Jul
09

Yankees tell Reggie Jackson to stay away from team indefinitely

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Via Buster Olney, the Yankees have told Reggie Jackson to stay away from the team until informed otherwise. Reggie made some disparaging comments about Alex Rodriguez and his past PED use — as well as others like the late Gary Carter and Kirby Puckett — to Sports Illustrated last week. He has spoken to A-Rod and apologized, but the team still asked him to stay away. Jackson, 66, is a special advisor for the Yankees and hangs around the team all the time, though for now he’ll have to sit on the sidelines.

This isn’t rocket science. The Yankees employ Reggie and when an employee makes comments like that, you have to take action. Normal schmucks like you and I would have been fired. It’s all damage control, they’re just avoiding a potential distraction. Olney says Jackson’s return to the organization at some point has not been ruled out, but I would be surprised if he’s back anytime soon.

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  1. Daniel says:

    Love Reggie but agree with the move. Jets should do the same with Namath because he trashes the coaches and players on regular basis.

    • RI$P FTW says:

      Namath also gets drunk and sexually harasses women live on camera.

    • wes hardison says:

      once a hotdog always a hotdog,he has a history of running off at the mouth,starting with spring training 1977.The yankees should just can him and get on with the season.Never could figure why george retired his number,Tino put up better numbers and won more rings and his number is not retired.Plus a much better teammate.

  2. JonS says:

    Good move. When I saw the original story I was taken back a little. Not by the Arod quotes, but by Reggie’s disdain for fellow Hall of Fame members.

    • Ro says:

      Gotta agree. While the Arod comment likely didn’t sit well with ownership, it could have been swept under the carpet. The fact that Reggie conveyed his unwarranted opinions about hall of fame members, including Gary Carter is unacceptable. No way the Yanks can tolerate that. This is the right move. It will smooth over, but I don’t we’ll see Reggie around for a while, maybe more than a year or two.

    • RetroRob says:

      I was taken back by both. He is paid by the Yankees, who employ A-Rod and him, and he’s friends with A-Rod.

      It appears Reggie all these years on is still capable of stirring things up. Thurman Munson probably could have consoled A-Rod if he still walked among us.

      Overall, though, it’s just Reggie being Reggie. He’s always been insecure and a narcissist, which amazes me he doesn’t get in to more trouble than he has.

      • MannyGeee says:

        If Thurman Munson was here today, he would be sitting in the special advisor chair (not making stupid comments like Reggie did) and Reggie would be managing in Albequerque… Jus sayin.

  3. Paul VuvuZuvella says:

    And so it was a magazine article that started the controversial Reggie/Yankee relationship (I’m the straw that stirs the drink, Thurman can only stir it badly) and a magazine article that might end it as well. Geez Reggie, for a very high IQ guy, you can be really dumb sometimes.

  4. Nathan says:

    I’m glad the Yankees did something/anything.

    If Reggie felt that way, he should keep it to himself as they serve no purpose or do nothing positive for either the Yankees, A-Rod or baseball.

  5. OMG! Bagels! says:

    Yeah, good move. He can have all the opinions he wants but that’s just not cool on so many levels.

    Wonder if they will get rid of that giant REGGIE sign in the main hall. They change players pix incredibly fast there. AJ Burnett’s was gone from the outside of the Stadium the day after he was traded. Don’t know what they do with former Yankees who fall into disfavor.

  6. yooboo says:

    Reggie will be back. It is of no concern.

    • RetroRob says:

      Basically, that’s right.

      The Yankees and Reggie won’t be severing their relationship. Just a cooling down period.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        Exactly.

        Shit gets said. Some of it was poor taste. He has the right to say whatever he wants about ARod. Whatever. He’ll be a Yankee for life.

        • TomH says:

          No one disputes his “right to say whatever he wants about ARod.” That was NEVER at issue. But the exercise of an abstract right usually has concrete consequences that the person ought to be intelligent enough to anticipate. He may then choose not to exercise the right. Reggie was never any good at anticipating consequences and giving a second, prudential thought thought to what his big damn mouth had the “right” to utter.

  7. I understand the move. I do hope they don’t cut ties forever though. I think that would be way too much. All Reggie Jackson did was speak the truth. Everything he said was accurate. I would think someone like Cashman, who has been so candid in recent years with the media, would understand that.

  8. Daniel says:

    Arod and Reggie are also really close. Thats what I found most strange about everything. Arod said during spring training to the media when they asked uncomfortable question to read out to his new adviser, Reggue jackson, for the answers.

    • Cuso says:

      To say Reggie and A-Rod are “close, ” is probably a bit of an exaggeration. Reggie has probably counseled A-Rod at points because Reggie has gone through similar things.

      However, it would seem that the Reggie-A-Rod relationship probably serves Reggie’s ego rather than prove any benefit to A-Rod.

  9. Ed says:

    Two words: Ronan Tynan.

  10. Arya says:

    Reggie had to go. If we started bashing our employers to the newspapers you can bet we’d be punished or more likely fired. You can’t bite the hand that feeds you. He’ll eventually be back but he needs to shut up for a while before that happens.

    • Preston says:

      Wasn’t exactly his boss he was disparaging, more like telling a reporter you don’t think one of you’re company’s products is quite as good as it once was because of the way it was made.

  11. Matt says:

    He said he didn’t see Puckett and Carter as Hall of Famers?

  12. RI$P FTW says:

    Didn’t he also accuse Billy Martin of racism and anti-semitism recently?
    Sounds like he’s trying really hard to be relevant b/c no one cares about some egomaniac idiot who hit a ball around decades ago.

    • RetroRob says:

      Reggie reguarly accuses people and teams of racism. He accused the A’s of racism and suggested the NY Mets didn’t draft him because he had a white girlfriend. After he made the Majors, he told a story to a publication (I think it was also Sports Illustrated) that he said occured while he was playing in the minors down south. He had an injury and said a hospital refused to treat him because he was black. The reporter went back and found that not only did the hospital treat him, they had also admitted him and kept him overnight for observation. Reggie has never explained the discrepancy. This story used to be included in Reggie’s Wikipedia entry, although it disappeared in the last couple years.

      No doubt many of the stories of racism he encountered over the years were true. No doubt some were in Reggie’s mind.

      • Dino Velvet says:

        NY Mets didn’t draft him because he had a white girlfriend.

        It wouldn’t surprise me. In 1966 biracial relationships were still controversial. At the time, interracial marriage was illegal in 20 states until the supreme court overturned the laws in 1967.

  13. dc1874 says:

    Reggie is for Reggie. Always a need for the spotlight.He was the first batter that I can remember who would pose at the plate and watch his homerun.. Im still pissed at the Yankees for retiring his number..His best years by far were with Oakland …

  14. Slu says:

    Reggie is dumb for making the comments, but he was not incorrect.

  15. Dino Velvet says:

    He believes that the Baseball Writers Association of America, whose members vote for the Hall, have adopted too low a standard. “I didn’t see Kirby Puckett as a Hall of Famer,” he says. “I didn’t see Gary Carter as a Hall of Famer. I didn’t see Don Sutton as a Hall of Famer. I didn’t see Phil Niekro as a Hall of Famer. As much as I like Jim Rice, I’m not so sure he’s a Hall of Famer.” What about Bert Blyleven? “No. No, no, no, no,” Jackson says. “Blyleven wasn’t even the dominant pitcher of his era — it was Jack Morris.”

    I don’t think he said anything offensive. It was simply his opinion. Posada has a better batting line than Gary Carter, yet “experts” say he doesn’t deserve to be in the Hall.

    • Tom Q says:

      Carter played in an era where offensive levels were much lower on the whole. And — even from someone who loves Jorge — Carter was MUCH better on the defensive side.

      Kirby Puckett was a truly special case. He was viewed somewhat the way Koufax was: as someone cut down unnaturally in his prime. Because of this (and because he was hugely beloved by the press), they projected out his stats to full-career level and figured that would give him 3000 hits, easy, which has always been a free pass to the Hall.

      As for Blyleven — I thought the day he was elected to HOF was a Sabremetric National Holiday. I’m surprised there’s not more squawking about Reggie on that.

      • Blueboy says:

        If Kirby got pro-rated entry, why didn’t Mattingly?

        I bet their statsare similar.

        • eephus_pitch says:

          Kirby Puckett was still hitting great when the glaucoma took away his depth perception and forced his retirement. He was still an all-star caliber player.
          Mattingly was completely through when he retired, and hadn’t been an impact player for 6 years prior. There was simply no reason to even consider pro-rating his numbers.

          • DSFC says:

            Oh, ok, so your career being ended by glaucoma is one thing, and being ended by severe back pain is another. Gotcha.

            If Mattingly had declined for years before retiring (which he did), and still ended up with almost identical career numbers as Puckett, that tells you something about which of them had ever been a truly great player, no? Puckett at his best couldn’t touch Mattingly at his best. It’s not even close.

            • eephus_pitch says:

              You’re missing the part where Mattingly was totally washed-up, and had been for many years. He retired because he wasn’t any good anymore. Puckett was still a force, and there was every reason to think he’d still be one if his sight hadn’t deserted him.
              Kirby Puckett was a good, and often great, player for his entire career. Mattingly was great for 4-5 years and a shell of himself for the rest of it.
              Be objective.

      • Cuso says:

        Carter may have been much better comparatively than Posada, but that doesn’t mean that either are lock Hall-of-Famers. If you’re going to make the generalization is “much lower on the whole, ” but fail to acknowledge that Carter’s comparisons would be to guys like Bench and Fisk, the argument is suspect.

        Carter and Pickett ARE marginal HOFers. Blyleven IS a stretch as a HOFer. But the issue isn’t the reality. The issue is that, whether true or not, these statements are unpopular and come across as bitter /self-serving. Combine that with taking shots at current players, and Reggie gets a little vacation.

  16. Gfk says:

    Whats the problem? Reggie is spot on. None of those guys belong in the hall. NoNE! It’s for greatness. Gary carter wasn’t great and sutton wasnt and blyleven certainly wasn’t. Puckett a no go too. Reggie is just being honest.

    • NapLajoieOnSteroids says:

      Gfk,

      If Carter isn’t a Hall of Fame catcher, I don’t know who would be. He rates right up there with Bench and Fisk (Piazza and Rodriguez, with their PED rumors, are different cases) in the modern era. When you think of catchers post-expansion, the first few names you think of are Fisk, Bench, Simmons and Carter.

      • Cuso says:

        He rates BEHIND Bench and Fisk. Maybe close in some areas, but on the whole not “with” them.

        He was a great guy and he won a ring. It was tragic that he was lost to us so soon.

        Guess what? Thurman Munson was better than Gary Carter.

        Separate the fact that he JUST died from cancer recently then try to be objective.

        • eephus_pitch says:

          Gary Carter career home runs: 324
          Thurman Munson career home runs: 113

          Gary Carter career RBI: 1225
          Thurman Munson career RBI: 701

          Gary Carter career OPS: .773
          Thurman Munson career OPS: .756

          They both went to a lot of all-star games and both won three Gold Gloves.

          I don’t see any way in which Thurman Munson could be considered better than Gary Carter. Yes, Munson’s career was tragically shortened, but he was already on the downside and was considering retirement at the time of his death.

    • Knoxvillain says:

      Shut up, idiot. Carter and Blyleven are no-brainers. Blyleven is one of the most underrated pitchers ever. The fact that he said Jack Morris was better than him makes Reggie look like even more of a moron. Reggie has always been and always will be a douchebag.

      • Cuso says:

        Reggie may be a d-bag. I agree with that.

        The J-Mo > Blyleven is spot on. Morris was better. No matter what cumulative stats you point to, if you watched both (actually watched, not read about) pitch there is no question Morris was WAY better than Blyleven.

  17. Robinson Tilapia says:

    This is not a big deal. I hope Reggie is back for OTD next year.

  18. OldYanksFan says:

    His comments on the HOFer were contraversial.
    His comments on ARod, a fellow Yankee and a current Yankee, were 100% UNACCEPTABLE.

    And yeah, hundreds if not thousands of players did PEDS or HGH. And zillions did Greenies (including Mays, Mantle and Aaron). And 90 or so names have still not been released. But lets just punish the name brand players who were outed.

    And Andy.. Andy… who did HGH a few time in ONE YEAR?
    HGH is NOT A PED!!!!!!!!!!!! It does NOT enhance performance.
    Even the Mitchell Report stated that.

    Reggie is an asshole, and worse, and idiot.

    • OldYanksFan says:

      ContrOversial.
      (I knew it didn’t look right).

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        Always blame that on modern technology.

        I agree with everything you said. I also think people say dumb shit and it doesn’t sever relationships. These guys are thicker skinned than this.

  19. Dalelama says:

    Reggie gets banned for revealing the truth about Old Purple Lips. What a shame!

  20. Vic says:

    Jackson is absolutely right about ARod and Pettitte. God forbid anybody tells the truth.

    • RetroRob says:

      He said Pettitte deserved to be a HOFer even though he took PEDs. He says that Clemens should be a HOFer. He says his friend A-Rod shouldn’t because he took PEDs.

      Not sure where the truth is in there. Confusion, but not truth.

      I’m assuming this interview occurred over drinks like the infamouse Sports Magazine story from years back.

  21. Rich in NJ says:

    I think it was a business decision. Jackson basically said the Yankees are flushing that $6m they are potentially paying A-Rod for each HR milestone he reaches. Now that may be true, but obviously, the Yankees don’t want to promote that.

  22. steve s says:

    The only reason Reggie has hung on so long in a prominent roll in the organization was because he was smart enough to cultivate a relationship with George and the Steinbrenner family. This latest faux pas though makes it open season for all the enemies he’s made along the way (and there are plenty) and they are enjoying taking their rips at him. The difference this time is that the Steinbrenners are not going to protect him and Reggie will lose the carte blanche access he’s had to the Yankee clubhouse. My guess is Reggie will react negatively to this change and will not just want to be relegated to Old-Timer Day status and the ultimate result will be an acrimonius break-up that will not have a happy Yogi reunion end.

  23. whitey says:

    Reggie will be back! Next

  24. Christopher says:

    Show us what a butt head Reggie is, A-rod! Go on! Shove a whole bleacherful of dingers down his pie hole!

  25. Gfk says:

    Carter is a .260 hitter. Anyone want to say that a hof material? I like the guy but come on. They are putting guys in that don’t belong. Hello blyleven! Barely above .500. Your not great. HOF-greatness! These guys aren’t great. It’s honesty and apparently no one likes It. Keep speaking it Reggie!

    • Beepernps says:

      I think Carter was a borderliner HOF, but Blyleven was a certifiable HOF. He’s 5th ALLTIME for Strikeouts. He pitched many complete games, and was a an innings eater before relief corps saved teams. He had horrible run support, and played on second rate teams. He was a far better pitcher than Jack Morris.

    • eephus_pitch says:

      Using batting average and pitcher wins to determine HOF status is a piss-poor argument. I hope you understand that.

  26. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

    I agree it’s absolutely disgraceful that Puckett and Jim Rice of in the HOF and I agree Blyleven and Sutton shouldn’t be in either. Hell, over their peak 5 years, Mattingly was a superior player to Puckett and his career was also derailed because of injury.

    Carter was also a borderline candidate at best so Jackson was not incorrect in my opinion.

    The Arod stuff, however he may feel, should have never been said in public by a Yankees employee. That was just plain stupid. There’s a time for honesty and a time for discretion and political correctness.

  27. Andrew 518 says:

    I’m embarassed to be a Yankee fan today. As much by the actions of the front office as by what seems to be the prevailing attitude here. Being employed by someone should not require you to be in denial of reality. Being a fan of a team should not require you to expect the denial of reality. There is nothing controversial of what Reggie said, if his comments suprise A-Rod, or the front office then they have had their collective heads in the sand, his numbers ARE clouded. Given the HOF voting this is a mainsteam notion that has been widely accepted within the game. I really don’t consider myself a big fan of Reggie, but I support his right to answer an obvious question with the obvious answer. Ultimately I feel this only makes a bigger deal out of something that wasn’t a big deal to begin with.

    • Christopher says:

      The middle of the season is no time for this nonsense. Reggie should know better, and if you’ve ever worked for a corporation you know a basic fact of life — don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

    • sjferrari says:

      Reggie has every right to say what he said, but he there are consequences to actions. Like others have said here, if you go out and publicly disparage a coworker, you’re going to get reprimanded, possibly even fired. Being employed by someone means that, if you want to continue your employment, you keep your mouth shut when it comes to things like this.

    • Vic says:

      Agree, Andrew. Can’t believe most of the comments here. Can’t believe what I’m reading.

  28. NapLajoieOnSteroids says:

    I really don’t find his death relevant, and think it is sentimental that so many people are coming to his defense because of it.

    What I do find is that both FanGraphs and Baseball Reference place his WAR as the 4th best all time for catchers. His total of 2,056 appearances as a catcher ranks fourth all-time. According to FanGraphs, Ivan Rodriguez has the best defensive metrics; but the next three guys are Jim Sundberg, Gary Carter and Bob Boone and Carter hit better than those two put together. In his book, Win Shares, Bill James gave Carter an A for his defense. He won three Gold Gloves and deserved more.

    Most long time catchers are good defenders (in one aspect or another) but very few of those are great hitters too. Carter is right up there, who I would say was BETTER than Bench and Fisk in his prime ’20s [Fisk was the better hitter and Bench the better defender, but Carter was a better catcher than Fisk and a better hitter than Bench.] The only reason he isn’t remembered as fondly is because his most “iconic” years were with the Mets when he was already past his prime and on the wrong side of 30. He wasn’t the same player he previously was, and that has impaired the perception of how great he was.

    This isn’t a borderline case, this is a guy who easily ranks right up there and I’m kinda surprised that people (like Jackson) find him debatable. Personally, I find Jackson’s case more questionable than Carter’s. Carter is easily a Top Ten Catcher of All Time, and probably in the top five; whereas I’m not sure if Jackson is a Top Ten Right Fielder, and there is a slight chance I’d place him somewhere between 16-25.

    • eephus_pitch says:

      Reggie’s got that (vastly overstated) postseason reputation on his side. He basically played out of his mind for two straight World Series, and was up-and-down in all his other postseason appearances, and has parlayed that into the bogus “Mr. October” stuff. Confirmation bias. We want to remember his postseason achievements when he OPSed over 1.500, and forget when he OPSed .200 and .347.

  29. bonestock94 says:

    I thought the comments were pretty innocuous, especially the ones about ARod and Pettitte.

    • TomH says:

      Perhaps that’s because you are neither ARod nor Pettitte.

      • eephus_pitch says:

        Those guys broke the rules, and knew they were breaking the rules at the time. They can handle a few sharp words.
        They probably didn’t expect to come from a co-worker, though. But Reggie’s a loudmouth, and always has been.

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