Jul
27

Open Thread: A-Rod’s Birthday

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Alex Rodriguez isn’t with the Yankees right now because of his knee surgery, but that’s no reason to skip out on wishing him a happy birthday. He turns 36 today, and is the most productive position player in baseball that age or older in terms of bWAR (3.2). Todd Helton (2.6) is the only other guy that age that has been worth more than two wins to his team this year. Earlier today we heard that Alex will start his baseball related rehab activities with the team in New York rather than Tampa, but he’s still a few weeks from returning. It’ll be nice to have him back, it’s impossible to replace a hitter of his caliber and there’s definitely a different vibe to the offense when he’s out.

Anyway, here is tonight’s open thread. The now Carlos Beltran-less Mets are playing the Reds at 7pm ET (Pelfrey vs. Arroyo), and Beltran’s new team (the Giants) are in Philadelphia (Cain vs. Hamels) on ESPN at the same time. The trade can’t be official for 24 hours because of his no-trade clause per league rules, so Beltran isn’t in the lineup for San Fran tonight. Use this thread to talk about anything your heart desires, so have at it.

Categories : Open Thread
  • Simon

    Yes or no: Cashman pulls the trigger for Ubaldo?

    • YankeesJunkie

      For Montero, Betances, and Nova I say yes.

      • Alfredo

        ill do it if instead of montero they take romine or sanchez. but if the do not bite before sunday they i take that deal.

      • YankeeKlingy

        say what!!? so you’re saying you want to give up a great future catcher, our best future starter, and our current ever-growing starter for a guy that isn’t even a REAL Ace???? wow, Ubaldo did real good up until after the All-Star break last season, and now he has reverted back to his old normal everyday starter as he’s been every other season except for last season. Cashman shouldn’t pull the trigger for those players, not worth it. Ubaldo could be beneficial a bit, but not risking the future of our New York Yankees in turn for a guy who is no better than an AJ Burnett type pitcher.

        • http://nyyprospectwatch.blogspot.com Bryan L

          Uh, Montero isn’t a great future catcher. He’s a great future hitter, the catcher part is still an uncertainty.

          30% of prospects actually pan out. Think about that for a second.

    • http://twitter.com/rebeccapbp Squishy Jello Person

      No. it feels like a panic move.

      • YankeesJunkie

        4-5 WAR pitchers that are cheap for 2.5 years more don’t grow on trees and I would rather trade for Ubaldo than say sign Wilson.

        • pat

          I’d rather only pay Wilson $$ than have to give up our top prospects and then an eventual long term deal to Ubie.

          • YankeesJunkie

            5/90 for a pitcher past 30 who is having a career is not a good move. Also his BB/9 rate going down so low seems more like a one year thing than anything else.

            • Jimmy McNulty

              5/90 for CJ Wilson? He’s only had two good years as a starter and in 2010 he lead the majors in walks. He’s a good pitcher, but he’s not as young as you’d think and he definitely has his flaws. That’s a bit ridiculous. I mean, good for him if he can get the deal…but I think it’ll be closer to 60 million than 90 million.

              • YankeesJunkie

                Still think he is going to be closer to 5/90 than 4/60 just because the market is bouncing back and some team will splurge.

                • Jimmy McNulty

                  I mean, why do teams sign these two starter types to big money. Lackey, I understood at the time because he was lights out in the playoffs in 2009 and he was only a couple of years removed from several awesome years. FWIW, John Lackey, while terrible, is still limiting walks and his advanced stats suggest that he’s no where near as bad as his ERA suggests, yet still terrible.

              • CP

                Lee only had 3 good seasons and he signed for much more than that.

                • Jimmy McNulty

                  Yeah, that’s kind of a false comparison. Lee had three elite seasons. Two of his best seasons would be more valuable than three CJ Wilson years. Comparing what Cliff Lee got to what CJ Wilson will get would be like comparing Nick Swisher’s eventual contract to what Adrian Gonzalez signed for.

                  • CP

                    Lee got an ace type deal for three years of ace performance plus a bunch of crap. Wilson will get a #2 type deal for two seasons of number two performance. A #2 type deal is basically what AJ and Lackey got.

                    • Jimmy McNulty

                      AJ and Lackey had much longer track records, especially Lackey. Lackey had an awesome playoff performance in 2009, which always gets you a bigger contract, and a few years of CYA caliber pitching. The comparison is dumb.

        • Jimmy McNulty

          I mean, honestly even if they trade for Ubaldo, signing CJ Wilson to a like a 4/60ish deal would still be a good move. The rest of Hughes’ career is still a giant question mark, and I’m not sure how smart keeping Bartolo or Freddy around would be.

          • YankeesJunkie

            CJ is going to get AJ/Lackey money, closer to 5/90 than 4/60.

            • vin

              Agreed. Lefty, has succeeded in a hitters park, and doesn’t have millions of miles on his arm. I think he gets AJ/Lackey money ± a couple bucks.

              • Jimmy McNulty

                John Lackey had a peak better than anything CJ Wilson has done, or likely will do. AJ Burnett, I think got overpaid, and look how both contracts have worked out. Do you honestly think clubs will bid that high for him?

                • vin

                  I do. Every time I think salaries are on the decline, a team like the Tigers pay through the nose of Joaquin Benoit.

                  CJ is lefthanded, throws pretty hard, has good stuff, has a short but successful track record and is breathing. He’ll get paid very well.

                  The biggest thing working against Wilson is that his current team may not go that hard after him though. I mentioned it earlier today, but Lewis, Ogando, Harrison, Holland, and Hunter may make CJ expendable. He’s the #1 starter on a playoff team, but TX may not have the cash to pay him.

                  Their payroll jumped almost 30 million from ’10 to ’11 and they’re going to have to pay Hamilton, Cruz, and Kinsler in the next couple years. They may choose to earmark their dollars to re-signing two of those guys instead of CJ Wilson.

                  • Jimmy McNulty

                    I mean, I think Texas is the only team that would do that. They’ve got a legitimate chance to be a playoff contender for the better part of the rest of the decade. They can sign CJ Wilson for six years and there’s a good chance that he’ll be a big part of a playoff run in every year. He’s a home grown guy, the fans are attached to him, he’s been good in their ballpark, and honestly: what other choice do they have? If he doesn’t sign with Texas, I’d be pretty surprised if he got paid more than AJ or Lackey.

                    • vin

                      I’m not sure he’d get paid more than those guys.

                      If they don’t lock-up guys like Hamilton, Cruz and Kinsler, then the team won’t necessarily be a playoff lock.

                      Actually, if anything, I can see CJ leaving a few bucks on the table to stay in TX. He really does seem to like it there, and enjoy being a part of that team. Plus, he has the demeanor of a guy who’s willing to do what makes him happy. Not saying he’d re-sign for 3/36, but maybe he’d take a 4 year deal after all. I’m definitely curious.

                    • Jimmy McNulty

                      Never said that they’d be a playoff lock but that division doesn’t have a juggernaut or a foreseeable juggernaut like Boston, New York, Philadelphia, or even the recent Tampa teams in there. Texas really only has to win 90 games and they’re in the playoffs.

                    • vin

                      I think they’d have the pitching to be a 90 win team even without CJ. Money may be better spent elsewhere.

    • Brooklyn Ed

      rather have Danks.

    • Rich in NJ

      Not if it means trading Montero.

    • Will (the other one)

      He has to. According to Ace Reporter Johnette Howard, if Cashman doesn’t get another “significant” starter by the deadline, CC will literally pack up his belongings and leave town forever.

    • Jorge

      No. My hunch is 10% chance, and rightfully so.

  • pat

    Here’s to hoping Rasmus simply put up a career year very,very, early in his career. I’ll be fine if he turns into another BJ Upton.

  • Mickey Scheister

    I hope they stand pat, they have the ingredients to win with the current roster. If they can get Wandy for only money, yes but if the Rockies are trading Ubaldo, there is something up. Seems fishy.

    • Simon

      See that’s the thing that bothers me with whether to pull the trigger or not. Do they know something others don’t? Is there something in his delivery or his mechanics that could potentially hurt him in the future? We don’t know but, I think I would trade for him as long as we don’t have to give up both ManBan and Betances in a deal.

      • Mickey Scheister

        Normally, I’d say go ahead but something seems up if their so willing to trade him. They very well could pull the trigger, this could be the trade of the year. I’d personally rather have ManBan, Betances and Jesus all starting in pinstripes on the cheap for 7 years than 2.3yrs of a solid numbers from Ubaldo, when they could sign Jackson or CJ Wilson in the offseason for comparable production in the offseason.

        • Simon

          I would pull the trigger as well for Ubaldo, but if that doesn’t work I would try to pry away Danks or Floyd from the White Sox for cheaper. But if Cashman doesn’t make a trade before the deadline, I’ll be ok with it. The only things I’m afraid of is the way the killer B’s will be handled, the last thing the Yankees would want is Joba/Hughes part 2 with their prized prospects.

          • Mickey Scheister

            Amen there, if the Bs get traded and succeed elsewhere that’s no guarantee they would be handled the same way in NY. Danks or Floyd would work for a fraction of prospects.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Low probability game today for a victory when they already had won the series, and they got ass-canned.

    It’s much, much easier to get over than, say, that Mets game a few weeks back. What I’m about to say is a general point, not directed at anyone here – but the phrase “house money game” is so commonly used for a team that has already taken a series going into the final matchup, and many times it’s true. However, if the Yankees have a late lead and lose it, the game loses that feeling, at least for me. Late leads should generally result in W’s.

    Not today though. Thank God.

  • Jimmy McNulty

    Wow, so the Mets and Jays did pretty well today. I guess BJ Upton’s going to St. Louis now? They need someone to play CF and he seems like the fit there.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    I’m not one to call out bridge jumpers but holy shit the world wont end if the yankees dont get another starting pitcher. Like people say they Cashman needs the gut the farm to get Ubaldo because if they won’t they’ll automatically lose in the playoffs. I would say more than don’t worry but Ted Nelson pretty much covered it. There could be a price too high as shocking as that may be. I’m not one to appeal to authority but if they saw anyone worth the top three prospects then they would absolutely do it. Maybe they don,t see it in Ubaldo. It’s not a clear cut answer that he will dominate unlike Lee last year.

    • Avi

      I agree. And the difference between Ubaldo and the CJ Wilsons of the world isn’t Montero.

    • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

      Lee didn’t dominate for the Rangers last year until the playoffs, really, to add to this. (I’m SURE Rangers fans didn’t mind the trade one bit, though.) And agreed. I’d like Ubaldo and I totally disagree with the person above who said it seems like a panic move to acquire him, but maybe he just isn’t TRULY available or they think he’s not worth it.

      That said, if the Yankees DO get him for less than Montero + Banuelos I will be pretty psyched.

      • Jimmy McNulty

        He’s also signed for next year too, that’s something that can’t be forgotten.

        • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

          And the year after as well, right? Like I said, I’d really like Ubaldo. But it’s not like Ubaldo is the difference between making the playoffs and not this year and we’d still have Montero, Banuelos, etc., for later years.

          • Jimmy McNulty

            IIRC 2013 is a player option if he’s traded.

            • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

              No, that’s 2014. Again, IIRC.

              • Jimmy McNulty

                Yep, you’re right.

                Side question: Do you think the Rockies consider what Ubaldo is worth to them, or what Ubaldo is worth to another team when assessing what they want for him? The Rockies always manage to sign players to contracts that are friendlier to them than they are to teams that would trade for a player. However, a team that trades for Ubaldo looks at a young talented pitcher who is under control for 2.5 years…but the Rockies might see the same pitcher but value him as under control for 3.5 years.

  • Hedley Lamarr

    Lackey!

    I just love how Lackey infiltrated the Red Sox to undermine them from within.

  • Brooklyn Ed

    Astros willing to eat half of Wandy Rodriguez’s contract, Cashman make a move??

    • Phife Dawg

      No thanks. Danks and Ubaldo are both better anyway. 5.25 era in inter league play; I’ll pass.

  • Jack Merridew

    Joe says there could be a competition between Hughes and Nova. Trade or no trade I think Hughes loses his job. If Ubaldo or another starter is acquired, somebody’s gotta go and it ain’t gonna be CC, Bartolo, or Freddy. Joe will pick AJ over Phil.

    • YankeesJunkie

      At this point that is pretty easy to believe, but if it is between Hughes and Nova I think Hughes stays ahead of Nova.

  • Avi

    I’d give Hughes in a deal before Montero. Agree?

    • vin

      At this point, Montero might actually be more valuable. Phil only has 2 more years of team control left, and it’ll be his 2 biggest paydays to date. Even though Jesus hasn’t gotten the chance to prove himself in the big leagues, he’s so young and talented, that pretty much everyone agrees his bat will succeed.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      I agree. I wonder if the Yanks feel the same way. Obviously they have a lot invested in Hughes but at the same time is it time to move on.

  • Hedley Lamarr

    Don’t trade Montero.

    Don’t make the mistake Florida and Texas made when they Both traded AGon for pitching help.

    • Will

      My thoughts exactly. I’d rather miss the playoffs and keep Montero, Betances, and Banuelos. I’d rather see the Yanks wait to the offseason to get pitching. Yu Darvish, CJ Wilson, and Edwin Jackson will all be availible.

      • Thomas Cassidy

        Skip out on all of those guys, and sign Jered Weaver.

        No way to Darvish, I’ve seen Japanese pitchers. I wouldn’t make that mistake again, I don’t care how good they are.

        • Alfredo

          i like Yu darvish but i would not care if they did not get him.

          2013 Posibble rotation:
          CC
          Weaver
          Banuelos
          Aj
          Betances

          are you guys ok with this rotation or need more?

          • Thomas Cassidy

            Where’s Hughes? I have a feeling he ends up in the bullpen. I’d take that rotation assuming that Banuelos and Betances pan out.

          • Will

            I’m sorta thinking the Angels will extend Weaver. I think it would be pretty sweet if the Yanks rotation is 80% is homegrown in 3-4 years. Pitching prospects can be volatile, yes I know. But I think it would be cool if the Yanks stop giving huge, questionable contracts to pitchers who always underperform them (cough AJ Burnett, Pavano).

            CC
            Betances
            ManBan
            Noesi
            Nova

            • The Big City of Dreams

              Lol that’s wishful thinking but a Yankee fan can dream.

            • Jorge

              The complete writing off of Phil Hughes on the comment section of this blog is nothing short of amazing.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      The Marlins did trade him for a guy that helped them win the World Series though.

    • Thomas Cassidy

      There’s a big difference between Adam Eaton/Ugueth Urbina and Ubaldo Jimenez.

      • Hedley Lamarr

        yes, at the same time Jesus is ranked #3 prospect at age 22, while AGon was ranked #52 at age 22.

        • Monteroisdinero

          Jesus is 21. Birthday is late November.

      • Jimmy McNulty

        Yeah, I’d be genuinely shocked if Ubaldo wound up in a kidnapping in Venezuela.

  • Phife Dawg

    Pretty surprised that the Giants gave up their #1 pitching prospect for Beltran.

    How Wheeler compared to ManBan/Betances? Hes got control problems though: got 85bbs and 11 HBP and 19 wild pitches his first 2 years in the minors and he’s still in low A ball.

    • Hedley Lamarr

      and the giants didn’t get any salary relief, even though they gave up a top prospect.

      • bonestock94

        All the reports I read said the mets are covering 4 out of 6.5 mil remaining.

        • Hedley Lamarr

          okay. I didn’t see that. that makes sense.

    • SDM

      when the entire staff very young and very very good I think its very easy to give up a young top pitching prospect

  • Thomas Cassidy

    I’d call up Colorado.

    Yankees get:
    Ubaldo Jimenez

    Rockies get:
    Montero, Nova, Warren, Joseph, and Stoneburner.

    Take it or leave it. It will be the only call that I make.

    • Phife Dawg

      I’ll offer to drive them to the airport and pay for their flights.

      No way Colorado is going to accept that though.

      • Thomas Cassidy

        That’s up to them. If they really want to trade him, I think they’d do that deal. It’s the best I would offer them. I’ve seen what Halladay has been traded for, what Lee has been traded for (twice), what Sabathia has been traded for, and what Greinke has been traded for.

        • vin

          Although I agree with your thinking, Doc, Lee, CC and Zack all had either 1, 1.5, or 2 years of control left. Also, every one of those guys were on teams going nowhere (except Lee w/ the Phils, which was inexplicable).

          Either the Rockies know something we don’t know about Ubaldo’s long-term health, or the only way they’ll trade him is if they are bowled over by an offer. I can’t picture Dan O’Dowd at the podium trying to explain why he traded a 27 year old with an electric arm, who was still under control (and undervalued) for the next 3 years.

          I’d personally hate to see them trade any combination of Montero, ManBan, Dellin, but Cashman would be remiss to not give serious consideration to moving 2 of those guys for Ubaldo.

      • Thomas Cassidy

        And if the Rockies don’t require the Reds untouchables, then they shouldn’t require the Yankees’.

      • Jimmy McNulty

        Allegedly they don’t require Devin Morasco or Billy Hamilton, so there’s a chance that they accept it.

    • Jorge

      I’d take the phone away from you before they answered.

  • Phife Dawg

    Bruce Chen gonna Bruce Chen.

    Has a 3-0 lead and gives up back to back home runs to Ellsbury and Pedroia.

  • Jimmy McNulty

    Anyone where like Louis La Roche?

  • first time lawng time

    Are you guys really that concerned about the starting pitching? It’s like you’re willing to deal the brute farm for Ubaldo. They should not give up high prospects like Montero or Banuelos for some pitcher who won’t even guarantee them a WS.

    Not worth it IMO.

    • Jimmy McNulty

      “Are you guys really that concerned about the starting pitching? ”

      Yes.

      “They should not give up high prospects like Montero or Banuelos for some pitcher who won’t even guarantee them a WS.”

      While true, but it still will help their chances a great deal. Signing CC, Teixeira, and AJ in the Winter of 2008 wasn’t going to guarantee a WS victory but everyone knew that it would help their chances quite a bit. I’m willing to go as high as Montero as the Centerpiece. I’d prefer to package a deal around Betances and offer several secondary pieces and keep Montero and Banuelos. If the Rockies wanted something like: Betances, Romine, Sanchez, Adams/Joesph, Nova, and Warren I’d be willing to do it. TBH, that’s awfully similar to the package that the Royals got for Greinke. Lots of talent, some definite upside combined with a few guys that will help next year.

    • vin

      I’m not that concerned about the pitching. But when a talent like Ubaldo comes along, you have to be interested. Not only are there relatively few guys with his ability in the game, most aren’t signed for the next 3 years at a well below market cost.

      It’s his cheap contract (for 3 years of his physical prime) that make this such a remarkable situation. It’s not like trading for Cliff Lee, then having to try and give him an extension, or sign him as a FA after the season.

      The Yanks can get TONS of high-end value for the next 3.5 years, and let him walk away and collect two draft picks when he leaves (if that is still a part of the next CBA).

    • Tom Zig

      Umm yes, I am that concerned about the starting pitching.

      CC Sabathia – the ace, the big man on campus.

      Yes, Bartolo has pitched like a #2 pitcher, but let’s be serious here, it wasn’t too long ago that he considered just hanging ‘em for good. I know, I know, stem cells helped him recover, but that procedure is largely unknown. He’s a ticking time bomb.

      Garcia has pitched well beyond any reasonable expectations at this point in the season. But his smoke and mirrors act will not work against good offenses.

      AJ Burnett. I don’t think I can say anything that hasn’t been said about him.

      Phil Hughes, wasted year. I was expecting big things from him this year. Major step back in his development

      • Jobawockeez

        I have a good concern about pitching. Short term they will make the playoffs and from there it’s luck. Long term is the scary part but they will spend money on Wilson and we all know it unless Ubaldo comes here and it seems unlikely. But make no mistake it’s a concern.

  • Brian S.

    A-Rod is one of my favorite players but man is he going to suck in a couple years (when he’s only halfway done with his contract).

    • Alfredo

      he will be ok as long as he is a DH.

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      Yeah, those last three years on his contract from 2015-2017 (his age 40, 41, and 42 seasons) are going to suuuuuuuuuuuuck.

    • mike c

      yeah, why even bother rooting now if the yankees are going to be worse in a couple years. fortunately for me I age in reverse. I become more physically fit, handsomer, and smarter as I age. by the time I hit 40, I’ll be awesome

      • Brian S.

        That’s not what I said d-bag.

  • Avi

    With how scarce hitting is I’m pretty sure the 30HR 100RBI .300 ave guy is more valuable than the pitcher Ubaldo will likely be over the next two or three years. I assume he perform to the average of his last 3 seasons.

    • vin

      Who’s this .300 / 30 / 100 guy you are talking about? Cano? Granderson? Tex? ARod? I’m asking because Montero hasn’t done that in the big leagues. I DO think he can, but the fact is, until he gets a 2-3 months worth of big league AB’s, he’s still a prospect. At the moment, his value is entirely based on speculation.

      • Avi

        Agreed. Exactly why I put the numbers and not Montero’s name

        • Avi

          I was just trying to make the point that a good hitter is more valuble than a good pitcher.
          Good starting pitching is MUCH MORE ABUNDANT and fungible than what’s etched in our brains.

          • vin

            Not sure if a good hitter is more valuable than a good starter. It is probably closer than it was a few years ago, I’ll give you that.

            I’d love to see someone investigate it.

            • Avi

              Yeah me too. I’m gonna look into it and see if I can come up with some evidence to support the way I feel.

  • Zack

    BTw, in less than two innings, Boston went from being 3-0 to leading 5-3. When was the last time the Yankees did that?

    • Oscar Gamble’s Fro

      Who gives a shit?

    • pat

      The last time Hughes pitched? He gave up two runs then we scored 17. That was a stupid question.

    • Jorge

      Never. You’re right. Go post on their blog, then.

      • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

        we r terriblez

  • Jimmy McNulty

    The package that Greinke was Jake Oddrizzi, Jared Jefferies, Lorenzo Cain, and Alcides Escobar. That’s not a whole lot of “high end” talent, meaning that none of those guys would ever foreseeably be a top 20 prospect. I know Alcides Escobar was, but that’s when people thought that he could hit in the majors, which he’s proved that he can’t. People knew he wasn’t even going to be league average with the bat when he was traded. My point, why aren’t more trades done with a glut of talent that can help soon rather than trading for one or two high end players that are a bit off?

    A package of Nova, Betances, Sanchez, Warren, Adams/Joesph, and Romine is quite a bit of talent, a great mix of high upside players and guys that would step into the Rockies’ line up and pitching staff next year. I wonder how both sides would react to a package like that.

    • vin

      That definitely is a lot of talent, but it’s important to remember that a 6 win player is much more valuable than two 3 win players. And the guys with the biggest upside in that package are either very far away (Sanchez) or have legitimate warts (Dellin).

      Ordinarily I would say the trading team would prefer quality over quantity, but there is a fair amount of quality in that package… so much so that I couldn’t see Cashman doing it.

      The Rockies might be interested… just depends on what they want. Do they want to replenish their farm system? or do they want 1 or two can’t miss prospects? or a great prospect and a young, cheap major leaguer?

      • Jimmy McNulty

        Yeah, that’s the direction that it looks like the Royals went with Zack Greinke. I can’t fault teams for getting super high end prospects for good talent, but look at the recent trade packages for good players. The Santana return sucked then, and it sucks even more now. The Os did well in the Bedard trade, the As did really well in the Haren trade, the only teams that did well in the Cliff Lee trade(s) were the teams involved in the last one, Doc was traded for a hefty haul…but Drabek isn’t really playing all that well either, so the returns on trades like this isn’t really what you’d expect, except in the Haren trade. Billy Beane is just a different breed.

        Maybe if teams would go for a mix of low minors guys with lots of upside and high minors guys with high floors but maybe not the ceilings the results would be different. Jesus Montero was a Gary Sanchez type once upon a time, so it’s not like the low minors guys are worthless.

  • Bronx Byte

    John Danks is the better get. Colorado wants to hold Cashman hostage to have Jimenez. Out of the question.

    • Alfredo

      i would take ubaldo or danks i do not care which and if they do not get either i would not care either.

    • whozat

      The ChiSox just traded a starter. Why on earth would they trade another one, especially one who’s under control for a couple years yet?

      If you’re going to request someone who’s not on the market, why not go whole-hog and expect the King?

  • Phife Dawg

    I hate bringing page views for ESPNNY but Wally Matthews is fucking awful:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....id=6809814

    Hughes gave up 9 hits and 2 runs against a shitty lineup but WM is making Ivan Nova the sure to end all troubles.

    • Jim S

      Life advice: Never read WallyMatt. You’ll be happier, have more energy, do more charity work, get more women, and make more money.

  • Alfredo

    i think the yankees should save their prospects and money untill the 2013 free agent class that icludes weaver, danks, haren, cain, greinke, Kemp, and eithier. do you guys see the yankees making a play for Yu darvish?

    • FIPster Doofus

      I’d rather have CJ Wilson than Darvish.

      • mbonzo

        Yanks will be involved, but I doubt they’ll sign him. Cashman is not big on the whole bidding process for Japanese players. Yankees will also have 2 young pitchers coming up in Banuelos and Betances, they’re not gonna want to develop 3 guys in the MLB rotation at the same time. Too risky. Things can change, but if this team is what it predicts to be in 2013, Darvish might end up on the Red Sox depending on how burnt they feel from Matsuzaka.

        Also, I’d rather have Edwin Jackson for much cheaper.

  • Avi

    Cito goes BOOM TWICE in Staten Island.
    I hope crow doesn’t taste too bad.

    • Bruno

      Cito in July (not counting today): .333/.408/.433
      Bichette in July: .407/.520/.593

      Good month so far.

      • Alfredo

        I hope they keep this up through AA and AAA but they are shuting up the critics but this will not last long.

    • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

      Weren’t you one of the people who was always dumping on the Culver pick? (Unless you’re talking about yourself) Not that the low minors is a real reason to get SUPER excited.

      • Alfredo

        yes i still think culver was an overdraft and did not like him so thats why i think this will not last long same with our fisrt round pick this year.

        • mbonzo

          How many first round picks from the last 2 years are hitting as well as these guys? And they were regarded as some of the worst picks in both drafts. Yankees know how to scout better than the media.

      • Reggie C.

        I have no qualms in admitting that I readily dumped on the Culver pick. Lets see this kid handle the grind of a full season at Charleston. Its good he’s stuck with the SI squad and he’s hit well since KLAW destroyed him in his write-up.

        IIRC, i think i called him the “albert pujols of upstate ny” that draft day. heh.

        • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

          For the record, I don’t have an issue with dumping on the Culver pick if you can back it up. I do have an issue with Avi acting like oh, only other people did that, because he was one of the biggest dumpers on that pick.

          • Avi

            Yes Bex, I was talking about myself eating crow.
            Still hate both picks though.

  • Esteban

    Hey I’m finally gainfully employed. Only two years after I graduated. No more funemployment.

    • Pat D

      I’ll be unemployed at some point in the next year.

    • pat

      Congrats dude. No small feat in this day and age. Something you wanted or something to pay the bills?

    • Reggie C.

      Seriously man. Congrats. I hope you found something you’ll enjoy doing for a while. But hey, always keep an eye on better opportunities.

  • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

    Man Ban 5 IP 0 ER 5Ks 3 hits 1BB so far against Akron.

  • Alfredo

    Banuelos has been good in today game so far 5 IP, 5 SO, 1 BB, 3 H.

  • Kevin

    Sorry, giving up four or five quality prospects for what will be a third starter at best is a joke. Ubaldo will be another Pavano or Vasquez.

    • mbonzo

      Ubaldo is one of the 15 or so pitchers I’d consider an ace, and he’s 27, signed to a very team friendly contract. I don’t want to lose what it would take, I’m not for a trade right now, but give the guy some respect, he’s been unbelievable in a hitter friendly park.

    • Alfredo

      he will be better but i still do not think i would give up the prospects either.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Ubaldo will be another Pavano or Vasquez.

      I’ve seen this comment before and no one has ever bothered to provide any supporting evidence.

      • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

        just the yankees luck sometimes with trades and free agent signings.

        • mbonzo

          You know how many times people said CC and AJ would be the next Pavano because of how overworked CC was with the Brewers, and AJ’s injury history. Curtis Granderson was one of the worst Yankee trades last year because Austin Jackson had a higher batting average. Cashman has done pretty damn well the last few years.

          • Alfredo

            yeah but AJ still has done a terrible job for the yankees except for the 2009 season.

      • Pat D

        Because they were both relatively young and successful National League pitchers who sucked as soon as they became Yankees, so just like Ed Whitson before them, any other NL pitcher they import must perform in a similarly awful manner.

        Duh.

  • Alfredo

    the yankees pursuing Kuroda i do not like this move by the yankees i do not even want them considering it we need a #1 or 1a and kuroda is not it.

  • FIPster Doofus

    Cole Hamels better hit the market in 2013. I badly want him on the Yankees.

    • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

      Banuelos and Betances will be in the rotation by then, and Phil Hughes will have his velo back.

      • Alfredo

        we can always trade AJ for prospects or money depending how he has been doing from now to then but i alos love Cole Hamels.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          we can always trade AJ for prospects or money

          No, we can’t.

          • Pat D

            Yes, we can.

            The president told me so.

            Oh, crap…

      • FIPster Doofus

        Might be wishful thinking.

      • Reggie C.

        ehh … we’ll be lucky if one of those guys are in the rotation and pitching well. Hughes has got a ways to go before I’ll pencil him in a rotation beyond 2012. Manny and Betances have to find consistency in AA. Neither might see AAA before this year is out. Chances are one is in the rotation, one is traded, one is in the ‘pen.

  • Rey22

    I am very scared of what Alex Anthopoulos might be able to do with the Blue Jays a couple of years from now. (He’s already started)

    • FIPster Doofus

      Me too. He has done a phenomenal job so far.

    • mbonzo

      They’ll have about $30m coming off the payroll next year too. They’re gonna go big.

      • Alfredo

        yes and next year we really do not have to spend big we can just trade for a SP and keep that money for 2013.

        • mbonzo

          I don’t know about that, CC will get an extension and Yankees might resign Colon. With all the young pitchers coming up, one is bound to become a major part of the rotation. With Hughes/CC/AJ/Colon/Prospect for 2012, I don’t think we’re in a bad position. A guy like Edwin Jackson could solidify some real nice upside to the rotation without spending big and trading away pieces. Putting about $15m away for a starting pitcher in 2013, Yankees will be at $140m plus they’ll need a closer and an outfielder. Thats a good position to be in for the Yankees.

    • Reggie C.

      impossible to guess what Anthopoulos will do next. this man is a ninja.

    • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

      their SS/3B/CF was Alex Gonzalez/Edwin Encarnacion/Vernon Wells like a year ago. Now it’s Yunel Escobar/Jose Bautista/Colby Rasmus. I do think Rasmus is almost a little overrated now, but goddamn they robbed the Cardinals.

    • Jim S

      And it’s not like Toronto’s a small market team. They can handle a 90-100+ mil payroll. Rogers communications is a money printer.

  • Monteroisdinero

    We need Montero’s right handed bat these next 5 years as Arod begins to circle the drain.

    Nunez can’t do it all! lol

    • Alfredo

      with all thsi talk about Marlins Owner ship not being happy with Hanley Ramirez would you guys trade for Hanley and plug him in at 3B and have Arod DH?

      • pat

        If they play Jeter at SS until he’s 40, they wont have any problem playing Arod at a less demanding position for just as long. I know he’s had some surgeries and whatnot, but I really don’t see Arod moving off 3B before his contract is up.

  • Alfredo

    ManBan line for the day: 6.1 IP, 5H, 3BB, 5SO, 1 earned run.

  • mbonzo

    I know this will ruin some peoples chances, but The Yankees Analysts are giving tickets away with Mastercard this weekend. Leave a comment and email and you’re in the drawing.

    http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/.....kend-32544

  • Michael Mirabella

    Hey mike, what do you think about Ubaldo, do you think the Yankees should get him and will it help greatly?

  • Kramerica Industries

    This is probably just a little Yankee homerism bias at play here, but I am almost convinced that the Red Sox, at least offensively, have to be peaking right about now.

    This is friggen insanity. They are literally good for 10+ runs on a nightly basis. Ellsbury’s OPS is now at .909, and showing no signs of dipping.

    Holy hell. I would hope it would eventually dip, but that 62-28 since the 2-10 start tells me otherwise.

    • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

      It feels like they should be like 15 games up. They’re three games up. Kinda like the Yankees are pretty good too. And I have no idea where this Ellsbury came from, and where is the dumb steroid speculation like Bautista has to deal with?

      • Jim S

        It’ll come, I don’t think everyone’s aware of his HR binge yet. I pay as close attention to the day-to-day MLB world as anyone, and even I still do a double take every time I see 16…

    • Jim S

      Look at the teams they’ve played the past 2 weeks. The Mariners, Orioles, and Royals.

      Anywho, they have a good team, it’s not surprising that they’re in 1st place. But the playoffs are a crapshoot, and their rotation is in no better shape than ours is. God knows when Buchholz is coming back, Lackey is awful, Beckett and Lester are good, but CC and Colon have basically been their equals.

      • Kramerica Industries

        I didn’t really say a thing about what can and possibly will happen come October.

        And the Red Sox 62-28 record since mid-April has also come against quality teams as well – the Yankees, to name one team.

        In any case, my comment was not in the “Red Sox rock, Yankees suck” or in the sardonic “Red Sox rock, Yankees suck” vein. It was a comment in the admiration of how fricken good they look at the plate right now. That is all.

        As a sidenote: You mention Seattle – they faced Felix and Pineda and pounded both. How can anyone not be impressed by that?

        • Kevin

          I will say that while Felix beat us today, in the previous battle against him and Pineda, we had driven them both out of the game.
          Nova and AJ both couldn’t handle 4-0 leads and ended up losing the games for us.

  • J-Rod

    Face it. None of Montero, Banuelos, and Betances are guarenteed to succeed in the majors. But, Jimenez has shown he can and will. Plus, the guys 27 years old with a team friendly contract. Why not? I’m not trading all of them but it wouldn’t hurt to trade 1. The yankees need another potential ace to win the series this year and next. With CC being the big stoppa that’s ok. But, with Hughes being horrible and AJ being ok, it’s still not good enough. Colon and Garcia can’t put up the same numbers they did in the first half. The bullpen is great and the offense is great. But will the yankees be able to fare against the Red Sox in the playoffs? With their pitching and the Red Sox’s batting, I just don’t know.

  • Rainbow Connection

    Some friends are visiting in August. Does anyone (or probably everyone but me) know if the bleacher seats grant you access to the rest of the stadium (food, drinks, museum, concourse, etc)?
    It seems like I’ve heard ‘yes’ to this, but want to make sure.
    The old Stadium was closed off, right?
    I just checked out RAB Tickets. It’s amazing. Easy and clear. Awesome work.

    • Mike

      You can access all of the concourses, museum, monument park, etc. with any ticket. All of the concourses arer open so you can stand and watch the game. Hope you and your guests have a good time,

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      It was closed off in the Old Stadium, but you can get to anywhere from the bleachers in the new place.

      • Rainbow Connection

        Excellent. Thanks, guys. It’ll be a day game, so I plan on having us stand in the concourse and watch, rather than sitting in August heat and sun at 1pm.