Game 73: Right back at it


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The Yankees already have one win to their credit today, now they’re going to try to make it two. Get greedy boys, don’t be content with two of three. Here’s the starting nine…

Brett Gardner, LF
Curtis Granderson, CF
Mark Teixeira, 1B
Alex Rodriguez, 3B
Nick Swisher, RF
Russell Martin, C
Eduardo Nunez, SS
Ramiro Pena, 2B
Brian Gordon, SP

Tonight’s game will be broadcast on My9, which means we’re probably due for a rain delay given the channel’s recent history. Game starts at 7:10pm ET, so enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Kramerica Industries says:

    Looking at the standings, I can’t be the only one who senses a very eerily similar feel to the 2009 regular season, to this point.

    -Red Sox leading the pack and rolling the past few months

    -Yankees dominating every team not located in Boston

    -Rays trudging along, lurking in the shadows but not quite making a big move on either of the two ahead of them, though always a threat to

    If the Yankees win and the Pads hold on in their rain delayed infestation, the Yankees are in 1st place. That would be nice.

    • YankeesJunkie says:

      Yes, the similarities between 2009 and 2011 are not that hard to see when you compare to the two seasons. However, I find it hard to see the Yankees having the type of rotation that they did in 09′. CC, Andy, and Burnett were superb for the most part throughout the series. While CC should pitch well I don’t know if Colon will be able to keep the magic going and then you have guys like Burnett, Hughes, Nova, and Garcia where you really don’t know what to expect.I do foresee the Yankees going after another starter so depending on who it is it may solidify the playoff rotation. In terms of offensive prowess the Yankees are arguably the best in baseball with Red Sox and everyone else in another league. The pen is an enigma still with injuries, but Mo and Robertson provide a more than adequate 1-2 punch.

      • Kramerica Industries says:

        Oh, I completely agree. The way the two seasons enveloped differs. My point was that, despite whatever factors may be at play, it is interesting to see the bottomline similarities that exist, thus far.

        I would never expect things to continue on this way. It’ll be fun while it lasts.

    • Kevin D. says:

      I find it hard to get excited for a game that Cano is not playing in. Bummer.

  2. dkidd says:

    at least one double play grounder will be botched in gif-worthy fashion

  3. jdp says:

    More fun and frolics with Ramiro!

  4. OriginalDunDada says:

    Why in the hell is Pena in the lineup again?? I would rather play Posada at second then Pena. Atleast he can hit….

  5. Karl Krawfid says:

    Brian Gordon will hit a slam

  6. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    So Girardi plays Pena and Nunez twice, but he doesn’t play Cano twice?? I know Cano’s way more valuable than Nunez or Pena so you don’t want him to get hurt, but especially with the off day tomorrow, it doesn’t really make sense.

    • bonestock94 says:

      Pena + Nunez = utility scrubs

      Cano = star player at challenging position that can use a day or two off

      Girardi said the long (16?) game stretches were tough on the team in reference to ARod and Tex resting earlier. Seems like a reasonable thing to do.

  7. jdp says:

    Boston lost. First place is on the line. Bear down, boys!

  8. Karl Krawfid says:

    1st place by a couple percentage points baby yeah!!

  9. Don’t look now, but a win tonight makes us the only other .600 team in baseball.

  10. Sweet Dick Willie says:

    ESPN: “Rare Posada HR lifts Yanks”

    Pedroia also has 6 HRs. I can’t imagine the same headline if his next HR wins a game for the Sux. But maybe that’s just me.

  11. Xstar7 says:

    I fully and wholeheartedly expect Brian Gordon to not only pitch a CGSO, but go 4-4 with 4 grand slams and cap off the night by making a spectacular diving catch to end the game.

    • Chip says:

      In centerfield, yes he’s going to make the last out by throwing the pitch and then sprinting back and catching the ball in center

  12. lily says:

    didn’t we see enough of pena the first game?

  13. first time lawng time says:

    Something cool: the Yankees only have 2 4 game win streaks. Yet they have one of the best records in.baseball. They also have one of the bet records despite a questionable pitching staff, crumbling BP, and hitters underperforming.

    Cool. Although it would be nice to have a 9 game win streak…

    • Chip says:

      Colon and CC being absolute studs, AJ having a mediocre year in which is a very good number three, Garcia is going all Jamie Moyer on the league and Nova being hit or miss at the fifth. How is that a questionable pitching staff? I have a hard time finding many other teams with better staffs other than the Mariners and Phillies

      • first time lawng time says:

        Well AJ was coming off a bad year, and no one expected Colon and Garcia to pitch as well as they have, and I think many people aren’t expecting Colon and Garcia to sustain how they’ve been pitching.

    • CS Yankee says:

      The SP bashing needs to stop though, they have done really, really well overall.

      Yes, we would trade them all for the Giants, Rays, Braves & Phillies starters, but they are doing better than anyone would have projected.

      • first time lawng time says:

        I don’t think “questionable” is bashing. Let’s be honest, I think many people believe Colon and Garcia will regress. Also, many people have no faith in AJ.

        Would you be comfortable with this pitching staff in the post season? I wouldn’t. They’ve been pitching well, but it would be nice to get a reliable starter.

        • They’re only questionable in terms of future success. They’re not questionable in terms of past or present success, though, so they don’t have one of the best records in baseball “despite” any future questions about the staff.

          There’s a difference between a pitching staff that has been questionable and a pitching staff that could be questionable. Gigantic difference.

          • first time lawng time says:

            Gee I’m sorry.

          • first time lawng time says:

            On paper, before the season started, everyone questioned how the pitching would hold up. So, yes, they have won games despite their predetermined weakness.

            • But those questions have proven moot. Even with Hughes going backwards and then imploding, the rotation has been stalwart, not questionable.

              They may have been questionable on paper, and they may be questionable in theory going forward, but we have not, to this point, actually had a questionable rotation. We’ve had an exceedingly effective rotation.

              In no way, shape, or form are the 2011 Yankees winning games “despite” their (insert adjective of your choice) rotation

              • first time lawng time says:

                But my point was, they have overcome the “questionable” staff, pitched well (turn the predetermined weakness into a legit strength, to this point) and used that to win games.

                They overcame the prediction and proved it wrong.

                • Then say they overcame the “reportedly” questionable staff, or the “erroneously” questionable staff. Or describe the disconnect between popular acclaim and actual results in some way.

                  “They also have one of the best records despite a much-maligned pitching staff, crumbling BP, and hitters underperforming.”

                  That works. The way you said it originally doesn’t.

        • CS Yankee says:

          I understand what your saying.

          2011 current comfort level:
          CC & Lester are a push
          Josh over AJ
          Colon over Clay (but close)
          Garcia over Lackey

  14. Rey22 says:

    Wow, did Boston really lose 2 out of 3 from the Padres?

  15. Stratman9652 says:

    Massive thanks to whoever it was that mentioned that my9 games can be seen in a raw feed on Time Warner channel 1027 in upstate NY.

    I was about the get really upset that the local channel up here that normally carries my9 games was airing Access Hollywood instead. Whoever decides on the programming on WSTM needs to get their priorities straight.

  16. first time lawng time says:

    Cueto has a strange delivery. Kinda reminds me of Lincecum’s.

  17. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Anybody going to see McCartney at the Stadium?

  18. Greg says:

    Gonna be tough. Cueto looks good.

  19. Karl Krawfid says:

    A-Rod you could have swung at one of the fastballs right down the middle.

    • Chip says:

      I was hoping Granderson would swing 3-0. You’re second in the league in homers, take a swing if they’re going to cupcake one for you

  20. Greg says:

    Get him out

  21. Cy Pettitte says:

    oy. at least the won the first one.

  22. MikeD says:

    Okay. Gordon experiment over. Bring in Noesi.

    Just kidding.

  23. Nigel Incubator-Jones says:

    -3.25 that fast. Oh well, it was only 50 cents.

  24. Nuñez made a successful throw to first. That’s a good omen. The fates smile on us.

  25. Ben says:

    Errr is anyone else having trouble finding this game? YES is an interview with the guy from transformers, My9 is “are you smarter than a 5th grader” … confusion reigns

  26. CS Yankee says:

    If Gordon gets to bat that should mean that he has had some level of success tonight, right?

  27. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Nunez and Pena make back to back plays?? What happened???

  28. lily says:

    brian gordon is a great story but can’t the yankees call someone else up.

  29. Cy Pettitte says:


  30. Xstar7 says:


  31. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    First pitch Swishin’

  32. Mike Axisa says:

    Wow, oppo bomb. That was no cheapie.

    Also … no smiles dammit!

  33. MikeD says:

    Nice. Swish got swag.

  34. sangreal says:

    It’s a good sign when you’re watching Gameday and see In play, run(s) with nobody on base.

    • S. King says:

      it’s also a good sign when you’re watching Gameday and see In play, run(s) with anybody on base.

    • CS Yankee says:

      Not nearly as good as when its your team batting and the bases are stacked (as it could mean multiple runs).

  35. Chip says:

    Haven’t seen Swish go oppo in a long time

  36. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:


  37. Chip says:

    I like watching Nunez bat more than Jeter mostly because he doesn’t swing at every fastball in the area code

  38. CS Yankee says:

    Miguel Cairo is their 3B? Isn’t he an AARP member & a former AAAA/role player?

  39. MikeD says:

    Does your cat put out? I swear that’s what she’s singing.

    I frankly don’t know if my cat puts out.

  40. Mike Axisa says:

    Brian Gordon: nope.

  41. Chip says:

    Alright, less of that big curve. You can’t throw that to every batter

  42. Greg says:

    Please take him out

  43. Xstar7 says:

    Jesus Christ Gordon

  44. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Noesi please

  45. jon says:

    well this experiment was fun

    time for noesi

  46. dkidd says:

    double switch:

    noesi replaces gordon

    gordon replaces pena at second base

    /national league’d

  47. MikeD says:

    Miguel Cairo? Where’s Jose Vizcaino and Luis Sojo still play in the majors, too?

  48. lily says:

    i hope girardi doesn’t wait till the game is out of reach till he pulls him out

  49. Chip says:

    Yeah, at least Noesi can go out and dominate guys. With Gordon, if they guess right, it’s all over

  50. CS Yankee says:

    Pitchers always get the heater.

    Gordon is more like a warming tray though.

  51. StanfordBen says:

    My MLB.tv isn’t working (happening to anyone else?) so I have to listen to the radio, and naturally I chose the Reds over Sterling.

    The Reds announcers just said that there are 8 positional hitting spots in all of baseball that don’t have a home run. 7 are National League starting pitcher spots, and the 8th is the Reds’ shortstop. So 9 NL teams have gotten more home run production out of their pitcher slot than the Reds have out of their shortstop slot. Heh.

  52. CS Yankee says:

    Funny how it ended up throwing two “softies” on the same day, ehh?

  53. Cy Pettitte says:

    Gordon was a great story at least.

  54. pat says:


  55. Cy Pettitte says:

    Cueto pitching around Gordon, he’s so scared.

  56. dkidd says:

    smart walk. can’t let gordon bet you

  57. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    HAHAHAHA a walk for Gordon

  58. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Give Gordon the green light.

  59. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Cueto’s not doing himself any favors by trying to show up the ump.

  60. CS Yankee says:

    Dear mom,

    I’ve waited 32 years to get to hit the cover off the ball and Cueto walks me on four pitches. The sad thing is that i may never get another chance to bat.

    Your son,
    Brian Gordon

  61. Rob says:

    gardner sucks, cant wait for jeter to be in the leadoff spot again

  62. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Dear Tex,

    Why are you swinging at the first pitch? This guy just walked the pitcher on 4 straight!

    Common Sense

  63. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    This team has no passion

    /RAB comments circa 2010′d

  64. CBean says:

    So Gordon actually did better there in that inning than any of our hitters? Oh baseball.

  65. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Back up…the Indians never make mistakes?

    Are we talking about the same franchise, Kay?

  66. Xstar7 says:

    That was strike 3 to Phillips

  67. pat says:

    Phillips has a career .317 obp. Safe to say the Indians’ concerns about his plate discipline were well founded.

  68. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    This ump sucks.

  69. jon says:

    has he given up something OTHER than a hard hit grounder or a fly ball to the warning track?

  70. MikeD says:

    I know Gordon is new, but do his stats in the minor suggest he’s a fly-ball pitcher? Lots of fly-ball outs today, and in this park that’s a bad thing.

  71. James A says:

    This is not the right ump for a 5 pitch, mix and match, max out at 90, corners guy like Gordon

  72. CS Yankee says:

    He better get that ball down or he’ll get murdered.

  73. Greg says:

    Gordon is also very lucky that this Reds team is in a slump because he’s leaving many pitches up.

  74. CS Yankee says:

    Dear AJ,

    Please teach this AAA OF’er how to bury a ball in the dirt.

    wanting the June lead real badly.

    Better do it now

    • CMP says:

      I don’t want AJ teaching the other Yankee pitchers anything. The should watch what he does and then do the opposite.

  75. Greg says:

    Bench, Hunter, Morgan, ?

  76. Greg says:

    Early but would it be interesting if our C lineup scored more runs than our A lineup.

  77. lily says:

    good thing we won the first game. would’ve sucked if we lost it cuz cueto looks good

  78. If I were a Reds fan I would rock the fuck out of a Pete Rose jersey.

    • Xstar7 says:

      The dude belongs in the Hall of Fame. There are players in the hall of fame who have done worse things than gamble on games.

      • Shoeless Joe Jackson received a lifetime ban.

        He’s dead.

      • Mike Axisa says:

        If it wasn’t for the hit record, nothing about his career says Hall of Fame. He hung around a long, long time to get that record, even when he was a detriment to his team.

        • In his 15-year prime from 1965-1979 (age 24-38), he hit .316/.388/.442 (130+).

          The tail end was ugly, sure, but plenty of HoF guys hang around way too long and drag down their numbers too much. In his prime, Rose was an excellent, excellent hitter.

        • MikeD says:

          I think that might be a bit extreme, although I suppose it depends on where one draws his personal line for the HOF. For comparative purposes to others elected:

          Black Ink: Batting – 64, Average HOFer ? 27
          Gray Ink: Batting – 239, Average HOFer ? 144
          Hall of Fame Monitor: Batting – 308, Likely HOFer ? 100
          Hall of Fame Standards Batting – 55, Average HOFer ? 50

          Ranks 45th all time in bWAR.

          He gets overrated, but he can be in my HOF.

        • DCBX says:

          All-Star at 2B, 3B, and LF is pretty damn good.

        • Guest says:

          TSJC points out some pretty impressive rate numbers below. 130 OPS+ over a 15 year span is nothing to sneeze at.

          And, I think it would be strange to leave the all-time hit leader out of the hall of fame (presuming there were no other…um…extenuating circumstances).

          It is the Hall of “Fame”…and the owner of the most hits all-time should meet the “fame” standard.

          I personally am looking forward to all of A-Rod’s counting stat accomplishments. He’s got an uber legit shot at most HR’s, most RBI’s, well more than 3000 hits. Should be fun to see where he ends up.

          • MikeD says:

            The HOF is as much about marketing the game as anything else. The idea that the all-time hit leader (Rose); all-time HR leader (Bonds); and probable eventual all-time HR leader (A-Rod) will never be in the HOF, along with many other great players, is a substantial problem.

      • CMP says:

        Maybe other’s have done worse things to society but gambling on baseball is the worst thing you could ever do to the game other than throwing a game.

      • MikeD says:

        There are almost assuredly players in the HOF who actually gambled on games.

  79. MikeD says:

    Smilin’ Swish. Where’s Cuso?

  80. CP says:

    Damn, Swisher just looks ugly out there…

  81. pat says:

    And now the strike zone is getting bigger. Awesome.

  82. James A says:

    Not to spoil Dotf, but Tampa is getting 1998 Kerry Wood’ed

  83. Greg says:

    Its over

    • Sweet Dick Willie says:

      Yep. Yanks should just forfeit their last 12 outs. Never, never in the storied history of baseball has a team overcome a 3 run deficit with 4 innings to go.

  84. Xstar7 says:

    Gordon is done

  85. Jonathan Harker says:

    That piece of trash did it again. When’s Colon coming back?

  86. lily says:

    ok its over. i just hope this gordon experiment is also over

  87. Mike Axisa says:

    Oh well. Tough to sweep doubleheaders anyway. I’d take 2/3 with Nova, Garcia, and Gordon going all season long.

  88. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Hurry back, Bartolo

  89. BigTimeBartolo says:

    So yeah, Noesi >> Gordon

  90. King George says:

    No, please Gordon…just throw more cock-high fastballs right down the middle.

  91. Rob says:

    boone logan warming up so he can come in and hit votto in the back

  92. Cy Pettitte says:

    3 HRs in 5 innings, oof.

    • Preston says:

      Don’t the Reds know that to many homers is a bad thing? At least that’s what everyone keeps saying about us.

  93. Mojo says:

    Meh. I didn’t expect much against Cueto. Would’ve been nice to get the sweep, though. – Also, I’m not “bailing” on the team, but let’s be honest, they don’t look especially adept tonight . . .

  94. tom says:

    Just checking in to see if people were declaring the game over…and of course they are.

    Four innings left, people. Play it out.

  95. Cy Pettitte says:

    getting advice from Cervelli, great.

  96. CMP says:

    Cashman needs to take some advice from KLaw and get Noesi in the rotation and send Gordon to the pen as long man.

  97. Ivan says:

    Wow its pretty amazing how O’Neil really transformed himself into a really good hitter once he became a yankee.

    • MikeD says:

      The Reds always wanted him to be power hitter, so he’d pull too much. There were fears he’s pull the ball even more at Yankee Stadium, but he did just the opposite at the start.

      Also, he wasn’t a bad hitter as a Red. 111 OPS+, but he was 125 as a Yankee. It seems like there should be even more of a difference looking at his splits, but his Yankees years also occurred durin a higher offense time.

  98. wow says:

    gonna have to “settle” for 2/3.

  99. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Marge Schott really had this city in her heart.

    Well, except for the black and jewish citizens.

  100. Cy Pettitte says:

    odds Boone retires the two lefties he’ll be facing this inning?

  101. lily says:

    yay booon logan is pitching!!!!!

  102. Greg says:

    Now we’re in trouble

  103. CBean says:

    Ok Boone. Now I’ve give up on this game.

  104. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Logan? Why not use Noesi?

  105. Crime Dog says:

    Boone Logan got a lefty out. YCPB

  106. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Hey, Boone Logan got a lefty out!

    Sweet, sweet vindication for Girardi’s binder

  107. Mariano's Pimp Hand says:

    7 pitches already. That’s a heavy workload for Logan.

  108. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    And Kay references John Flaherty’s catch in Seattle in 5…4…3…2…

  109. Xstar7 says:


  110. Stratman9652 says:

    Yes Micheal, Paul does want you to jump out of the booth.

  111. Cy Pettitte says:

    Boone Logan, lefty killer

  112. Greg says:


  113. lily says:

    lol of course he gets both leftys out.

  114. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Boone gets back to back lefties out. Baseball can’t be predicted.

  115. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Wade’s windup looks just like mine did when I pitched high school


  116. MikeD says:

    I’m still waiting to see the supposed range.

  117. pat says:

    I *hate* Johnny Gomes.

  118. It’s not a Yankee game without some pasta diving.

  119. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Is tonight Game 72 or 73?

  120. Cy Pettitte says:

    Russell ain’t havin’ none of that.

  121. Xstar7 says:

    Russell Martin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Francisco Cervelli

  122. wow says:

    when does Cano come in to save this game?

  123. karcotte says:

    What was Gomes whining about at the end of that play?

  124. Xstar7 says:

    stat-padding single

  125. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    C’mon Swish, take one for the team

  126. Cy Pettitte says:

    now would be a nice time for a Cueto meltdown.

  127. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Haha, even Swish thought that the 3-0 was gonna be called a strike.

    There’s a special section in hell reserved for umps who wait 5 seconds before calling a pitch.

  128. Karl Krawfid says:

    Martin can’t hit :(

  129. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Cueto having an AJ-like inning.

  130. CBean says:

    come on rally!

  131. Brooklyn Ed says:

    hmm, is it wrong to have Martin bunt?

  132. Jonathan Harker says:

    Nothing to see here, folks. Ballgame was over 3 innings ago as we settled for 2/3.

  133. Brooklyn Ed says:

    eck, Martin swung at ball 4.

  134. CP says:

    Can we please have the April version of Russell Martin back?

  135. BigTimeBartolo says:

    Come on Russ…


  136. Cy Pettitte says:

    this game has slowed to a painful crawl

  137. Mike Axisa says:

    Good job with the pinch-hitter. Love this move.

  138. Karl Krawfid says:

    If you gon’ pinch hit cano…


  139. Guest says:

    Cano for Nunez over Cano for Pena?

  140. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Cano should PH for Pena not Nunez because Nunez is a somewhat decent hitter.

  141. Cy Pettitte says:

    thank you Votto and Cueto

  142. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    That’s a lucky break. Now make ‘em pay

  143. Votto’s having a Ramiro Peña day in the field today.

  144. BigTimeBartolo says:


  145. Cy Pettitte says:

    time for Ramiro to be a hero

  146. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Votto pulled a Pena

  147. Karl Krawfid says:

    Pena Slizzzam

  148. Guest says:

    Alright, Pinch hit Jorge for Pena…Jorge to first, Tex, to third, A-rod to short…

    /kidding…kind of

  149. Cy Pettitte says:

    Jorge slam please

  150. BigTimeBartolo says:

    Fucking ‘Miro!

  151. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Really? Don’t PH for Pena????

  152. CBean says:


  153. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    At least Pena didn’t get doubled up.

    This might be the game right here.

  154. Karl Krawfid says:

    Jorge babomb coming up.

  155. MikeD says:

    Jorge does hit HRs in streaks. Can he go back to back?

  156. Cy Pettitte says:

    no runs?!?! what the fuck.

  157. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Great AB.

  158. wow says:

    just unbelievable

  159. Guest says:

    Glad to see they really made Cueto work to get those last two outs.

  160. Mike Axisa says:

    Good grief, take a damn pitch. Both Pena and Posada.

  161. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    I hate when pinch hitters swing at the first pitch.

    Especially with the bases loaded. Dammnit.

  162. CBean says:

    Well that sucked. I was hoping for at least one run.

  163. Karl Krawfid says:

    Well fuck

  164. Greg says:

    All over

  165. Wooderson says:

    that was pretty uncool, dudes

  166. BigTimeBartolo says:

    Ugh that sucked. That was probably the game.


  167. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:


  168. Matt says:

    When you make stupid moves, you get bad results.

    The excuse that Pena may not hit in this inning is absolutely ridiculous. Ramiro Pena is one of the worst hitters in all of baseball, I don’t care what he did in 1 game up here against Texas.

    Even if Cano gets a base hit, Ramiro Pena is up next, and you have no pinch hitter for him. Why in the world would you PH Cano for Nunez? Nunez has enough speed that he’s likely to stay out of a DP. He also has been able to hold his own at the plate.

    Instead, he made a huge mistake and pinch hit for the wrong hitter, and then paid the price when his worst hitter had a horrible AB with the bases loaded.

    Stupid moves, bad results. What do you expect?

    • Greg says:

      WHo would pinch hit for him? Dickerson? Jones? And who would play SS?

    • BigTimeBartolo says:


      FUCKING ‘MIRO!!!

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

      It was the right move. Pena and Jorge just had piss poor at bats. If I was Girardi, I wouldn’t wait until there were two outs to pitch hit Cano.

      • Xstar7 says:

        does not compute

      • Matt says:

        No, it was not. It was the move of a manager who can’t think ahead.

        Even if Cano gets a base hit, Ramiro Pena is coming up next and he has no chance against Cueto. Girardi had no pinch hitter available that he could use for Ramiro Pena.

        You probably have a much higher chance of scoring in the inning if you PH for Pena instead of Nunez. By pinch hitting for Nunez, you not only put a guy in there cold who has a tendency to expand the zone, but if he doesn’t GIDP you have a terrible hitter at the plate to try to pick him up.

        If Nunez hits into a DP, that’s something that Cano would have probably been more likely to do anyway and that’s bad luck. You are down 3 runs, you need to put together a bigger rally and hence need to string together your better hitters instead of going for it all on one swing.

        • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:


        • AaronGuielWithASmile says:

          You think that the Yankees have a better chance of putting together a bigger rally with Cano on the bench?

          • Matt says:

            Cano would not be on the bench, what are you talking about?

            He would have been on deck ready to pinch hit for Ramiro Pena, who has without a doubt the worst bat of any position player on either roster.

            If Nunez hits into a DP with his speed, that means he hit a ball hard and you got unlucky. That’s not a bad thing. If Cano swings at a pitch a foot off the plate and hits into a DP, that’s just as bad.

            The best chance to score multiple times in that inning was to not have Ramiro Pena batting behind Cano. Even if Cano succeeds, the inning pretty much dies with Pena. Unless Cano hits a double or a home run, you don’t gain much by pinch hitting Cano there.

            Cano was far more likely to hit into a DP than Nunez given his plate discipline, speed, and the fact that he was coming in cold off of the bench. It was a knee jerk move and you know it.

            • Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

              OK, if Cano gets a hit and Pena makes an out, it’s 4-3 where one swing can tie it. If Nunez DP’s or K’ we don’t score at all.

              • Matt says:

                Or that hit could have just been a single and it’s 4-2 with the rally pretty much over.

                Yes, Cano is far more likely to get the extra base hit, but if he doesn’t, the rally is pretty much over.

                Sure, Nunez could have GIDP, but these are the risks that you have to take as a manager. If you consider the likelihood of Nunez GIDP vs. Cano, and the fact that you are more likely to get 2 shots at it with the Nunez/Cano combination, I would think that your average run output would be higher if you PH for Pena.

                • Matt says:

                  Consider if you were able to replay that situation 1000 times with Cano/Pena vs Nunez/Cano at the plate.

                  It’s easy to go for the 3-run HR with Cano because you are scared of the risk of him not getting an AB, but the latter combination would probably do better in a significant number of the scenarios.

                • Mike Axisa says:

                  Are you even listening to what you’re saying?

                  Or that hit could have just been a single and it’s 4-2 with the rally pretty much over.

                  If you save him for Pena and he doesn’t hit a single, the rally’s over anyway.

                  Yes, Cano is far more likely to get the extra base hit, but if he doesn’t, the rally is pretty much over.

                  And that’s why you use him for Nunez BECAUSE HE’S GUARANTEED TO HIT IN THE INNING.

                  • Matt says:

                    Sorry, replied in the wrong spot:

                    These are the risks that a manager has to take.

                    There’s also the risk of Cano hitting into a DP, or striking out, or getting hit in the knee and going on the disabled list. Every time he plays defense, there is a risk that he slips and twists an ankle.

                    Sometimes, playing the odds means making moves that are unconventional. Sure, Cano may not have gotten an AB in that inning, and people would have ripped Girardi if he didn’t. But you put all your eggs in one basket, and that’s not always the wisest thing either.

        • pat says:

          If Nunez hits into a DP, that’s something that Cano would have probably been more likely to do anyway

          The fuck?

        • Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:


    • pat says:

      You want to guarantee that Robinson Cano gets an at bat. The difference between Cano and Nunez is 10x the difference between Nunez and Pena.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Nunez has hit one ball out of the infield all day, and it was a ten hopper under the shortstop’s glove, and he’s reach base three times in the last four days.

      Give Cano a chance to drive in some runs and set it up for the guy behind him. I bet you’re a fan of saving the closer for the save situation in extra innings on the road.

      • Matt says:

        Set up Ramiro Pena? Yeah, that sure maximizes your chance of scoring runs in the inning.

        The excuse that Nunez could hit into a DP is laughable. He is almost as fast as Brett Gardner out of the right handed batter’s box. The only way that he hits into a DP is if he smokes one right at an infielder, and that’s horrible luck.

        You are down 3 runs, you need to give yourself a chance to string together a few hits. Pinch hitting Cano there was a panic move unless you had someone available to hit for Pena as well. Even if Cano gets a hit, the inning pretty much ends right there because Pena is coming up. If you do it the other way around, you give yourself a chance for a longer rally.

        And don’t even think about that Closer nonsense. That’s not even close to what I’m saying. You’re still looking to pinch hit Cano, you’re just looking to do it for the FAR inferior hitter. Why would you take out Robertson for example at 10 pitches just because it’s the 9th inning? If anything, you’d be better off bringing him in to relieve a Boone Logan in the 7th for instance.

        • Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

          Think about what you’d be saying if Nunez went up and “smokes one right at an infielder” (hit into a DP)

          • Matt says:

            This is not even close to a second guess. I was dumbfounded as soon as I saw the move made, because I knew that unless Cano did it all himself the inning was over.

            By pinch hitting Cano, you give yourself 1 chance basically with a great hitter. By not pinch hitting Cano, you likely give yourself two chances, one with that same hitter, and one with someone who can at least put up a fight at the plate.

            If the move doesn’t work out, it doesn’t mean it was the wrong move. If you make the wrong move, however, you can’t be surprised when the result isn’t as good as you were expecting.

            I wouldn’t be thrilled if Nunez hit into a DP, but I’m not a hypocrite and it wasn’t a second guess to begin with. Just because I criticize, it doesn’t mean I do so blindly. If you people were open-minded enough to consider opinions other than your own, you’d realize that.

            • Mike Axisa says:

              By pinch hitting Cano, you give yourself 1 chance basically with a great hitter. By not pinch hitting Cano, you likely give yourself two chances, one with that same hitter, and one with someone who can at least put up a fight at the plate.

              They pinch-hit Cano and still got two chances after him.

            • Michael Kay says:

              Fallacy of the predetermined outcome

        • Mike Axisa says:

          The excuse that Nunez could hit into a DP is laughable.

          He’s grounded into two double plays since Jeter got hurt, and six in ~150 PA as a big leaguer, which is a Jeterian rate. He GIDP’d ten times in about 2/3 of a season last year in the minors and 19 times the year before. Nunez is definitely a double play candidate, whether you want to believe it or not.

          He is almost as fast as Brett Gardner out of the right handed batter’s box.

          This is so incredibly stupid that I’m not going to continue to conversation.

          • Matt says:

            Do you really think I’m dumb enough to actually say that he has the same time to first base? I’m saying that Nunez has similar speed to Gardner… but starts in the other batter’s box so not quite as fast but still pretty good.

            Assuming that everything that is said is immediately the most extreme and incorrect thing possible just detracts from your own statement because it makes it look more like you are attacking the person instead of the remark.

            I get it, you’re offended that I would dare offer a remark that differs from your own and disagree with you, the mighty blog writer who must be more knowledgeable than any fan. That doesn’t mean that I don’t have a point here.

            • Mike Axisa says:

              Your point is that you want a poor hitter to bat in the most important at-bat of the game so you can save Robinson Cano to hit for an even worse hitter in a theoretical at-bat that might not even happen in the inning.

              And don’t play the victim with me, people prove me wrong all day long. You are not one of them right now.

              • Matt says:

                Answer this question then:

                If we could hypothetically replay that scenario 1000 times over, which combination do you think would have scored the most runs on average? Nunez/Cano or Cano/Pena?

                I am willing to admit that the Cano/Pena combination may be more likely to score a run in general because of the double play possibility with Nunez. However, you are down 3 runs, not 1. So I still think the first question is more relevant.

                Sometimes I think that managers ride emotional swings too often and don’t think through the odds. It’s easy to pinch hit Cano and go for it all on one swing, but given the situation I felt and still feel that it was far more risky.

    • Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

      If Joe just started Cano we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

  169. CMP says:

    DFA Pena and lets get Culver up here already.

  170. pat says:

    Let him off the hook :(

  171. Cy Pettitte says:

    Hector Noesi folks, relegated to rotting in the pen.

  172. Xstar7 says:


  173. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    I should be feeling worry about Rolen blowing the game open, but I still can’t get over my absolute shock that Miguel Cairo still plays baseball.

  174. BigTimeBartolo says:

    guys. Lets trade Montero, Banuelos and Sanchez for Bronson Arroyo. We can stick him in the pen to be the longman!!

  175. JohnnyC says:

    You were saying about Noesi?

  176. Greg says:

    You will take a picture, You will take a picture.-Mr. Redlegs

    Still want Noesi to start?

  177. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    What the fuck did Pena smoke this morning???

  178. CBean says:

    I just get sad that other teams get their runners in and we don’t.

  179. MikeD says:

    Noesi not exactly doing a good job if he’s auditioning for Gordon’s spot. My guess is no change in the rotation after both performances tonight.

  180. pat says:

    I fucking hate losing.

  181. karcotte says:

    Dudes, the comeback is gonna be freakin’ sweet.

  182. BigTimeBartolo says:

    Damn you Ramiro!!!

  183. MikeD says:

    Fear the arm.

  184. Nnamdi says:

    Lets see Adam Warren pitch!

  185. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Can we get Noesi out of the game, please?

  186. Jerome S. says:

    fuck this.
    To the pen! again…

  187. Karl Krawfid says:

    Taking 2-3 is great.

    First place was fun for a couple hours!

  188. Jonathan Harker says:

    Noesi’s unraveling. Hope Bartolo is back when his 15 days are up next week.

  189. BigTimeBartolo says:

    Really Hector?

    Ok get him the fuck out of there, he’s done.

  190. pat says:

    Gomes is such a fucking scumbag.

  191. JMK says:

    Derek Jeter’s panoramic roof has more edge than Noesi.

  192. Jerome S. says:

    Well…. well this fucking stinks!!!!!!

    Ok. I feel a bit better.

  193. iloveyoubartolo says:

    I mean, it’s not like he had a 4.88 xFIP before the game.

  194. Jerome S. says:

    Clearly, this poor performance by the team is evidence that Derek Jeter needs to lead off.

    Joe Girardi

  195. CP says:

    It says something about the ump when all of the hitters pause for a long time before throwing their bat away and going to first on a walk…

  196. Jerome S. says:

    No, it’s not strange, Michael. Dusty Baker is just a crazy old man playing a boys game.

  197. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    Don’t call it a comeback

  198. Jerome S. says:

    Cleveland – definitely the only team with two “Travis’s” on it’s roster.

  199. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    How is that not a HR? Blame Cervelli.

  200. Sundance Kid says:

    Where did all the Noesi d***riders go?

  201. Karl Krawfid says:

    A-Rod hits rockets bro

  202. pat says:

    Why does Dusty Baker need 4 sweat bands?

  203. Mike Axisa says:

    Eek, another inning for Noesi? Send Carlyle out there, man.

  204. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    “PASTADIVING A-Rod” just doesn’t have the same ring to it..

  205. pat says:

    Lol, we’re paying the pied piper for all those line drives that were caught in the first game. Now every GB is finding a hole.

  206. Sundance Kid says:

    When you rattle off a series of complaints about girardi pitching gordon ahead of noesi you better hoipe he doesnt come in and look absolutely atrocious

  207. BigTimeBartolo says:

    Why the fuck are they stealing in a 5 run game?

  208. AaronGuielWithASmile says:

    C’mon Joe, get Noesi out of there. No sense leaving him in to keep getting whupped.

  209. Stratman9652 says:


  210. JohnnyC says:

    With Phelps out with a shoulder problem, there’s a rotation spot open for Noesi in Scranton.

  211. BigTimeBartolo says:

    This is fucking pathetic. Chris Heisy?

    Fucking Hector Noesi and Ramiro Pena

  212. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Chris fucking Heisey??? 3 HR’s?????

  213. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Just makes our inevitable comeback even more sweet.

  214. John Kruk's belly says:

    Noesi is losing trade value by the second

  215. tom says:

    So, to review:

    Gordon — 5 innings, 5 hits, 4 runs

    Noesi — 1 2/3 innings, 8 hits, 6 runs

    How could Girardi be so stupid as to start Gordon?

    • JohnnyC says:

      It’s Ramiro’s fault!

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Noesi’s ERA is still a full run lower than Gordon’s.

      • tom says:

        Not knocking Noesi. Just poking at the knee-jerk “Every move Girardi makes is stupid” attitude of some around here.

        • Matt says:

          Well, Girardi does make many questionable moves that are too much “by the book.”

          Of course, this wasn’t one of them, but to brush off any criticism as knee jerk is excessive as well.

          Gordon’s stuff would not play as well out of the pen as Noesi’s, and tonight’s result doesn’t change that. Of course, Noesi probably deserved the starting role to begin with. However, if you have an option like Gordon, you might as well just leave him in the pen.

      • iloveyoubartolo says:

        he also has one more win.

    • John Kruk's belly says:

      Okay now. Who gives a shit already? We need Colon back ASAP or Cashman better be working diligently on finding us another starter.

    • CMP says:

      In all fairness, Noesi probably needs some time to work the rigor mortis out of his arm.

  216. CMP says:

    Noesi sure took the steam out of Matt’s eruption over the Cano/Pena/Nunez controversy.

    • Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

      He’s still at it.

    • Matt says:

      Except that would only be true if you could be certain that the exact same thing would have happened had they gotten it done there, which is just ridiculous.

      Any opinion though that dares to diverge from the posse of common posters is deplorable. How dare I have the nerve to post in YOUR comments section?

  217. Xstar7 says:

    ESPN is creaming it’s pants right now

  218. Jorge says:

    This would not be the night to trade Noesi, Adam Warren, and a random Almonte for Felix Hernandez.

    We all screw the pooch sometimes. Two out of three is fine with me.

  219. nooooo not another double play! says:

    Well, 2 out of 3 aint bad.

  220. BigTimeBartolo says:

    At least Robbie is raising that BA…

  221. MikeD says:

    It’s not too late. They can do this!

    Hey, nothing wrong with unsuppored enthusiasm. It’s worth a try.

  222. Matt says:

    These are the risks that a manager has to take.

    There’s also the risk of Cano hitting into a DP, or striking out, or getting hit in the knee and going on the disabled list. Every time he plays defense, there is a risk that he slips and twists an ankle.

    Sometimes, playing the odds means making moves that are unconventional. Sure, Cano may not have gotten an AB in that inning, and people would have ripped Girardi if he didn’t. But you put all your eggs in one basket, and that’s not always the wisest thing either.

  223. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    4-2 road trip is good

  224. Carl says:

    Winning road trip.

  225. nsalem says:

    affordable loss would have been nice to be in 1st place with a over .600 wp
    no big deal we’re coming home.

  226. Monteroisdinero says:

    Agree with affordable loss. Heisey with more HR’s in one game than Jeter has for the year.

    Non-fun fact.

  227. bonestock94 says:

    Terrible loss, but at least we’re not a bunch of fruity Rangers fans. Just when you think it can’t get worse after claws and antlers, it does.


    • Xstar7 says:

      What a load of bullshit. I’m glad the Yankees are one of the only, if not the only team that doesn’t take part in stupid gimmicks like that.

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