Jul
09

2012 Homerun Derby Open Thread

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Is the Homerun Derby getting stale? Yeah, it has been for years. It’s just too long, that’s all really. It’s not boring though. It’s still fun to watch, especially when you’ve got a horse in the race.

Robinson Cano, captain of the AL Squad, will defend his crown after walking off with last year’s Derby win against Adrian Gonzalez. He has a chance to become the first player since Ken Griffey Jr. in 1998 and 1999 to repeat as champ. Robbie selected his three teammates — David Ortiz reportedly declined an invitation — and brought his father Jose to Kansas City to pitch to him again. Here are the participants in no particular order, I have no idea who is hitting when tonight…

American League
Robinson Cano  (20 HR) — captain
Mark Trumbo (22)
Prince Fielder (15)
Jose Bautista (27)

National League
Matt Kemp (12 HR) — captain, just off the DL
Andrew McCutchen (18) — replaced the injured Giancarlo Stanton
Carlos Beltran (20)
Carlos Gonzalez (17)

As for my official prediction, I’m going with Cano to repeat. It’s not about raw power, it’s about endurance. Between the screen drill with Kevin Long and his daily batting practice sessions, I feel like Robbie could stand at home plate and hit dingers for hours in a setting like this. Either way, the Derby starts at 8pm ET and can be seen on ESPN. Feel free to talk about that or anything else you want right here. Have at it.

Categories : Open Thread

204 Comments»

  1. Brian S. says:

    Cano has a minor power slump last year after the derby. I’d kind of like him to not do that this year.

  2. Countryclub says:

    I think cano is going to put on a good show. But he didn’t get in until 5am last night. That can’t help.

  3. Hall and Nokes says:

    What is this anyway? I thought home runs were bad.

  4. Cano fan #1 says:

    CANO IS TE MANNNNNN

  5. Andruw's Smile says:

    Guys remember when Bobby Abreu won the HR Derby?

  6. oldmanalex says:

    aright anybody here want to see Andrew Mcutchen win? I kind of really do, hope thats not bad.

  7. Brian S. says:

    So Cano is going to get booed tonight?

  8. Steve says:

    None of the ESPN analysts picked Cano! ESPN is anti-Yankee!

  9. does anybody know if I can watch this through mlb.tv if I have the radio package?

  10. eephus_pitch says:

    I wish Robbie had picked A-Rod for the team, just to make stuart’s head explode.

    37 RBI!!!!!

  11. Paul VuvuZuvella says:

    Love me some Bluegrass. Play another.

  12. Countryclub says:

    For those that want to flick back and forth….First Blood on AMC

  13. Greg says:

    Damn, Royals fans are pissed

  14. Chris says:

    Pretty good first round for Beltran.

  15. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Nomar should shut the fuck up.

  16. Kramerica Industries says:

    Bautista went nuts there.

    • Andruw's Smile says:

      Oh man, that is ROUGH.
      I’m not gonna mourn too hard for another AL East team. Especially with Gerrit Cole being all awesome.

    • RetroRob says:

      Read something, somewhere that next year’s draft is not expected to be a strong one either, which may encourage a few of the top college arms from this year to re-enter next year. We may see this with Appel and Heaney, too. Could be worth another $5M or more to them.

      • Andruw's Smile says:

        Seems irrational to re-enter as a pitcher. Chances are high (especially in college with the over/misuse) that they can get hurt and lose a lot of money and development time.

  17. Michaels' Pineda says:

    I can’t last 10 minutes into the Derby because my tolerance for Chris Berman is smaller than an Asians’ “unit”. Until he’s gone, I don’t think I will watch it.

    • RetroRob says:

      He’s horrible. So is Kruk. Painful.

      • Michaels' Pineda says:

        Most of ESPNs’ commentators are pretty painful to stomach. People can say what they want about Michael Kay or John Sterling, but I’ll take them in a heartbeat.

        • eephus_pitch says:

          His Homerun Derby performance is the worst. The way he tries to work in local geography just sucks out loud. I’m sure we’ll hear a “THAT ONE’S HEADED FOR WICHITA!!!” before the night’s over, even though KC actually play in Missouri.

  18. RetroRob says:

    Why was Dustin Pedroia sitting on R.A. Dickey’s knee?

  19. Greg says:

    Oh my goodness

  20. Weaver kinda looks like he should be in a rock band, kinda like a Scott Weiland kinda rock star

  21. NYCSPORTZFAN says:

    guys aren’t having that terrible 1st round like someone usually does every yr so far.. Robbies gonna put on a 1st rd show, that much i will gurantee.. I would be shocked if he hits less then 13… Assuming he keeps going and dosen’t stop…

  22. Darren says:

    GAH! Just popped my quad doing sprints. What’s the best treatment? It’s starting to hurt worse now that I’m home and lying down.

  23. Dewayne is Wise says:

    Ugly uniforms

  24. Greg says:

    Just want an opinion, when did the Home Run Derby become so long?

  25. NYCSPORTZFAN says:

    Prince is gone.. That stinks, for the AL…

  26. NYCSPORTZFAN says:

    i bet kemp to hit least amount of HR’s in rd 1.. Hope he keeps this pace up of NONE..lol

  27. NYCSPORTZFAN says:

    Sweet, Kemp only gets 1 hr! As long As Robbie gets at least 2, i just won 350bucks on Kemp hitting least amount of HR’s in RD 1.. YES!

  28. David N says:

    Come on, Robbie.

  29. NYCSPORTZFAN says:

    i also got Cano over Beltran in RD 1. So worst case scenario i need Cano to hit 7hrs, and best case to hit at least 8.. Come on Robbie!!
    Robbiewas the fave forthat bet, so i put up 72to win 55… Already up 350 now though…

  30. Greg says:

    Cant believe they actually hired a plane sky message for Cano

  31. Mike Axisa says:

    Kill them all, Robbie.

  32. NYCSPORTZFAN says:

    I hope Robbie dosen’t stop if he gets 6, he won’t do that, u think?

  33. Greg says:

    Holy mackeral

  34. NYCSPORTZFAN says:

    Come on Robbie! Don’t let these fool fans get the best of u!

  35. NYCSPORTZFAN says:

    Wow, Cano is gonna kill me, if he dosen’t get going here.. Holy Shit!

  36. Pat D says:

    Wow, fuck these fans.

  37. Chris says:

    Screw these bitter Royals fans.

  38. cjc says:

    stay classy kansas city

  39. Braun says:

    Kansas city white trash

  40. NYCSPORTZFAN says:

    wow, Robbie costed me 350 bucks…LOL THanks alot, cano!!! Dosen’t even get 1 hr..LOL Thats embaressing!

    • G says:

      I’m praying that was a poor attempt at mocking New York sports fans. That kind of typing can’t be serious.

  41. Kramerica Industries says:

    Royals fans are pathetic.

  42. Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too) says:

    C’mon Robbie. Shutout? Say it aint so.

  43. Greg says:

    Ok, next time we play the Royals we have to kick their ass.

    Disgraceful performance by the KC fans. I thought they were better than this

    • G says:

      They seriously expected Cano to pick a guy who has never hit more than 21 in a year? All the guys he picked have already hit that many, with the exception of Fielder who is an obvious choice.

      Just plain embarrassing. And I’m not talking about Cano, this is just for fun. I guess this is what wines of fans with nothing else to cheer about.

  44. forensic says:

    These fans have turned this into an embarrassment. I no longer feel sorry for them having to watch their terrible team year after year. I hope they never have a winning season again. Way to show your true colors.

  45. The Scheister of Doom says:

    Oh Robbie!!

  46. Zanath says:

    Royals fans are assholes.

  47. Betty Lizard says:

    OK the visit to the “mound” by Sabbathia and Granderson was hilarious.

    • oldmanalex says:

      ha. i thought at first, grandy was signalling for a pitching change. MELKY + CANO Spotting already… surprise surprise

  48. David N says:

    And there is is, the biggest thing that Royals fans will have to cheer all year.

  49. Ron says:

    Fucking rednecks. Bean butler in the head next time we play in that shithole.

    • G says:

      Now now, let’s be the bigger fanbase here. Butler had nothing to do with this.

      Instead aim for heads on line drive fouls, punish the people actually responsible.

  50. Nathan says:

    Wow…KC is classy.

    I think, while it isn’t his responsibility or even his deal, Butler could and IMO should have went out there after the first couple outs and quieted down the crowd by giving Cano a high five, a fist bump or even a pat on the back.

  51. Dewayne is Wise says:

    Wow robbie really
    Shit the bed there.

  52. NYCSPORTZFAN says:

    The captains combine for 1hr..lol I needed 2hrs from Cano to win 350bucks, and he gets zero..lol That is about the most annoying thing i’ve ever seen in my life…

  53. ansky says:

    bbq smothered douchebags

  54. wow says:

    dang KC fans are absolute trash… stay classy KC.

  55. your mom says:

    Yes, fuck the Royal fans. Hope their team stays shitty for years to come. Not like they’re close either.

    I hope Cano launches some bombs when we play them again.

  56. New Girl says:

    I’m embarrassed to be a Midwesterner…really, KC? Maybe if your team didn’t SUCK, Robbie would’ve picked a Royal. Don’t blame Robbie for how bad the team sucks.

    • David N says:

      Butler was 17th in the league in HRs. So…he clearly deserved the spot, right?

      If MLB wants to make it a requirement that the host team gets a player, fine (and it wouldn’t be a bad idea). But until then, they’re just being irrationally bitter.

  57. Chris says:

    It’s disgusting and unhealthy the way most baseball fans hate the Yankees.

  58. NYCSPORTZFAN says:

    Cano could of quieted them by hitting a few long balls, but he didn’t.. THe royals fans cheered a guy in the HR derby to not do well, its not that big a deal..

    • Greg says:

      He was tired. He played last night and got here at 5 AM. Plus, by looking at his tweet afterwards, I don’t think he expected that much of a reaction.

    • Betty Lizard says:

      ITA. Both Kemp and Cano will laugh last. Resting isn’t a bad thing. Meanwhile, it’s just a show. The best thing is seeing all the kids.

    • Dean Winters says:

      THe royals fans cheered a guy in the HR derby to not do well, its not that big a deal..

      —————–

      It’s not but I hope their team fails forever.

  59. Brian S. says:

    Missouri had more meth lab explosions than any other state last year.

  60. Reggie C. says:

    That was unfortunate.

    Maybe the fans were having “fun” , but it was very mean spirited “fun”. That’s not cool. Whatever … KC wont sniff playoffs for another year. Those fans aren’t getting near national TV after the ASB.

  61. Nathan says:

    I wonder if the KC fans would boo Cano tomorrow if he comes to the plate in the bottom of the 9th as the winning run.

    Yeah probably…not like WS home field advantage matters for the Royals.

  62. Greg says:

    Look at this tweet from Grandy. What class.

    cgrand14: that was the most interesting reaction to a home rum derby i’ve ever seen, but the fans were excited which is all that counts :-) #HRDerby

  63. Luisergi says:

    Fuck the royals and their stupid lame ass fans….
    Theta are in my (and robbie’s) black list.
    Classless jerks, and billy butter can go play with himself at his mother’s house basement, just like all tose clowns in the crowd do.

    Yes i’m overreacting, probably, but that was not cool..

    • KJ says:

      Ya I sadly agree. It’s supposed to be fun. A bit of booing in the introduction whatever. But to keep piling on was uncool and quite unclassy. Whatever, the yanks will always be better.

  64. Dewayne is Wise says:

    Do not forget this stupid stadium took Mo away from us this year.

  65. Pat D says:

    I don’t think I’ll be wearing my Royals hat anytime soon.

    • RetroRob says:

      Why would you ever?

      • Luisergi says:

        +1

      • Pat D says:

        I bought it because I like the hat and I’ve rooted for the team because I start to root for teams that have been down for so long, with some exceptions.

        • RetroRob says:

          Find a new down-and-out team! : -)

          • Pat D says:

            Other than the Yankees, the other current hats I have are the Royals, Twins and Padres. Though I think the Padres hat may now be technically out of date. The SD logo seems to be either brown or goldish now, and the one I have is white.

            I have a bunch of throwback hats too.

            • forensic says:

              You could get one of their hideous camouflage ones.

              It’s a good reason/cause they wear them for, but boy are they ugly.

              • Pat D says:

                I’d never wear that, and I already have a couple that I don’t wear, like the 70′s Pirates pillbox hat, so I don’t need any more space taken up by something I wouldn’t use.

  66. Chris says:

    Prince Fielder is killing it.

  67. RetroRob says:

    I’ve been to about 80% of the ballparks in the AL, and maybe 50% of the NL. The two ruddest fanbases I’ve run across were the Twins and Royals. (Phillies would come in third. Yes, even before Boston.)

    • vicki says:

      the twinkies, really? i’ve been to games at nine spring training facilities and twins fans were by far the best fans. of course theyre just so happy to be out of the snow in early march.

  68. mt says:

    Also given late end toi last noght’s game and media obligations today, he probably is only operating on a couple of hours sleep.

    I did expect Butler to come out and do something to smooth over situation.

    Should be interesting whether there now will be a home town rep every year for the home city in future years.

    Robby, get used to it – will pale in comparison to booing you will get when you come back to YS3 as a Toronto Blue Jay :-)

    Next year should be interesting – isn’t it in Citi Field? – will they boo all the Yankees?

    • Rivera Venue Blues says:

      “Robby, get used to it – will pale in comparison to booing you will get when you come back to YS3 as a Toronto Blue Jay”

      Don’t you dare even joke about stuff like that.

      • mt says:

        I am joking but no matter how good he is I do not want to pay a 31 year old $200 million for eight years (while still paying the ghost of Arod and the weakened Mark Teixeira.)

        It will be interesting to see his reaction – he is so positive and happy – not sure he has gotten the hate of being a Yankke like Jeter and Arod (pornographic Tshirts and such like they do in Boston)

    • Kevin G. says:

      Probably be a lot of Yankee fans there

  69. Bunt Gardner says:

    I’m beginning to think KC fans are even more petty than Boston fans.

  70. mt says:

    Didn’t KC fans do that fan walk-out a couple of years ago after Arod signed his contract? It was a protest against big markets – I vaguely remember that.

    • Brian S. says:

      Texas is a big market?

      • Chris says:

        Technically. Among the states only California has a larger population.

      • RetroRob says:

        I guess it’s a relative term. Any market big their your home-team market is a big market!

        Certainly smaller market teams have some greater issues to overcome, but the Royals problems (and the Pirates as another example) were based in horrible management. Interestingly, both seemed to finally catch on in the past few years and began to focus more resources on development, just in time for Selig to then push through the new CBA changes which actually hurt teams like the Royals even more.

      • Meh says:

        Dallas-Ft. Worth is the 4th largest metro area in the US. So yeah.

  71. swishers fauxhawk says:

    The highlight of this has been fatass Kruk going down on those ribs

  72. Cuso says:

    This has been a shining reminder of why noone feels bad for Royals fans and their futility.

    Worst part is that it’s so easy for MSM to take the stance that Cano deserved it instead of having the balls to recognize that that was a classless display by Kansas City.

    • mt says:

      To his credit I did hear Larkin say – that booing was “not what this was supposed to be about.”

    • forensic says:

      Ravech and Larkin called them out for it. Of course, then Francona made an excuse for them and it was all ignored after that.

      • Cuso says:

        Yeah it was precisely that quick back-and-forth that torqued me off. Larking actually started to say something, Ravech said what they did but didn’t acknowledge whether it was right/wrong and Francona gave a quick segues to ge past it.

        Like I said, they don’t have the balls to come out and say it was wrong. If it was NYC, you know they’d have snarky comments about drunk bleacher creatures or fans spitting at visiting players’ wives, etc.

    • Greg says:

      The MSM will probably take a neutral stance on it, saying that it was okay to boo at first, but it got a little out of hand

  73. Greg says:

    20 minutes later and I’m still irked about that. It’ll pass by the end of the night. But no one deserves that unless they do something really bad.

    • Pat D says:

      I’m booing you right now.

      ;)

    • Betty Lizard says:

      It’s OK, Greg. You’ll have forgotten this by the time of the World Series.

    • Cuso says:

      I purposely switched it off after that. I was reminded whyi don’t watch ESPN at ALL anymore. Only MLB network. That was a horseshit display and the vagina tactics of not calling them out on it was equally as disgraceful.

      That’s right. Vagina tactics.

      • Chris says:

        Barry Larkin was in the process of calling the crowd out when Francona said something along the lines of “oh they were just having some fun” and then the topic was dropped.

      • OMG! Bagels! says:

        That’s horseshit sexist comments.

        • Cuso says:

          Fine. Would you rather I say dickhead tactics?

          If you’re not breaking my chops and you truly find sexism in my comments, I officially apologize

          Otherwise, I’m just pissed off and if you going out of your way to find some unethical sexist flaw in my thinking – knock yourself out.

  74. KC Yankee Fan says:

    Well, I live in Kansas City and am a huge Yankee fan. I am embarrassed and disgusted with the way they treated Cano. In all honestly, they hate the Yankees here. They can’t get over it’s no longer the 1980′s. It’s nothing more than petty jealousy. 25 straight years of losing will do that to people. It’s not just the Royals, Chiefs too. Unless you’re a Jayhawk fan sports absolutely blow around here. I apologize for my redneck Kansas Citians.

    • RI$P FTW says:

      Yankees are perpetual victims. Sob sob.

    • RetroRob says:

      Like the Mariners did for a few years, and the Rangers now, the Royals were once competitive with the Yankees and the fans seem to take it harder when the inevitable fall comes. In their case, it dates back even further to when the KC A’s were referred to as the Yankees farm team.

  75. Fin says:

    I dont know, all the booing looked in good fun to me. Everyone booing had smiles on their faces. When they panned through the crowd, all those people booing had smiles and were laughing, its not like it was a malicious, Giants fan booing Cowboys type of thing.

  76. Pat D says:

    So I’m wondering if this means all the Yankees get heavily booed tomorrow?

    • Cuso says:

      Guaranteed Cano gets the same treatment again. Doesn’t matter that he’s playing for the home AL team. Pettiness outranked everything.

    • forensic says:

      Sure, why not? It’s not like any KC fans have any reason to care who gets homefield in the WS.

    • RetroRob says:

      Yankees are always booed on introduction. I’m guessing Cano will be extra booed, including during the game.

  77. RetroRob says:

    Basically, we have no choice now but to root for Trumbo to win this now.

    • forensic says:

      I can’t root for an Angel (though at least I won’t boo him). I can’t root for Bautista. Nothing against Beltran, but him winning would make the fans too happy so I can’t root for that. So I guess that leaves me with Fielder.

  78. Chris says:

    If only those ribs actually did make Berman smarter.

  79. OldYanksFan says:

    At 23 years old, Mark Trumbo at AA, has a .790 OPS
    At 24 years old, Mark Trumbo at AAA, has a .945 OPS
    Now, at 26, he’s a monster.
    Last bloomer?
    The Angels have some pretty serious power.
    Trumbo, Trout and Pujols.

  80. Greg says:

    I actually think the Celebrity softball game is more entertaining than the Derby

  81. KJ says:

    Cano actually looks a little defeated by this whole thing. Damn KC.

    • RI$P FTW says:

      He’s a dumb jock that has been worshipped his entire life for being able to hit a ball. He can say he doesn’t care all he wants, but we all know he does care.

      • Cuso says:

        Because of his father ‘s involvement. He can take it. He can’t handle how his Dad was affected by it.

      • Bunt Gardner says:

        Someone sounds bitter.

      • KJ says:

        None of them should be worshipped but they shouldn’t be reviled either. It’s so easy to forget that these are human beings and should be treated as such. I personally have never been a “booer” but I understand when fans get emotionally involved in a game and act thusly. However, the home run derby is clearly meant to be a friendly fun event and should be treated as such. Also I definitely agree with the comments about how it probably affected his dad. The simple answer is, put yourself in his shoes. Even understanding that you’re a professional athlete and some of the vitriol comes with the territory, does that make it something that you wouldn’t be affected by? Or more to the point does it make it right for us to treat fellow human beings like that? Just seems uncool to me, especially when we’re talking about a fun game which we all love.

  82. Chris says:

    Bautista just made things interesting.

  83. Greg says:

    Cano looks really down. I hope this doesn’t have any effect on him past today or even tomorrow

    • forensic says:

      Eh, hopefully he’ll get a little extra cheer on Friday and it won’t matter. He’ll remember who the only fans he cares about are. And like he said, they’re Yankees, they’re used to being booed, to a point, in half their games every year.

      • Cuso says:

        True. Only shitty part about it is that they were clearly booing the man, not the team. They were taking outright pleasure inhospitable failure.

        But the hardest part? I guarantee the hardest part is Jose Cano through this. You can tell it rattled him a little too. It was actually Robbie that had to reassure his father through the process. Robbie will get over the KC fans bookng him ; but his father having to be a part of that is gonna stick a bit.

  84. CBean says:

    And their stupid stadium broke Mo
    /still bitter

    • David N says:

      I could take the booing of Cano with no problems, but that plus the stadium breaking Mo?

      Oh yeah, KC needs to go down. Hard.

  85. Chris says:

    Fielder’s dreadlocks look terrible.

  86. The Scheister of Doom says:

    I’d prefer Fielder over that scurvy fuck, Bautista.

  87. Chris says:

    Cool that Fielder won. But the way these fans treated Cano still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

    • space cadet glow says:

      Fuck those hicks.

      • Andrew 518 says:

        Really?

        So you’re saying when we had the All-Star game and booed the shit out of the Red Sox players that was ok, but now that Cano is getting booed it’s in poor taste?

        What everyone here is saying that Papplebon was right when he was a whinny little bitch and complained that the NY fans “ruined” his whole All Star experience?

        Come on we’re the Yankees, get some thick skin, who cares what a bunch of poor KC fans think, this is all they have, we booed the Red Sox (and Mets) players pretty badly when they played in our stadium, if Billy Butler was the captain of the Home Run Derby and he failed to chose any Yankees for the game at our stadium I would hope that we would have given it to him far worse than they were able to muster.

        • forensic says:

          That’s not even close to a real comparison. Boo him during the introductions, fine. Boo him and cheer the first out, not too crazy.

          But to go nuts for all 10 outs and to enjoy it is embarrassing for the sport. Yankee or not, this is a guy who travelled halfway across the country after playing a game that didn’t end until after midnight only to have to show up early for various media obligations and participate in an exhibition and then have a pitiful fanbase who can’t even show up for their own team boo him (and his Father) all night for not picking some random jackass in the 20′s of the AL in homers is just an insult to the whole idea of the exhibition.

          It all just went too far.

          • gc says:

            Plus, the home run derby is essentially a charity event as well. As soon as I saw the freaking airplane with the sign, I lost what little respect I had for Royals fans. Fuck them.

  88. pistol pete says:

    What a bunch of bush leagues in KC. You can have the heartland and all the flat ground and rednecks. Don’t worry about it Robbie, go out and have a monster 2nd half and leave the knuckleheads in KC with their pathetic franchise.

  89. Ricky says:

    all the haters are having a field day over cano’s 0 hr. I hope cano does something tomorrow to shut alot of people up and if not then he’ll do it during the 2nd half.

  90. King George says:

    The fact of the matter is that these events and showcases are for fun and to promote fan excitement. The fans really displayed some unfortunate behavior. Booing at a Home Run Derby because Billy Butler wasn’t selected to participate is weak and it shows that the fans really don’t deserve to host this game. All-Star Games are privileges and the fans’ pettiness went beyond what is appropriate or normal. End of story.

  91. Pat D says:

    Why do I keep getting into stupid arguments with people on ESPN’s comments sections?

    Someone hit me before I do it again.

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