that he had a great summer and there were even a bunch of starts where he pitched 1 or 2 run ball and lost.

    Here’s hoping he’s able to pitch well for another team (but not against the Yankees)

    • Brian

      Love your optimism “Ross in Jersey” that is probably how you convinced Rachel to come back to you in the end. Javy was a terrible trade in that we gave up a lefty reliever and a promising young arm for a guy who has never won a big game in his life. Javy’s quality starts came against alsorans. He was shelled against every team above .500 all season. To give up to promising young pitchers for a guy who has never won a big game never made sense and once again this guy showed that he has absolutely no heart and just crumbled as the season went on.

      I tried to see the bright side of it as you are when the trade first happened since Melky being on the team or not wasn’t going to decide the Yanks chances of winning and there was an obvious need to secure the 4th spot in the rotation. Vasquez just was never the right guy for the job and the Yanks made a desperate move in December to get him and are now left in a desperate position to find an adequate 4th starter for the ALCS if they are lucky enough to get there.

      • dan genovese

        well stated…….i would have just said he was dog manure.

      • It’sATarp

        “promising young arm” that assuming Arody’s arm stays on his body. most people never even heard of Arody before the Javy trade then suddenly he’s like the second coming of randy johnson or something once the trade was made. The yanks have far for promising young arms that aren’t injured every year that it would make the trade worth the risk. And on a side note melky if he was still playing for us would have been worth -.7 WAR.

      • Not Tank the Frank

        Javy was the right guy for the job. He had just come off a fantastic season and even though no one expected him to repeat his success, no one could have expected him to regress so drastically. It was a good trade no matter how you look at it. I would trade a young, injury-prone arm that’s miles away from the big leagues, a 5th outfielder and a generic lefty reliever for a starter of Javy’s (previous) caliber every day.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          It’s Javy’s bad luck that he’s had injury/health/mechanical/decline issues during the two years he was here. The rest of his career outside of these two banged up years in pinstripes is stellar.

          • dan genovese

            who cares.he is a yankee perform like one or give back that salary!

      • Pete

        “Javy was a terrible trade in that we gave up a lefty reliever and a promising young arm for a guy who never won a big game in his life.”

        I’m gonna go ahead and break down the Javy trade, mmk?

        Yankees give up:

        Arodys Vizcaino: still a fairly promising prospect – pretty good stuff, multiple pitches, good command. Still miles away from the bigs, with one significant arm injury on his belt already.

        Melky Cabrera: sucks. just terrible. horrendously bad. was meh on the yankees, made up for it with a few big hits, and just got fat and shitty when he went to the braves. bad fielder, horrible hitter.

        Mike Dunn: Sean Henn.

        Yankees Get:

        Javier Vazquez: massively underperformed on the year, did not live up to his contract. But did so pretty conveniently: In April, CC, AJ, Andy, and Phil were all spectacular. From May through June, CC was only OK, Andy still rocked, and Phil and AJ completely shat the bed in June, and were otherwise decent. During that time, Javier was lights out, giving the Yankees at least three reliable starters for the entirety of that time. A disappointment for sure, but not altogether valueless.

        Boone Logan: way, WAY better than Mike fucking Dunn.

        Javy Vazquez trade: STILL a good trade for the Yanks.

        • Cecala

          Arodys still has not pitched a full season yet. I agree with this post 100%. The Yankees basically took a flyer on Vazquez and his contract is not even as bad as people are making it out to be because we lost $3 mil on Melky Cabrera’s raise (thank god).

          If Javy lived up to last year this trade would have been amazing considering the rise of Boone Logan and having a legit Cy Young candidate as our #4.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

          Yankees give up:

          Arodys Vizcaino: still a fairly promising prospect – pretty good stuff, multiple pitches, good command. Still miles away from the bigs, with one significant arm injury on his belt already.

          Yankees Get:

          Javier Vazquez: massively underperformed on the year, did not live up to his contract. A disappointment for sure, but not altogether valueless.

          Boone Logan: way, WAY better than Mike fucking Dunn.

          Javy Vazquez trade: STILL a good trade for the Yanks.

          At best that’s a wash, and that’s assuming you’re right…which, you aren’t. Vazquez had a -.5 WAR, and a 5.57 FIP yet a 5.32 ERA suggesting that he out performed his true ability and was something less than valueless.

  • http://twitter.com/Mattpat11 Matt DiBari

    People seem to like the idea of Javier Vazquez the Yankee alot more than the reality. If he gets too much flak from the casual fan, he gets way too much benefit of the doubt from the “enlightened” internet fan.

    • dan genovese

      he sucks plain and simple.

      • It’sATarp

        What a very well thought out and intelligent response.

        • dan genovese

          thanks.nothing but the truth!

  • Graig not Craig

    This should teach the Yankees not to give pitchers without four “t”‘s in their last name a second chance.

  • Pete

    Javier Vazquez, with ZERO foretelling evidence pre-2010, went from sitting 91-92 and touching 94 often, to go along with 3 good offspeed pitches and good control and command, to sitting 86-87, sometimes touching 90, and losing command of his offspeed pitches. That’s it. It has NOTHING to do with Javy’s personality, or what have you, and it does not mean Javy “sucks, plain and simple”.

    He does suck. Right now. He has sucked for 2+ months, and sucked in April, too. His ridiculously diminished stuff suggests NOW that he’ll continue to suck for the foreseeable future, unless he’s secretly injured. That being said, there was absolutely NOTHING that suggested he’d be this bad before coming here. I’m not saying he was going to have a repeat of his 2009 year, because of course he wasn’t. But going into the season Javy would have been an excellent bet to give us 200+ innings of 4.10-4.30 ERA ball. Not many teams have #3s who can do that, let alone #4s/#5s.

    Javy’s year hasn’t proven the pre-2010 naysayers right, unless there was somebody out there who was saying before the season started that he’d lose 5+ mph off his fastball this year. I don’t remember anybody saying that, though. And that is 209383203% of the reason why he has sucked this year. Stuff. Not guile, not personality, not prior suckitude. Just stuff.

    • dan genovese

      he spit the bit twice!

  • Ace

    I hope this is the end of Vazquez’s career. It will piss me off to see him come back with another team and do well. This a-hole has f’d us over one too many times. Take your money and get the hell out of NY. POS.

    • Pete

      Since when does losing velocity due to excessive mileage on the arm of a guy not quite normal-sized for a MLB pitcher = being an asshole? I guess every single person on this site is an asshole, since not one of them can regularly top 90 mph with good command and offspeed stuff, then.

  • dan genovese

    we r being paid 12 million to be that freaking bad.

  • http://javynicecareer godfather

    so it has come to the point where javy has gone from a dead-arm period to a dead arm — period. so be it; he’s had a solid career, and i’m sure he’d like to erase the nyy portion, too; pavano, too, called “american idle” by moose, would like to forget nyy, too, perhaps; no way nyy would have the balls to bring him back, although he’d be the current no. 2; funny how health works