Sep
09

Game 143: Swishaliciousless

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(AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

After spending half of Thursday’s game flexing his left arm/hand, Nick Swisher is out of tonight’s lineup with a sore elbow and it could be a couple of days before he returns. He said his elbow has been bugging him for a while, but yesterday he felt a sharp pain after making a throw. He hopes to get it checked out by a doctor today. At this point of the season, there’s no reason for the Yankees to push it with anyone if they feel anything more than normal soreness; they should be focused on surviving the regular season and going into the postseason at full strength. Here’s the starting nine…

Derek Jeter, SS
Curtis Granderson, CF
Mark Teixeira, 1B
Alex Rodriguez, 3B
Robinson Cano, 2B
Andruw Jones, RF
Jesus Montero, DH – first start against a righty
Russell Martin, C
Brett Gardner, LF

Bartolo Colon, SP

It’s a 10:05pm ET start, and the game can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads

885 Comments»

  1. Mickey Scheister says:

    Wow, six former all-stars batting in front of Jesus.

  2. Jedile says:

    First! Also Can’t wait to see what Montero does tonight! Probably 1-4 with a 2 RBI double.

  3. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    oh fuck, Kay made a west coast trip. was really looking forward to a Singleton/Cone booth.

  4. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Sigh…will we ever see the optimal line up this year? Andruw’s okay, but he’s no Nick Swisher.

  5. Nuke LaDoosh says:

    Damn Marllins Pirates game running a little late and going to cause the Extra Innings Yankee broadcast to miss the first inning

  6. Tyrion Lannister says:

    Damn, I was looking forward to a couple series without Kay. He never flies out west. At least we have Leiter.

  7. Xstar7 says:

    California……knows how to party
    California……knows how to party
    In the citaaay of LA
    In the citaaay of good ol’ Watts
    In the citaaay of Compton
    We keep it rockin’, we keep it rockin’

  8. mbonzo says:

    Yankees are gonna hammer Weaver.

  9. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    good god those uniforms are atrocious.

  10. Guns of the Navarone says:

    Another srikeout for KKKKKurtis Granderson. What a shock! MVP my ass.

  11. mbonzo says:

    MY EARS KAY!

  12. Xstar7 says:

    A-Rod’s still got it.

  13. Greg says:

    Whoa a break in the space time field.

  14. Cy Pettitte says:

    you suck Bobby

  15. Pat D says:

    After all the rain, I’m sure the Yankees are enjoying this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy57Xdk9u0o

  16. Justin says:

    Oh god, did anyone else just get a static attack of death in the audio?

  17. Greg says:

    I swear I;ve seen more of those down the line doubles recently.

  18. Xstar7 says:

    Kay: “Bobby Abreu has really been struggling.” (hits double)

    Business as usual for Michael Kay.

  19. Mickey Mantle's Outstanding Experience says:

    Apparently, Bobby Abreu walking is ironic. Who knew?

  20. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    That ump is gonna drive me crazy with those late strike calls.

  21. mbonzo says:

    Most overrated player, Torii Hunter or Jimmy Rollins?

  22. Nuke LaDoosh says:

    Reggie Jackson in the booth with the Angels TV team

  23. Ivan says:

    Really Leiter…..Best defensive outfield.

  24. Nuke LaDoosh says:

    Reggie: Robbie could hit .340 with some “babip love” (I’m paraphrasing)

  25. Greg says:

    Weaver’s got his array of pitches working.

  26. Tyrion Lannister says:

    Cano just struck out. MVP my ass.

  27. Cy Pettitte says:

    what happened to 6 ERA in last few starts Weaver? I liked him better

  28. dkidd says:

    ian kennedy straight up for curtis granderson

    would you make that trade?

  29. Guns of the Navarone says:

    Shit. Weaver looking awful filthy tonight. He’s putting the ball anywhere he wants.

    • Nuke LaDoosh says:

      Reminds me of Sarah Michelle Gellar line in Cruel Intentions: “You can put it anywhere you want.”
      /Knees knocking.

  30. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Swisher’s elbow? Scary.

  31. Jedile says:

    I sure do hope Swisher is okay.. I would hate to lose him going into the post season.

    Also High Probability Betances gets into a game? I likey!

  32. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    I’d kinda like to see Dellin start over AJ in seattle. Of course they’re never gonna do that…

  33. mbonzo says:

    The Rays are within 5.5 games of the Red Sox, who could be looking at a very desperate starting pitcher rotation. I think its time for them to get worried, especially with so many head-to-head games. It’d be crazy if the “best team in baseball” ends up not making the playoffs.

  34. Nuke LaDoosh says:

    Wow, my first Jesus Major League AB. (Missed the last week or so)

  35. Ivan says:

    Wow just amazing…..

  36. Reggie C. says:

    JESUS MONTERO !

    CRUSHED!

  37. Mister Delaware says:

    JESUS!

  38. Cy Pettitte says:

    Jesus! HOLY SHIT!!!1

  39. Jetrer says:

    Sweet Jesus!!!!

  40. Xstar7 says:

    SWEET BABY JESUS!!!!

  41. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    RISEN!!

  42. Stratman9652 says:

    Anyone else see that coming?

  43. mbonzo says:

    Montero owns Weaver!

  44. Tyrion Lannister says:

    Play this kid every day. Every damn day.

  45. Pat D says:

    Jesus has risen!!!

  46. tom says:

    I’m guessing that at bat’ll get some reaction from this board

  47. Mickey Scheister says:

    Fuck yes! He’s a monster.

  48. bonestock94 says:

    woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  49. Jorge says:

    I’m beginning to get used to this. Sweet baby Jesus.

  50. Guns of the Navarone says:

    Lavarnway light strikes again!!

  51. The Big City of Dreams says:

    Play me everyday

    Signed
    Jesus

    • Mickey Scheister says:

      Just don’t eclipse the max number of PAs to qualify for ROY, next year. Or just play em everyday and let him win this year.

  52. Grit for Brains says:

    Power to all fields

  53. Mike c says:

    Impressive!

  54. Mister Delaware says:

    Anyone else watching the Anaheim feed? They showed the field view and Aybar didn’t even flinch his shoulders, just dropped his head a little.

  55. mt says:

    MVP candidate Granderson – strikeout

    All Star Cano – strikeout

    Jesus Montero – homerun – impressive.

  56. Cy Pettitte says:

    can you imagine if this kid broke camp as the everyday DH? Yanks fucked up stashing him in AAA again.

  57. LiterallyFigurative says:

    Jesus Montero……righty killer?

  58. mbonzo says:

    Girardi’s head is exploding, how the hell did a righty batter just hit a righty pitcher?

  59. Reggie C. says:

    Wow. This ump has a big strike zone.

  60. It’s going to be a really fun decade or two. What a bomb.

  61. BK2ATL says:

    You gotta be fucking kidding me. Jesus goes deep again????? And off Weaver?

    And some of yall wanted to trade him.

  62. Monteroisdinero says:

    I feel so good now.

  63. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    was anyone listing to WCBS? did Sterling come up with a better call?

  64. Plinko Chips says:

    I don’t know guys… I’m trying to temper my enthusiasm but unless he gets out of that crouch Montero will never be able to pull a fastball above 90 mph

    /lohud’ed

  65. The Bomb Diggity says:

    Is there somewhere we can promote Jesus to if he starts to get bored in the big leagues?

  66. Tyrion Lannister says:

    September AL Player of the Month Jesus Montero goes deep again.

  67. Widget says:

    I really was hoping Granderson could keep his batting average around .280 or so. I feel like the voters will hold his batting average against him.

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      No homers since Aug. 28, average declining. His chances are getting slimmer and slimmer at the moment. He’ll need to go on quite a tear before the season ends to stay in the race.

    • BK2ATL says:

      He’s in a bit of a slump. Has been for a couple of weeks really. But he’s gotten a timely hit for us here and there during that time, and drawn some walks.

      It’s really time for A-Rod and Tex to step it up consistently. Grandy and Cano have been pretty much carrying the offense all year, Tex’ stats be damned.

  68. Monteroisdinero says:

    Jesus with 3 HR’s off fb’s.

    Next-a curve ball.

    The best #8 hitter we got.

  69. Melky says:

    Jesus Montero is 7 for his last 8 with 3 homeruns

  70. mt says:

    Montero is the only Yankee with a hit the last nine innings.

    They better keep Jesus in there as much as possible.

  71. Gonzo says:

    A Montero smash is worth like 30 good posts in one minute!

  72. Ryan says:

    Anyone been to the shops around the stadium lately and see if they’re selling montero shirts yet? Can’t find any online yet

  73. Pat D says:

    Anyone else think that playing 3B has screwed up Youkilis this year? I also think he needs to move to DH if he can’t play 1B anymore.

  74. LiterallyFigurative says:

    Jeff Mathis….the .178 hitter AJ Burnett couldn’t get out…..smh.

  75. tom says:

    Can I interrupt this Homage to Jesus by pointing out Colon is kinda kicking ass so far?

  76. Monteroisdinero says:

    The bat speed and waist torque of Montero is so impressive. Reminds me of some pretty impressive players of the past.

  77. JobaWockeeZ says:

    FUCK I MISSED ANOTHER JESUS HOME RUN?!?

  78. Stratman9652 says:

    We thought Girardi loved Cervelli too much, how about Scocia and Mathis. I don’t care how great the defense is, that line is unacceptable from an everyday player. Cervelli looks like Babe Ruth compared to him. Unreal.

  79. LiterallyFigurative says:

    But I thought pitching was all about velocity?

    /ListeningtotoomuchPhilHughesanalysis’d

    • Monteroisdinero says:

      Pitching is all about velocity when you can’t locate and you can’t throw offspeed for strikes behind in the count and you used to throw 96.

      • LiterallyFigurative says:

        Pitching is about location and movement. I said what I said in relation to looking at Jared Weaver be a top 5 AL pitcher throwing 90 mph.

        Hughes velocity isn’t a concern, his location is. Daniel Bard throws 100 and gets hit.

  80. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Since 1919, Jesus Montero is 30th player to have a multi-homer game within his first 4 @MLB games.

    http://twitter.com/#!/Yankees/.....8194847744

    Jesus fucking Montero.

  81. Xstar7 says:

    Alex went, so the Robot Umps can be held off for at least one more day.

  82. thaaaaaaaaaaaayankeeswin says:

    calling it right now…6th inning, Yanks tag weaver with a serious crooked number

  83. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    God damnit Kendrick…

  84. Mister Delaware says:

    That was hot.

  85. Mister Delaware says:

    Auto-tune commercial is the first time I’ve watched Buck and McCarver and not felt loathing.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      I know only one time McCarver was tolerable in a game. Buy or rent game 3 of the 2003 ALCS. McCarver then is Einstein compared to what he is today. Like for one day God blessed him with intelligence.

  86. FIPster Doofus says:

    That WB Mason commercial is fucking awful.

    “It’s NEVA NEVA NEVA just as good.” Hate it.

  87. Monteroisdinero says:

    Bobby “I will raise the pitch count” Abreu is so annoying.

  88. Tyrion Lannister says:

    Ruth, Mantle, Gehrig, and someday Montero. My guess is Montero eventually surpasses all 3 including Ruth as most home runs hit by a Yankee.

  89. Jetrer says:

    that was lame Reggie, very lame

  90. Monteroisdinero says:

    Reggie-that was sad. Kim Jones might now have a better arm.

  91. Monteroisdinero says:

    Bart with the strong hamstring!

  92. FachoinaNYY says:

    Jesus ABs = must see tv at this point

  93. Cy Pettitte says:

    the trend suggests that when Jesus hits a HR off a pitcher, he hits another one in his next AB against that same pitcher. I expect #4.

  94. mbonzo says:

    I hope Montero didn’t watch his homerun for too long. Weaver might get mad this at bat.

  95. LiterallyFigurative says:

    Dear Red Sox:

    Please pay attention to that rapidly approaching object in your rear view mirror……

  96. Monteroisdinero says:

    Jesus is gonna see nothing but changeups & curves now.

    /he will be ready

  97. Nuke LaDoosh says:

    Is Bart auditioning for 2012 in Anaheim.

  98. Monteroisdinero says:

    Andruw with the walk decreases the chance of jesus getting plunked.

  99. Xstar7 says:

    Damn. Right at Hunter.

  100. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Bad luck.

  101. Monteroisdinero says:

    Smashed the changeup to RIGHT FIELD.

  102. Cy Pettitte says:

    at least he hit it hard. Jesus has been having some great ABs, super impressed. doesn’t look like a kid with 20 MLB ABs.

  103. JT says:

    Would that have been a hr in yankee stadium? Too low right?

  104. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    If there is another WC, that team should play a one game playoff against the division winner with the worst record, regardless of what division they’re in. This way we don’t have a scenario where a team like the 2001 A’s have to risk their 103 win season (or whatever it was) against a clearly inferior team, and they cold still add the “excitement” of another WC race.

  105. Monteroisdinero says:

    very few hitters in baseball will hit a changeup HARD to the opposite field.

    That’s what Leiter should be impressed about.

  106. mbonzo says:

    If you have a choice of allowing Montero to become whatever he’s capabale of or guaranteeing him an Andruw Jones type career, which would you prefer?

    • FachoinaNYY says:

      Andruw Jones career and its not even a hard decision.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      After seeing the wonderful successful rate of top 10 hitting prospects I let him go on his own path.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Andruw Jones and it’s not even remotely close.

    • Nuke LaDoosh says:

      interesting question. somehow, I am indifferent between the 2 options.

      • FachoinaNYY says:

        Jones is a HOF-er – if you could guarantee that Montero has a similar career in terms of value/production, instead of gambling that he could potentially be an elite HOF-er (with the potential of being a bust) it really is not a tough decision.

        • Nuke LaDoosh says:

          I understand your POV. I’m not sure Jones is a HOFer. Longevity is a question there. I don’t believe I am gambling anything. I think Montero’s production from the C position may be ridiculously elite for the next 8-10 years, followed by a great career at 1B/DH.

          • FachoinaNYY says:

            It is absolutely a gamble… there is the chance of that Jesus isnt as good as predicted, plays so poorly behind the plate he is moved early thereby lowering his value, a freak injury, loss of desire, or anything else that could possibly ruin his career.

            You compare that risk with the GUARANTEE of even a borderline HOF career (at the very least Jones is borderline), you take the guarantee with ANY prospect, regardless of who it is… even the all time great prospects such as an ARod or Jeter (looking at them at the time comparable to where Montero is now).

            While Jesus’ ceiling is possibly higher than Jones career the risk is simply too great to gamble.

            • Nuke LaDoosh says:

              So, I think you’re saying it was a rhetorical question and you could substitute Jesus for any other prospect in baseball (Trout, Harper, etc.) I understand your POV.

      • Mike Axisa says:

        Andruw’s hit 400 career homers. I’m not sure how you could expect more.

    • Mike says:

      Andruw is probably going to make the Hall of Fame…I’ll take that from Montero.

  107. Chris says:

    Sorry I know this is the game thread and my question isn’t game related.

    Im from rhode island But I’m attending Yankee stadium at the end of the month. It’s a Sunday and I plan on afterwards going to a sports bar to watch some football. Can you please recommend some great places? I don’t mind traveling into the city and what not if it’s worth it. Thanks

  108. Greg says:

    This is exactly what I feared with Gardner. Way too inconsistent.

  109. Monteroisdinero says:

    Montero wears white nail polish on right hand even when not a starting catcher just to remind Joe G.

  110. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Borjous running in slow mo is faster than Jorge Posada in real time.

  111. Sarah says:

    I wish Gardy would lay down a bunt. I worry he’s taking too much BP with Tex.

  112. Eirias says:

    HEARD THIS. Amazing display of pitching to the score in the NYY-LAA game.

  113. LiterallyFigurative says:

    1:18 mins since start of the game. Bottom of the 5th.

    Had this been a Yank-Sox game, this would’ve been in the bottom of the 2nd inning at this time lapse.

  114. Cy Pettitte says:

    what the fuck Jeter?

  115. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Ugh, Jeets…killing me man.

  116. Ivan says:

    Come on Jeter…

  117. Xstar7 says:

    Ugh, Nunezian. Now Bartolo has to get 4 outs this inning.

  118. Monteroisdinero says:

    Wow Derek-the arthritis must be tough to deal with.

  119. Stratman9652 says:

    Nice job by Tex staying with the play.

  120. Guns of the Navarone says:

    What is with this team defensively lately? I know it was the C team the other day but Jeter’s throws have been really off.

  121. ItsATarp says:

    Jeter has been hanging out with Nunez too much

  122. Mister Delaware says:

    Ok, we have to credit Mathis there, he did the “good” kind of slide into 1B.

  123. LiterallyFigurative says:

    Jeter…..really?

  124. Nuke LaDoosh says:

    Is Bart our #2 Starter in October?

  125. Monteroisdinero says:

    That play only works with Grandy on 1B.

  126. Xstar7 says:

    That’s on you Jeter.

  127. Pat D says:

    Thanks, Derek.

  128. Cy Pettitte says:

    good job Jeter.

  129. Total Dominication says:

    Damn error.

  130. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Jetes owes us a big hit now.

  131. Monteroisdinero says:

    Thank you Captain.

  132. Guns of the Navarone says:

    That’s how the Angels do it.

  133. mbonzo says:

    I blame Gardner.

  134. David N says:

    Crap. Well, I guess a 1-0 lead wasn’t going to hold up forever.

  135. ItsATarp says:

    I currently have a huge hatred for all our Short stop’s defense

  136. Monteroisdinero says:

    Abreu will now take a few pitches.

  137. LiterallyFigurative says:

    Jeter really Minka’d Colon with that error.

  138. Ivan says:

    That pitch Greg Maddox would be proud of…

  139. Xstar7 says:

    Way to go Bart! Had to get 4 outs that inning….

  140. JT says:

    Did you see the slight of hand by Martin… omg

  141. Jesse says:

    These unearned runs are getting pretty annoying.

  142. David N says:

    Nice job by Bart limiting the damage.

  143. Guns of the Navarone says:

    I know this game doesn’t matter at all, but a 3.5 game lead would be so pleasing to the eye. I’m greedy.

  144. thaaaaaaaaaaaayankeeswin says:

    beautiful fucking pitch Colon!!!!

  145. Greg says:

    Obviously nobody on here voted in that poll.

  146. Monteroisdinero says:

    Watching every Yankee out in front of changeups except one who waited on it with authority….

  147. Ethan says:

    Tex has been pretty bad from the left side of the plate all year right? Why doesn’t he just no longer switch hit and just hit from the right side? Can it really be any worse than his hitting from the left side?

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Can it really be any worse than his hitting from the left side?

      He hasn’t take an at-bat against a righty from the righty side in more than a decade. Yes, it could be much worse.

      • Ethan says:

        Fair enough, but why not work on it over the offseason? Aren’t his stats drastically different from the left Vs. the right? It might be worthwhile doing.

        Just a thought. I know it is useful having a switch hitter but when he’s hitting so badly from one side it seems like with some work it might just be better becoming a right handed hitter. Is there any way to find out his BABIP from left vs. right?

        • JobaWockeeZ says:

          .290 BABIP vs lefties
          .218 BABIP vs righties

          I can’t find out what type of balls he’s hitting so he isn’t necessarily being that unlucky.

          • Ethan says:

            I think the numbers clearly mean something though. The shift makes it very difficult to get a single to right field; hence the drastic reduction in BABIP against righties. I wouldn’t say Tex is getting unlucky, the shift accounts for his low BABIP.

        • Guns of the Navarone says:

          You simply can’t ask him to abandon hitting from the left side playing at Yankee Stadium with all the HR he hits. Yes he’s a more balanced hitter from the right side, but he has more power (and Yankee Stadium power) from the left and it should balance out. That’s why he’s a switch hitter. The AVG will never be as good because of the shift and how pull-happy he’s become, but you live with it. A few extra dinks and dunks over a season and his AVG looks fine.

          • Ethan says:

            But compare 10 home runs to a 30 point increase in average, which is worth more? I guess the home runs are probably but would it be worthwhile having him only hit right handed in a less right-field friendly park?

            • Jetrer says:

              no guarantee he’ll be able to hit RHP well batting RH. He may just lose the power and keep the low average. A better approach would probably be for him to just work on using the whole field while batting LH. I would think that would be an easier adjustment for him than to just abandon switch hitting.

              • Ethan says:

                Yeah I would like to see him use the whole field. Honestly if he can just tap it down to third he gets a hit as long as the switch is on. He really needs to work on that cause the all or nothing isn’t working that well.

      • Monteroisdinero says:

        Not true Mike. He hits Wakefield right handed.

    • Jetrer says:

      he’s still above average overall from the left-side, he’s just mostly HR or nothing
      Going all RH, he probably loses many of the HR’s with no guarantee of improving everything else

  148. ItsATarp says:

    Hughes should learn to throw a 2 seamer like Weaver and Colon’s…That pitch is nasty

  149. Ivan says:

    Tex isnt the greatest breaking ball hitter in the world.

  150. Greg says:

    TO be fair to Tex that was nasty.

  151. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Weaver is straight balling…at least the Red Sox already lost again.

  152. David N says:

    Strikeouts. Better than double plays, but that’s about it.

  153. Vocabularry says:

    MVP my upper thigh

  154. Tom says:

    Teixera’s approach from the left side has just gone steadily downhill over the last few years…. he’s turned into an extreme pull, uppercut swing… which means 4 general outcomes when he makes contact… flyball HR, line drive down the line (or foul), popup/shallow fly to the left side, groundball to the right side.

    He now has zero power to left and centerfield hitting lefty and just 3-4 yearsagoe he would hit the ball to all fields from both the left and right sides of the plate (now he only does that right handed).

    • Greg says:

      Do you think that the only reason is the short porch? Or is there something else.

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        He had the short porch in 2009 so I hope it isn’t the case.

      • Tom says:

        Not sure…

        Most guys tend to pull the ball more and more as they get older, so it might not just be a Yankee stadium effect.

        But 4 hits to LF batting lefty all year shows a completely horrendous approach at the plate and is not someone who should be hitting 3rd against righty starters.

    • BK2ATL says:

      He’s nowhere near the hitter he was when he played in Tex, Atl or LAA.

      Completely different approach in his at bats. Solely swinging for the fences to pull, rather than line drives all over the field.

      The power numbers look good, but completely inconsistent production through the last 2 seasons, and the averages show this.

  155. Dela G says:

    holy shit he didn’t look out to me…

  156. FIPster Doofus says:

    Fantastic.

  157. Xstar7 says:

    A-Rod’s still got that laser arm.

  158. ItsATarp says:

    Weaver is good at this pitching thing

  159. JT says:

    eh, that wasnt a strike but weaver is going to get those calls the way he’s been around the zone.

  160. Dela G says:

    yikes he hit his nuts there

  161. Greg says:

    Weaver is on a roll.

  162. Cy Pettitte says:

    10 K’s for Weaver, wow.

  163. JobaWockeeZ says:

    I hope the Angels don’t make it to the postseason. Weaver, Haren and Santana is death.

    • Ivan says:

      Stop wit the whole “I hope we dont face this team” crap. Does it really matter. Its the postseason, the teams suppose to have really good players, but guess what, you think they wanna face the Yankees too?

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        Sorry for my opinion not being the Yankees will go 11-0 in the postseason. I thought the purpose of a blog was to express your opinion whatever it may be but whatevs.

        • Mister Delaware says:

          Didn’t you predict X-3 or X-5?

          • JobaWockeeZ says:

            Wait, what?

            • Mister Delaware says:

              You mocked a groupthink opinion of the Yanks being unbeatable right after predicting a “death” (hence the 3 or 5 losses, X being the wins you’d grant them). Your polar comment was called and you responded by mocking the opposite polar.

        • Ivan says:

          Yeah but im saying that every team has a couple of those “OMG, dont wanna face em” type of players.

          We have seen way too many postseason games to think that pretty much anything can happen.

        • Pat D says:

          I think there is too much “no one wants to play this team” crap thrown out this time of year.

          Someone brought this up in KLaw’s chat yesterday about how “no one” wants to face either the Braves, Brewers or D’backs right now, so then everyone wants to face the Phillies?

          It’s just repetitive nonsense.

    • Tyrion Lannister says:

      That’s why we need to win the series and help knock them out. Texas won today, and we need to push another run across the board. Close low scoring ballgames favor the Angels though as they’re better at playing small ball and moving runners over.

  164. Monteroisdinero says:

    This is a post-season type game where great pitching shuts down great hitting.

    /bullpen decides

  165. Pat D says:

    Seeing Lincecum with all that hair just reminds me of how he’ll never be a Yankee.

  166. Dela G says:

    my god that 2 seamer is SICK

  167. Monteroisdinero says:

    Bart is the best 900K we will spend until Montero has earned 900K by 2013.

  168. Dela G says:

    that’s one hell of a bunt, folks

  169. Tophitter says:

    Wow Michael Kay got married, I hope he tells us about it at some point

  170. Cy Pettitte says:

    f this small ball bullshit

  171. Pat D says:

    Angel Baseball (TM)

  172. FIPster Doofus says:

    Oh, fuck off with that bunting garbage.

  173. Monteroisdinero says:

    There’s something Gardy could practice.

  174. Tyrion Lannister says:

    If Brett Gardner could do that we’d have an unbeatable lineup.

  175. pete says:

    that was fucking beautiful.

  176. FIPster Doofus says:

    Love you, Bart.

  177. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Bart is good at baseball.

  178. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Strong outing from Bartolo. Now win this damn game.

  179. Tyrion Lannister says:

    And Colon will give way to Robertson. Colon really should be in line for the W here if it weren’t for Jeter’s error. Derek owes Bartolo a couple dinners.

  180. Mariano's Pimp Hand says:

    Standing O for Bart, here in my cubicle.

  181. Hall and Nokes says:

    Nasty pitches are being thrown tonight.

  182. Monteroisdinero says:

    Ok-a walk now by Montero would be second only to a HR. Plate discipline.

  183. Tom says:

    So with a 6 man rotation is it really necessary to pull pitchers not named CC before they hit the mythical 100 pitch mark where their arms potentially fall off?

  184. Xstar7 says:

    Jesus gets robbed again. Both of his outs have been hit hard.

  185. David N says:

    Jesus with the BABIP-fail….

    *Sigh*

  186. Monteroisdinero says:

    Why doesn’t Brett try to lay one down? He can’t hit Weaver.

  187. Jetrer says:

    uhh, I really wouldn’t mind Bart getting another inning here

  188. Xstar7 says:

    Colon should have had a shutout. (everyone in room stares at Jeter)

  189. David N says:

    Come on Derek, make up for the error.

  190. LiterallyFigurative says:

    Outside of Jesus, noone is making solid contact.

  191. JohnnyC says:

    Gardner eschews the bunt once again. OBP should be his mantra.

  192. FIPster Doofus says:

    Please, Grandy, park one. Get Bart the win.

  193. Xstar7 says:

    That single by Jeter makes up for his error in the fifth inning.

    Oh wait, it doesn’t.

  194. thaaaaaaaaaaaayankeeswin says:

    Grandy is so due right now

  195. David N says:

    Please do something, Grandy.

  196. Dela G says:

    that changeup is fucking filth. straight up filth

  197. LiterallyFigurative says:

    C’mon Grandy, snap out of it

  198. Ivan says:

    Granderson hit a Homer!!!!

  199. JohnnyC says:

    I like how Sciosia sets up a little cubicle for himself in the corner of the dugout. Secretly, he always wanted to be an office worker.

  200. Dela G says:

    boy granderson can’t buy a hit

    ugh

  201. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Fucking.

  202. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    No win for Bart :(

  203. Xstar7 says:

    Yankees get BABIP fucked…….AGAIN

  204. ItsATarp says:

    More BABIP

  205. Greg says:

    THe offense is just in a collective slump right now.

  206. Vocabularry says:

    I have an idea–let’s put Gitty, Gutty, disGraceful Brett Gardner at the top of the line-up instead of a Hall of Famer

  207. JT says:

    Damn it…

    good defense by the Angels + the suckery of Gardner = bad omen

  208. LiterallyFigurative says:

    Now for Girardi to turn to…..THE BINDER!!!

  209. Dela G says:

    crazy, i always thought walden was left handed

  210. David N says:

    Hooray, Weaver’s done.

  211. Monteroisdinero says:

    Soon we will need to bat our 2 best hitters in the first inning to maximize ab’s.

    Who else other than Montero?

  212. teddy says:

    with any luck, yanks should be up 3 to 1, but weaver was very good tonight

  213. JT says:

    uhh… Jesus Montero should appear on that list twice

  214. Jorge says:

    I love watching David Robertson get better every year. Something tells me we’re going to be seeing him at the end of games for a very long time to come. What a joy to watch.

  215. Tom says:

    FYI – MLB Network showing the game now for folks like me who don’t have YES

  216. Dela G says:

    boy, trumbo does not walk AT ALL. I read that he currently has more homers than walks…. yeesh

  217. bonestock94 says:

    Mike said it somewhere, Walden is due for a meltdown.

  218. Dela G says:

    wow that didnt look like a strike

    i’ll take it

  219. Kibbitty says:

    Cano will win us this game.

  220. Jesse says:

    Michael Kay did not say Robertson should be a starter, please tell me he didn’t say that.

  221. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Excellent frame.

  222. thaaaaaaaaaaaayankeeswin says:

    D mutha fucking ROB

  223. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    I’d love to see ARod turn around one of Walden’s 98 mph fastballs for a game winning homer.

  224. Manny says:

    To all those losers (yes losers cause you lost) who wanted Joba to start and argued about how innings from a starter were more valuable….

    Why not also argue that David Robertson should be starting?

  225. Monteroisdinero says:

    Wonder if Montero has ever played a game (or even been to) California before?

  226. Monteroisdinero says:

    And Tex swings at ball 4.

  227. Dela G says:

    Hey mike (or anyone else with knowledge), quick question. Are there any flamethrowers (pitchers who consistently hit 96+) very close to making the big leagues for the yanks out the bullpen?

  228. thaaaaaaaaaaaayankeeswin says:

    I would really hate to see another opportunity lost to gain on the reeling red sox because of bad defense

  229. Tom says:

    Another feeble lefthanded bat for Tex… granted Walden throws hard but he couldn’t even get a good swing on a 2-1 fastball right down the middle.

  230. Cy Pettitte says:

    Scoscia face’d

  231. Jorge says:

    Scoscia with the “are you fucking kidding me?” face.

  232. jon says:

    according to fangraphs

    robertsons best pitch is his changeup

    mind blown

  233. Dela G says:

    A-rod has some patience to sit on 99 slightly outside the black

  234. Kibbitty says:

    Cano will win us the game!

  235. JohnnyC says:

    Cano to the rescue.

  236. jon says:

    i do not like this idea at all

  237. Justin says:

    Mike Scioscia’s “confused” look reminds me a lot of Tom Coughlin when the Giants make stupid mistakes.

  238. JT says:

    … I just hope Nunez’s defense isn’t going to hurt us

  239. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    If Nunez is PRing he better steal.

  240. Tom says:

    Pinch running in a tie game? If he’s not stealing this is a dumb move (it’s not like ARod is slow)

  241. justsayin says:

    is it me, or is the halo on the cap a little gay?

  242. David N says:

    Okay Robbie, make something happen.

  243. dkidd says:

    imagine how exhausted the yankees must be. gonna be a brutal month

  244. ItsATarp says:

    Now we can watch Nunez play defense

  245. ant says:

    My My Mike Scioscia face My Mike Scioscia face

  246. thaaaaaaaaaaaayankeeswin says:

    so we just took out a guy with the career numbers at this ballpark in A rod for a guy who will not steal and have a game changing error in the bottom of the ninth?

  247. Tom says:

    When did the Angels trade for Papelbon?

    /pitchthedamnball

  248. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Do something with it, Jordan.

  249. Kibbitty says:

    Jesus Christ he’s not Rickey Henderson…

  250. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Fuck.

  251. thaaaaaaaaaaaayankeeswin says:

    1 out of 12 caught steeling, yet there sits Nuni on first

  252. The Big City of Dreams says:

    Shit

  253. Jetrer says:

    well that worked well

  254. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    PR fail…

  255. ItsATarp says:

    Nunez still completely Useless

  256. bonestock94 says:

    Oh crap

  257. Tyrion Lannister says:

    He was a dead duck. Girardi’s an idiot. You don’t out small ball the Angels.

  258. David N says:

    WTF?????????????????????????

  259. mbonzo says:

    Words can’t describe how much I want Nunez traded this offseason.

  260. Greg says:

    Cant blame Nunez for that.

  261. dkidd says:

    can mike napoli do that?

    can he???

    /defensive scioscia’d

  262. wow says:

    robbie swinging at crap

  263. Monteroisdinero says:

    Very close play on a pitchout. Not upset at Noonie. It wasn’t the 3rd out.

  264. thaaaaaaaaaaaayankeeswin says:

    lol of course leave it to the Yankees to increase the percentage. this guy was 1 out of 11 caught steeling!

  265. Kibbitty says:

    Cano will….win….ahh sh*t…

  266. teddy says:

    another sloppy game by the yanks

  267. JohnnyC says:

    Boy, I guess amphetamines actually helped.

  268. ItsATarp says:

    Now we have to pray no one hits anything to the left side of the infield

  269. Widget says:

    Of course that just happened. Another 1 run lose coming up. Playoff spot locked down blah blah, but damn if it isn’t frustrating to see that crappy record in 1 run games.

  270. Jorge says:

    Once again, I will reach for my phone at some time early in the morning and either be awfully happy or awfully pissed.

  271. Cy Pettitte says:

    Laffey in the game, lol Girardi ready to wave the white flag

  272. LiterallyFigurative says:

    0-2 just screams pitchout

  273. swishers fauxhawk says:

    White flag.

  274. Skye says:

    Aaron Laffey? This is not going to end well for us.

  275. teddy says:

    laffey giradri throwing in the towel

  276. dkidd says:

    nunez reminds me of the actor cliff curtis

    his nose, not the sucking at baseball thing

  277. ItsATarp says:

    Noesi is dead or something?

  278. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Why not put Chavez at 3rd? I’m getting so tired of Eduamiro Penunez…

  279. Tyrion Lannister says:

    Laffey in, Angels win. Mo was the right choice here. BUT YOU DON’T BRING YOUR CLOSER IN TO A TIE GAME ON THE ROAD! You do if you’re smart.

  280. Jetrer says:

    Laffey???? wtf

  281. JT says:

    Pena wasn’t any good the last time he was up in the bigs either

  282. Jorge says:

    Laffey in the 9th. Pena at third. Lull them into a fall sense of security, then WHAMMO.

  283. Tom says:

    Aaron Laffey?

    Another game where Mo will never pitch as Girardi waits for the save opportunity to arrive.

    Girardi in full robot mode tonight.

  284. justsayin says:

    the yanks are not taking advantage of the red sox falling apart…meanwhile the Phillies marched into Milwaukee and have destroyed the team with the second best record in the national league and the best record at home in baseball two straight games. meanwhile the yanks sloppy defense and stagnant offense has lost them 2 straight against Baltimore and will ultimately cost them this game. they should be up 4 and half against the sox right now. at least Pena is at third instead of Nuni, but A Rods bat is gone

  285. Monteroisdinero says:

    No confidence in Laffey. Hoping to be surprised. It’s a shame that a team like ours has to have this game depend on Laffey.

  286. Total Dominication says:

    Where is any other reliever?

  287. Matt says:

    I hate pinch running there. It doesn’t make much sense in a tie game like this in which A-Rod may ultimately play a deciding role on defense or offense, and especially with just 1 out in the inning. A-Rod is not slow, and you put a ton of pressure on your hitters to score against a tough pitcher.

    And to top it all off, Nunez ran in about the worst spot imaginable there, pretty much taking away any advantage from him being on the bases.

    • Jetrer says:

      I think the idea was that the bullpen is short, so Joe was trying to pull out the stops to try to get a run there and go to Mo
      I don’t have a problem with it except that Nunez picked the wrong pitch to go on

  288. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Chavez makes that play.

  289. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Pasta diving Ramiro.

  290. Cy Pettitte says:

    Joe “no more extra innings please” Girardi

  291. Nuke LaDoosh says:

    Pena froze. Took forever to respond.

  292. Guns of the Navarone says:

    The Angels are still so ANNOYING.

  293. mbonzo says:

    So…. how are Feliciano and Marte doing?

  294. Matt says:

    And I wonder if A-Rod might have had a chance at that play too, because he’s taller and more experienced at 3B at getting jumps on balls like that.

  295. Xstar7 says:

    Aaron Laffey is laughable.

  296. Kibbitty says:

    Ayala huh? That’ll do it. Sucks, I wanted to see Zeus hit again.

  297. ItsATarp says:

    I really hate Girardi

  298. dkidd says:

    not feeling good about this

  299. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Is Callaspo a switch hitter? he has to be, right?

  300. Jorge says:

    Remember, about 10 minutes ago, where everyone wanted to throw Nunez off a bridge? This is how I feel about the 2011 version of Ramiro Pena. He hasn’t even shown he can do the one thing we all thought he was good at this year.

  301. Greg says:

    You are all nitpickers of Girardi. You would criticize God if given the chance.

  302. justsayin says:

    Laffey tonight, Proctor last night…I get the team is tired but Girardi is just giving away these games. of course the angels will bunt or steal SUCCESSFULLY and win this game. VERY frustrating

    • Jorge says:

      Except Proctor was the right choice last night and Laffey gave up a ground ball to third which should have been an out.

      Now Ayala three days straight? Have at that one.

  303. Tyrion Lannister says:

    You’re going to see the game decided by the managers here. One is playing to win, the other is not playing at all.

  304. Monteroisdinero says:

    Joe standing next to his beloved binder. I’d love to hide it from him for a week.

    DFA Laffey and bat Montero 3rd. Screw the binder.

  305. jon says:

    look on the bright side

    it wont be an extra inning loss

  306. Vocabularry says:

    The Curtis Granderson—-
    More strikeouts than hits.
    More strikeouts than games played.

  307. Total Dominication says:

    Too many innings.

  308. Matt says:

    Why is Laffey even in this game? Girardi has a ton of guys down there who are both better and more worth a look than Laffey. While Callaspo is a better hitter from the left side, it’s not a big difference.

    • Tom says:

      Yeah Mo would have been the wrong call…

      Laffey against a switchhitter, Ayala 3rd day in a row…. pitchouts to get behind in the count….

      Hi my name is Joe Girardi and I like to manage for the sake of managing!

  309. NHYankeesFan says:

    Im ready for this Laffey experiment to end

  310. Greg says:

    Wah Wah He’s not managing the way I want to manage wah wah

  311. mbonzo says:

    This stupid best team in the American League sucks.

  312. Dela G says:

    welp this game is over

  313. V says:

    Well, that’s the ball game.

  314. David N says:

    Oh man….

  315. Cy Pettitte says:

    lol this game is over. nice punt Joe.

  316. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    This sucks.

  317. Total Dominication says:

    fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

  318. BK2ATL says:

    Baltimore West…..

  319. Xstar7 says:

    /no doubles defense’d

  320. JT says:

    Pena is worthless… read the damn scouting reports

  321. ItsATarp says:

    I am completely shocked that moves by Girardi has failed

  322. Monteroisdinero says:

    Hate losing west coast night games. Keep the binder under your pillow Joe.

  323. pop up teixeira says:

    and this game will now be over

  324. teddy says:

    really giradri

  325. jon says:

    i so want a suicide squeeze

  326. Greg says:

    Wah Wah I hate my manager even though he won a World Series and was a manager of the year with the Marlins wah wah

  327. Matt says:

    Pena got a terrible break on that ball. Another play that you wonder whether A-Rod may have had at least a chance of knocking it down and keeping the runner at 2B.

    Girardi not only overmanages, but he makes completely illogical moves in the process. If you were trying so hard to win this game that you were going to PR for A-Rod, then why are you bringing in a garbage pitcher like Laffey, instead of someone at least with some potential like Betances?

    Once again, going through the September motions, contradicting himself when he’s unsure of whether to rest or work his guys.

    • ItsATarp says:

      I agree. Girardi is a moron

    • Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

      No way you bring in Betances in a spot like this.

      • Matt says:

        Yeah, no reason to bring in Betances, but of course it makes sense to bring in Laffey?

        Laffey, who may be one of the worst pitchers on the roster right now, who the Angels have seen already a ton this year while he was on Seattle, who has little hope of retiring even the weakest of hitters?

        Yeah, let’s just punt the game and make the excuse that the bullpen is tired, while perfectly viable options are sitting on the bench.

        What better spot to bring him in than this supposedly “meaningless” September game, in which he is facing one of the worst lineups in MLB and the bottom of said order?

        • Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

          Cause he has no margin for error. You don’t have ANYONE make their MLB debut in a tie game in the 9th inning on the road. The reason that the scrubs cane in this game is because it was a meaningless game.

        • Jetrer says:

          perfectly viable options??? Names please. Noesi, Soriano, Logan, Wade, all unavailable. All that’s left is rookie making MLB debut or Laffey/Ayala garbage. There were no good choices. That’s why he pinch ran in the ninth, trying to take the lead so he could use Mo instead facing the choice of rookie debut or garbage.

          • Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

            Exactly. The only mistake he made was letting Nunez go on an 0-2 obvious pitchout count. He should have gone on the first pitch.

    • Xstar7 says:

      Everybody makes mistakes, everybody has those days.

      Yeah, I went there.

    • Jetrer says:

      seriously, have you watched ARod play the field lately. There is no chance he makes that play unless he was positioned 5 feet closer to where the ball ended up. The pinch-running was trying hard to win the game in the NINTH so that he could go to MO and not have to use the garbage that was all that was left available in the bullpen.

    • JohnnyC says:

      This team isn’t good enough to beat Jared Weaver (or the Orioles’ bullpen) with half-assed measures. Being tired is a reasonable excuse but Girardi’s got to get off the fence. Either go all in or don’t. If losing these games means nothing, then don’t pinch run for ARod, don’t throw Robertson, don’t start Martin, etc., etc., etc. I’m sure Sciosia won’t be offended.

  328. mbonzo says:

    I was Girardi would risk his relievers health in October for tonight’s non-significant win.

  329. justsayin says:

    game over another golden opportunity lost. The Yanks will Play Boston for the Division and lose because of this stretch of shitty d, horrible hitting and a idiot manager

  330. Jorge says:

    This is the moment you leave right before the crowds do in order to beat them. Good night.

  331. Cy Pettitte says:

    lol Ayala is so bad.

  332. V says:

    … 1-2 count, hit the guy. Oy.

  333. mt says:

    Prolonging the agony here.

  334. dkidd says:

    what’s better for the team tonight: a 9 inning loss or a 16 inning win?

  335. Tom says:

    Is Girardi the only manager in baseball whose gets worse when the rosters expand?

    It’s almost like he’s got too many options and he thinks I can make all sorts of moves!

  336. Cy Pettitte says:

    bet you Ayala walks the winning run in.

  337. Gabe says:

    He’s gonna walk in the run…

  338. LiterallyFigurative says:

    Even with the anti-Girardi sentiment on here (some from me included), the offense in the latter innings has looked absolutely gah-bauge lately.

  339. Tyrion Lannister says:

    I think Girardi is just looking at the Red Sox scores and saying we can throw this game and try tomorrow. Problem is if the starter gets roughed up or we can’t hit their starter tomorrow you might not be in a position like this to win the ballgame. Girardi’s an idiot.

  340. ItsATarp says:

    I want Girardi fired after this atrocity..No joke. Stupid moves after stupid moves.

    • mbonzo says:

      So you’d risk your relievers health for a game that will have no impact for the team? Simply put, the Angels put a better team out there tonight.

      • ItsATarp says:

        Noesi must has been tired after not pitching. Pinch running for Arod, is obviously the smart thing to do. Using bad pitchers in close games is a must. I’m not asking Mo to pitch 9 innings, but we have better options in the pen than a terrible Laffey and a Not-as-good-as -his-ERA Ayala. D-rob throws 13 cesspits, so he obviously can’t go further. Neither could Colon after hitting that invisible 100 pitch wall.

        • Jetrer says:

          Noesi pitched Tues and Wed, with multiple innings on Wed. DRob has been used a ton recently, no need to push him for 2. Wade and Logan were likely unavailable as well.
          I do agree on Colon though. With the short bullpen and a tie game, Joe could have tried to get another inning out of him.

        • mbonzo says:

          The bullpen is spent, and this game means nothing. There is no reason to put anyone good out there, and out of all the options Girardi had, Ayala and Laffey have the most experience and best numbers v. their matchups. Noesi has blown his share of games, I think I remember one fairly recently, Wednesday.

          • ItsATarp says:

            On a booted Groundball by Nunez…all Noesi’s fault? Laffey and Ayala’s numbers are not good. I rather we use Noesi and lose and say okay, we tried to use our best available reliever (out of mo), than use our worst ones.

            • mbonzo says:

              So you blame Laffey for the groundball past Pena, but the groundball Wednesday was Nunez’ fault. Sometimes things just don’t go your way, and the Yankees have the ability to combat that with stellar talent, but its not worth it at this point in the season.

    • Greg says:

      Waaaaaaaaaaaah

  341. Tom says:

    Another game “Girardi’d”

  342. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    sigh…

  343. teddy says:

    now watch roberston not be able to pitch tommorrow

  344. Jesse says:

    God, these one run losses in extra innings are really getting on my nerves. Thank God the AL East lead is 2.5 games.

  345. JT says:

    /small ball’d

  346. Kibbitty says:

    Stats aside, no one scares me more coming into the game than Ayala.

  347. David N says:

    I know it’s not a big deal in the scheme of things, but damn is this sort of loss infuriating.

  348. Gonzo says:

    Damn. I wanted Mathis up there because he contributes to 27 outs a game, or so I am told.

  349. BK2ATL says:

    No further comment, other than have a great night, all!!!

  350. wow says:

    so tired of these one run games…

  351. Widget says:

    Hey at least the Angels aren’t making the playoffs. Suck on that Rally Monkey.

  352. dkidd says:

    suddenly the rangers don’t seem quite so annoying

  353. Greg says:

    Wah I hate my manager wah.

    I thought I was bad, but you all are awful.

    You are all like the fans who write threatening letters to Don Dekinger and Steve Bartman.

  354. Mister Delaware says:

    I imagine 0-3 with a run differential of -3 isn’t all that common.

  355. FIPster Doofus says:

    The last three games have taken, what, 10 hours? Can we have all of those back?

  356. justsayin says:

    no faith in this team.

  357. blue balls says:

    who really gives a shit??? montero hit a homerun – thats awesome! we still go to the playoffs! hurray!

  358. ItsATarp says:

    Girardi has trouble managing a 100 win team. No seriously, this team is talented enough to win 100 games with a monkey at the wheel.

    • mbonzo says:

      I don’t give a shit if they win 100 games, just win in October. Girardi is making sure this team doesn’t turn in to the Red Sox with half our pitchers injured.

      • ItsATarp says:

        I prefer we try winning winnable games than throw em out.

      • Matt says:

        Except he is burning through his bullpen like every game is do or die. He’s had Rivera throw in games twice in the last few weeks after he’s had outings of nearly 30 pitches. Wade and Logan had thrown in 3 of 4 games recently. Robertson was left in to throw over 30 pitches in a 2 inning save.

        He’s gone to some of his pitchers for only 1 or 2 batters, and then thrown the entire set up corps in games in which they have had 2 or 3 run leads.

        The Red Sox pitchers are not injured because of overuse, but simply bad luck. Girardi, just like last season, can’t decide whether he wants to play for the division or the wild card. Just like last season, his mistakes in overworking the pen are costing him many close games down the stretch.

        • ItsATarp says:

          exactly. At times he plays like the games are must wins, then decides to take a game off or something. Very annoying.

        • Jetrer says:

          You complain that Laffey pitches and complain that the Yankee good relievers are overworked. Laffey is pitching only because he is giving his good relievers rest (Soriano, Wade, not pushing DRob for 2 innings. That he is refusing to overwork his relievers is the reason there are games where garbage like Laffey has to pitch.

          • Matt says:

            Girardi is giving these guys “rest” only because he is basically forced to because of how badly he overworked them in the last few weeks.

            If Girardi handled his bullpen properly, he would have probably had both the wins and the arms available.

            It’s not just about giving guys rest, but doing it in a way which does not affect your team’s ability to win games. Girardi is having to sit down guys like Robertson because he was bringing them in to pitch in 3-4 run games and throwing 25+ pitches.

            • Jetrer says:

              he’s giving him the same rest he always does. Its only because they have played a lot of close games lately with no off days that pitcher’s being unavailable is noticed. You wouldn’t expect to have all of these close games, and when was the last time DRob threw 25+ pitches in a 4 inning game. Because of the close games, they are getting to limits of how often he uses them, but he hasn’t used them more than before. Nobody has been overworked, he’s done a good job of not abusing anyone despite all of the close games.

              • Jetrer says:

                *4 run game
                and when was the last time DRob even pitched in a game with at least a 3 run lead
                8/28 and he only pitched that day because he needed the work after 3 days off and pitching once in the past week

    • C says:

      Don’t blame Girardi, blame the offense. 3 hits in the last 15 innings? Doesn’t matter who’s managing if you hit like that.

    • Greg says:

      WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

  359. David N says:

    Was Wade not available or something? I know he pitched yesterday, but he had a day off before that, and I trust him a whole lot more than anyone else in the pen outside of Robertson and Mo.

  360. your mom says:

    Three 1 run losses in a row suck. At least Montero, Colon and Robertson showed up tonight. The other guys are lost.

  361. Pat D says:

    Doesn’t matter what moves Girardi made or not, you’re not going to win when you score one run.

    End. Of. Story.

  362. Monteroisdinero says:

    So exasperating. Don’t worry everyone. Joe will start Posada over Montero tomorrow night and he will have a good reason!

    PS: Aaron Laffey is not a major league pitcher.

  363. Hall and Nokes says:

    Girardi to Texas: Drop Dead

  364. stuart a says:

    girardi is an idiot.

    pinch run for arod but nunez does not run early in the count. btw I said it before he got thrown out. if you bring in a pinch runner you have to run ealry in the count off a guy who they have thrown out only 1 guy all year off.

    then the laffey move. calaspo has a higher avg fro mthe right side, his power differential is meaningless the guy has 5 homers all year. when the next 2 hitters are righties. so in esswence he brought in a lesser boone logan to pitch to 1 guy from the guys stronger side….

    the logic is?????????????????????????

    why not try Kontos or another young guy? you really expect laffey or Ayala to do anything positive????no friggin chance…….

    girardi got outmanaged by scioscia for a change, what a shocker……..

    • mbonzo says:

      Laffey had success against lefties and experience with the Angels. The young guys need to earn there way into spots like that.

      • Mike Axisa says:

        Yeah really, Laffey didn’t exactly give up a booming hit off the wall. It was a ground ball through the infield.

      • Matt says:

        Except Laffey wasn’t facing a lefty, and it’s not a good thing for teams to have seen him, because he is terrible and doesn’t have any out pitches. BTW, Laffey vs. LAA this year:

        1.2 IP, 3 hits, 2 BB

        Not to say that this is an indicative sample size, but the Angels had no problems handling him when they saw him, and given his track record and ability level, no reason to suggest they wouldn’t here.

        • Mike Axisa says:

          Laffey was facing a switch hitter that’s been worse against lefties, and it was a dinky ground ball through the infield. The problem was the offense.

        • Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

          He was facing a switch hitter who was worse from the right side. Logan has sucked balls lately, it’s a meaningless game, get over it. Any rest the bullpen gets at this point is good. Girardi’s mistake was not sending Nunez on the first pitch.

          • Matt says:

            He can rest the bullpen by throwing any one of his other call ups in there. Why are these guys on the roster if you never plan to use them?

            It’s not a meaningless game. If you lock up a playoff spot early, you can rest these guys properly. If you do this inbetween thing and don’t, like last season, then you have to push Phil Hughes over his innings cap just to ensure an easy last week. Look at how his high work load affected him at the beginning of this season.

            These decisions don’t take place in a vacuum. Girardi is not resting his players, nor is he winning the games to make up for it. He’s burnt through his bullpen, just like last season, and is losing games that could allow him to wrap up a playoff spot early and prepare his team for October.

            • Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

              “He can rest the bullpen by throwing any one of his other call ups in there. Why are these guys on the roster if you never plan to use them?”

              You don’t have some kid make his MLB debut in the 9th inning of a tie game on the road.

              “It’s not a meaningless game. If you lock up a playoff spot early, you can rest these guys properly.”

              They have all but mathematically locked up a playoff start.

              • Matt says:

                The Mets had all but locked up a playoff spot in 2007 as well. How did that work out for them?

                You can’t sit half your lineup every night when you haven’t clinched. You simply can’t afford to risk even that remote chance of making the last week of games meaningful right before the postseason, or even missing it.

                These games are interconnected, and it isn’t just about tonight. Girardi’s inability to properly leverage his bullpen arms has led him to burn out many of his key pitchers, and have them unavailable in more useful spots like tonight.

                Second, if you care so little about this game that you are willing to throw Laffey in the first place, then what do you have to lose from throwing ANYBODY else? Having Cervelli come in to pitch is going to get him creamed by the media and may lose him the game, but it does just as good a job of resting the pen.

                Your posts are entirely contradictory. If the game is “meaningless” as you say, then it shouldn’t matter whether the guy comes in to make his debut in a blowout or a close game. If there is enough meaning to put pressure on him in that spot, then the game matters more than you are willing to admit.

      • Tom says:

        Laffey is so good he was DFA’d by Seattle.

        Corey Wade (a righty) has better splits ve lefties… yet that didn’t stop Girardi from bringing in Laffey yesterday and Wade one batter later.

        Girardi is a slave to the lefty lefty matchup and apparently doesn’t realize the quality of the pitcher matters.

        Would Girardi bring in Laffey if a left leadoff to get an out before bringing Mariano in? Not saying some of these other guys are Mo, but Girardi is treating Laffey like he’s the same quality as everyone not name Mo/Ro/So

        And using a Loogy for a switchitter is brain dead… you have to go with the better pitcher in that circumstance (esp if there’s not a lefty on deck where’d you want to keep a LOOGY in)….

  365. teddy says:

    hard to wins games when weaver pitches and every liners is caught and laa has 5 infield hits. jeter error, sending nunez and first pitchout were stupid

  366. Bartolo's Colon says:

    That was weak, but the offense sucked, jeter muffed an easy play, and girardi pitches fuckin laffey against a switch hitter. I’m fine with him against a lefty but that was dumb, should have just brought in Ayala. Really hope the offense wakes up, horrible the last few games

  367. Tom says:

    On a serious, does Girardi only consider the hitter splits and the handedeness of the reliever when he makes move.

    It’s almost like the actual quality of the reliver is irrelevant…. last night he brought in Laffey to face a lefty and then brought Wade in for the next batter(Wade, even though he’s righty, is actually better than Laffey vs lefties)

    It’s almost like he simply looks at the hitter split and just autopilots his own relievers regardless of the quality of the reliever… basically anyone other than Mo, Robo and Sori are all one pool and platoon matchups dominates all else.

    Would you rather have laffey facing a righty tonight or Ayala against a lefty? Why make that move for Laffey for 1 damn batter (and a switchhitter) if you know you are pulling him after it…

  368. justsayin says:

    Mark this Greg…the Yanks WILL lose in the first round of the playoffs for all the reasons seen in the last 3 games. You can call it insignificant or whatever, but the bottom line is this team has too many holes and even if by the grace of whatever miracle the baseball gods could conger up make it to the world series, the Phillies will sweep this team back into reality. Another great pitching performance was wasted tonight, but the Yanks will score 10 runs when AJ pitches only to have him give up 11. So they have the best record in the American league..by what, beating up crappy teams. Anyone in the National league will eat this team up…and even the red sox who look like crap right now, would come into Yankee stadium tomorrow and sweep the yanks.

  369. stuart a says:

    angels had 5 infield hits because the yankee left side cannot move..

    jeter has zero range and arod moves like a chair…………

  370. Matt says:

    Girardi continually contradicts himself as a manager, failing to both rest his players and get the wins.

    If you know that your best bullpen arms are overworked, and you have a starter who is pitching very well and only at 99 pitches, then it might make some sense to stretch him out a bit against a weak lineup?

    Nope, Girardi went straight to his primary set up man, when he knew that he had very few pitchers available to back him up. With the way that the offense has performed lately, and the fact that the Angels have some good set up guys, why are you playing for the win right away there?

    Girardi claims to be playing for the “big picture,” but he can’t even think of it within the games themselves. It’s not like Colon was having a mediocre start. Sometimes you need to “save arms” for later innings if you feel that the game may go deeper. Having guys like Wade and Logan throw to only 1 or 2 batters every night forces you to keep using these same set up arms because the offense is slumping.

    If you are going to rest, rest for real. Try some of your callups out in these spots to see what you have. Give some position players like Cano a blow. Make up your mind.

      • Matt says:

        Yes, because having an intelligent thought, versus acting like a child and posting the same thing in response to anyone’s criticism, makes you so much more credible?

        You may want to think about who just made the bigger fool of themselves on this thread before you copy and paste that into another pointless response.

    • Jetrer says:

      You can rest guys and try to win in the same game. The Yankees have enough depth that they can win games without having everybody available.
      I do agree on Colon though.

      • Matt says:

        He can definitely win games while resting players, but he can’t make up his mind about when it’s worthwhile, and then ends up somewhere in the middle. With a 2 or 3 run lead, maybe he doesn’t HAVE to use Robertson. But he does, and then doesn’t have him available in a 1 run game. He gets him his “rest,” but not in the optimal spots.

        Does he really think that a guy like Wade cannot be trusted to pitch an additional inning in a 2 or 3 run game, to save his arms for higher leverage situations?

        When you try to make up for games like Wednesday by burning through the pen again, that only adds to the problem. Commit to a direction and stick with it. If you get the wins now, you can rest these guys later. If you rest these guys now, you can get the wins later. Doing this inbetween thing means he has both tired players, and fewer wins.

        For instance, give as many of the regulars as you can a full day off after 2 AM on Tuesday night. Don’t put the whole lineup back in, even though it’s a tie game! You still had enough guys in there to be capable of scoring the go ahead run. Pinch hit Cano in that spot, sure, but you don’t have to have him play in the field afterwards.

        • Jetrer says:

          It seems to me that he has decided every game is worthwhile to win, just not at the expense of the big picture. If a pitcher needs rest, he still going to try to win the game, just not with that pitcher. I’m not sure playing a few innings after playing a late game is really going to be detrimental. A 2 or even 3 run game is still relatively high leverage, if Wade, in your example, allowed a baserunner in that extra inning of work, DRob (or whoever, depending on the inning) would still have to get warmed up at least and perhaps come in anyways, so you may as well use him from the get go and don’t risk having to bring him into a jam. The situatiion has come to a head recently because they have had no off days and have played a ton of close games. It’s just an abnormal set of circumstances.
          He is picking a direction and sticking with it, trying to win games at the same time as giving guys rest. He has been using that approach all year, and they have the most wins in the AL because of it.

          • Matt says:

            Your last line demonstrates why I have trouble taking most of the posters of this blog seriously.

            I get attacked for suggesting that Girardi’s strategical mistakes have any impact on the game, because the players still failed.

            Yet, Girardi gets praise for having his team in first place and the most wins in the AL? It’s not because he has the most talented team in the AL as well?

            There is so much hypocrisy around here. What you described is exactly an inbetween strategy. “I want to win the games, but not at the expense of hurting my players.” It sounds like it’s the best of both worlds, but not really. Resting the whole team on one day, and then having those guys all available for the next 3 games may be more beneficial.

            • Xstar7 says:

              Girardi isn’t a horrible manager, but he’s not a good one either. I like how he keeps the bullpen arms fresh but not much else. The team’s success is mostly due to the team’s immense amount of talent. Most managers are either overrated because of their team’s success or deemed terrible because of the bad teams they’ve been put in charge of. Girardi seems to be somewhere in the middle.

            • Jetrer says:

              I pointed that out because YOU said that inbetween strategy results in fewer wins. I was merely pointing out that that is factually incorrect. They HAVE been able to win a lot of games despite the strategy you seem to have such a problem with. Sorry to bother you with facts. I know facts make it difficult for you to take posters seriously. And I never attacked you today. I merely pointed out that you can try to win and rest players at the same time. As far as your last paragraph, do you really think punting 1 out of 4 games would be a beneficial strategy??? Its comments like that that make nobody on this blog take you seriously.

            • Jetrer says:

              I’m not at all saying Girardi is a great manager because of the team’s record. I’m not even saying he’s a great manager. I’m saying his try to win by using depth while resting players strategy has not at all hurt the team overall.

  371. SevenAces says:

    No more Aaron fuggin Laffey please…

  372. stuart a says:

    no writer will aks girardi any questions about his choices late in the game…

    they will talk about jesus and colon.

    not 1 question on why griardi is a moron…………aaron laffey to trun callaspo around to his slightly stronger side…….

    nunez doing a gardner and not running early in th ecount.. classic stupidity. shocker called a pitch out on a 0 and 2 count.. what a suprise…….

  373. Vocabularry says:

    We’re scuffling a little right now with the bats–Pause for a drink of Poland Spring–replace the screw on cap.
    I have dyslexia–I saw Laffey on the gun and thought 89 was 98.

  374. John says:

    Tired of hearing everyone make excuses for Girardi — if he was looking @ the red sox results and punting this game why bring in Robertson in the 8th? Bringing in Laffey to pitch the 9th makes NO SENSE when he’s your worst reliever and and he’s pitching after your 2nd best reliever (whose inning count keeps climbing). Can someone please steal the binder and insert DFA next to Laffey’s name?

  375. Jesse says:

    Haha, Bob Lorenz said the Yankees offense has been stoned.

    /druggie’d

  376. blue balls says:

    girardi tries to be too cute with his decisions sometimes but who cares?????? the team is going to the playoffs – hurray!!!!!

  377. Sarah says:

    Oh look, the Yankees are still #1 in the division.

    Offense still looks a bit sluggish, but with the week they’ve had, I’m not surprised. Also, last time I checked, Weaver was a pretty good pitcher.

    Tomorrow is another day. Hopefully the guys get some sleep, some sun and come out swinging tomorrow.

  378. David N says:

    As frustrating as this loss was, I will admit that hearing Sterling try to do the postgame over the sound of fireworks does put a smile on my face.

  379. obligatory kennedy post says:

    does anyone else want ian kennedy back?

  380. stuart a says:

    callaspa has a higher BA from the right side Mike unless the angel announcers were qrong. they said it flat out on the angel telecast.

    no logic to have laffey in there for 1 batter who has a higher avg right then left.

    no EXCUSE. Even the #’s do not support it…….

    • JohnnyC says:

      You mean the binder was wrong?!!!!!

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Callaspo vs LHP: .283/.329/.348
      Callaspo vs RHP: .277/.366/.372

      The six stupid points of batting average is more than offset by the 37 points of OBP and the 24 points of SLG.

      • JohnnyC says:

        The real issue is that Laffey is just that…laughable. His stuff is underwhelming for a LOOGY: doesn’t throw hard and his breaking pitch is droopy not sharp. Why don’t we give Valdes a shot while we’re playing meaningless games?

      • Tom says:

        Mike – you need to look at the quality of the pitcher too… you are treating the decision as if the only variable is the hitter (which is Girardi’s fail)

        If the pitchers are of equal quality then you look soley at hitter splits but Laffey is not the same quality as the other relievers in the pen.

        Girardi did the same thing yesterday… he brought in Laffey to get a lefty in front of Corey Wade… make sense right?

        Any guesses on who gets lefties out better (hint: the answer isn’t Laffey)

      • Tom says:

        Mike….

        Look at Laffey vs righties and Ayala vs lefties…

        Laffey vs righty: .928 OPS against
        Ayala vs lefty: .726 OPS against

        So you’d rather have the hitter split of 61 OPS poiints compared to the delta above?

        Call me crazy but I’d rather have the clearly better pitcher against the hitter from a marginally stronger side…

  381. stuart a says:

    gardner is almost down to 250. he has not done anything in minimum 2 weeks. 1 homer when the yanks were up.

    so the yanks will continue to put luis ayaala out there in tight games the fake wanting to win instead of seeing in Kontos or others have anything to show at the big league level.

    aaron laffey for 1 batter, a switch hitter who hits for a higher avg from the right side, absolutely amateur hour…………..

    • Will says:

      Brett Gardner doesn’t hit enough to be the Yankees starting left fielder. He has no power and doesn’t drive the ball. I can’t even count on him for a single. He’s become an automatic out.

    • Jetrer says:

      Gardner in September this year (granted not counting today)
      1.088 OPS, .500 wOBA, 221 wRC+
      yeah, he hasn’t done a thing in 2 weeks
      and the switch-hitter to which you refer makes a lot more outs against lefties, the goal there was an out

  382. bonestock94 says:

    Looks like they’re doing the same “we don’t care if we win the division” thing they did last year. I remember being infuriated when they brought in Mitre to a close game vs. the Rays last season.

    • JohnnyC says:

      Last year the excuse was all the injuries. This year it’s the lack of off-days with a west coast trip sandwiched in. It’s always something if the current system isn’t changed where there’s no real penalty for being the WC team.

  383. Pat D says:

    This site really goes batshit insane with every loss.

    You know, I think I’ll take off tomorrow. After all, I’ve got three things to watch at 9 tomorrow, so I can’t be bothered to post here with a group that gets collectively crazier by the day.

    • Vocabularry says:

      three things to watch at 9? Sure you can fit all that in to your whirlwind of a schedule. And others are batshit insane? Funny you.

      • Pat D says:

        It’s called a DVR, for one thing.

        For another, two of those things are sporting events where it’s not necessary to watch every single second of both games.

        Yes, I am rather funny. Thank you for noticing. I’ll send you my fan club kit very shortly.

        • Vocabularry says:

          do you have perhaps a 50 percent off coupon on the membership kit? I bet you’re a downright riot at family get-togethers. The crazy Uncle Pat in the den while the turkey is getting cold, watching four football games, the parade, and a ping pong match from China—and the parents warning the toddlers to leave Pat be, because you never know when old Pat will go batshit

          • Pat D says:

            Hey, I just became an uncle for the first time! How’d you know? Are you spying on me? I’m very flattered, but I’m not ready for that level of committment.

            But, let’s not mince words here. You have a record, and it is broken. You just love to antagonize people. You do a so-so job at it.

            And with that said, O:S time.

        • Jesse says:

          May I ask what you’re watching?

  384. Will says:

    I’m over this loss already. You can’t expect a tired line-up to hit around a pitcher like Jered Weaver. As long as the Red Sox are losing/hurt all is fine in Yankeeland. Let’s just not lose too many now. Let’s get another winning streak going. Montero’s homer was amazing BTW. He’s making me drool about the thought of him in his hitting prime. Girardi needs to go the Mike Scoscia school of managing also. His managing has been attrocious, not that its ever been that great.

  385. special kid says:

    girardi makes mistakes like other humans if you cant deal with it then stop watching the games do you really need baseball that much you have to watch every game jesuschrist get a nother hobbyu

  386. special kid says:

    im talking to umbrella

  387. pogolou says:

    The whole idea is to learn from your mistakes so you do not repeat them. Girardi just repeated the same mistake that he made the other night against Baltimore by not using Mo.

    The problem is that Joe Girardi doesn’t realize that he is making a mistake. That makes this mistake a lot less ‘ok’ than the other night.

    Will he manage Rivera like that in the playoffs? Would you really be ok with the lowest man in the bullpen, whoever that might be in October, pitching that 9th inning rather than Mo? Would you think that is the right call?

    Of course this is not the main reason they lost tonight. But it definitely hurt their chances to win.

  388. special kid says:

    when i said tanks i mean it about people with squareish looking bodies like carmona for example montero is a tank

    i dont make childish comparisons anymore cuz im more mature now i take meds now

  389. freaks are out says:

    vocabularry, special kid, blue balls… the freaks are out tonight.

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