Open Thread: Injury Updates

The Bench Takes Shape
Late Night Linkage: Media, Offseason, Prospects
Kevin Millwood made it to Tampa. (AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

All of the roster and transactions news was posted this afternoon, but Chad Jennings offered up some injury updates as well. Let’s recap it here…

  • Tonight’s game was canceled because it’s pouring in Tampa, so Curtis Granderson was unable to do his scheduled work this afternoon. “Very close to it, if not on it,” said the center fielder, referring to being ready for Opening Day. Grandy wants to play in a game before Opening Day, but the final game of the Grapefruit League schedule will be played tomorrow afternoon. I guess the good news is that he’s not far off from returning. (Update: John Flaherty says Grandy took batting practice inside and could play in a minor league game tomorrow, weather permitting.)
  • Once healthy, Pedro Feliciano says he’ll only need “a couple of bullpens” to get himself into game shape.
  • Chris Dickerson’s hamstring injury is “manageable” and doesn’t seem to be much of an issue.
  • Frankie Cervelli will be free of his protective walking boot for good tomorrow.

Anyway, that’s it. No game tonight like I said, so you’re going to have to dig around for something else to watch. The only local team in action is the Knicks, who’ve managed to lose nine of their last ten games. Same ol’ Knicks even with Carmelo, eh? You all know what to do, so have at it.

The Bench Takes Shape
Late Night Linkage: Media, Offseason, Prospects
  • bakekrukow412

    No Montero :/

    • squishy jello person

      Better he plays every day

      • bakekrukow412

        Probably right.

  • Undertaker’s DongKey

    My Milkshake brings all the boys to the yard,

  • cano is the bro
    • Jerome S.

      That’s so messed up. I know it’s all contrived, but I have such a boyish image of him. It’s strange to imagine him wielding that thing.

    • Stratman9652

      To hunt down the bastard who stole his cap.

      • Xstar7


    • squishy jello person

      Because he can

    • pete

      I don’t know, but it definitely makes me like him less

      • NYinTX

        Why? Because he owns a gun? Good thing you don’t know me – I have an arsenal.

        • Mister Delaware

          You’re in Texas. Thats like me saying I own shirts.

          • NYinTX

            But I’m from New York state originally. The part of the state I lived in had a healthy respect for guns, too.

        • pete

          I hate guns and the culture that honors them

          • NYinTX

            Guns are a tool like anything else. In the hands of an idiot, even a hammer is dangerous. Besides, respect does not mean honor.

      • FIPster Doofus

        Why do you care?

        • Mister Delaware

          Not to get into a huge gun debate, but shouldn’t everyone sort of care that a gun that can shoot 11 rounds per second (says google) was kept under poor security and is now unaccounted for?

          • FIPster Doofus

            Valid point. But I don’t understand why Longoria’s legal possession of a gun would make one like him less. He’s not breaking any laws.

            • Mister Delaware

              Sure, but the story isn’t that he owned a gun, its that he owned an assault rifle and, apparently, did so pretty irresponsibly.

              • FIPster Doofus

                The only reaction I can conjure up is “Meh.” If in fact the gun wasn’t kept in a safe place, that’s dumb on Longo’s part. Other than that, I couldn’t care less, and it does nothing to change my opinion about him.

                • Mister Delaware

                  That’s fine, but I’d suggest you don’t read up on the statistics about stolen guns being used in the crimes so you can maintain that apathy.

                  • FIPster Doofus

                    I’ve already acknowledged that leaving the gun out in the open is dumb. You don’t even know if Longoria did that, though. You’re just speculating.

                    • Mister Delaware

                      I’m absolutely speculating and indicated as much below in my response to Mike. But if I’m speculating correctly, its more than simply “dumb” given the potential ramifications.

            • Mister Delaware

              (Not to mention that something being legal doesn’t preclude a individual from making a moral judgment.)

          • Mike Axisa

            We don’t know any of the details. For all we know it was in a locked closet or something.

            • Mister Delaware

              Sure, and if the gun was locked in a secure closet (or safe) and the robbers cracked the code, Longoria can be absolved. If it wasn’t, he has some culpability.

  • Craig

    So does anyone have an idea as to what torment Cliff Lee will face when the Phillies come back to the Bronx in either a WS or Interleague?

    • thumper

      losing ;)

  • Pak

    Fantasy talk:
    I had my draft last night with school friends, 12 teams, but many many spots.

    I had 8th pick

    My team:
    C: Victor Martinez
    1b: Adrian Gonzalez
    2b: Kelly Johnson
    3b: Aramis Ramirez
    SS: Yunel Escobar
    If: Garret Jones
    LF: Josh Hamilton
    CF: Brett Gardner
    RF: Vladimir Guerrero
    OF: Rajai Davis
    Util: David Ortiz
    Util: Jim Thome

    Bench: Russell Martin, Chipper Jones, Marlyn Byrd

    SP: Cliff Lee
    SP: Justin Verlander
    SP:David Price
    SP: Carl Pavano
    RP: Jonathon Papelbon
    RP: Joe Nathan
    P: Leo Nunez
    P: Brian Fuentes
    P: Kerry Wood
    Bench: A.J. Burnett, Mike Pelfrey, Jake Westbrook

    I know, a lot of spots but whatever. I get to rotate guys in everyday so it’s good.

    What do you guys think about my team? 1st place gets around $200

    • YankeesJunkie

      What type of league is it? Standard 5×5, head to head, etc.

      • Pak

        Head to Head

    • Matt Imbrogno

      Too many relievers; you should’ve gone w/starters over Nunez, Fuentes, and Wood.

      • Mister Delaware

        In a daily change league, good relievers are awesome. I’d rather have 3 guys add up to 6 IP over a week than have Jon Garland pitch once.

  • Kiersten

    Fantasy help.

    So this guy in my league hardly has any starters and a ton of closers (we did pitchers as one position, no distinction between relief and starter) and I only have one closer and a ton of starters. He wants to make a trade but I have no idea who to trade and what would be fair.

    Starters I have:
    King Felix (not trading, obviously)
    E. Santana

    Relievers he has (only saves, no holds):
    Chris Perez
    Leo Nunez

    Any opinions on what would be a good/fair trade and who of those starters I should be willing to give up?

    • Kiersten

      Oh and pitchers stats are wins, saves, ERA, K’s and WHIP.

    • Pak

      Get Feliz for a Santana or a Cecil, high strikeout/innings guy for a high saves guy

    • bexarama

      Marmol is the best closer you can get there. Putz and Chris Perez (and Nunez too, to an extent) are getting underrated… maybe trade one of your lesser starters for that? Maybe like, Marmol + a lesser reliever for Billingsley or Latos, is that at all fair?

      • boogie down

        I Agree that Marmol’s the best of that bunch and that Putz and Perez are being underrated.

        Kiersten, I don’t think you should trade any of your top 4 pitchers, as you’re sure to have a pretty dominant rotation with those guys at the helm. Two of Billingsley, Hughes and Bumgarner for two of Putz, Nathan and Perez seems like a good deal to me. I have Nathan on my fantasy team and he’ll share the closer role for much of April before reclaiming it outright, so keep that in mind.

        • Kiersten

          Who would you guys recommend me keeping between Matusz and Bumgarner?

          My problem is that obviously in real life I don’t value relievers as much as starters, but I have no idea how their value translates in fantasy. Is one good starter a fair trade for 2 decent relievers? Will I be OK with just two closers?

          Would something like Santana for Putz and Perez be a fair trade?
          Also, if I pick up 2 for 1 then I have to drop a bench player, which isn’t a big deal, but then I’d have 12 pitchers.

          • bexarama

            Bumgarner? I really like Matusz but he’s in a hitters’ park and a rough league. Bumgarner’s team isn’t great with scoring runs but it’s a pretty good team and he’s got a much easier league.

            I have just started this whole fantasy thing too so I have no idea what fair trades are. Santana for Putz/Perez seems fair to me, but I don’t know much. Who’s on your bench/your normal team so I could offer advice on who to drop?

            • Kiersten

              I have Montero on my bench, so I’d probably drop him and just snatch him up if I can when he’s called up. Which I’ll probably know before anyone else in my league since I check RAB like 15 times a day.

              • boogie down

                I actually did something similar: I dropped Montero, after drafting him with my final pick, in favor of Denard Span. Keeping an eye on his AAA production and RAB should make a preemptive pickup somewhat easy.

          • boogie down

            You shouldn’t value relievers highly in fantasy. As your league’s scoring structure is set up, a reliever’s greatest value will come almost exclusively from his ability to provide saves. This renders excellent set-up men like Hong-Chi Kuo and Mike Adams effectively useless in fantasy. (Adams may become an attractive mid-season pickup if/when Heath Bell is traded)

            Fantasy experts often advise players not to pay for saves, i.e. draft a stud closer relatively high. I agree with that logic b/c the amount of innings a closer throws isn’t enough to significantly alter your staff’s overall ERA or WHIP, even if he’s below average (think Matt Lindstrom).

            Though you’d be OK with only 2 closers, I suggest you get a third, assuming that’s what most people have. With too few relievers, your rate stats stand to worsen, as you’ll have added innings from presumably lesser starters (since you’ll always hold onto better ones). However, more starters means more gross W’s and K’s.

            Weigh the win and K capabilities of your frontline, never-gonna-trade-em starters against those of your opponents’. If you match up favorably, and I think you will, acquire a reliever. Even if you get a reliever who’s merely average but can get saves (think Kevin Gregg), he won’t hurt your rate stats as much as a similar starter simply because the reliever pitches fewer innings.

            Lastly, don’t go 2 for 1, because then you’ll have too many pitchers and not enough position players manning the bench. If you could get Santana for Putz or Perez, I think that you’ll still have made an excellent trade, considering the rest of your staff.

            Hope this helps.

            • boogie down

              Oops, in the face of “[y]ou shouldn’t value relievers highly in fantasy,” I think I need to explain my rationale behind saying Santana for Putz/Perez is good. As your staff is pretty damn good, a lesser starter for a legitimately good reliever, straight up, is a fine trade. Regardless, you should look to replace a couple of the pitchers you have with position players, be it through trade or FA.

              However, if you can pull a 2 for 1 trade and then use your surplus pitching to acquire some position-player depth, you’ll have done a thoroughly good job of improving your whole team.

              • Kiersten

                Thanks. This all really helps a lot. I think I’ll offer him Santana for one of the relievers.

  • NC Yankee Fan

    my fantasy team
    Mixed 12 Team League
    Hr, RBI, SV, K’s, AVG, WHIP etc…
    C Brian McCann
    1B Adrian Gonzalez
    2B Dan Uggla
    3B Jose Bautista
    SS Ian Desmond
    OF Chris Young
    OF Ben Zobrist
    OF Nick Swisher
    Util Prince Fielder
    Util Brian Roberts
    BN Jorge Posada
    BN Jesus Montero
    BN Magglio Ordonez
    BN Scott Rolen
    BN Tyler Colvin

    SP Justin Verlander
    SP Francisco Liriano
    RP Johnathan Broxton
    RP Rafael Soriano
    P Jaime Garcia
    P Tim Hudson
    P A.J. Burnett
    P Javier Vazquez

    What do you guys think?
    Chose 10th Overall.

    • Matt Imbrogno

      Not enough pitchers; see if you can get someone to buy high on Bautista for a starter.

      • NC Yankee Fan

        Some guy took Halladay and Sabathia with two of top 3 picks

      • NC Yankee Fan

        Just offered Bautista and Burnett for Price and Infante

  • Matt Imbrogno

    I hate the Rangers even more right now.

    • Tom Zig

      NY or Texas?

      • Matt Imbrogno

        Texas. Ogando is getting to start, but Feliz isn’t.

  • bexarama

    Here is my 20-team league team so you can all laugh at it:
    C Brian McCann
    1B Prince Fielder
    2B Ben Zobrist
    SS Elvis Andrus
    3B Dan Johnson (lol)
    OF Jason Heyward, Juan Pierre, JD Drew
    UTIL/BN Juan Uribe, Sean Rodriguez, Ryan Doumit, Johnny Damon, Kosuke Fukudome

    SP Jered Weaver
    SP Ricky Romero
    RP Craig Kimbrel
    RP Mike Adams
    P Travis Wood, Brett Cecil, Joel Peralta, Jeremy Guthrie, Phil Coke, Brandon McCarthy

    And then again, here is my team in a 4-team league:
    C Victor Martinez
    1B Joey Votto
    2B Dan Uggla
    SS Hanley Ramirez
    3B David Wright
    IF Justin Morneau
    OF Matt Holliday, Jason Heyward, Andre Ethier, Colby Rasmus
    UTIL Mike Stanton, Pedro Alvarez
    BN Brett Gardner, Jorge Posada, Brandon Phillips, Casey McGehee

    SP Cliff Lee, Justin Verlander, CC Sabathia, Max Scherzer
    RP Joakim Soria, Carlos Marmol, John Axford, Jeremy Hellickson
    P John Danks, Colby Lewis, Aroldis Chapman

    I also drafted Andy >_>

    • NC Yankee Fan

      Maybe a lack of power on 20 team league team.
      I would trade excess pitching like a Brett Cecil for power.

    • Matt Imbrogno

      20 teamer: Awesome C/1B. Rest of the infield? Not so much. OF is okay w/Heyward and Drew, just gotta hope for health.

      And here’s the eventual champion of that four team league, FIP to be Square:


      P: Gallardo, Latos, Billingsley, Anderson, W. Rodriguez, Carpenter, Morrow

      • bexarama

        20 teamer: Awesome C/1B. Rest of the infield? Not so much

        Yeah you don’t have to tell me. I’ll just hope Andrus magically develops 15 HR power and steals a bunch of bases and scores a lot of runs, Zobrist bounces back, and Dan Johnson… um… I’ll play him when the Yankees and Red Sox play the Rays………

        OF is okay w/Heyward and Drew, just gotta hope for health.
        Yeah :( I have like 75 OFs but they all seem to have health issues :/

        • Matt Imbrogno

          Zobrist should bounce back, and Andrus should hit for a good average and steal a metric fuckton of bases.

        • Mister Delaware

          I love Dan Johnson this year. Will bet 10 RAB dollars that he goes over 25 HRs and has an OBP of atleast .355 thus making him pretty solid overall and a huge bargain at $1MM per.

          • bexarama

            That’d be really nice, by the time I chose my 3B crap was left and I figured at least he had some okay upside.

  • Tom Zig

    BringBackScottyProc of RAB Conference League South, 20 team league

    C: Joe Mauer
    1B: Luke Scott
    2B: Kelly Johnson
    SS: Starlin Castro
    3B: Alex Rodriguez
    OF: Travis Snider
    OF: Marlon Byrd
    OF: Andres Torres
    Util: Jim Jam Mash Taters
    Util: Russel Branyan
    BN: Ty Wiggington
    BN: Pat Burrell
    BN: Eric Hosmer

    SP: Justin Verlander
    SP: Dan Haren
    RP: Kevin Gregg
    RP: Octavio Dotel
    P: Carlos Zambrano
    P: John Danks
    P: Jason Hammel
    BN: Chris Narveson
    BN: Juan Gutierrez
    BN: Matt Lindstrom

    • bexarama

      I might be down to trade a pitcher for Branyan or Thome.

    • YankeesJunkie

      I don’t like how one of your two pitchers are not in the NL, but at least you chose two very good AL pitchers, one being in a huge park. Also Hosmer won’t make an impact on the Royals until at least the second half if that with Kila and Butler.

      • Tom Zig

        Well I grabbed Hosmer off of Free agency because I noticed that all other young guys were being snapped up already.

        Pineda, M. perez, Brandon Belt, Montero, Ackley are all gone.

  • NC Yankee Fan

    Pitching is weak, trade Branyan for a pitcher or outfielder

  • boogie down

    My 2nd and final FBB draft — 12-team league w/ the following categories:

    Hitting: R, H, HR, RBI, SB, BB, K, AVG, OPS, XBH
    Pitching: W, L, CG, SHO, SV, ER, K, ERA, WHIP, K/BB, QS
    *weekly minimum of 30 IP*

    Team Name: Hole Camels

    C Matt Wieters
    1B Victor Martinez
    2B Kelly Johnson
    3B A-Rod (lean, mean, odd-year A-Rod)
    SS Starlin Castro
    OF Jason Heyward
    OF Delmon Young
    OF Adam Jones
    UTIL Adam Lind
    UTIL Travis Snider
    Bench: Ryan Raburn, Manny Ramirez, Jim Thome, Logan Morrison, Edwin Encarnacion

    SP Roy Halladay
    SP Cole Hamels
    RP Kevin Gregg
    RP Brandon League
    P Tommy Hanson
    P Wandy Rodriguez
    P Jhoulys Chacin
    P Brian Matusz
    Bench: Hong-Chih Kuo
    (Everyone else in the league is also utilizing only two RP)

    • YankeesJunkie

      One of the things other than not being more statistically inclined for the RAB league is the min innings only being 10. You could easily win ERA, WHIP, and SVs with relievers alone and spot start your good starters against poor teams. Not saying it is full proof, but I feel the limit is too low.

      • boogie down

        Yeah, my buddy is the Commissioner of my other league and he had originally set the minimum innings requirement to 7. I told him to up it to 25 to avoid exactly what you just said. Otherwise, why not get three excellent pitchers and load up on relievers. That way, you’d not only steal ERA, WHIP, and SVs without a problem, but you stand a chance of being competitive in categories that are starter driven, like W’s and K’s. Obviously, you’d need 3 knockout aces, but with the pitching depth available, they’re not overly difficult to acquire. During weeks where they’re pitching well, multiple outings by 2, or all 3, could give you a shot at nabbing a win in W’s and/or K’s.

  • Cecala

    I was proposed a trade

    I give up: Jose Reyes
    I get: Alcedes Escobar, Andres Torres, Ted Lilly

    Right now my outfield is pretty stacked with Jay Bruce, Rasmus, Stanton, Cuddyer, Hart,Soriano, Dejesus, and Hall if he plays OF.

    I think its a bad trade on my part.

    • Jerome S.

      don’t do it. reyes has huge upside.

    • FIPster Doofus

      I definitely wouldn’t do it were I you.

  • YankeesJunkie

    I am starting a 20 team league on ESPN. Unlike the other official RAB leagues this is totally based off metric weighting. It is a 20 team league and the draft is on Wednesday at 730 EST. It will be head to head competition on a weekly basis with all 20 teams in a single division. Hope to see you guys and gals there.

    Password: Yankees

  • RubaDoob

    my fantasy team in a 10 team league, i had the 8th pick

    c- weiters
    1b- cabrera
    2b- phillips
    ss- drew
    ss/2b- castro
    1b/3b- dunn
    of- soriano,snider,choo,markakis,fowler
    util- mcgehee
    bench- c. jones, y. molina,r. martin, freese, f. sanchez

    p- king felix
    p- price
    p- oswalt
    p- morrow
    p- romero
    p- wolf
    p- davis
    rp- soria

    how’d i do?

  • bonestock94

    Not to beat a dead horse but LOL at all the people that now like Longoria less for owning an AK47. The law-abiding gun owners in this country aren’t the problem…

    • Steve H

      Try to ban the AK I got 10 of em stashed with a case of hand grenades!


    • Tom Zig

      Yeah I mean it was legally owned, so who cares?

      I also highly doubt it was a fully automatic AK. If it was a semi-auto, then he probably didn’t even need a permit for it.

  • Camilo Gerardo

    10 team league. it’s been awhile, but it looked quality to me with guys like quentin and beltran who could make a big return. pitchers are all green, eh. didn’t know lidge was messed up, but saves is just one point out of 15 h2h

    C- Santana
    1b- Teixeira
    2b- Phillips
    3b- Bautista
    SS- Hanley Ramirez
    of- Kemp
    of- Markakis
    of- Quentin
    Util- Torii Hunter
    bn- Beltran, Alvarez

    SP- Price
    sp- Latos
    sp- Cain
    sp- Hughes
    rp- Hellickson Sp/rp
    rp- Aardsma
    bn- Lidge, Nolasco, MadBum