Yankees sending Hughes to the disabled list
ByUpdate (4:11pm): Scratch that, Joe Girardi told Marc Carig that Hughes is going to be placed on the disabled list and remain with the team, not sent to the minors. They called it a dead arm phase. “Something had to be done,” said Hughes. “My velocity’s just not there. My arm feels dead. This will able me to build arm strength and get this right.” Get well soon Philbert.
Original Post (3:54pm): Via Brian Costello, the Yankees are sending Phil Hughes to Triple-A Scranton to work out whatever the hell is costing him velocity and command. It’s pretty obvious that the team had to do something here, sending Phil out there every fifth day to get shelled isn’t in the best interest of him or the club. I figured they would give him one or two more starts, but I applaud them for acting quickly and not screwing around (i.e. phantom disabled list, bullpen, etc.). I’m sure Hughes is disappointed, but he can right this by getting back on track in a structured environment where results really don’t matter.
Right-hander Lance Pendleton is being called up to replace him on the roster, though it’s unclear who will fill the vacated rotation spot. My money’s on Hector Noesi. I assume Pedro Feliciano will be shifted to the 60-day DL to make room on the 40-man roster.
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what do you think, mike?
Wow!
Wow. I must say I am quite surprised.
This hurts…I hope its for the best though. Its been a long time since we have been able to watch a pitching prospect evolve.
I think we all saw this coming, but I wasn’t expecting it to happen this soon. I think by recalling Pendleton, Noesi gets to start and Bartolo stays the swingman. (h/t MosheTYA on Twitter)
I’m thinking the same thing with that setup. And I agree, I thought the Yanks would either DL him or give him at least one more start.
I hope that’s what happens as opposed to Colon starting; as much as I wanted Colon in the rotation to start the year, he’s prob best suited for no more than 3 IP with his lack of innings over the past several years.
Till we meet again, St. Philip of Hughes,
If only we had another high cieling young pitcher we could turn to that has already expreience big league success a starting pitcher…
/Ican’tquityouJobathestarterIcan’tquityou’d
I guess it’s better to be too early than too late on things like this…
time to revive the free Joba campaign?
Could you always send pitchers to the DL with “dead arm”?
(I didn’t think this was possible – I thought you’d need a more serious injury than this – but I guess not.)
Oops, reply fail on my part.
“time to revive the free Joba campaign?”
There would be a riot on RAB
Wow, I thought he was gunna get at least one more start before they did something drastic. I cant disagree with it..
What a fall from grace…
He is having a little trouble, he isn’t on crack and can’t reach the plate. At least they will get him back earlier than later if they waited 2 or 3 more starts to do this. Good luck Phil
Worked for Halladay at the same age.
If Highes had another shaky start we’d all be screaming about how he should be yanked out of the rotation, so good on the Yankees for not wasting time.
HUGHES. Damn you, spelling errors.
I don’t oppose it, but I DO wonder why this hasn’t been done at any point with a certain someone…
How does sending him down solve anything? Would skipping him a start be more helpful?
He gets to keep starting on rotation, and also hopefully rebuild both his stuff and command, as well as confidence by actually getting guys out. Skipping him is just him throwing side sessions, maybe that helps but it’s not live game action. Bullpen? Irregular garbage time appearances won’t help him as much as starting a game, even in Scranton.
I think it helps in two ways: One, he’s no longer throwing what amounts to BP to MLB players and losing more confidence; and he can work out his troubles out of the spotlight in Triple A.
Is this a serious question? It solves the problem of giving the other team 6 runs thru 4 innings every 5th game
WHOA. Scraping jaw off the floor. I mean, it’s not really a surprise but STILL.
I don’t know what surprised me more- Hughes being sent down or Pendleton being called up.
Cliff Lee and Halladay were once sent down…But so was Kei Igawa
Cliff Lee and Halladay were also one day brought back up from the minors . . . unfortunately so was Igawa.
As Sterling and Waldman are fond of saying, Cliff Lee and Halladay had the same thing happen once they hit the majors. Hopefully Contreras heads to AAA to work with Hughes and they can fix whatever is wrong.
If Brackman goes lights out in his next start and Noesi gets smashed, what are the odds the Brackmonster is starting for the Yanks this month?
How could they send Hughes down? I thought he was out of options. And even if he wasn’t, isn’t there some thing with service time that we discussed regarding Joba that prevents players from getting sent down without being passed through some waiver system?
He has at least one option left, apparently. The waivers thing is just a formality, apparently players never get selected off optional waivers.
I don’t think Phil fulfills the three straight years in the majors rule just yet. It’s moot because, according to KLaw, no team ever puts in a claim on players that have to abide by the three year waiver rule. He mentioned it explicitly in the case of Joba if they wanted to stretch him out in the minors.
Yeah he does. April 24, 2007.
It has to be 3 full years without ever being optioned to the minors in that timespan.
Great news! Going back to the minors has helped some pretty good pitchers in the past. Let’s hope Phil can make use of his time back in the minors to get ready to rock and roll.
I have faith in his character to work on what needs to be. He’s going to be better.
Well, at least he can make rehab starts in the minors.
Phil’s apparently staying at with the big club. This… doesn’t change anything.
wow, I thought they’d phantom DL him and let him throw long toss/sides to build up arm strength. at least they did something,, if might affect his confidence but it can’t be any worse than having him out there getting shelled every five days
wait Bryan Hoch on twitter says “Girardi says Hughes DL with dead arm. Lance Pendleton up”
conflicting stories
It’s good they learned something from how they handled Joba.
well never mind. I think actually getting to pitch to AAA lineups would be better, because if he has a dead arm its certainly the liveliest dead arm I’ve seen.
Yeah, Noesi’s the logical guy for the rotation, with Pendelton in the pen.
Surprising how quick they pulled the ripcord on Hughes, but he’ll be back up once he shows his velocity is back.
Joba, Joba, Joba. I know, it’s not going to happen, but I’d like to see it.
Guess I was wrong. Just read it’s Colon to the rotation.
“Joba, Joba, Joba. I know, it’s not going to happen, but I’d like to see it.”
many of us would
Phil Hughes is going to be back, and he’s going to remember those who doubted him. I can’t wait to see him performing again at the level I know he can.
I just read that Hughes is being put on the DL with what is termed a “dead arm.” Is that possible? That’s not exactly a medical issue, is it?
Remember when a “dead arm” meant your big brother just let loose a punch on your arm?
Scherzer, Fister, Morton, Leake and Kazmir all had DL stays for “shoulder fatigue.” Don’t see why dead arm is any different.
“If he really needs the time off, great. Otherwise I’d rather see him pitching every five days in Scranton. Either way, get well soon Philbert.”
It seems pretty clear that they think he needs the time off and not to be pitching every five days in Scranton. If they thought he needed to be pitching every five days in Scranton… they’d have sent him to Scranton.
Not that they’re necessarily right, just that obviously that’s what they think is right. There’s a pretty decent chance that they’re not 100% sure what is wrong (and therefore what the right course of action is), and if that’s the case I’d rather exercise caution and let the arm rest than keep him throwing every 5 days.
Olney – “Phil Hughes being placed on DL with what Girardi is calling “a dead arm.” Colon takes rotation spot. RHP Lance Pendleton takes roster spot.”
god I hope this doesn’t backfire, Colon should be limited to like 75 pitches
Colon needs a shake for breakfast, a shake for lunch, and a sensible dinner.
“ and a sensible dinner”
Like a hearty helping of rice and beans with fried platanos and some meat right before bedtime?
Hey, when I ate them growing up we called them tostones. And I am pretty sure Colon is a maduros kind of platano eater.
Where are you from?
Born and raised in Westchester County, but my parents are from Colombia.
“Colon to the rotation”…I guess that whole Axisa 10% thingee has kinda been overtaken by events.
So, when do Millwood and/or Silva join the rotation??
I assume when Millwood’s fastball can break a window pane, he’ll get serious consideration. Dunno about Silva.
I disagree.
Millwood is a FB pitcher who walks guys with sub 90mph stuff – that’s not a recipe for success at YS.
Silva is a GB pitcher who doesn’t walk guys and he used his change up 31% of the time last year – which helps against lefties at YS.
Note: Neither will be ‘good’ but Silva probably has a better chance to not be useless
I never said anything about Silva’s chances BTW (even in relation to Millwood’s), I just said, I don’t know about his chances.
Not that I believe in either pitcher, but Millwood has pitched in the AL East and at Texas’ ballpark. He has also shown some competence when his velocity isn’t piss poor. Whether or not his velo will ever come back is another discussion all together.
didn’t joe mauer just go on the DL with “dead legs”? Didn’t dontrelle willis go on the Dl last year with some social/mental illness? The yankees just have never taken advantage of the loopholes..i’m glad they are finally starting..hopefully next year they’ll sign a free agent to a crazy huge contract but won’t make it official until after the season starts to avoid paying more luxury tax..the “Theo” move if you will….
I don’t think either Mauer or Willis’ DL trips are just loopholes/for show.
Yeah those were definitely legit.
Theo is clearly a genius for doing that come on get with the story.
/sarcasm
I guess all the people who disagreed when I commented about Hughes’s impending doom were very, very wrong.
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/.....own-45155/
“Doom”? He’s 24.
I’d say ‘not remotely being able to do your job properly’ is kind of doom, but I guess it’s a matter of opinion.
I don’t think NYY’s point was that Hughes would unexplicably lose his FB in his mid-20s… just that he wasn’t good in the 2nd half of last season and may have a rough season. Not a 14 ERA.
Blindly shooting at a target and hitting it doesn’t mean you’re a good shot. If I randomly predicted every MLB player would have either a good or bad season I’d be right a whole lot of times.
“You must be kidding. Any Yankee fan should be worried if Hughes is throwing at that velocity. Hughes needs to throw 93-95 to be effective; he has no change-up and doesn’t use the curve. If he’s off that by so much, he will be worthless in the coming year. This site should be renamed Yankee Apologists.”
This is what I wrote. That’s not blindly hitting a target. That’s called being smart. And watching.
By the way, I like Hughes. I just hope the kid learns to pitch and stops relying so damn much on the fastball that doesn’t exist half the time.
were you just saving that just for this occasion lol?
Good for him. Lots of over confident people here who deserve to be called out.
You should scroll up to the link and then read the comments. I bet you’ve never been that right in your life, poopy pants.
I was agreeing with you
Either cut the shit or go away. Don’t tell people what to do on my site.
You’re being sensitive. You know why? Because I pointed out that you were wrong about Hughes three weeks ago, and I was right then. That’s the only issue, whether you’re man enough to admit you’re wrong. I’m sure you’re not.
Phil Hughes is on the DL. We’re all extremely happy for you.
Nobody “deserves to be called out” for wanting Hughes to come through once the season started and arguing valid points about the dangers of overreacting to spring training results.
Wanting him to do well and calling people idiots for being concerned are very different.
NYY was just throwing shit at the wall with Hughes dimished ST velocity and it happened to stick… Most of his points were baseless or just flat out incorrect.
Good think they’re all available for people to read, if they cared. Which I’m sure they don’t.
Enough already with Hughes, we can only hope he learns a change-up. Why doesn’t he? Why doesn’t he use the curve if he’s so smart and he has such good make-up?
Gritty, I’ll give you that, insane, but gritty.
Do you not repent, ye slow-witted men? Ye Apologists? Ye River Avenue Blues losers?
Oh ye of little brains…
Wow. I have never quite seen a combo of dickbrained and no-brained.
I always respect people who use the word “dickbrained.”
Who the heck is Lance Pendleton and was it Collin Curtis pumping his fist in the dugout last night after Jorge’s homer? What the heck is he doing up here?
“What the heck is he doing up here?”
Trying to bring back the player/manage thing. Rumor has it Cashman has grown tired of Joe and the binder. He won’t mention it now but yrs down the line he will
What? i asked a question about Collin Curtis and your answer is… huh? Or are you being cute?
It was a joke obviously just trying to add some humor to the hysteria about Hughes. Curtis has been in the dugout since opening day.
It’s like that “Seinfeld” episode where uninvited Jerry shows up to Tim Whatley’s party.
Yea, its just like that, Doofus.
Thank you Phil, for admitting there’s a problem. I can’t imagine the pressure a major league pitcher feels to stay out there, especially a guy who’s been up and down his whole career like Hughes.
Lance Pendleton is Terry’s nephew.
Thought they’d give Noesi the shot, but just read Colon is taking Hughes’ spot.
Either way it does not matter. I guess if I thought Colon was going to blow up for sure in the rotation maybe not, but Noesi will be there backing up Colon’s limited pitch count starts. He has earned a chance for at least a few starts.
I don’t have an issue with Colon starting, I just thought they’d leave Colon in the pen, since now they have to find a replacement for him. That all said, he’s easily the most experienced and between Spring Training and what he’s done so far, he’s earned the shot.
I think Noesi is already the replacement for him…
Yeah, I think limited pitch count may end up being the key there… 3-4 innings Colon and then you probably need a Noesi anyway. Since Colon is the veteran and Noesi has never thrown a MLB pitch, they might prefer to have Noesi relieve Colon rather than the other way around.
I think Colon has earned a shot given the way he’s pitched since spring training.
Who would have thought Colon and Garcia would both be starting and Hughes removed for ineffectiveness?
I was just listening to MLB radio and everyone is freaking out about this saying u can’t send someone to the dl one day after the pitcher and the mgr say he’s feeling fine. Any chance the yanks get in trouble for this, if so what can MLB do?
No way, teams lie to the media all the time.
If they didn’t do anything to Ollie Perez and the Mets, they are not going to do anything to the Yanks or Hughes.
Nothing, really. It would be the Player’s Union that might have a problem with this, not other MLB teams.
The union won’t care. Hughes still gets his fully salary and collects service time while on the DL. His replacement does as well, so if anything it’s a plus for the union.
It’s when they send guys down to the minors to manipulate service time that the union cares.
5 days late but I’m glad the Yankees decided to make the correct and responsible move.
If Hughes can go ont the DL with a “dead arm”, can Gardner go on the DL with a “dead bat” ?
“Low grit count”
of course he can
first put Jeter on the DL with dead everything
As bad as it sounds, I am almost glad Betances and Banuelos have minor blister problems… Could you imagine the insanity that would ensue if either of them were healthy right now.
Surprised they did it after just three starts, but it’s the right move.
Oh definately the right move, he had nothing last night… He hasnt had anything this year…Get him fixed and try again, thats all they can do…
“my arm feels dead.”
that cant be good
Great move. Colon deserves to start after his last two outings. All Colon did was come in, strike people out, and keep us in the ballgame. Hughes is only 24 and has a dead arm? That concerns me. I don’t think we can expect anything from him in the future. Good thing we picked up a veteran like Colon.
Is this satire?
A bunch of boys living in their mom’s basements, glued to the computer screens the entire day, priding themselves on knowing the names of every yankee minor leaguer. Used to be able to get some info, ask some questions, get some answers here. Now it reminds me of the old NoMaas board, where every question is attacked, and if you never heard of Pendelton, you are an idiot. The writers have good days, but the fellow message posters here are getting tired, jumping on every little comment and calling people names. So long, “fans”, have fun dissing each other for little differences about dead arms and call ups.
Is this satire?
Jeter exposed