Aug
25
Open Thread: Blowout
By Joe PawlikowskiSorry for the late OT. It’s been a long day. So have at it. We’ll have the recap up later.
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Say what you will, but I believe in change. Montero for president.
He should run for mayor of NYC or become the Bronx boro president when he finally arrives.
This was one of the best games played in a while. The early deficit wasn’t exactly ideal, but outscoring Oakland 21-1 after that was excellent.
BTW, I think all Yankee fans who worry about the Red Sox should go become Sox fans. Clearly worry about them more than your “favorite” team.
“This was one of the best games played in a while. The early deficit wasn’t exactly ideal, but outscoring Oakland 21-1 after that was excellent.”
I think that statement sums up this comment section perfectly. It’s arguably better than something like: God, I hate Martin. When are they going to DFA the guy? Wait, WOW! great HR by Russell, he is definitively turning it around! A keeper!, because that one is just obnoxious.
I’d like to have at some of my customers today. Bunch of whiners.
Funny that the LLWS can get calls right in virtually no time via replay but the big boy umps in the ML still take 7-10 business minutes and still F’ the money up.
hughes sucked
He wasn’t as bad as his final line read. No walks and 5ks wasn’t bad but the results were awful, yes. The 7 hits in 2.2 IP were not so good. His ERA went from 5.6ish to 6.45, anytime a mid 5s ERA goes up, your analyst is more correct than mine. Wade didn’t do Phil any favors, promptly surrendering a 3 run jack on pitch number one. The three grandslams had me forgetting all about Hughes though.
I give Hughes a pass. He sucks against Oakland, that’s fine he won’t see them again until next year. It’s also like Nova sucking against Kansas City, no biggie. Plus, today is one of those days to pitch a clunker when the offense scores 22 runs.
Hughes loses 1-9: He sucks
Hughes wins 22-9: Hey, that kid’s got potential!
/Kay’d
History!
What a game! I almost shut it off when it was 7-1 but instead I just turned the volume down and started to read…then it was the book that got turned down in the 5th. Nice comeback/bounceback game! Momentum is a wonderful thing…lookout O’s, we comin’ for ya! The only thing that can save them now is Irene.
I didn’t turn it off entirely, but I did decide to take what was supposed to be an evening jog and make it an afternoon one since I was home. I arrived back just in time for Martin’s grandslam.
Oop… I almost forgot. I won’t be able to make it, fellas. Veronica and I trying this new fad called uh, “jogging”. I believe it’s “jogging” or “yogging”, it might be a soft “j”. I’m not sure, but apparently, you just run for an extended period of time. It’s supposed to be wild.
Apparently now I will need to take a jog, or a yog, during every game, because baseball people believe in these things. Wearing the same baseball cap, eating the same food, putting on the same golden thong…
That chick has really crawled into your skull…
What’s wrong with Texas?
They’re letting Boston walk all over them.
They actually suck.
Ryan said his pitchers are tiring noticeably. I guess pitch counts serve some purpose, eh?
That and I was totally wrong the other night about what I said about Adrian regressing to the mean and not being as good as Cabrera or Pujols.
They’re not as tough as people are making them out to be? Even the aging Yankees, with all of their question marks in the starting rotation and elsewhere, won 7 of 9 against them.
I wish we didn’t have the same problem.
Andrew Miller is pitching for Boston. I’ll go out on a limb and say they’ll score a few times.
that limb snapped
ughh
Montero is getting in on the Yankees’ home run derby!
Hit is off the top of the scoreboard.
Drop Hughes from the rotation. After 70 pitches and less than 3 innings he lost his velocity. I guess he’s due for another mystery “dead” shoulder period. Better yet, send him down for a start at AAA before their season ends — and see if he can keep is mph up for 100 pitches or so.
That’s a plan…or not.
I think this is a bit overreactive.
I could be wrong though, I haven’t looked at velocity info.
It’s Dave Island. Never mind.
It’s crystal ball time again.
72.2
34.0
86.0
176.1
51.2
I’m not one to give up on veterans (which is territory Phil is closing in on) so I’ll give him one more year because of how he was abused last year. But if he flops again next year, he’s a reliever.
I don’t see you on my payroll.
Love,
Brian Cashman
Dave has a point and the people that are yelling at him also have a point. Hughes has struggled with injuries his whole career, he’s had issues with velocity variance since he came up to the bigs in 2007. This is already his 5th year in the majors, so it’s not like he’s some spring chicken any more. He pretty much just had the good first half of 2010 as a starter, and after that he was pretty crappy in the second half and during the playoffs.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s not all Phil’s fault. His injuries tend to be more of the “shit happens” or “your team misused you” variety. He was allowed to throw 180 innings while barely cracking 100 the year before and not even touching 80 the year before that. So he never got the chance to develop his stamina as a starter before being thrown to the wolves in 2010. So I’m willing to give him some more time. Besides, it’s not like the Yankees can do a whole lot better.
how far was andruw jones homerun tonight?
Phil Hughes’ FIP for his “great” performance against the Twins: 5.36
Phil Hughes’ FIP today: -0.74
Montero with a second homer. This time to left field.
wow, i can’t believe they ended up scoring 23.. I was out playing kick ball with my buddies kid and his Cousin’s kids, and we had the game on the Raido in one of the cars, but at 11-7, we kinda didn’t get back to it, and i get home and check the final score and its 23-9..lol I coulden’t believe it! Pretty amazing! The yanks pitching is very suspect though, if there is something to not be happy about..
I wouldn’t say very suspect, I mean they have their weak spots, but who doesn’t in the American League?
The Yanks magic number is Jose Molina. Can smell that playoff berth now.
The Yanks magic number is Jose Molina.
I hope the countdown makes its glorious appearance no later than September 1st.
What’s the magic number to call up Jesus Montero?
September 1st. Just six days now.
That means he’ll be up when the Yanks are in Fenway.
In terms of games 7 (some of them may or may not be played)
In terms of days. 6
Wouldn’t be shocked if they let him finish out the year at Scranton before the call up. It’s only a few games. Then again, I wouldn’t be shocked if they called him up tomorrow.
I’m guess I’m just not easily shocked. Urban Shocked? Urban Shocker? It’s all beginning to make sense to me now.
Silkk the Shocker?
Any word on Cano? He seemed to hurt his hand, struck out, and then Frisky Cervisky hit for him next time up.
Well, didn’t Cano hit a Grand Slam later in the at bat?
Also, it was 16-8 at the time, the game was pretty much decided.
I think that was his previous at bat. What I saw made me worry about that damn hamate bone.
Where’s this night’s DOTF? Montero homers on the multiple and we have nothing? Game sloppy, fellas. Let’s get it together here.
It’s only out of love that I say this.
Maybe they’re doing it right now, be patient.
Yup its on its way, just waiting for Trenton to finish up.
I’ve never understood the dislike for Airplane 2. Sure it’s not as good as the first, but it’s great in its own little way. Plus, Shatner.
And I’ve always like this line:
Controller #3: Get me Steve McCroskey!
Controller #2: Are you kidding? Ever since Reagan fired the air traffic controllers, he’s been completely senile!
Controller #3: Yeah, but what about McCroskey?
Controller #2: About the same as Reagan.
I guess irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.
*sees the Enterprise in the ‘scope*
Buck Murdock: We’d better get to the tower, Lieutenant.
Lt. Pervis: We have no tower, sir.
Buck Murdock: No tower?
Lt. Pervis: Just a bridge, sir.
Buck Murdock: WHY THE HELL AREN’T I NOTIFIED ABOUT THESE THINGS!
Tell me everything that’s happened up till now.
Well, first the Earth cooled. Then the dinosaurs came.
But they got too big and fat, and they died and turned into oil.
Then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes… Then Prince Charles started wearing all of Lady Di’s clothes, I couldn’t believe it…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjBdFPyxuak (safe)
Ha I didn’t even find out about the Grandyslam till now as I had to quit following the game because of work and then I went out to dinner after. Yay for history! I can’t wait to see the wpa graph on this game.
http://www.fangraphs.com/lgrap....._lbig_.png
The Martin slam (and the subsequent runs scored on all those walks and stuff) rendered Granderson’s slam as not even perceptible on the graph.
Crazy, yo.
That is ridiculous and awesome.
So Jim Thome is going home again. Good for him, and good luck to the Indians. Beat those Tigers!
If the Yankees win the Wild Card (which ehhh…lets be honest that’s what most of us thought would happen in April anyways) I wish for the Tigers to win the ALC. If the Yankees can take the ALE crown I then hope the White Sox pull it out.
Did anyone see that Marte gave up 6 runs in 2/3 innings pitched in a GCL game, ouch! Feliciano pitched a 1-2-3 inning in his appearance.
Terrible outing. I’ll just be happy to have one of them back.
Me too, but I’m not counting on them at all. But it’s very encouraging to see them pitch. Marte gets a pass, he had a major shoulder injury.
It feels like ten years since Damaso Marte last pitched. I swear.
I don’t feel like going back and reading, but can someone let me know if all the fatalist posters here got sufficiently blasted during the comeback?
So…what happened with Hughes? Two XBHs in 2.2 IP is pretty bad, but five Ks, zero walks and no HRs in 2.2 IP should give you less than six RA.
Wade let two of the runners that reached against Hughes in on a home run. One of the XBH’s that Hughes gave up, a triple from DeJesus, wasn’t that bad of a pitch. It was a curveball that had a lot of movement. Other than that he just gave up a bunch of hits and that was that.
4 RA in 2.2 IP is still pretty fucking bad. He threw 96 pitches too so it’s not like he could have came back out for the third anyway.
Yeah, he was both not as bad as the line looked (bad hit luck) but also quite a bit worse than just excusing his hit luck (inefficient, few swinging strikes). So all in all, he wasn’t as bad as his line but would have been worse than his line adjusted for luck.
Yeah, that’s what I suspected. I just caught the last few innings (pretty much Martin’s granny and afterwards) but saw that he got his shit pushed in. Hughes has still gotta find a way to start picking up swinging strikes or keep the ball down…preferably both.
The worst part is, he’s moving the ball in, out and down so its not just a plane issue. Either his stuff moves too early or he’s just too easy to pick up or something because there’s really no good reason for suck a terrible swing and miss rate. (245th out of the 250 pitchers over 50 innings this year. That’s horrific.)
“Such”. Freudian.
There were a couple of softer hits against him, he couldn’t put Matsui away which really killed him, although he allowed just a sac fly. I’ll give him a pass, he sucks against Oakland this year like Nova sucks against KC. I’ll be interested in seeing how Hughes handles his start in Boston.
What an insane game, it had a massive range of emotions.
I actually hope that the last game of this Orioles series is rained out so that the Yankees can get an off day before the Boston series.
Josh Beckett would be pissed if the Yankees get a day off that the Red Sox don’t get.
And then CC would pitch in Boston. Sure he’s sucked against them this year, but he’s gotta come out of it right?
Actually what would be great?
Yanks lose every remaining game to Sox in regular season & finish 2-16.
They somehow make it to LCS to face the Sox & lose the first 3 games….
and then win the next 4
Or…the Yankees take the division and the Rangers sweep the Red Sox. That would be a lot easier on the old ticker.
I like Cuso’s idea better. That would be incredible.
i mean, yeah.
of course i’d prefer the blood pressure friendly route.
But the hard way would make it pretty damn sweet. and it would really piss off ESPN too (added bonus).
Hate to say it but the Yankees are most likely gonna fall short this year because of starting pitching.
Only 34 games to go and it’s a bunch of question marks behind CC.
yeah. kinda what they expected coming into the season, ironically enough.
hoping that Nova can use this next month to become bona fide #2 material.
Hope: Simultaneously Man’s greatest strength and greatest weakness
/matrix’d
Far from an original thought, I don’t believe anyone when they say that they’re confident in the Yankees going into October. Phil Hughes, Ivan Nova, Bartolo Colon, and Freddy Garcia….any of those guys behind CC make you feel good? Prior to the season everyone was yelling at me to calm down because Colon and Garcia wouldn’t be on the playoff roster and that Cashman will go out and find a competent two starter…yeah, well, funny thing: that never happened. Don’t get me wrong, they can still win in the playoffs…but it’s not like they’re favorites or anything. Nor is it like there’s a guy that makes you feel confident if they go down 0-1.
Hughes didn’t really pitch that bad, it seemed like he got ahead, then 2 strikes, and then just couldn’t finish them off. He had good stuff tonight though. And for the person who said his deadarm is back, he basically through 30 pitches per inning, you lose velocity quickly like that. If he had 15 pitches per inning, he’d be getting to 92 93 consistently.
he had no problem finishing off. He had 5 strikeouts. He was destroyed by babip. The A’s had a .857 babip against him.
lol. why does everyone hate espn again? During the sportscenter highlights today, they called the Granderslam as “of all the dramatic things i’ve ever seen, Oh my goodness gracious”, and when they showed jorge’s throw they said he was “channeling his inner knoblauch”. I’m not sure which anchor it was though.