Game 143: Swishaliciousless
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After spending half of Thursday’s game flexing his left arm/hand, Nick Swisher is out of tonight’s lineup with a sore elbow and it could be a couple of days before he returns. He said his elbow has been bugging him for a while, but yesterday he felt a sharp pain after making a throw. He hopes to get it checked out by a doctor today. At this point of the season, there’s no reason for the Yankees to push it with anyone if they feel anything more than normal soreness; they should be focused on surviving the regular season and going into the postseason at full strength. Here’s the starting nine…
Derek Jeter, SS
Curtis Granderson, CF
Mark Teixeira, 1B
Alex Rodriguez, 3B
Robinson Cano, 2B
Andruw Jones, RF
Jesus Montero, DH – first start against a righty
Russell Martin, C
Brett Gardner, LF
Bartolo Colon, SP
It’s a 10:05pm ET start, and the game can be seen on YES. Enjoy.
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Wow, six former all-stars batting in front of Jesus.
First! Also Can’t wait to see what Montero does tonight! Probably 1-4 with a 2 RBI double.
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see # 9
oh fuck, Kay made a west coast trip. was really looking forward to a Singleton/Cone booth.
I’m just glad Flaherty didn’t take the trip with him.
Sigh…will we ever see the optimal line up this year? Andruw’s okay, but he’s no Nick Swisher.
Damn Marllins Pirates game running a little late and going to cause the Extra Innings Yankee broadcast to miss the first inning
Damn, I was looking forward to a couple series without Kay. He never flies out west. At least we have Leiter.
California……knows how to party
California……knows how to party
In the citaaay of LA
In the citaaay of good ol’ Watts
In the citaaay of Compton
We keep it rockin’, we keep it rockin’
(The Yankees need some California Love)
think they can all use some californication
Yankees are gonna hammer Weaver.
good god those uniforms are atrocious.
Do you remember the mid to late 90s unis?
Yea, they changed logos so many times until they finally settled on the right combination of color and logo around the late 70′s-early 80′s.
But then when Disney bought the team, they went all to shit.
Another srikeout for KKKKKurtis Granderson. What a shock! MVP my ass.
Because MVP players don’t strike out and lets ignore all he’s done on the season based on a slump…GTFO
Pretty sure he’s joking.
It’s getting hard to tell sometimes.
It’s mocking a commenter on a past thread.
Because the strikeouts clearly outweigh the rest of his offensive contributions, right? Right.
In order to be a true MVP candidate he’d need to take half of his strikeouts and turn them into HRs.
I know. I’m just making fun of some commenter a few days ago that was saying the same thing. Should’ve done the / thing. My bad.
OK, good. I figured you weren’t like that since you’ve been here as long as I remember.
got it
Then i apologize
No worries mate.
Oh, sorry about that.
Are you trying to fill someone else’s shoes?
Or did you just make a big boo-boo?
I thought we all agreed throwing all those K’s in front of an African American player is borderline racist, and so, we’re all better than that.
MY EARS KAY!
A-Rod’s still got it.
Whoa a break in the space time field.
you suck Bobby
After all the rain, I’m sure the Yankees are enjoying this:
Oh god, did anyone else just get a static attack of death in the audio?
Yes, it scared the crap out of me.
I swear I;ve seen more of those down the line doubles recently.
Kay: “Bobby Abreu has really been struggling.” (hits double)
Business as usual for Michael Kay.
Business as usual for Bobby too. He loves hitting against the Yanks this year.
Seriously. He’s been “that guy who has annoyingly good at bats and timely base hits” against the Yankees in pretty much every series they’ve played against the Angels this year.
Apparently, Bobby Abreu walking is ironic. Who knew?
That ump is gonna drive me crazy with those late strike calls.
You and Michael Kay.
He’s no Tim McClelland.
Most overrated player, Torii Hunter or Jimmy Rollins?
Ehhh..J-Roll I’d say.
Neither are most overrated.
Of these two, I’ll pick Rollins.
Vernon Wells sucks. Not because he struck out, but because he sucks.
Fuck’s sake I’m off my game tonight. I blame the recession.
Hunter. He’s overrated on offense and defense. At least Rollins is legit with the glove (or was in his prime).
I was going to say that Rollins is only 4.8 dWAR for his career, but then I saw Hunter’s number for the same.
At least Hunter has an OPS+ better than 100.
Hunter’s got the 9 gold gloves, but Rollins has that MVP. It’s a tough one.
9 gold gloves and a career 0.1 UZR/150, thats pretty damn overrated.
At least Rollins had a 6.9 fWAR in his MVP year.
Jimmy Rollins: 1 MVP award
Derek Jeter: 0 MVP awards
Jimmy Rollins >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Derek Jeter
Reggie Jackson in the booth with the Angels TV team
Really Leiter…..Best defensive outfield.
did he say Yankees best Defensive OF or that it was the best defensive OF in all of Baseball?
He was talking about the Angels having the best defensive outfield.
oh, really Leiter?
Angels OF has best team DRS in MLB, but 7th in UZR, FWIW
Reggie: Robbie could hit .340 with some “babip love” (I’m paraphrasing)
Weaver’s got his array of pitches working.
Cano just struck out. MVP my ass.
Now yer talkin!!! And he’s lazy.
what happened to 6 ERA in last few starts Weaver? I liked him better
ian kennedy straight up for curtis granderson
would you make that trade?
You’re joking right?
If I could take Justin Upton with it and add Ivan Nova then yes.
Shit. Weaver looking awful filthy tonight. He’s putting the ball anywhere he wants.
Reminds me of Sarah Michelle Gellar line in Cruel Intentions: “You can put it anywhere you want.”
/Knees knocking.
Swisher’s elbow? Scary.
I sure do hope Swisher is okay.. I would hate to lose him going into the post season.
Also High Probability Betances gets into a game? I likey!
Betances to the 8th
woops, meant 7th. obviously I don’t want DRob moved.
Hypothetical situation. If the Yanks lost Swisher and the Sox lost Youk, who got the short straw?
Sox by far. Youks grit factor can’t be replicated.
I’d kinda like to see Dellin start over AJ in seattle. Of course they’re never gonna do that…
If you’re going to give him a start against anyone, that may be the team.
The Rays are within 5.5 games of the Red Sox, who could be looking at a very desperate starting pitcher rotation. I think its time for them to get worried, especially with so many head-to-head games. It’d be crazy if the “best team in baseball” ends up not making the playoffs.
Don’t tease me like that!
That would make my year.
Sox are still about 96% to make the playoffs. It won’t get interesting unless Tampa gets to within 2-3 games back.
If they sweep the Red Sox this weekend, they are 3 games out of the lose column.
yeah, I think that’s the only way it gets interesting the rest of the way. The Rays really need to sweep.
Wow, my first Jesus Major League AB. (Missed the last week or so)
Holy Jesus!
Shit just got real
Wow just amazing…..
JESUS MONTERO !
CRUSHED!
JESUS!
Jesus! HOLY SHIT!!!1
Sweet Jesus!!!!
SWEET BABY JESUS!!!!
Of all the calls I’ve heard, I think I like this the best!!
RISEN!!
Anyone else see that coming?
Montero owns Weaver!
Play this kid every day. Every damn day.
Jesus has risen!!!
Jesus!
I’m guessing that at bat’ll get some reaction from this board
Fuck yes! He’s a monster.
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I’m beginning to get used to this. Sweet baby Jesus.
Lavarnway light strikes again!!
Love this.
Play me everyday
Signed
Jesus
Just don’t eclipse the max number of PAs to qualify for ROY, next year. Or just play em everyday and let him win this year.
Power to all fields
Impressive!
Anyone else watching the Anaheim feed? They showed the field view and Aybar didn’t even flinch his shoulders, just dropped his head a little.
MVP candidate Granderson – strikeout
All Star Cano – strikeout
Jesus Montero – homerun – impressive.
can you imagine if this kid broke camp as the everyday DH? Yanks fucked up stashing him in AAA again.
IDK, They have said he made great progress on Defense this year in AAA.
That and the fact that the team is in first. I don’t disagree that it would have been nice if he was up earlier, but to say they fucked up is a bit extreme.
Jesus Montero……righty killer?
Girardi’s head is exploding, how the hell did a righty batter just hit a righty pitcher?
Joe should consult the binder, see Jesus is mashing righties.
Pretty sure thats filed under “PANIC!”
Wow. This ump has a big strike zone.
It’s going to be a really fun decade or two. What a bomb.
You gotta be fucking kidding me. Jesus goes deep again????? And off Weaver?
And some of yall wanted to trade him.
For Cliff Lee, at the time, yea.
Now? There’s only a select group of guys I’d even consider trading him for, and none of them are available.
Lee, Felix, Halladay, Kershaw, Price, Shields, Verlander, etc? Not that it really matters…
I think now that we’ve seen him….he stays in the Bronx. We’ll find pitching elsewhere. We’re sitting on “the next one” right now.
Yup.
I feel so good now.
I heart jesus
was anyone listing to WCBS? did Sterling come up with a better call?
Well between the first home run and the next he went from simply “Jesus is loose” to “Jesus turned it loose” which is a slight improvement at least
I don’t know guys… I’m trying to temper my enthusiasm but unless he gets out of that crouch Montero will never be able to pull a fastball above 90 mph
/lohud’ed
he’s just baiting pitchers.
All torque….all action
Is there somewhere we can promote Jesus to if he starts to get bored in the big leagues?
He kinda looks bored already, has a “been there done that” attitude, although he did get pumped after that HR. It is off Weaver, pretty exciting for the kid.
He can ascend to heaven to play with the legends if he wants.
I can see him in a Cornfield in Iowa.
September AL Player of the Month Jesus Montero goes deep again.
I really was hoping Granderson could keep his batting average around .280 or so. I feel like the voters will hold his batting average against him.
No homers since Aug. 28, average declining. His chances are getting slimmer and slimmer at the moment. He’ll need to go on quite a tear before the season ends to stay in the race.
He’s in a bit of a slump. Has been for a couple of weeks really. But he’s gotten a timely hit for us here and there during that time, and drawn some walks.
It’s really time for A-Rod and Tex to step it up consistently. Grandy and Cano have been pretty much carrying the offense all year, Tex’ stats be damned.
Jesus with 3 HR’s off fb’s.
Next-a curve ball.
The best #8 hitter we got.
Jesus Montero is 7 for his last 8 with 3 homeruns
Montero is the only Yankee with a hit the last nine innings.
They better keep Jesus in there as much as possible.
A Montero smash is worth like 30 good posts in one minute!
Anyone been to the shops around the stadium lately and see if they’re selling montero shirts yet? Can’t find any online yet
on that note, will there be an update to the RAB Jesus is Coming design, perhaps Jesus has Risen instead?
#63 will be a collector’s item. Will not be the # of the future.
Anyone else think that playing 3B has screwed up Youkilis this year? I also think he needs to move to DH if he can’t play 1B anymore.
Youk to DH, Ortiz to 1B, Gonzo to RF.
If he does, it’ll be goodbye to Ortiz. And that’d be a significant blow to Boston’s offense. Ortiz has been one of the top hitters in the league this year.
Add to this. Lackey supposedly with a bruised calf today….
Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch.
“The ball hit me [mouth breath] really hard [mouth breath] in the fucking calf [mouth breath].”
I honestly LaughedOutLoud on that one.
Jeff Mathis….the .178 hitter AJ Burnett couldn’t get out…..smh.
When you look up “black hole” in the dictionary, it has a picture of Jeff Mathis next to the definition.
But he knows how to call a game, and that’s why Napoli was expendable!
at least they got a good return for Napoli. oh wait.
Don’t get us started.
Can I interrupt this Homage to Jesus by pointing out Colon is kinda kicking ass so far?
the return of pre-DL Bart?
He does look pretty damn good so far…
#knockonwood
You must NEVER interrupt a Jesus praising session!
The bat speed and waist torque of Montero is so impressive. Reminds me of some pretty impressive players of the past.
FUCK I MISSED ANOTHER JESUS HOME RUN?!?
A display of his pull power.
“Don’t try to sneak a 2 strike inside fb on me”
And it was off of JERED FUCKING WEAVER too.
join the club, just caught my first.
Plenty more of where that came from… and if not, you will be labeled the Montero jinx
We thought Girardi loved Cervelli too much, how about Scocia and Mathis. I don’t care how great the defense is, that line is unacceptable from an everyday player. Cervelli looks like Babe Ruth compared to him. Unreal.
Career OPS+ of 50.
With a sub-.200 batting average.
Here’s to Jesus Montero trending for the next decade or so.
But I thought pitching was all about velocity?
/ListeningtotoomuchPhilHughesanalysis’d
Pitching is all about velocity when you can’t locate and you can’t throw offspeed for strikes behind in the count and you used to throw 96.
Pitching is about location and movement. I said what I said in relation to looking at Jared Weaver be a top 5 AL pitcher throwing 90 mph.
Hughes velocity isn’t a concern, his location is. Daniel Bard throws 100 and gets hit.
Since 1919, Jesus Montero is 30th player to have a multi-homer game within his first 4 @MLB games.
http://twitter.com/#!/Yankees/.....8194847744
Jesus fucking Montero.
Alex went, so the Robot Umps can be held off for at least one more day.
calling it right now…6th inning, Yanks tag weaver with a serious crooked number
2s are super crooked. Heads right, bangs a quick left, then whoa, sharp right!
haha!
God damnit Kendrick…
That was hot.
Auto-tune commercial is the first time I’ve watched Buck and McCarver and not felt loathing.
I know only one time McCarver was tolerable in a game. Buy or rent game 3 of the 2003 ALCS. McCarver then is Einstein compared to what he is today. Like for one day God blessed him with intelligence.
That WB Mason commercial is fucking awful.
“It’s NEVA NEVA NEVA just as good.” Hate it.
And kinda racist….
Yep.
Kinda?
The Sassy black woman has been played to death. I don’t know how that woman sleeps at night after agreeing to further that stereotype.
Probably in a soon to be gentrified neighborhood after a dinner of fried southern favorites and several incidents that caused her to shout “oh no you didn’t”.
With a midnight snack of watermelon slices and grape soda at her night table, you know, just in case.
The kinda was meant in a sarcastic tone.
The LOUD sassy black woman has been overdone.
First time I saw this commercial, I thought “WTF?”
O yeah I knew what you meant.
This was the first thing I thought when I saw the commercial. But then I thought I was just being oversensitive.
Bobby “I will raise the pitch count” Abreu is so annoying.
Ruth, Mantle, Gehrig, and someday Montero. My guess is Montero eventually surpasses all 3 including Ruth as most home runs hit by a Yankee.
A bit lofty, no?
wow the kid looks legit but that is a crazy ass statement 6 games into a big league career…
Holy Shit. Really?
Even I say it is way too early but let us not rule it out from the realm of possibility.
So much upside.
Simmer down, dwarf.
+1
Double or nothing on a Maas bet?
that was lame Reggie, very lame
He did that on purpose. He’s a Yankee for life. Screw the Angels.
Reggie-that was sad. Kim Jones might now have a better arm.
Bart with the strong hamstring!
#knockonwood
Way to go, Bart.
Jesus ABs = must see tv at this point
the trend suggests that when Jesus hits a HR off a pitcher, he hits another one in his next AB against that same pitcher. I expect #4.
I see what you did there….
I hope Montero didn’t watch his homerun for too long. Weaver might get mad this at bat.
I’ll take a baserunner.
Dear Red Sox:
Please pay attention to that rapidly approaching object in your rear view mirror……
Jesus is gonna see nothing but changeups & curves now.
/he will be ready
Is Bart auditioning for 2012 in Anaheim.
Andruw with the walk decreases the chance of jesus getting plunked.
Damn. Right at Hunter.
Bad luck.
Smashed the changeup to RIGHT FIELD.
at least he hit it hard. Jesus has been having some great ABs, super impressed. doesn’t look like a kid with 20 MLB ABs.
Would that have been a hr in yankee stadium? Too low right?
If there is another WC, that team should play a one game playoff against the division winner with the worst record, regardless of what division they’re in. This way we don’t have a scenario where a team like the 2001 A’s have to risk their 103 win season (or whatever it was) against a clearly inferior team, and they cold still add the “excitement” of another WC race.
wouldn’t the one game playoff be between the 2 wildcard teams, with all division winners avoiding that
yea, I meant the team with the worst record, regardless of weather or not they’re a WC or division team.
very few hitters in baseball will hit a changeup HARD to the opposite field.
That’s what Leiter should be impressed about.
If you have a choice of allowing Montero to become whatever he’s capabale of or guaranteeing him an Andruw Jones type career, which would you prefer?
Andruw Jones career and its not even a hard decision.
After seeing the wonderful successful rate of top 10 hitting prospects I let him go on his own path.
Wait fuck if we include defense then Jones by far. If it’s bat only then Jesus.
Andruw Jones and it’s not even remotely close.
interesting question. somehow, I am indifferent between the 2 options.
Jones is a HOF-er – if you could guarantee that Montero has a similar career in terms of value/production, instead of gambling that he could potentially be an elite HOF-er (with the potential of being a bust) it really is not a tough decision.
I understand your POV. I’m not sure Jones is a HOFer. Longevity is a question there. I don’t believe I am gambling anything. I think Montero’s production from the C position may be ridiculously elite for the next 8-10 years, followed by a great career at 1B/DH.
It is absolutely a gamble… there is the chance of that Jesus isnt as good as predicted, plays so poorly behind the plate he is moved early thereby lowering his value, a freak injury, loss of desire, or anything else that could possibly ruin his career.
You compare that risk with the GUARANTEE of even a borderline HOF career (at the very least Jones is borderline), you take the guarantee with ANY prospect, regardless of who it is… even the all time great prospects such as an ARod or Jeter (looking at them at the time comparable to where Montero is now).
While Jesus’ ceiling is possibly higher than Jones career the risk is simply too great to gamble.
So, I think you’re saying it was a rhetorical question and you could substitute Jesus for any other prospect in baseball (Trout, Harper, etc.) I understand your POV.
Andruw’s hit 400 career homers. I’m not sure how you could expect more.
I hear you. But the guy has not hit 30 HR’s since his 20′s.
Welcome to the post-steroids era…
Indeed
Andruw is probably going to make the Hall of Fame…I’ll take that from Montero.
Sorry I know this is the game thread and my question isn’t game related.
Im from rhode island But I’m attending Yankee stadium at the end of the month. It’s a Sunday and I plan on afterwards going to a sports bar to watch some football. Can you please recommend some great places? I don’t mind traveling into the city and what not if it’s worth it. Thanks
If you don’t mind traveling, why not the Meadowlands?
This is exactly what I feared with Gardner. Way too inconsistent.
You’re back to being May Greg? You have a shorter attention-span than my dog.
I said if he got back in the low .260s that I would start to complain again.
You realize he has the third highest fWAR on the team behind Granderson and CC?
Lay off hi…squirrel?
Give some credit to Weaver-no one else other than Montero has done anything impressive. Gardy needs to bunt/slash against the best pitchers.
But this has been going on for about a month.
God forbid any player should struggle for a month. I mean, Jeter has been hitting .300 all year.
see my reply below. He’s posted great numbers over the last week
He’s never going to be THAT good of a hitter. You hope he can keep his AVG somewhere close to .280 with his speed. But his real value lies with his BB% and defense, which have been pretty consistent.
Gardner last 7 days: 1.068 OPS, .512 wOBA, 229 wRC+
yeah, can’t imagine why he can’t consistently keep that going against one of the best pitchers in the league
That Gardner. He stinks at baseball.
He’s constantly going through hot and cold spells. Someone that fast should not be going through extended slumps
Montero wears white nail polish on right hand even when not a starting catcher just to remind Joe G.
Was he really?
I don’t know if I’m missing a joke or something, but that would be pretty funny if true.
I noticed that when they were at the stadium I thought wait a minute.
Borjous running in slow mo is faster than Jorge Posada in real time.
I wish Gardy would lay down a bunt. I worry he’s taking too much BP with Tex.
HEARD THIS. Amazing display of pitching to the score in the NYY-LAA game.
1:18 mins since start of the game. Bottom of the 5th.
Had this been a Yank-Sox game, this would’ve been in the bottom of the 2nd inning at this time lapse.
what the fuck Jeter?
Ugh, Jeets…killing me man.
Come on Jeter…
Ugh, Nunezian. Now Bartolo has to get 4 outs this inning.
Wow Derek-the arthritis must be tough to deal with.
Nice job by Tex staying with the play.
What is with this team defensively lately? I know it was the C team the other day but Jeter’s throws have been really off.
Jeter has been hanging out with Nunez too much
Ok, we have to credit Mathis there, he did the “good” kind of slide into 1B.
Jeter…..really?
Is Bart our #2 Starter in October?
I’m still going with Freddy
It’s definitely down to either Freddy or Nova.
Colon even with his shitty recent outings still has a better FIP, xFIP, tERA and SIERA than both of them.
I eat my words. But I wouldn’t have a problem with any of the three being our playoff #2.
Nova I’m fine with even though he has the same strikeout rate he has a 50 percent GB rate compared to Garcia’s 35 percent. I mean it’s not the bets decision IMO but it’s not the end of the world.
Not a fan of league average starters being our number 2 starter.
He’s been better than league average. The podcast said he has like the exact same peripherals as Pettitte last year.
3.82 FIP, 4.70 tERA, 4.23 SIERA, 4.27 xFIP. That’s the exact definition of league average but Freddy gets the benefit of having a low ERA and apparently we throw out that ERA is unreliable. And in a year of lesser offense Pettitte struck out one more batter per inning and walked the same amount of batters.
greater offense*
2010 offenses: .257/.325/.403
2011 offenses: .255/.320/.398
That’s a pretty minimal difference. And only a select few people here say that ERA is unreliable. ERA is like BA. It reflects what happens on the field, like getting a hit or giving up a run, and not necessarily how good/bad they actually are. I’d really be fine with all 3 in any order, but I think Freddy has been more consistent regardless of he numbers. He’s had only 2 bad starts, against the Sox, and against the O’s.
the choice is league average or below league average. I’ll take …. league average.
And Freddy has been slightly above league average anyways.
Colon is not below league average.
not saying he is, I’d say Colon, Garcia, and Nova are all roughly league average
the below average options I was referring to were Hughes and AJ
actually I take that back, looking at the numbers now I’d put Colon as slightly above league average
Jeter better hit a homer later.
reply fail.
Not gonna happen.
Could be. No clear choice between Nova, Colon and Garcia at this point.
don’t forget AJ
/smokingthenon-objectivepipe
That play only works with Grandy on 1B.
That’s on you Jeter.
Thanks, Derek.
good job Jeter.
Damn error.
Jetes owes us a big hit now.
Thank you Captain.
That’s how the Angels do it.
I blame Gardner.
Crap. Well, I guess a 1-0 lead wasn’t going to hold up forever.
I currently have a huge hatred for all our Short stop’s defense
Abreu will now take a few pitches.
including strike 3!
Jeter really Minka’d Colon with that error.
That pitch Greg Maddox would be proud of…
Way to go Bart! Had to get 4 outs that inning….
Filthy
Did you see the slight of hand by Martin… omg
He does frame pitches very well. I think Cervelli does to for that matter.
These unearned runs are getting pretty annoying.
Nice job by Bart limiting the damage.
I know this game doesn’t matter at all, but a 3.5 game lead would be so pleasing to the eye. I’m greedy.
If this game doesn’t matter at all then why watch?
Montero.
You think this game matters?
It matters, they all matter. It’s just not a “must win” by any stretch of the imagination.
beautiful fucking pitch Colon!!!!
Obviously nobody on here voted in that poll.
I actually don’t have a definitive choice, but if my life was on the line I’d say Leyland.
Jim Leyland by a mile.
Why? Just wondering.
The team is 6 games over their Pythagorean winning %.
In compairson, the Yankees are 3 under and the Red Sox are 1 under.
In the mid 2000s Torre over performed his pythag by a fuckton of games. It’s ridiculous.
I think a good bullpen should help your pythag, since you’re more likely to win close games, at the same time its a lot to do with luck. I hate Leyland as a person, but he’s having a lot of “luck” in Detroit.
Missed the poll. First current AL Central manager to die?
Pick to win AL manager of the year. Girardi was the popular choice.
I hate myself for laughing but that was hilarious.
Watching every Yankee out in front of changeups except one who waited on it with authority….
Tex has been pretty bad from the left side of the plate all year right? Why doesn’t he just no longer switch hit and just hit from the right side? Can it really be any worse than his hitting from the left side?
Can it really be any worse than his hitting from the left side?
He hasn’t take an at-bat against a righty from the righty side in more than a decade. Yes, it could be much worse.
Fair enough, but why not work on it over the offseason? Aren’t his stats drastically different from the left Vs. the right? It might be worthwhile doing.
Just a thought. I know it is useful having a switch hitter but when he’s hitting so badly from one side it seems like with some work it might just be better becoming a right handed hitter. Is there any way to find out his BABIP from left vs. right?
.290 BABIP vs lefties
.218 BABIP vs righties
I can’t find out what type of balls he’s hitting so he isn’t necessarily being that unlucky.
I think the numbers clearly mean something though. The shift makes it very difficult to get a single to right field; hence the drastic reduction in BABIP against righties. I wouldn’t say Tex is getting unlucky, the shift accounts for his low BABIP.
You simply can’t ask him to abandon hitting from the left side playing at Yankee Stadium with all the HR he hits. Yes he’s a more balanced hitter from the right side, but he has more power (and Yankee Stadium power) from the left and it should balance out. That’s why he’s a switch hitter. The AVG will never be as good because of the shift and how pull-happy he’s become, but you live with it. A few extra dinks and dunks over a season and his AVG looks fine.
But compare 10 home runs to a 30 point increase in average, which is worth more? I guess the home runs are probably but would it be worthwhile having him only hit right handed in a less right-field friendly park?
no guarantee he’ll be able to hit RHP well batting RH. He may just lose the power and keep the low average. A better approach would probably be for him to just work on using the whole field while batting LH. I would think that would be an easier adjustment for him than to just abandon switch hitting.
Yeah I would like to see him use the whole field. Honestly if he can just tap it down to third he gets a hit as long as the switch is on. He really needs to work on that cause the all or nothing isn’t working that well.
Not true Mike. He hits Wakefield right handed.
he’s still above average overall from the left-side, he’s just mostly HR or nothing
Going all RH, he probably loses many of the HR’s with no guarantee of improving everything else
Hughes should learn to throw a 2 seamer like Weaver and Colon’s…That pitch is nasty
Tex isnt the greatest breaking ball hitter in the world.
TO be fair to Tex that was nasty.
Nope. Never allowed to credit the opposition. Teix sux.
/beltranvswainwright’d
Weaver is straight balling…at least the Red Sox already lost again.
Strikeouts. Better than double plays, but that’s about it.
MVP my upper thigh
Hey hey! There he is!!
There Curtis is too. Wearing a path back to the dugout.
Don’t worry, you can be my MVP.
Inner or outer portion?
Teixera’s approach from the left side has just gone steadily downhill over the last few years…. he’s turned into an extreme pull, uppercut swing… which means 4 general outcomes when he makes contact… flyball HR, line drive down the line (or foul), popup/shallow fly to the left side, groundball to the right side.
He now has zero power to left and centerfield hitting lefty and just 3-4 yearsagoe he would hit the ball to all fields from both the left and right sides of the plate (now he only does that right handed).
Do you think that the only reason is the short porch? Or is there something else.
He had the short porch in 2009 so I hope it isn’t the case.
Not sure…
Most guys tend to pull the ball more and more as they get older, so it might not just be a Yankee stadium effect.
But 4 hits to LF batting lefty all year shows a completely horrendous approach at the plate and is not someone who should be hitting 3rd against righty starters.
He’s nowhere near the hitter he was when he played in Tex, Atl or LAA.
Completely different approach in his at bats. Solely swinging for the fences to pull, rather than line drives all over the field.
The power numbers look good, but completely inconsistent production through the last 2 seasons, and the averages show this.
holy shit he didn’t look out to me…
never mind, yeah he was. holy shit
Instant replay disagrees
Fantastic.
A-Rod’s still got that laser arm.
Nunez has a laser arm too.
Weaver is good at this pitching thing
literally just came here to say exactly that. holy shit.
eh, that wasnt a strike but weaver is going to get those calls the way he’s been around the zone.
yikes he hit his nuts there
Weaver is on a roll.
10 K’s for Weaver, wow.
I hope the Angels don’t make it to the postseason. Weaver, Haren and Santana is death.
Stop wit the whole “I hope we dont face this team” crap. Does it really matter. Its the postseason, the teams suppose to have really good players, but guess what, you think they wanna face the Yankees too?
Sorry for my opinion not being the Yankees will go 11-0 in the postseason. I thought the purpose of a blog was to express your opinion whatever it may be but whatevs.
Didn’t you predict X-3 or X-5?
Wait, what?
You mocked a groupthink opinion of the Yanks being unbeatable right after predicting a “death” (hence the 3 or 5 losses, X being the wins you’d grant them). Your polar comment was called and you responded by mocking the opposite polar.
Yeah but im saying that every team has a couple of those “OMG, dont wanna face em” type of players.
We have seen way too many postseason games to think that pretty much anything can happen.
I think there is too much “no one wants to play this team” crap thrown out this time of year.
Someone brought this up in KLaw’s chat yesterday about how “no one” wants to face either the Braves, Brewers or D’backs right now, so then everyone wants to face the Phillies?
It’s just repetitive nonsense.
That’s why we need to win the series and help knock them out. Texas won today, and we need to push another run across the board. Close low scoring ballgames favor the Angels though as they’re better at playing small ball and moving runners over.
This is a post-season type game where great pitching shuts down great hitting.
/bullpen decides
Or defense decides(as it already has somewhat).
and Bart looks like our #2 Post Season starter.
Seeing Lincecum with all that hair just reminds me of how he’ll never be a Yankee.
Also the legalized weed.
Pot doesn’t bother me in the least. Should be legalized and taxed as far as I’m concerned.
Why should it be taxed?
Because everything is, outside of food and clothing.
Duh.
same reason that tobacco and alcohol are. They provide “negative” societal impacts. It’s a whole economics thing.
+1
Thay’s probably the better reason! I have a buddy who has a prescription. He loves it.
Remember Johnny Damon’s hair with the Sawx?
If Damon did it…
my god that 2 seamer is SICK
Bart is the best 900K we will spend until Montero has earned 900K by 2013.
that’s one hell of a bunt, folks
Wow Michael Kay got married, I hope he tells us about it at some point
Old news-he’s been married 8 months to his long-suffering wife.
lol
No condiments.
f this small ball bullshit
What the fuck?
Angel Baseball (TM)
Oh, fuck off with that bunting garbage.
There’s something Gardy could practice.
If Brett Gardner could do that we’d have an unbeatable lineup.
if gardy could do that hes a 320 hitter
that was fucking beautiful.
Love you, Bart.
Bart is good at baseball.
Strong outing from Bartolo. Now win this damn game.
And Colon will give way to Robertson. Colon really should be in line for the W here if it weren’t for Jeter’s error. Derek owes Bartolo a couple dinners.
Standing O for Bart, here in my cubicle.
You’re still at work? That’s a pretty rough day on a friday night.
Night shift.
Nasty pitches are being thrown tonight.
Ok-a walk now by Montero would be second only to a HR. Plate discipline.
yea dont hope for walks vs weaver dude has a 2.2 bb/9
Wasn’t hoping-just thinking he wasn’t going to get a good pitch to hit. He swung at ball 2 but not a bad ab.
So with a 6 man rotation is it really necessary to pull pitchers not named CC before they hit the mythical 100 pitch mark where their arms potentially fall off?
Reaching for something to complain about here. Half the board here would have bet $100 Colon would have been sitting at home by this point, not matching Jared Weaver in a pitchers’ duel.
beating if it wernt for the captain
Reaching as well.
That’s great… but it’s now September – time to update your assessment of Colon.
Or Girardi can keep managing via fear and a percpetion of player that was formed 6 months ago
I’ll give Girardi your number next time I see him.
Jesus gets robbed again. Both of his outs have been hit hard.
Jesus with the BABIP-fail….
*Sigh*
Why doesn’t Brett try to lay one down? He can’t hit Weaver.
uhh, I really wouldn’t mind Bart getting another inning here
Colon should have had a shutout. (everyone in room stares at Jeter)
They should put in Nunez for defense already…
I’d sooner put in Phil Rizzuto’s corpse as a defensive replacement than Eduardo Scissorhands.
Too soon?
Come on Derek, make up for the error.
Ok, at least that’s something.
Outside of Jesus, noone is making solid contact.
Montero for Hitting Coach.
Gardner eschews the bunt once again. OBP should be his mantra.
Please, Grandy, park one. Get Bart the win.
That single by Jeter makes up for his error in the fifth inning.
Oh wait, it doesn’t.
Grandy is so due right now
Please do something, Grandy.
that changeup is fucking filth. straight up filth
C’mon Grandy, snap out of it
Granderson hit a Homer!!!!
I like how Sciosia sets up a little cubicle for himself in the corner of the dugout. Secretly, he always wanted to be an office worker.
He did enjoy working at the Springfield Power Plant.
Actually he reminds me of Milton from Office Space.
boy granderson can’t buy a hit
ugh
Fucking.
No win for Bart
Definitely a moral victory, though. He was great tonight.
Number 2 in October. That’s a win.
Yankees get BABIP fucked…….AGAIN
More BABIP
THe offense is just in a collective slump right now.
I have an idea–let’s put Gitty, Gutty, disGraceful Brett Gardner at the top of the line-up instead of a Hall of Famer
Better idea: actually look at the lineup before commenting.
Jeter has a .326 OBP vs righties…but okay keep being stupid.
Also the line up thing.
Note to self: don’t trust everything this guy says.
How about not???
You realize that Gardner already has K’d 3x already, and has been slumping for a while now.
He was being sarcastic I think
The word disgraceful is a subtle clue.
Actually, Gardner was killing the ball in the days leading up to this game. He came in with a September wOBA of .500.
But what has he done for me in this game?
what a duncecap
Total AssHat.
Damn it…
good defense by the Angels + the suckery of Gardner = bad omen
Is Gardner the only one sucking? Huh.
Now for Girardi to turn to…..THE BINDER!!!
Worst joke/narrative ever. Reeks of jackass sports radio guys and tabloid sports reporters.
Yeah really. Nothing says fresh and original like a binder joke.
Yeah, I know the binder joke is overdone, but I’ve seen Girardi managing these past few games like it’s game 7. Five pitchers in 2 innings, matching up just to match up. You’ve played everyday, and have used your pen alot. Don’t overmanage.
crazy, i always thought walden was left handed
I always think Shaun Marcum’s a lefty, and I’m surprised every time I see him pitch that he isn’t. It’s weird.
same here. I seriously had no idea he was a righty until i saw him pitch for the brewers this year. I must’ve just not paid attention all those toronto years
Hooray, Weaver’s done.
It’s a battle of the bullpens now. I’ve got my popcorn ready.
Not that I’m incredibly confident about our bullpen vs. theirs once Robertson and Mo are gone, but still…at least it won’t be Weaver anymore.
Because they’ve got…..?
Soon we will need to bat our 2 best hitters in the first inning to maximize ab’s.
Who else other than Montero?
with any luck, yanks should be up 3 to 1, but weaver was very good tonight
uhh… Jesus Montero should appear on that list twice
I love watching David Robertson get better every year. Something tells me we’re going to be seeing him at the end of games for a very long time to come. What a joy to watch.
This. I’m not nearly as concerned about the post-Mo era anymore.
I think DRob stays in the 8th and Betances succeeds Mo in 2014, but what do I know? (Yes, 1 Year extension for Mo in 2013)
FYI – MLB Network showing the game now for folks like me who don’t have YES
Wow! Thanks Tom. I’ll take Yes crew over Anaheim Feed on Extra Innings any day.
boy, trumbo does not walk AT ALL. I read that he currently has more homers than walks…. yeesh
he currently has more homers than walks
We call that “The Jorge Vazquez.”
ha so true
26 homers, 24 walks.
Mike said it somewhere, Walden is due for a meltdown.
Filth
wow that didnt look like a strike
i’ll take it
Cano will win us this game.
Michael Kay did not say Robertson should be a starter, please tell me he didn’t say that.
Excellent frame.
D mutha fucking ROB
I’d love to see ARod turn around one of Walden’s 98 mph fastballs for a game winning homer.
To all those losers (yes losers cause you lost) who wanted Joba to start and argued about how innings from a starter were more valuable….
Why not also argue that David Robertson should be starting?
Career reliever, walks more.
DRob has always been a reliever (through college too), Joba was a starter converted to a reliever.
Derek Lowe, Goose Gossage, & David Wells were too…
Robertson doesn’t have a third pitch he trusts. He throws one changeup a month. Joba uses both his curve and slider in relief.
Also, he’d be a five and fly guy because he can’t seem to get through an inning in fewer than 20 pitches.
but still wouldn’t five innings be greater than one a game every other game?
DRob’s changeup development is key to not wasting any more money on a loogy.
D-Rob was never groomed to be a starter in the minors
There’s a great game going on right now, Manny. Let’s watch it.
2 pitches vs. 4 pitches
Hasn’t started in years vs. starter all his life
No professional starts vs. MLB AL EAST success as starter
also it would take about 5 years to stretch him out to 200 innings
wrong
Anybody want to take this one? No? Good.
Wonder if Montero has ever played a game (or even been to) California before?
I think he played in Angels Stadium in the Futures Game a few years ago.
Actually, that was Romine. Where was the ASG in 2009 … ?
Busch.
St Louis
Aren’t there any AAA teams in California?
In the Pacific Coast League, not the International League.
ok
And Tex swings at ball 4.
Hey mike (or anyone else with knowledge), quick question. Are there any flamethrowers (pitchers who consistently hit 96+) very close to making the big leagues for the yanks out the bullpen?
Yes, and he might even pitch tonight.
Dellin Betances
ah i forgot about betances
good point
Just Betances at the upper levels. They have some guys in Single-A that throw gas, but they’re years away.
ok cool. Thanks
I would really hate to see another opportunity lost to gain on the reeling red sox because of bad defense
That Weaver guy might also have something to do with the game so far.
Another feeble lefthanded bat for Tex… granted Walden throws hard but he couldn’t even get a good swing on a 2-1 fastball right down the middle.
Scoscia face’d
Scoscia with the “are you fucking kidding me?” face.
according to fangraphs
robertsons best pitch is his changeup
mind blown
That’s the epitome of small sample size. He’s probably thrown like, 30 this year.
That seems like a big number, no?
2% of the time i wonder how many pitches hes thrown this year
robertson has thrown 1082 pitches
so hes actually thrown 21 or 22 changeups
Which is most likely because when he does throw it, it seems to be with two strikes when the hitter is not expecting it and has to protect against the fastball.
A-rod has some patience to sit on 99 slightly outside the black
Cano will win us the game!
Cano to the rescue.
i do not like this idea at all
Mike Scioscia’s “confused” look reminds me a lot of Tom Coughlin when the Giants make stupid mistakes.
… I just hope Nunez’s defense isn’t going to hurt us
… f-ing Nunuez lol
If Nunez is PRing he better steal.
Pinch running in a tie game? If he’s not stealing this is a dumb move (it’s not like ARod is slow)
As a visitor in a tie game, you always want to play aggressively.
is it me, or is the halo on the cap a little gay?
They used to wear caps with the halo all the way around the top. That was weird.
Okay Robbie, make something happen.
imagine how exhausted the yankees must be. gonna be a brutal month
Now we can watch Nunez play defense
My My Mike Scioscia face My Mike Scioscia face
The Buck Showalter face is much worse.
so we just took out a guy with the career numbers at this ballpark in A rod for a guy who will not steal and have a game changing error in the bottom of the ninth?
I almost made fun of you for this, then he got thrown out at second.
When did the Angels trade for Papelbon?
/pitchthedamnball
Do something with it, Jordan.
Jesus Christ he’s not Rickey Henderson…
As you can see.
Fuck.
gosh damn it
1 out of 12 caught steeling, yet there sits Nuni on first
Shit
well that worked well
PR fail…
Nunez still completely Useless
Oh crap
He was a dead duck. Girardi’s an idiot. You don’t out small ball the Angels.
WTF?????????????????????????
Words can’t describe how much I want Nunez traded this offseason.
Cant blame Nunez for that.
Yep. Can’t blame him for getting CS.
He got caught because the Angels pitched out at the correct time.
He didn’t seem to get a very good jump, considering Walden’s leg kick. Also wtf did Girardi send him on a freakin 0-2 count? Most obvious pitchout count.
But you can blame Girardi for sending him on an obvious pitchout count.
most likely he had the greenlight the entire AB, and Nunez was the one to choose when to go, not Girardi
can mike napoli do that?
can he???
/defensive scioscia’d
robbie swinging at crap
Very close play on a pitchout. Not upset at Noonie. It wasn’t the 3rd out.
lol of course leave it to the Yankees to increase the percentage. this guy was 1 out of 11 caught steeling!
Cano will….win….ahh sh*t…
another sloppy game by the yanks
Boy, I guess amphetamines actually helped.
for real
Now we have to pray no one hits anything to the left side of the infield
Of course that just happened. Another 1 run lose coming up. Playoff spot locked down blah blah, but damn if it isn’t frustrating to see that crappy record in 1 run games.
Once again, I will reach for my phone at some time early in the morning and either be awfully happy or awfully pissed.
Laffey in the game, lol Girardi ready to wave the white flag
0-2 just screams pitchout
White flag.
Aaron Laffey? This is not going to end well for us.
laffey giradri throwing in the towel
nunez reminds me of the actor cliff curtis
his nose, not the sucking at baseball thing
David Robertson for starter!
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweets.....d-starters
Noesi is dead or something?
Why not put Chavez at 3rd? I’m getting so tired of Eduamiro Penunez…
No need. He’ll pinch hit for Pena if his spot comes up.
Laffey in, Angels win. Mo was the right choice here. BUT YOU DON’T BRING YOUR CLOSER IN TO A TIE GAME ON THE ROAD! You do if you’re smart.
and then Laffey would just pitch the next inning
Thank you.
LOL, no he wouldn’t. They’d bring in one of the better guys to close it out.
what better guys were available? Soriano, Proctor, Noesi, Wade, and Logan were all likely unavailable due to there recent workload. All that’s left is the Laffey/Ayala garbage relievers or having one of the rookie callups make their MLB debut in a tie game.
Laffey???? wtf
Pena wasn’t any good the last time he was up in the bigs either
Laffey in the 9th. Pena at third. Lull them into a fall sense of security, then WHAMMO.
Aaron Laffey?
Another game where Mo will never pitch as Girardi waits for the save opportunity to arrive.
Girardi in full robot mode tonight.
or girardi in full i want to keep my guys healthy for the playoffs mode
Wouldnt he have gone to Soriano if he was in full robot mode?
he’s not available today
Guys, stop defending Girardi… obviously people are just trying to fit in and irrationally second guess Girardi like everyone else
the yanks are not taking advantage of the red sox falling apart…meanwhile the Phillies marched into Milwaukee and have destroyed the team with the second best record in the national league and the best record at home in baseball two straight games. meanwhile the yanks sloppy defense and stagnant offense has lost them 2 straight against Baltimore and will ultimately cost them this game. they should be up 4 and half against the sox right now. at least Pena is at third instead of Nuni, but A Rods bat is gone
Girardi really wants the wild card
No confidence in Laffey. Hoping to be surprised. It’s a shame that a team like ours has to have this game depend on Laffey.
was in traffic today behind a mercury mountaineer. read it as mercury monteroisdinero
too much time spent on this site
Where is any other reliever?
I hate pinch running there. It doesn’t make much sense in a tie game like this in which A-Rod may ultimately play a deciding role on defense or offense, and especially with just 1 out in the inning. A-Rod is not slow, and you put a ton of pressure on your hitters to score against a tough pitcher.
And to top it all off, Nunez ran in about the worst spot imaginable there, pretty much taking away any advantage from him being on the bases.
I think the idea was that the bullpen is short, so Joe was trying to pull out the stops to try to get a run there and go to Mo
I don’t have a problem with it except that Nunez picked the wrong pitch to go on
here we go.
Chavez makes that play.
unless chavez doesnt listen to girardi and doesnt play near the line or he grew 3 feet, no he doesnt
I know, I’m just hating on Pena.
Pasta diving Ramiro.
Joe “no more extra innings please” Girardi
Pena froze. Took forever to respond.
he had no chance at that
would have had a better chance if he responded faster.
The Angels are still so ANNOYING.
So…. how are Feliciano and Marte doing?
And I wonder if A-Rod might have had a chance at that play too, because he’s taller and more experienced at 3B at getting jumps on balls like that.
no chance
Aaron Laffey is laughable.
Ayala huh? That’ll do it. Sucks, I wanted to see Zeus hit again.
I really hate Girardi
not feeling good about this
Is Callaspo a switch hitter? he has to be, right?
Yeah, significantly worse from the right side. Ground ball with eyes, that’s all.
Um… No? He’s hit lefties better than righties in his career, and hit for a better average against them this year.
Remember, about 10 minutes ago, where everyone wanted to throw Nunez off a bridge? This is how I feel about the 2011 version of Ramiro Pena. He hasn’t even shown he can do the one thing we all thought he was good at this year.
You are all nitpickers of Girardi. You would criticize God if given the chance.
It’s true. Some fans are way too critical of Rivera when he blows a save.
What have you done with Greg?
Do you ever criticize a Yankee? Not just tonight, but in general.
God made Girardi, no?
No.
are you serious right now? Girardi has lost at least 12 games this season
how did he lose this game??
Stupid three game losing streak.
Laffey tonight, Proctor last night…I get the team is tired but Girardi is just giving away these games. of course the angels will bunt or steal SUCCESSFULLY and win this game. VERY frustrating
Except Proctor was the right choice last night and Laffey gave up a ground ball to third which should have been an out.
Now Ayala three days straight? Have at that one.
You’re going to see the game decided by the managers here. One is playing to win, the other is not playing at all.
Joe standing next to his beloved binder. I’d love to hide it from him for a week.
DFA Laffey and bat Montero 3rd. Screw the binder.
look on the bright side
it wont be an extra inning loss
The Curtis Granderson—-
More strikeouts than hits.
More strikeouts than games played.
Oh, I want to play too!
More runs scored than anyone
More RBI than anyone
More homers than all but one
Get a room
rbi’s count now?
As long as strikeouts do, why not?
you know there was once a player who played for the yankees for 15 years, in those 15 years he was 1 or 2 in strike outs in 9 of those 15 years
his name? Babe Ruth
the curtis granderson
more runs scored than everyone else in the MLB
more RBIs than everyone else in the MLB
more home runs than everyone else in the MLB save for 1 person
You have great tunnel vision.
He’s your boy Pat D.
Too many innings.
Why is Laffey even in this game? Girardi has a ton of guys down there who are both better and more worth a look than Laffey. While Callaspo is a better hitter from the left side, it’s not a big difference.
Yeah Mo would have been the wrong call…
Laffey against a switchhitter, Ayala 3rd day in a row…. pitchouts to get behind in the count….
Hi my name is Joe Girardi and I like to manage for the sake of managing!
Mo just delays the inevitable one inning and uses his bullets in a game they likely lose anyways
Im ready for this Laffey experiment to end
Wah Wah He’s not managing the way I want to manage wah wah
This stupid best team in the American League sucks.
welp this game is over
Well, that’s the ball game.
Oh man….
lol this game is over. nice punt Joe.
This sucks.
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
Baltimore West…..
/no doubles defense’d
Pena is worthless… read the damn scouting reports
I am completely shocked that moves by Girardi has failed
Hate losing west coast night games. Keep the binder under your pillow Joe.
and this game will now be over
really giradri
it’s spelled GIRARDI
i so want a suicide squeeze
Wah Wah I hate my manager even though he won a World Series and was a manager of the year with the Marlins wah wah
Jeebus you’re not helping your cause here.
you mean a manager of the year award he won despite even though he had already been fired?
Pena got a terrible break on that ball. Another play that you wonder whether A-Rod may have had at least a chance of knocking it down and keeping the runner at 2B.
Girardi not only overmanages, but he makes completely illogical moves in the process. If you were trying so hard to win this game that you were going to PR for A-Rod, then why are you bringing in a garbage pitcher like Laffey, instead of someone at least with some potential like Betances?
Once again, going through the September motions, contradicting himself when he’s unsure of whether to rest or work his guys.
I agree. Girardi is a moron
No way you bring in Betances in a spot like this.
Yeah, no reason to bring in Betances, but of course it makes sense to bring in Laffey?
Laffey, who may be one of the worst pitchers on the roster right now, who the Angels have seen already a ton this year while he was on Seattle, who has little hope of retiring even the weakest of hitters?
Yeah, let’s just punt the game and make the excuse that the bullpen is tired, while perfectly viable options are sitting on the bench.
What better spot to bring him in than this supposedly “meaningless” September game, in which he is facing one of the worst lineups in MLB and the bottom of said order?
Cause he has no margin for error. You don’t have ANYONE make their MLB debut in a tie game in the 9th inning on the road. The reason that the scrubs cane in this game is because it was a meaningless game.
perfectly viable options??? Names please. Noesi, Soriano, Logan, Wade, all unavailable. All that’s left is rookie making MLB debut or Laffey/Ayala garbage. There were no good choices. That’s why he pinch ran in the ninth, trying to take the lead so he could use Mo instead facing the choice of rookie debut or garbage.
Exactly. The only mistake he made was letting Nunez go on an 0-2 obvious pitchout count. He should have gone on the first pitch.
Everybody makes mistakes, everybody has those days.
Yeah, I went there.
seriously, have you watched ARod play the field lately. There is no chance he makes that play unless he was positioned 5 feet closer to where the ball ended up. The pinch-running was trying hard to win the game in the NINTH so that he could go to MO and not have to use the garbage that was all that was left available in the bullpen.
This team isn’t good enough to beat Jared Weaver (or the Orioles’ bullpen) with half-assed measures. Being tired is a reasonable excuse but Girardi’s got to get off the fence. Either go all in or don’t. If losing these games means nothing, then don’t pinch run for ARod, don’t throw Robertson, don’t start Martin, etc., etc., etc. I’m sure Sciosia won’t be offended.
I was Girardi would risk his relievers health in October for tonight’s non-significant win.
game over another golden opportunity lost. The Yanks will Play Boston for the Division and lose because of this stretch of shitty d, horrible hitting and a idiot manager
“an” idiot.
Who gives a shit? Hopefully the ALCS doesn’t get to game 7 anyway.
This is the moment you leave right before the crowds do in order to beat them. Good night.
lol Ayala is so bad.
… 1-2 count, hit the guy. Oy.
Prolonging the agony here.
what’s better for the team tonight: a 9 inning loss or a 16 inning win?
A 16 inning win. You can always enter tomorrow playing with half a team hoping for a split.
Phrased awful: You can always enter tomorrow with half a team and worst case being a split. You know what I mean. I’m going to sleep.
Is Girardi the only manager in baseball whose gets worse when the rosters expand?
It’s almost like he’s got too many options and he thinks I can make all sorts of moves!
bet you Ayala walks the winning run in.
He’s gonna walk in the run…
Even with the anti-Girardi sentiment on here (some from me included), the offense in the latter innings has looked absolutely gah-bauge lately.
I think Girardi is just looking at the Red Sox scores and saying we can throw this game and try tomorrow. Problem is if the starter gets roughed up or we can’t hit their starter tomorrow you might not be in a position like this to win the ballgame. Girardi’s an idiot.
I want Girardi fired after this atrocity..No joke. Stupid moves after stupid moves.
So you’d risk your relievers health for a game that will have no impact for the team? Simply put, the Angels put a better team out there tonight.
Noesi must has been tired after not pitching. Pinch running for Arod, is obviously the smart thing to do. Using bad pitchers in close games is a must. I’m not asking Mo to pitch 9 innings, but we have better options in the pen than a terrible Laffey and a Not-as-good-as -his-ERA Ayala. D-rob throws 13 cesspits, so he obviously can’t go further. Neither could Colon after hitting that invisible 100 pitch wall.
Noesi pitched Tues and Wed, with multiple innings on Wed. DRob has been used a ton recently, no need to push him for 2. Wade and Logan were likely unavailable as well.
I do agree on Colon though. With the short bullpen and a tie game, Joe could have tried to get another inning out of him.
We pitched Ayala 3 days in a row…is there different rules for different pitchers? Noesi for an one inning after an off day is not exactly pushing him.
Yes, considering Ayala is pretty much sucks and blowing out his arm won’t affect his future with the Yankees, let him pitch till his shoulder falls off. Noesi has lots of trade value and years of cheap pitching with upside, there is no reason to push him. Especially when he couldn’t even hold the game 2 days ago against a worse team.
this, except the last part was Nunez fault
…is there different rules for different pitchers?
Serious? Of course there is.
Ah the good ole Joba rules days
The bullpen is spent, and this game means nothing. There is no reason to put anyone good out there, and out of all the options Girardi had, Ayala and Laffey have the most experience and best numbers v. their matchups. Noesi has blown his share of games, I think I remember one fairly recently, Wednesday.
On a booted Groundball by Nunez…all Noesi’s fault? Laffey and Ayala’s numbers are not good. I rather we use Noesi and lose and say okay, we tried to use our best available reliever (out of mo), than use our worst ones.
So you blame Laffey for the groundball past Pena, but the groundball Wednesday was Nunez’ fault. Sometimes things just don’t go your way, and the Yankees have the ability to combat that with stellar talent, but its not worth it at this point in the season.
Waaaaaaaaaaaah
Wahhhh obviously Joe can do no wrong. I’ve defended him before, but last few nights was just a plain slew stupid moves.
I only crticize him for absolutely stupid moves. Those at least had some merit.
Another game “Girardi’d”
sigh…
now watch roberston not be able to pitch tommorrow
God, these one run losses in extra innings are really getting on my nerves. Thank God the AL East lead is 2.5 games.
/small ball’d
Stats aside, no one scares me more coming into the game than Ayala.
I know it’s not a big deal in the scheme of things, but damn is this sort of loss infuriating.
Damn. I wanted Mathis up there because he contributes to 27 outs a game, or so I am told.
No further comment, other than have a great night, all!!!
so tired of these one run games…
Hey at least the Angels aren’t making the playoffs. Suck on that Rally Monkey.
suddenly the rangers don’t seem quite so annoying
Wah I hate my manager wah.
I thought I was bad, but you all are awful.
You are all like the fans who write threatening letters to Don Dekinger and Steve Bartman.
You know what’s more annoying than people complaining about stuff?
Well known complainers complaining about people complaining about stuff.
Yeah, really. Greg’s seriously telling people not to complain? All he does is complain.
I have never called for Girardi’s firing. I have never called for his death as some of you seem to have done.
I complain about players, not managers. Only when managers do something absolutely stupid is when I complain about managers.
I haven’t complained about Girardi at all in this thread, and I rarely do at other times.
I only complain about Girardi when it is worthy of it when it is absolutely stupid.
His moves recently have not been absolutely stupid. So therefore you are being a crybaby.
For the record, I didn’t complain about Girardi. But sure.
No, you always make contradictory posts just to play devil’s advocate. You never have an original thought, or a consistent viewpoint. To lecture people on such is incredibly hypocritical.
THIS.
I imagine 0-3 with a run differential of -3 isn’t all that common.
The last three games have taken, what, 10 hours? Can we have all of those back?
no faith in this team.
who really gives a shit??? montero hit a homerun – thats awesome! we still go to the playoffs! hurray!
Girardi has trouble managing a 100 win team. No seriously, this team is talented enough to win 100 games with a monkey at the wheel.
I don’t give a shit if they win 100 games, just win in October. Girardi is making sure this team doesn’t turn in to the Red Sox with half our pitchers injured.
I prefer we try winning winnable games than throw em out.
Except he is burning through his bullpen like every game is do or die. He’s had Rivera throw in games twice in the last few weeks after he’s had outings of nearly 30 pitches. Wade and Logan had thrown in 3 of 4 games recently. Robertson was left in to throw over 30 pitches in a 2 inning save.
He’s gone to some of his pitchers for only 1 or 2 batters, and then thrown the entire set up corps in games in which they have had 2 or 3 run leads.
The Red Sox pitchers are not injured because of overuse, but simply bad luck. Girardi, just like last season, can’t decide whether he wants to play for the division or the wild card. Just like last season, his mistakes in overworking the pen are costing him many close games down the stretch.
exactly. At times he plays like the games are must wins, then decides to take a game off or something. Very annoying.
You complain that Laffey pitches and complain that the Yankee good relievers are overworked. Laffey is pitching only because he is giving his good relievers rest (Soriano, Wade, not pushing DRob for 2 innings. That he is refusing to overwork his relievers is the reason there are games where garbage like Laffey has to pitch.
Girardi is giving these guys “rest” only because he is basically forced to because of how badly he overworked them in the last few weeks.
If Girardi handled his bullpen properly, he would have probably had both the wins and the arms available.
It’s not just about giving guys rest, but doing it in a way which does not affect your team’s ability to win games. Girardi is having to sit down guys like Robertson because he was bringing them in to pitch in 3-4 run games and throwing 25+ pitches.
he’s giving him the same rest he always does. Its only because they have played a lot of close games lately with no off days that pitcher’s being unavailable is noticed. You wouldn’t expect to have all of these close games, and when was the last time DRob threw 25+ pitches in a 4 inning game. Because of the close games, they are getting to limits of how often he uses them, but he hasn’t used them more than before. Nobody has been overworked, he’s done a good job of not abusing anyone despite all of the close games.
*4 run game
and when was the last time DRob even pitched in a game with at least a 3 run lead
8/28 and he only pitched that day because he needed the work after 3 days off and pitching once in the past week
Don’t blame Girardi, blame the offense. 3 hits in the last 15 innings? Doesn’t matter who’s managing if you hit like that.
Not saying the offense is not at fault, but his micro managing has been terrible these few games.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Very informative.
Was Wade not available or something? I know he pitched yesterday, but he had a day off before that, and I trust him a whole lot more than anyone else in the pen outside of Robertson and Mo.
Three 1 run losses in a row suck. At least Montero, Colon and Robertson showed up tonight. The other guys are lost.
Doesn’t matter what moves Girardi made or not, you’re not going to win when you score one run.
End. Of. Story.
Decent play by Jeter and Mo in the 9th and we win 1-0. Not so far-fetched.
/fallacy of pre-determined outcome’d
Bingo. The Yankees staff allowed 1 ER today. The real story was the Yankees bats (except for Jesus) getting shut down by Weaver and Walden.
So exasperating. Don’t worry everyone. Joe will start Posada over Montero tomorrow night and he will have a good reason!
PS: Aaron Laffey is not a major league pitcher.
Girardi to Texas: Drop Dead
girardi is an idiot.
pinch run for arod but nunez does not run early in the count. btw I said it before he got thrown out. if you bring in a pinch runner you have to run ealry in the count off a guy who they have thrown out only 1 guy all year off.
then the laffey move. calaspo has a higher avg fro mthe right side, his power differential is meaningless the guy has 5 homers all year. when the next 2 hitters are righties. so in esswence he brought in a lesser boone logan to pitch to 1 guy from the guys stronger side….
the logic is?????????????????????????
why not try Kontos or another young guy? you really expect laffey or Ayala to do anything positive????no friggin chance…….
girardi got outmanaged by scioscia for a change, what a shocker……..
Laffey had success against lefties and experience with the Angels. The young guys need to earn there way into spots like that.
Yeah really, Laffey didn’t exactly give up a booming hit off the wall. It was a ground ball through the infield.
Except Laffey wasn’t facing a lefty, and it’s not a good thing for teams to have seen him, because he is terrible and doesn’t have any out pitches. BTW, Laffey vs. LAA this year:
1.2 IP, 3 hits, 2 BB
Not to say that this is an indicative sample size, but the Angels had no problems handling him when they saw him, and given his track record and ability level, no reason to suggest they wouldn’t here.
Laffey was facing a switch hitter that’s been worse against lefties, and it was a dinky ground ball through the infield. The problem was the offense.
He was facing a switch hitter who was worse from the right side. Logan has sucked balls lately, it’s a meaningless game, get over it. Any rest the bullpen gets at this point is good. Girardi’s mistake was not sending Nunez on the first pitch.
He can rest the bullpen by throwing any one of his other call ups in there. Why are these guys on the roster if you never plan to use them?
It’s not a meaningless game. If you lock up a playoff spot early, you can rest these guys properly. If you do this inbetween thing and don’t, like last season, then you have to push Phil Hughes over his innings cap just to ensure an easy last week. Look at how his high work load affected him at the beginning of this season.
These decisions don’t take place in a vacuum. Girardi is not resting his players, nor is he winning the games to make up for it. He’s burnt through his bullpen, just like last season, and is losing games that could allow him to wrap up a playoff spot early and prepare his team for October.
“He can rest the bullpen by throwing any one of his other call ups in there. Why are these guys on the roster if you never plan to use them?”
You don’t have some kid make his MLB debut in the 9th inning of a tie game on the road.
“It’s not a meaningless game. If you lock up a playoff spot early, you can rest these guys properly.”
They have all but mathematically locked up a playoff start.
The Mets had all but locked up a playoff spot in 2007 as well. How did that work out for them?
You can’t sit half your lineup every night when you haven’t clinched. You simply can’t afford to risk even that remote chance of making the last week of games meaningful right before the postseason, or even missing it.
These games are interconnected, and it isn’t just about tonight. Girardi’s inability to properly leverage his bullpen arms has led him to burn out many of his key pitchers, and have them unavailable in more useful spots like tonight.
Second, if you care so little about this game that you are willing to throw Laffey in the first place, then what do you have to lose from throwing ANYBODY else? Having Cervelli come in to pitch is going to get him creamed by the media and may lose him the game, but it does just as good a job of resting the pen.
Your posts are entirely contradictory. If the game is “meaningless” as you say, then it shouldn’t matter whether the guy comes in to make his debut in a blowout or a close game. If there is enough meaning to put pressure on him in that spot, then the game matters more than you are willing to admit.
Ok whatever. I’m done with this.
Laffey is so good he was DFA’d by Seattle.
Corey Wade (a righty) has better splits ve lefties… yet that didn’t stop Girardi from bringing in Laffey yesterday and Wade one batter later.
Girardi is a slave to the lefty lefty matchup and apparently doesn’t realize the quality of the pitcher matters.
Would Girardi bring in Laffey if a left leadoff to get an out before bringing Mariano in? Not saying some of these other guys are Mo, but Girardi is treating Laffey like he’s the same quality as everyone not name Mo/Ro/So
And using a Loogy for a switchitter is brain dead… you have to go with the better pitcher in that circumstance (esp if there’s not a lefty on deck where’d you want to keep a LOOGY in)….
hard to wins games when weaver pitches and every liners is caught and laa has 5 infield hits. jeter error, sending nunez and first pitchout were stupid
That was weak, but the offense sucked, jeter muffed an easy play, and girardi pitches fuckin laffey against a switch hitter. I’m fine with him against a lefty but that was dumb, should have just brought in Ayala. Really hope the offense wakes up, horrible the last few games
On a serious, does Girardi only consider the hitter splits and the handedeness of the reliever when he makes move.
It’s almost like the actual quality of the reliver is irrelevant…. last night he brought in Laffey to face a lefty and then brought Wade in for the next batter(Wade, even though he’s righty, is actually better than Laffey vs lefties)
It’s almost like he simply looks at the hitter split and just autopilots his own relievers regardless of the quality of the reliever… basically anyone other than Mo, Robo and Sori are all one pool and platoon matchups dominates all else.
Would you rather have laffey facing a righty tonight or Ayala against a lefty? Why make that move for Laffey for 1 damn batter (and a switchhitter) if you know you are pulling him after it…
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Mark this Greg…the Yanks WILL lose in the first round of the playoffs for all the reasons seen in the last 3 games. You can call it insignificant or whatever, but the bottom line is this team has too many holes and even if by the grace of whatever miracle the baseball gods could conger up make it to the world series, the Phillies will sweep this team back into reality. Another great pitching performance was wasted tonight, but the Yanks will score 10 runs when AJ pitches only to have him give up 11. So they have the best record in the American league..by what, beating up crappy teams. Anyone in the National league will eat this team up…and even the red sox who look like crap right now, would come into Yankee stadium tomorrow and sweep the yanks.
How will the Phillies sweep this team if they can’t get past the first round of the playoffs? Did the Phillies finally become an AL team?
re read. I said they are first round losers…even if by the grace of whatever miracle the baseball gods could conger up make it to the world series
How are the Phillies going to sweep them if they aren’t going to get out of the first round?
Don’t ruin the narrative!
do any of you actually read? or just wait to blast what other people post.
Then it means the baseball gods will have “congered” (or should that be Kongered?) up some kind of black, voodoo magic.
Hank Conger?
Correct word choice is very overrated. Also, not taught in school anymore.
So true. So true.
Sadly, I know how to spell.
(Hard to tell the sarcasm here, but I think you know I was referring to the OP’s choice of “congered” as were you.)
Your spelling, word choice and punctuation are above reproach.
You’re funny. Do you write this up all by yourself or do you buy stuff from gag writers?
Ha! I’ve finally found the guy who votes 1 on the confidence poll. Please to meet you, you troll!
first round…..hope all you homers are still here to post
I hope you’re happy playing with your small sample sizes.
The reasons they have lost the last 3 games were tired offense, key members of the bullpen being unavailable, and errors (mostly by scrubs who won’t play in October. The bullpen will be fully available in most, if not all games in October, the built-in days off will let the players get rested and allow the Yankees to play with their full normal lineup, and the scrubs won’t be playing.
The reasons they lost the last 3 games won’t even exist in October.
angels had 5 infield hits because the yankee left side cannot move..
jeter has zero range and arod moves like a chair…………
I take it you missed the play where A-Rod had to range to his left and throw out Howie Kendrick at first from foul territory.
Range to his right, my bad, it’s late.
Girardi continually contradicts himself as a manager, failing to both rest his players and get the wins.
If you know that your best bullpen arms are overworked, and you have a starter who is pitching very well and only at 99 pitches, then it might make some sense to stretch him out a bit against a weak lineup?
Nope, Girardi went straight to his primary set up man, when he knew that he had very few pitchers available to back him up. With the way that the offense has performed lately, and the fact that the Angels have some good set up guys, why are you playing for the win right away there?
Girardi claims to be playing for the “big picture,” but he can’t even think of it within the games themselves. It’s not like Colon was having a mediocre start. Sometimes you need to “save arms” for later innings if you feel that the game may go deeper. Having guys like Wade and Logan throw to only 1 or 2 batters every night forces you to keep using these same set up arms because the offense is slumping.
If you are going to rest, rest for real. Try some of your callups out in these spots to see what you have. Give some position players like Cano a blow. Make up your mind.
Wah
Yes, because having an intelligent thought, versus acting like a child and posting the same thing in response to anyone’s criticism, makes you so much more credible?
You may want to think about who just made the bigger fool of themselves on this thread before you copy and paste that into another pointless response.
Go to bed.
That’s a really mature response. You really showed me?
If you can’t make a constructive post, then maybe you should take your own advice.
You can rest guys and try to win in the same game. The Yankees have enough depth that they can win games without having everybody available.
I do agree on Colon though.
He can definitely win games while resting players, but he can’t make up his mind about when it’s worthwhile, and then ends up somewhere in the middle. With a 2 or 3 run lead, maybe he doesn’t HAVE to use Robertson. But he does, and then doesn’t have him available in a 1 run game. He gets him his “rest,” but not in the optimal spots.
Does he really think that a guy like Wade cannot be trusted to pitch an additional inning in a 2 or 3 run game, to save his arms for higher leverage situations?
When you try to make up for games like Wednesday by burning through the pen again, that only adds to the problem. Commit to a direction and stick with it. If you get the wins now, you can rest these guys later. If you rest these guys now, you can get the wins later. Doing this inbetween thing means he has both tired players, and fewer wins.
For instance, give as many of the regulars as you can a full day off after 2 AM on Tuesday night. Don’t put the whole lineup back in, even though it’s a tie game! You still had enough guys in there to be capable of scoring the go ahead run. Pinch hit Cano in that spot, sure, but you don’t have to have him play in the field afterwards.
It seems to me that he has decided every game is worthwhile to win, just not at the expense of the big picture. If a pitcher needs rest, he still going to try to win the game, just not with that pitcher. I’m not sure playing a few innings after playing a late game is really going to be detrimental. A 2 or even 3 run game is still relatively high leverage, if Wade, in your example, allowed a baserunner in that extra inning of work, DRob (or whoever, depending on the inning) would still have to get warmed up at least and perhaps come in anyways, so you may as well use him from the get go and don’t risk having to bring him into a jam. The situatiion has come to a head recently because they have had no off days and have played a ton of close games. It’s just an abnormal set of circumstances.
He is picking a direction and sticking with it, trying to win games at the same time as giving guys rest. He has been using that approach all year, and they have the most wins in the AL because of it.
Your last line demonstrates why I have trouble taking most of the posters of this blog seriously.
I get attacked for suggesting that Girardi’s strategical mistakes have any impact on the game, because the players still failed.
Yet, Girardi gets praise for having his team in first place and the most wins in the AL? It’s not because he has the most talented team in the AL as well?
There is so much hypocrisy around here. What you described is exactly an inbetween strategy. “I want to win the games, but not at the expense of hurting my players.” It sounds like it’s the best of both worlds, but not really. Resting the whole team on one day, and then having those guys all available for the next 3 games may be more beneficial.
Girardi isn’t a horrible manager, but he’s not a good one either. I like how he keeps the bullpen arms fresh but not much else. The team’s success is mostly due to the team’s immense amount of talent. Most managers are either overrated because of their team’s success or deemed terrible because of the bad teams they’ve been put in charge of. Girardi seems to be somewhere in the middle.
I pointed that out because YOU said that inbetween strategy results in fewer wins. I was merely pointing out that that is factually incorrect. They HAVE been able to win a lot of games despite the strategy you seem to have such a problem with. Sorry to bother you with facts. I know facts make it difficult for you to take posters seriously. And I never attacked you today. I merely pointed out that you can try to win and rest players at the same time. As far as your last paragraph, do you really think punting 1 out of 4 games would be a beneficial strategy??? Its comments like that that make nobody on this blog take you seriously.
I’m not at all saying Girardi is a great manager because of the team’s record. I’m not even saying he’s a great manager. I’m saying his try to win by using depth while resting players strategy has not at all hurt the team overall.
No more Aaron fuggin Laffey please…
no writer will aks girardi any questions about his choices late in the game…
they will talk about jesus and colon.
not 1 question on why griardi is a moron…………aaron laffey to trun callaspo around to his slightly stronger side…….
nunez doing a gardner and not running early in th ecount.. classic stupidity. shocker called a pitch out on a 0 and 2 count.. what a suprise…….
Callaspo’s weaker from the right side, and it was a ground ball through the infield.
We’re scuffling a little right now with the bats–Pause for a drink of Poland Spring–replace the screw on cap.
I have dyslexia–I saw Laffey on the gun and thought 89 was 98.
Tired of hearing everyone make excuses for Girardi — if he was looking @ the red sox results and punting this game why bring in Robertson in the 8th? Bringing in Laffey to pitch the 9th makes NO SENSE when he’s your worst reliever and and he’s pitching after your 2nd best reliever (whose inning count keeps climbing). Can someone please steal the binder and insert DFA next to Laffey’s name?
Haha, Bob Lorenz said the Yankees offense has been stoned.
/druggie’d
girardi tries to be too cute with his decisions sometimes but who cares?????? the team is going to the playoffs – hurray!!!!!
YOU shut the fuck up! ever heard of real fans? real fans care!
WHY DONT YOU CALM DOWN A BIT? but i get what ur saying bro, peace.
Oh look, the Yankees are still #1 in the division.
Offense still looks a bit sluggish, but with the week they’ve had, I’m not surprised. Also, last time I checked, Weaver was a pretty good pitcher.
Tomorrow is another day. Hopefully the guys get some sleep, some sun and come out swinging tomorrow.
Last time I looked Weaver had a 6 ERA in his last 4 starts but whatevs.
Is that not the definition of a small sample size?
It means he’s been pitching like AJ Burnett for the last month.
But unlike AJ, he’s actually good. So one would expect him to turn it around.
And he didn’t pitch like AJ tonight.
Always sucks to lose, especially a close game (and after two crummy losses to the Os), but this isn’t the end of the world.
I don’t mind a little slump in September if the offense is firing on all cylinders in October.
one of them was trying him on three days rest for the first time…the second one his mind was elsewhere…they won one of those games regardless.
His mind was elsewhere? Hmm. I wonder if he saw the Yankees’ missing bats while he was there?
yea, those Orioles–first in Nre York and then in Baltimore are simply juggernauts. You can’t expect much more going up against that pitching staff–even Curtis with all those rbi’s–and Gardy with that wOBA—
Wait, where’s Granderson’s wOBA? You use it to shoot down Gardner, but conveniently leave it out for Granderson.
You’re a joke.
I’ve been saying that he’s funny. Glad someone finally agrees.
I agree.
Who is that Vocabularry guy? Is he new, or is he just one person using multiple handles?
As frustrating as this loss was, I will admit that hearing Sterling try to do the postgame over the sound of fireworks does put a smile on my face.
Ugh, don’t remind me of the shitty fireworks they set off at that dump…
does anyone else want ian kennedy back?
uhm, yeah.
Can he hit?
this team can already hit… look at our fking lineup:
ss jeter
cf granderson
1b tex
3b arod
2b cano
dh montero
rf swisher
c martin
lf gardner
bench: jones, chavez, etc
wtf else do u want
your posts are garbage tbh…. get a clue: STOP POSTING HERE!
hi “im a real fan” – i’ll stop posting but not because you told me to; i just have to go to bed. peace out homeboys.
You need help, dude.
Seriously Mike, who are these people? blue balls? Vocabularry? My God.
And give up the MVP?
In exchange for Granderson? No, not really.
callaspa has a higher BA from the right side Mike unless the angel announcers were qrong. they said it flat out on the angel telecast.
no logic to have laffey in there for 1 batter who has a higher avg right then left.
no EXCUSE. Even the #’s do not support it…….
You mean the binder was wrong?!!!!!
Callaspo vs LHP: .283/.329/.348
Callaspo vs RHP: .277/.366/.372
The six stupid points of batting average is more than offset by the 37 points of OBP and the 24 points of SLG.
The real issue is that Laffey is just that…laughable. His stuff is underwhelming for a LOOGY: doesn’t throw hard and his breaking pitch is droopy not sharp. Why don’t we give Valdes a shot while we’re playing meaningless games?
Mike – you need to look at the quality of the pitcher too… you are treating the decision as if the only variable is the hitter (which is Girardi’s fail)
If the pitchers are of equal quality then you look soley at hitter splits but Laffey is not the same quality as the other relievers in the pen.
Girardi did the same thing yesterday… he brought in Laffey to get a lefty in front of Corey Wade… make sense right?
Any guesses on who gets lefties out better (hint: the answer isn’t Laffey)
Mike….
Look at Laffey vs righties and Ayala vs lefties…
Laffey vs righty: .928 OPS against
Ayala vs lefty: .726 OPS against
So you’d rather have the hitter split of 61 OPS poiints compared to the delta above?
Call me crazy but I’d rather have the clearly better pitcher against the hitter from a marginally stronger side…
gardner is almost down to 250. he has not done anything in minimum 2 weeks. 1 homer when the yanks were up.
so the yanks will continue to put luis ayaala out there in tight games the fake wanting to win instead of seeing in Kontos or others have anything to show at the big league level.
aaron laffey for 1 batter, a switch hitter who hits for a higher avg from the right side, absolutely amateur hour…………..
Brett Gardner doesn’t hit enough to be the Yankees starting left fielder. He has no power and doesn’t drive the ball. I can’t even count on him for a single. He’s become an automatic out.
Gardner in September this year (granted not counting today)
1.088 OPS, .500 wOBA, 221 wRC+
yeah, he hasn’t done a thing in 2 weeks
and the switch-hitter to which you refer makes a lot more outs against lefties, the goal there was an out
Looks like they’re doing the same “we don’t care if we win the division” thing they did last year. I remember being infuriated when they brought in Mitre to a close game vs. the Rays last season.
Last year the excuse was all the injuries. This year it’s the lack of off-days with a west coast trip sandwiched in. It’s always something if the current system isn’t changed where there’s no real penalty for being the WC team.
This site really goes batshit insane with every loss.
You know, I think I’ll take off tomorrow. After all, I’ve got three things to watch at 9 tomorrow, so I can’t be bothered to post here with a group that gets collectively crazier by the day.
three things to watch at 9? Sure you can fit all that in to your whirlwind of a schedule. And others are batshit insane? Funny you.
It’s called a DVR, for one thing.
For another, two of those things are sporting events where it’s not necessary to watch every single second of both games.
Yes, I am rather funny. Thank you for noticing. I’ll send you my fan club kit very shortly.
do you have perhaps a 50 percent off coupon on the membership kit? I bet you’re a downright riot at family get-togethers. The crazy Uncle Pat in the den while the turkey is getting cold, watching four football games, the parade, and a ping pong match from China—and the parents warning the toddlers to leave Pat be, because you never know when old Pat will go batshit
Hey, I just became an uncle for the first time! How’d you know? Are you spying on me? I’m very flattered, but I’m not ready for that level of committment.
But, let’s not mince words here. You have a record, and it is broken. You just love to antagonize people. You do a so-so job at it.
And with that said, O:S time.
May I ask what you’re watching?
Yankees game, Michigan/Notre Dame game, Doctor Who (which will be DVR’d)
I’m over this loss already. You can’t expect a tired line-up to hit around a pitcher like Jered Weaver. As long as the Red Sox are losing/hurt all is fine in Yankeeland. Let’s just not lose too many now. Let’s get another winning streak going. Montero’s homer was amazing BTW. He’s making me drool about the thought of him in his hitting prime. Girardi needs to go the Mike Scoscia school of managing also. His managing has been attrocious, not that its ever been that great.
and yet, they both have the same number of world series trophies as a mananger.
Sciosia’s cubicle is much neater.
“I’m over this loss already.”
FTLT would be proud.
I’ve been wondering what happened to her.
I’m very angry with Girardi right now for not using Mo two games in a row in this same exact situation. It is really stupid and brainless to manage according to a meaningless statistic like the Save and use pitchers that shouldn’t be in the big leagues instead of a rested Rivera in a game-deciding situation.
But I’d rather have Girardi than Scioscia. Scioscia is the most overrated manager in baseball.
girardi makes mistakes like other humans if you cant deal with it then stop watching the games do you really need baseball that much you have to watch every game jesuschrist get a nother hobbyu
im talking to umbrella
Hey it’s special kid, awesome! Enlighten us with your stories of tanks and ripping people’s arms off.
What’s interesting is that his last post made perfect sense.
The whole idea is to learn from your mistakes so you do not repeat them. Girardi just repeated the same mistake that he made the other night against Baltimore by not using Mo.
The problem is that Joe Girardi doesn’t realize that he is making a mistake. That makes this mistake a lot less ‘ok’ than the other night.
Will he manage Rivera like that in the playoffs? Would you really be ok with the lowest man in the bullpen, whoever that might be in October, pitching that 9th inning rather than Mo? Would you think that is the right call?
Of course this is not the main reason they lost tonight. But it definitely hurt their chances to win.
when i said tanks i mean it about people with squareish looking bodies like carmona for example montero is a tank
i dont make childish comparisons anymore cuz im more mature now i take meds now
+1
vocabularry, special kid, blue balls… the freaks are out tonight.