Sep
29

2011 Draft: Pirates clinch first overall pick

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With last night’s Mariners win, the Pirates have officially clinched the first overall pick in the 2011 draft. Pittsburgh and Seattle could still finish with identical records, but the Bucs would be awarded the top pick in that case because they had a worse record last season. Next year’s draft class is absurdly deep with high-end elite talent, offering no fewer than five players that would be legitimate first overall talents in a normal draft class and about 15 or 20 that would be top ten picks (at this point, these things always change in the spring).

As for the Yankees, they are currently unable to pick any higher than 27th overall and no lower than 33rd overall. Of course everyone and their mother expects them to sign some kind of Type-A free agent this winter, so that first round pick is probably moot anyway. It’s not an ideal class to forfeit a high pick, but you always take Cliff Lee over the prospect. Always.

Categories : Asides, Draft
  • 28 this year

    what do we get the 33rd overall pick for?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      If they win out and finish with the best record in baseball, they’ll have the 33rd pick. There are three compensation picks in the first round for players who didn’t sign last year.

      • http://twitter.com/Brad_Toughy Brad Toughy

        Is the draft order determined by regular season record, or do playoff outcomes alter it?

        i.e. if the Rays finish with the best regular season record, but the Twins win the world series, who gets the 33rd pick?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          It’s regular season records only, playoffs don’t change anything. The Rays would get the 33rd pick in that case.

  • Januz

    It is a near certainity the Bucs are taking Rendon (They have a ton of young pitchers in the system). I also pray Cole does not go there (The Pirates are the only NL club I like). The probability is that Cole & Purke are going to Seattle & Baltimore. Cole is a perfect fit for Seattle, a laid back, non-pressurized environment, with a rotten GM (Think he regrets the Cliff Lee trade?), and a near certainity of not winning a title (This team once won 116 games, had Griffey jr, Arod, Edgar Martinez, and Randy Johnson and still did not do it). ps. I really dislike the Mariners, the only teams I dislike more than them are the Red Sox & the Mutts. If Cole pitches in Seattle, and Paplebon leaves Boston, and K-Rod leaves the Mutts, Seattle might even surpass those two teams on my s–t list (Needless to say, those two guys and Ray Lewis are my bottom feeders in sports).

    • Pete

      I wouldn’t call Jack Z “rotten”. Overrated, sure. But rotten? Nah.

      • Chris

        Whether you liked the deal or not, the shenanigans he played at the end of the Cliff Lee deal were pretty shady.

        • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

          It was, but you know what? I’m cool with it now. Thanks Jack Z for not taking Montero from us. We’ll still get Cliff Lee in the end.

      • sleepykarl

        It was funny how pissed Rangers fans got as they watched Smoak homer in each of the three games Seattle just played in Texas.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        Yeah, he did what he did for his team. I’d rather sign Lee and keep Jesus anyways so I’m grateful for getting used.

    • JMK

      I am constantly impressed by your ability to include so many parenthesis in your comments.

  • bonestock94

    Is there gonna be some serious star power left in the 2nd round? Is it gonna matter with the way the Yankees conduct their drafts?

  • Mister Delaware

    “you always take Cliff Lee over the prospect. Always.”

    What if that prospect is Casey Kelly?

    • crawdaddy

      You then sign a IFA like Manny Banuelos, who will be better than Kelly.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

      That’s referred too as “The Sure Thing.”

  • Amol

    This draft class makes Javy’s struggles this year all the more painful. I would’ve loved for the Yankees to get some compensation picks.

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      Yeah, honestly, if Javy had even a decent year, this would have worked out exactly the way Cashman wanted it to. Get a decent 200 innings from Javy to take the pressure off everyone else, and come away with 2 picks no matter what. It didn’t work out, but it sure seemed like a good idea at the time.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

      I’d say the replacement level pitching and the though of heading into the playoff roster with only one reliable pitcher makes Javy’s year the worst. Oh, also all the idiots saying they were right and they knew Javy just couldn’t handle the pressure.

  • Reggie C.

    Boston is going to load up on another set of multiple first rounders. Boston is already picking somewhere between 20-27, and both V-Mart and Beltre project to be Type A free agents. I could see V-Mart re-sign, but all i’ve read indicates to Beltre hitting free agency and landing a 3 year deal.

    Not sure how deep the draft class is in “elite” players, but Boston could have 3 picks in the top 33.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvg7Empjfg Captain Jack

      Depends on the teams that sign each player…say V-Mart goes home to Cleveland (he cried when he was traded)or the Angels, and they’re out of luck. There’s nothing that says these players have to sign with good teams. As to Boston, I think they’ll try to get Werth too…just a hunch.

    • Januz

      I am not sure there will be that big of a market for either one of those guys. Lets use Beltre as in example: I will break down the teams into these categories. Can Afford Him/Needs Him. Can Afford Him/Doesn’t Need Him. Can’t Afford Him/Needs Him/. Can’t Afford Him/Doesn’t Need Him. CAN/NEEDS: Boston, Los Angeles (Both), Chicago (Cubs), Minnesota, San Francisco. CAN/DOESN’T NEED: Yankees, Mutts, Cincinnati, Detroit, Philadelphis, Texas, Washington. CANT/DOESN’T NEED: Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay. CAN’T/NEEDS: Everyone else: Gut feeling: The Angels will probably go after Crawford instead. The Dodgers are a mess, so they won’t sign him (Cubs also). Minnesota does not operate in this fashion, so it is almost a sure fire no. I think it will be Boston or San Francisco (Likely back to Boston).