Open Thread: NCAA Football Comes To The Bronx

Friday Notes: Pitching Coach, Payroll, Lineup, CC, More
Kontos pulls an Ankiel (or a Holland) in Arizona

That pic comes courtesy of the Yankees, and it’s obviously a shot of the field goal posts being put up in Yankee Stadium in advance of the two NCAA football games that will be played there this winter. Army and Notre Dame will meet on November 20th, and exactly a month later two teams will meet in the New Era Pinstripe Bowl. Apparently the field will be laid out like this, which is … interesting. Anyone out there going to either of the games? I sure as hell ain’t.

Anyway, here’s your open thread for the evening. It’s Friday, so I suggest going out and doing something fun. If you’re stuck inside, you could always seek the comfort of the Knicks, Nets, Rangers, Islanders, and/or Devils, all of whom are in action tonight. Talk about whatever, go nuts.

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Kontos pulls an Ankiel (or a Holland) in Arizona
  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    http://www.amazinavenue.com/20.....g-pitchers

    Amazing, or should I say amazin’.

    • CP

      “There are some decent free agent options available — Javier Vazquez, Jake Westbrook, Carl Pavano and Jorge de la Rosa are a few.”

      You know your team is bad when Javy Vazquez and Carl Pavano seem like decent free agent pitchers.

  • ryan

    is that really the football layout? the endzones are in the dugout?

  • Poopy Pants

    Yuck.
    College football = legalized slavery

    • http://twitter.com/Brad_Toughy Brad Toughy

      No one is forcing the kids to play. I played college ball for two years and loved it. If they’re really concerned about injuring themselves, don’t play—it’s really fairly simple.

    • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

      They’re just getting top-notch educations for free. But yeah, slavery.

      College football >>>> pro football.

      • Esteban

        Does the compensation of CFB approximate how much revenue major CFB programs generate? Of course the programs reap millions but if the players receive a free meal somewhere, they’re banned from the NCAA. Seems fair right. CFB exists as a free minor league for the NFL, and both the schools and the NFL are gonna keep it that way.

        • CP

          College football player receive more in compensation than minor league baseball players. A full ride college scholarship is worth far more than the pittance that minor league baseball players are paid.

  • first time lawng time

    Is there a reason why they don’t sell Yankees Road Jerseys in women’s sizes?

    The only ones I found are in the men’s section and I think those would be too big.

    Help?

    • Xstar7

      Can’t help you. Home jerseys look nicer anyway.

    • http://www.facebook.com/cecala Joseph Cecala
      • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

        ICWUDT

    • Jenny

      you can have the jersey taken in

    • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

      Kids sizes? I have a Jeter road jersey from when I was like 10 that still fits.

      • first time lawng time

        Yeah but all of the kids jerseys have the names on the back.

        • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

          Really? I have several that don’t. I always get kids jerseys.

  • Jenny

    Yankee Stadium will be a horrible place to watch a football game.

    • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

      Not to mention it being cold as all hell.

    • CP

      The same could be said about almost all football stadiums.

  • Xstar7

    I wonder what the attendance is gonna be at these games.

  • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

    I hate winter. Can someone tell me when it will be 95 and humid again?

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      +1

      • http://twitter.com/Brad_Toughy Brad Toughy

        -1

        It’s still nice and toasty where I live and I’m ready for some fall/winter weather.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

          the weather makes no sense, yesterday I had to turn on a fan and today it’s like winter

    • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

      It’s been 85 and humid here all week, if that will do.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_city

  • http://www.twitter.com/ngoral Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook

    I can’t wait until they blame a missed field goal on the RF wind tunnels

    • http://www.twitter.com/deanezag Zack

      He only hit the FG because it’s a bandbox

  • Carlosologist

    What channel is the Knicks game on?

    • Xstar7

      MSG

      • Carlosologist

        Weak. MSG has no HD channel.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Sure they do, I watch the Rangers on it all the time. Are you in the city? It’s channel 727.

          • http://www.facebook.com/cecala Joseph Cecala

            There is no HD on FiOS for whatever reason.

          • Carlosologist

            I’m in Jersey and have FIOs.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

              Ah that sucks. I watch something in standard def the other day and wanted to gouge my eyes out.

              • Carlosologist

                I haven’t seen anything standard since two summers ago.

        • http://www.facebook.com/cecala Joseph Cecala

          You think a team whose owner owns cablevision would have HD cameras…

          • usty

            They have HD, they just won’t provide the HD feeds to FiOS because they’re a competitor.

  • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

    And the Nets are up 20 points. What the fuck.

  • candyforstalin

    what are the chances that, in 2012, the a’s think 3m is too much to pay anderson and he ends up replacing pettitte in the rotation?

    • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

      -10%

      • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

        This seems about right. Somewhere in the -10% to -20% range.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Not real high.

  • Jerome S

    Joke of the century:
    Nets 2011 champions.

    Wat.

  • Carlosologist

    “…From Robin to Batman…”

    Was that a shot at LeBron? (Hint: Yes.)

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Mrs. OBP Jesus Maquinito

    Oh hai Nets, what is this winning thing?

    • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

      I think it has something to do with playing Detroit and Sacramento.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Mrs. OBP Jesus Maquinito
  • Xstar7

    The Nets aren’t a real basketball team.

  • LeftyLarry

    College football is a blast.Flew out to the Ohio ST / Wisconsin game in Madison 2 weeks ago and the game and atmoshphere were just amazing.
    Ny’ers don’t get the pagentry and historical significance of College football and that’s too bad.

    • http://twitter.com/Brad_Toughy Brad Toughy

      Agreed. What major college football program does NY have to hop onto? Maybe Rutgers? Syracuse? Please.

      I went to school out in the Big 12 and went to games at just about every one of those stadiums while I was in school. I live in the middle of SEC country now and those two are college football at its finest. I’m sure Big 10 is just as good.

      New York does a lot of things well. College football isn’t one of them.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Mrs. OBP Jesus Maquinito

        Syracuse got votes last week

        #syracusealumnahavetostandupformyschool

        • http://twitter.com/Brad_Toughy Brad Toughy

          Getting votes doesn’t mean that it’s a strong program or has a highly-passionate fanbase.

          It doesn’t even mean that the team is a solid one. Cuse was ripped apart by Pitt and by Washington – both of which aren’t very good teams. There’s no one on their schedule that would finish in the top half of the Big 10, Big 12 or SEC.

          And you don’t have to hash tag things when you are not on Twitter. Especially entire sentences.

          • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Mrs. OBP Jesus Maquinito

            Hahaha dude, Syracuse went 1-10 my sophomore year. Trust me, I know that it’s got a very long way to go, although it’s much better than what it was.

            The Big East as a whole is a very, very weak conference this year.

            I’m still going to enjoy that WVU win because they never had a win that big when I was there, and I’ll forget all about it when basketball season starts.

            And I’ll hashtag as I please =P

            • http://twitter.com/Brad_Toughy Brad Toughy

              #thefactthatthebigeasthasanautomaticbcsbidismoreworrisomethanlackofaplayoffsystemincollegefootball

              • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Mrs. OBP Jesus Maquinito

                #thataBigEastteamhasanautobidandBoiseStateisstillgonnagetscrewedmakesmesadface

      • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

        Where in SEC country are you?

        • http://twitter.com/Brad_Toughy Brad Toughy

          About a half hour east of Athens.

    • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

      Yupp. No one gives a crap about the NFL here. It’s all about the SEC (and the ACC to an extent).

      College football is amazing.

  • Jimmy McNulty

    I’m getting pretty sick of these “The Yankees don’t need Cliff Lee” articles over at the YankeeU. Basically the other options are this:

    Internally, which leaves us desirable candidates such as Phelps, Nova, Mosley, and Kei Igawa. While I have confidence in Nova’s ability to be a good sixth starter, I have absolutely zero confidence in his ability to pitch a full 200 innings and have an ERA below five. The same goes for Mosley and Phelps, not in the AL East. Adam Warren may be an option later in the year, but I really don’t want to go into next year relying in someone currently in the Scranton Wilkes Barre rotation, much less the Trenton Rotation.

    Zack Greinke, great…most of us were, at the very least, uncomfortable giving up Montero for Cliff Lee…so naturally, the idea is to trade Jesus Montero and other high ceiling young talent for a worse pitcher, when a better pitcher might be available for a salary the Yankees can afford. This makes as much sense as Hugh Heffner getting a hooker.

    Sign another FA pitcher, this is about as appealing as option number one, but comes with the added benefit of adding salary. Either you count on Jake Westbrook or another similarly mediocre pitcher or you give a 37 year old Koruda a contract and ask him to move from a pitcher’s park in the NL West to a HR friendly park in the AL East. Another brilliant idea. Next I think they should trade Montero and Cano for Ryan Howard.

    Trade for another pitcher, this is a smorgasbord of bad ideas. It combines the giving up good young talent aspect of the Greinke idea and the adding salary for bad talent (in most cases) of the sign another FA pitcher idea. Look, unless Josh Johnson or Felix Hernandez is available, I don’t think the Yankees should be looking at the trade market to fix their rotation issues. Some people suggest Nolasco…why? He has a GB% of 39 for his career playing in the NL. Had they not seen how Javier Vazquez and Phil Hughes struggle with the long ball in the stadium this year? Why would you add another pitcher with similar struggles and give up good young talent?

    I know Cliff Lee’s not exactly Brandon Webb out there, but his command is at an unheard of level, and over the past few years he’s shown he’s able to control his HR/FB ratio, even while spending some time in good hitters environments.

    • Jimmy McNulty

      Note: it’s not just the YankeeU articles…I’m also getting sick of my friends saying the Yankees don’t need CLiff Lee and shouldn’t sign him. It’s getting dumb.

      • UWS

        The worry with Cliff Lee is that he’s a 32 yo dude, potentially with back problems, who will command a CC-sized contract. How many of those can the Yankees reasonably afford?

        • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

          Potential back problems. We’re not talking about Alfredo Aceves type back injury. Lee just had a “strained muscle”, whatever that means. He received a cortisone injection and has been fine, since.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Zack Greinke, great…most of us were, at the very least, uncomfortable giving up Montero for Cliff Lee

      That’s not quite accurate. Most people were very uncomfortable giving up Montero for a rental of Cliff Lee, when he was hitting the free agent market after the season was over. More people felt fine about trading him for, say, Halladay last offseason.

      I agree with the rest of this argument, in general. Though some people are concerned about the years/money thing with Lee, which is always understandable with an older pitcher. Someone like Kuroda’s older too, but of course he’s not looking for the contract Lee will be.

      • candyforstalin

        one penny above 125m, i’d take my chances with kuroda.

        • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

          I don’t understand the Kuroda obsession. He’ll be 36 before opening day. He had 3 pretty good years in the NL West. Nothing spectacular though. 36 year olds transitioning to the AL East for the first time don’t usually go so well.

          • candyforstalin

            believe me. there’s a long list of pitchers i’d rather have.

        • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

          Ok, I’m sorry for this, but

          WHY DO YOU CARE WHAT THE YANKEES ARE PAYING HIM?

          Guess what, it’s not your money. Whether the Yankees do or don’t sign Cliff Lee, bleacher tickets are still gonna cost $14 next year, a Bud Light is still gonna cost $9, etc. Let the Yankees pay him what they want to pay him and be happy that you have a top 5 and two top 10 pitchers on your team.

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

            some people are uncomfortable with the idea of having so much money wrapped up in 30+ YO pitchers in CC, AJ, and theoretically Cliff Lee. I don’t so much worry about the money as much as the years, because while I think a budget exists, I think the Steinbrenners are also really happy to increase that budget if they feel moves are necessary.

            • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

              Well if your concern is 30+ Year old pitchers then Kuroda is not the answer. The problem is the drop off between Lee and the 2nd best guy on the market.

              Pitching wins championships and obviously we didn’t have enough of it this past year to get it done.

              • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

                Well if your concern is 30+ Year old pitchers then Kuroda is not the answer.

                Well the issue with Lee that some people have is the years. Kuroda is even older than Lee but Kuroda isn’t going to want like 5-6 years, not even close. I guess some people figure Kuroda could be a stop-gap while the guys in the minors develop.

                The problem is the drop off between Lee and the 2nd best guy on the market.

                Agreed. It’s a precipitous drop. I would really like Lee and I am not arguing against him at all, I’m just trying to show how other people think of it.

                • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

                  I know Kuroda won’t want 5-6 years but he’ll probably want 2-3. In which case he’ll be the same age as Lee will be when his 5-6 year deal expires, and you’ll get less production with a roster spot still tied up (albeit for less money).

                  (When I said you, I didn’t mean you specifically)

                  • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

                    But Kuroda has proven he can pitch til the age of 36, meaning he’s got a good chance of pitching til he’s 38. For all we know, Cliff Lee could (long shot, obviously) be washed up in 2 years, and then we’re stuck with four more.

                    • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

                      Not that I don’t want Lee or do want Kuroda, just stressing the difference in signing a 36-year old for 2 years vs. a 32-year old for 6 years.

            • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

              Oh yes, years are certainly a concern.

          • candyforstalin

            i care about what my team spends. and none of it will be mine.

            • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

              That doesn’t answer my question.

              Reading comprehension, not that difficult.

              • candyforstalin

                it’s a catholic thing. my english is not nearly good enough to explain it, though.

          • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

            Because it directly impacts on how the Yankees better their team?

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Mrs. OBP Jesus Maquinito

      I’d love Cliff Lee, I just am a little scared of the deal he might require to come to NY.

      • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

        He greatly increases our chances of winning a championship now and for the next 3 years (just a guess). In about 3-4 years from now Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, Mariano will all be gone. ARod will be making mid to low 20s and Tex will still be here. We have to sign Lee to give it one last hurrah for the core four.

        • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Mrs. OBP Jesus Maquinito

          There are plenty of reasons to sign him but I hate “last hurrah” arguments.

          The Core Four retiring does not mean the end of the Yankees, just a new beginning.

          • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

            I didn’t mean it to sound like the end of the Yankees. But it is the tail end of their careers. Is the last hurrah such a bad reason then?

            • Jerome S

              Mo might be useful for a while still. Really. The guy might be like Jamie Moyer, except good.

            • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

              I don’t want the Yankees to pour all of their resources into the next year or two if it reduces their chances of winning afterwords. These guys have all gotten five rings, they’ll live.

  • UWS

    I looked at that layout thingie. I…don’t get it. One endzone is in the dugout and the other is out in the bleachers somewhere? How is that going to work?

  • Carlosologist

    Fun fact: Last night’s game was 3 hours, 17 minutes. The eighth inning was an hour and five minutes.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Mrs. OBP Jesus Maquinito

    Break up the Nets

  • Xstar7

    Another come from behind win for the Nets

  • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S

    This is the most BORING OPEN THREAD EVER.
    Are they always like this in the offseason?

    • Carlosologist

      Yup. They’re practically dead in January.

    • VO

      They’ll get a little better when the Hot Stove heats up.

    • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

      No. They aren’t as good as the regular season, but it’s cause its a Friday.

      • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

        it’s*

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      It’s Friday night, there’s no baseball on at all, and the Hot Stove stuff hasn’t really started yet.

  • Ray the Anti-Handle

    Err, how the heck does that field layout work? Are they going to dismantle the dugouts, bullpens, and part of the bleachers?

    • Mike Nitabach

      Also, I assume they’re gonna install a bunch of seats in left field and right field, to fill in near the sidelines around midfield (which would be the best seats in the house).

      And yeah, college football is amazing. I’ve been an Ivy Leaguer my whole life, so never paid much attention to football. However, my wife went to USC and over the years I have gone to many home and away games, including at Notre Dame, Ohio State, Cal, etc. College football is a total BLAST!

  • candyforstalin