Snowy Saturday Open Thread


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A couple inches of snow isn’t bad, and in fact I actually heard the plow drive by a few times today. That’s a rarity here. The snow is a big slap in the face though, reminding us baseball fans that we’re still weeks away from anything remotely resembling meaningful baseball. On the other hand, it sure is bright and sunny down in Tampa. Pitchers and catchers are 29 days away…

(Photo via @Julie_Stone)

Categories : Open Thread


  1. statboy yankopherson says:

    snow = good. more time for crawford to heal so he can make sure the sox lead the league in k’s

  2. Griffey's Grotesquely Swollen Jaw says:

    “click to embiggen” = awesome. it is a perfectly cromulent word after all.

  3. Soriano Is A Liar says:

    Allow me to be the first to say: LOL SCUTARO

  4. Johnny says:

    It seems like the Red Sox keep getting weaker and the Yankees stronger this offseason. I don’t mean to jinx anything, but this season will pretty much be a piece of cake, right?

    • Steve H says:

      The move was likely to clear payroll and I’m pretty certain there will be a follow up move that will strengthen them. Plus they return a pretty damn good core.

      Remember, last year the Red Sox season was supposed to be a piece of cake.

      • Steve (different one) says:

        Agreed, they’ll prob sign Oswalt now. But….who is their SS? Pinto/aviles? I guess so. They traded Lowrie and now they trade Scutaro. They traded Reddick but now we know Kalish and Crawford had surgery? They traded all these guy to bolster their pen, because they are moving guys from the pen to the rotation….doesn’t it beg the question, why not just sign a starter?? Seems like they’ve moved a lot of their depth and there is a lot of risk moving their relievers to the rotation. Their moves are all ok in a vacuum, and I’m sure they’re not done, but I’m not seeing the master plan here.

      • Sweet Dick Willie says:

        Right. This allows them to sign Oswalt now.

        If he remains healthy and puts up his typical #’s, I believe they will be formidable in 2012.

        Not saying the Yanks aren’t better, but piece of cake? No way.

        • Monterowasdinero says:

          Saw Oswalt pitch against us in ST last year. One game, ST, means nothing I know but Grandy hit an unusual opposite field HR and Posada hit a double off the wall in Left center and Nunez, iirc, took him deep too. We ain’t afraid of no Oswalt.

    • Craig says:

      Cody Ross is most likely headed toward being a Red Sox(ck?). Clearly, they’re going for the pennant.

    • CJ says:

      Maybe they are after Hanley Ramirez

    • Craig Maduro says:

      Hm…you think its funny, but the Red Sox actually COULD be better than the Yankees on paper heading into the season. Nobody here will believe that, but its not a stretch.

      Offensively, there is no way you can say that the Yankees have a decidedly better lineup. You’re lying to yourself if you say otherwise.

      As far as pitching is concerned, the Yankees obviously appear to be in good shape while the Red Sox are trotting out some new arms. It’s not like a front four of Lester-Beckett-Aceves-Bard is anything to scoff at though. Shit, if the Yanks didn’t have what they do have, we would probably choose the Red Sox’ front four over that of most other teams in the league.

      It’s fun to laugh at the Sox when they suck, but let’s not get too carried away.

      • bexarama says:

        It’s not like a front four of Lester-Beckett-Aceves-Bard is anything to scoff at though.

        You forgot Buchholz, who makes your point much better than the two dudes who, you know, have never really started.

  5. JoeyA says:

    I know this will NEVER happen, especially with the new financial goals of the NYY, but it would be AWESOME if we signed Oswalt simply to screw the Sox.

    What the hell are they doing? This move is robbing Peter to pay Paul. Trade both your SS”s and sign a SP with constant back problems for a year, leaving your team with a platoon option for SS, no money, and still other holes to fill.

  6. Steve (different one) says:

    Just to be clear, the Sox just gave away a 3 WAR shortstop to save $6M. Seriously, I don’t get this at all.

    • Steve H says:

      Punto was worth 1.8 fWAR and 1.5 bWAR in significantly less playing time than Scutaro.

      I know Scutaro’s better, I just hate playing the WAR game. I hope the Red Sox don’t have another move coming, I hope they don’t get Oswalt, but I don’t want to analyze this trade in a vacuum quite yet.

  7. tony says:

    Is anyone else waiting to see when we will finally get Damon? He would be a perfect fit as the dh

    • nsalem says:

      I think the Yankees are seeking someone who also can fit there needs defensively. I think Damon is a safety option at this point. From strictly the fan in me it would be nice to see him back though.

      • tony says:

        I completely agree nsalem I think thats the main reason I want him back. But in Yankee Stadium I think he could still do some damage

        • nsalem says:

          Yes I think he would do quite well with the Yankee’s this year. Where he was a top of the order guy for the Rays he would be given a lot less attention at the bottom of the Yankee odrer.

    • Mike E says:

      I’m waiting for Gordon Beckham.

      • Craig Maduro says:

        Interesting. I was actually wondering about him earlier today. If I remember correctly the White Sox have Brent Morel and Dayan Viciedo manning 2B and 3B respectively. That would seem to make Beckham available and perhaps worth consideration.

    • Craig Maduro says:

      No, absolutely not waiting for Damon. I’ll be thoroughly pissed if the Yanks are forced to settle for Damon as their DH in 2012. He’s done. Stick a fork in him.

      • MannyGeee says:

        Damon’s noodle arms scares the shit out of me if he were in fact to get a glove on.

      • RetroRob says:

        He is? He had a 110 OPS+ for a quick league comparison, hit 16 HR playing half his games at the Trop, and stole 19 bases. Doesn’t sound done to me.

  8. tomaconda says:

    Anyone think James Loney would be an interesting platoon with Andruw?
    hits righties very well. Was a non tender candidate and makes around 7 mil I believe.

    • tony says:

      I also think Casey Kotchman would be a good fit. Hes a very good defensive player as well

      • nsalem says:

        Good point. Damon though could potentially supply more power than Kotchman. It’s a tough call. In the end I’m sure we will wind up with another productive bat before the start of the season. There are plenty of choices in the aging former star department who will wind up signing cheap. Though I don’t think I would want him back Abreu is still out there. Though a shell of his former self he was still a .350 OPB out there. I didn’t check his P/PA from last year but if it was still close to what it used to be a line up with Abreu, Gardner, Granderson and Swisher would give them 4 of the top 15 or so P/Pa guys in the league. I think having 3 of the top 11 or 12 last year plays some sort of factor in the Yankees great offensive. I have been told that P/Pa is not factored in WAR nbut I do think it has some kind of effect on outcome of games.

    • CJ says:

      He’s damaged goods with his arbitration salary decking production and car wreck.

  9. P says:

    Banuelos romaine and Hughes for wieters. Boom

  10. nsalem says:

    Perhaps Boston may not be a popular destination for free agents with a choice as might have been the case several years ago. The pressure will be on up there. No playoffs in 2 years and no playoff wins since 2008. Brand new GM and an intelligent but volatile manager.

  11. KenC says:

    We pray for Joe Paterno!

  12. your mom says:

    Yay Scutaro gone. That bastard hit us well last year. Didn’t realize he was Venezuelan.

  13. Gonzo says:



    This better not happen. I would be upset.

  14. CJ says:

    Prince fielder to Texas rumors continue yet I read Texas is operating at a deficit till 2015. The Yankees 2014 austerity budget precludes prince fielder but operating a club at a deficit does not?

  15. Eirias says:

    The Mets are “making a run at signing” free agent outfielder Cody Ross, reports ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick.

    For some reason, this sentence almost boggles my mind. It made my night. Cody Ross simply seems almost the antithesis of a player you would ever need to “make a run at” to sign, and that it is the Mets pursing him is so very, very apropos.

  16. Robert says:

    Joe Paterno has died.

  17. Michael Hairston says:

    Joe Paterno’s family spokesman just denied that Joe has died.

  18. ThatstheMelkyMesaWaysa says:

    Guys Joe Pa isn’t dead NBC and AP and ESPN are all saying serious condition. NBC just reported literally less than a minute ago that reports of his death were incorrect.

  19. Steve S. says:

    Since were posting fake news tonight

    NEWPORT BEACH, CA—After meeting with his agent Monday to discuss his free agency prospects, Prince Fielder told reporters he was left wondering if he or any man can ever say his agency is truly free.

    “Free agency suggests I am able to make a choice void of any constraint, but right from the get-go, that premise is problematic,” said Fielder, adding that it isn’t as if he can just get a job as an acoustical engineer, or even as a professional athlete in another sport.

    “In the end, I am not an autonomous entity who can choose a path based on multiple options. Instead, I am one link in a causal chain, so my actions are merely the inevitable product of lawful causes stemming from prior events. What I’m saying is, I’m essentially limited to the 30 baseball organizations in North America; realistic, long-term socioeconomic factors have already decided which cities can support a team that pays the kind of salary I demand; and roster decisions dating all the way back to the invention of the game have determined which teams are in need of a first baseman today—so there are only a few clubs that could logically take me. And human nature will compel me to pick the one that offers the best, highest salary.”

    Fielder concluded the press conference by saying that he is essentially a determinist, and that he enjoys hitting baseballs.

    A Determinist? I would have pegged him as Objectivist, no doubt.

  20. J. Scott says:

    Notwithstanding the many amusing aspects of the Mets present situation, I would still like to get my hands on Daniel Murphy. That guy is a tough out.

  21. Monterowasdinero says:

    So ARod on espn.com praises Pineda as having “3 plus pitches”. Can we now stop the 2 pitch pitcher nonsense?

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