Thursday Night Open Thread


The Yankees are off today but their closest competitors are not. The Orioles already pounded former Yankees farmhand Jose Quintana this afternoon, so they remain three games back in the loss column heading into this weekend’s series in the Bronx. The Rays are four games back going into tonight’s game against the Blue Jays. I suppose the good news is that regardless of what happens this weekend, the Yankees will head to Tampa next week no worse than tied for first place. I would much appreciate that not happening, however. Win some games, please.

Here is your open thread for the evening. The Cardinals and Nationals (Garcia vs. Jackson) will be on MLB Network, but as far as I know the Jets preseason game will not be broadcast on television anywhere. They won’t score any touchdowns anyway, so there, now you know what happens. You folks know how these things work by now, so go for it.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly known as Brian S.) says:

    I think Dante Bichette Jr. and Cito Culver need to start hanging out with the Rays Low-A minor league team. If you know what I mean.

  2. Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW) says:

    Bruce is all about the working man. That’s why he did a propaganda video for MLB, in which owners charge a lot of money for tix to see rich dudes throw and hit a ball around. Don’t forget how they screw the fans on food and parking charges. How poignant.
    GOP is evil, but MLB is great. Obviously, he’s got a flawless perspective on life.

    • JohnnyC says:

      Bruce probably knows more about baseball than you do as well.

      • Rainbow connection says:

        So it’s ok to be a complete hypocrite? You make no sense.

        • JohnnyC says:

          Well, of course, someone whose handle is a Muppets song title probably wouldn’t be much of a Bruce fan. You’d need to be at least past pre-school mental age to comprehend these concepts.

          • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW) says:

            You still make absolutely no sense. Explain yourself in detail. Please. As soon as possible. Can’t wait to hear it.

          • BeanTooth says:

            Don’t diss the Muppets, man. That song’s a classic. Been covered by plenty of great grown-ups. YouTube it, bro. Also, I see no hypocrisy with Bruce here. You don’t have to wear a hair shirt in order to advocate for the working man. And just because owners are greedy doesn’t mean regular folks can’t enjoy the game with a clean conscience, and enjoy a good Bruce song to boot.

  3. Pinstripes In Cali says:

    Baseball’s really sending an interesting image about its relevance: An aging rock star backed by a gray-haired band.

  4. Kevin says:

    Nice to see the Rays being able to handle the big bad Blue Jays lineup. CC and Phelps should be ashamed of themselves.

  5. jjyank says:

    Pretty cool promotion, if you ask me. Stuff like that always makes me smile. I just love baseball.

  6. Kevin G. says:

    Why do I feel like the Orioles are going to win at least two one-run games this series?

  7. Kevin says:

    The Blue Jays scored two runs but the Rays have runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs..and unlike us..I’m fairly sure they will score.
    Sorry to sound harsh but you can’t take a positive feeling with this team when you go 3-3 against two of the worst teams in the league. And unlike us,the A’s were able to clobber Masterton today.

  8. Better off Eddard says:

    Here’s what we’ll have tomorrow to combat the Os-


    Pretty good lineup. The only problem is the stacked lefties. Buck has been signing LHP in anticipation for this series. Joe will need to get creative.

  9. Will (the other one) says:

    I love that it’s nearly-forgotten-among-all-the-hype Greg McElroy that scores the Jets’ first touchdown of the preseason. There’s just some sort of justice to that.

  10. CUYanks says:

    Tomorrow’s Lineup:

    Derek Pearce
    Nick Pearce
    Robinson Pearce
    Sam Pearce
    Curtis Pearce
    Eric Pearce
    Raul Pearce
    Russell Pearce
    Ichiro Pearce

    Pretty fierce lineup. The only problem is the stacked Pearces. Buck will probably sign a POOGY (Pearce One Out Guy). What can you do, he’s manager of the year for a reason.

  11. forensic says:

    Poor, Suffering jets fans can always watch the game tomorrow night on nfl network if they want to see that precious first td.

    • Better off Eddard says:

      They say that God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. What proof is there that this son is not Tim Tebow? I can’t for the life of me figure out why the Jets haven’t named Tebow starting QB yet. He does God’s work and went 7-4 last year as a starter. Did Sanchez have a winning record? Did Sanchez inspire his team to play great? If Tebow were practicing and playing with the starters they’d have 3-16 touchdowns by now.

  12. goterpsgo says:

    I hope they put a major hurtin’ on dem 0′s this weekend. The fans down here are insufferable.

  13. CUYanks says:

    I guess other teams can lose to the Blue Jays as well. Just disgraceful.

  14. Better off Eddard says:

    Tampa has been shutout again, this time by those pesky Rays. Our chief rival is now the Orioles. The Rays just don’t have enough offense to consistently win enough ballgames to overtake us. We need to put some distance between us and the Os this weekend.

  15. IPK for Tim Reddings (formerly known as Brian S.) says:

    Down 3-1 with 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth, Tyler Austin hit a grand slam to put the Tampa Yanks ahead 5-3. They would win 5-4.

  16. Kramerica Industries says:

    Well, Toronto did the Yankees a solid tonight, but I’m gonna want more than that from them this weekend, after the bullshit that happened in the Bronx this week.

    Tonight never happened. It’s a three game series. Hope the Jays can take two of three.

  17. Cris Pengiucci says:

    Just got back from NY. Brought my daughter back to Fordham and got to see Hughes pitch a gem. My wife’s first time to YSIII (my daughter and I went last year). Nice evening and at least I got to see a win. Hopefully 2 or 3 more coming this eekend.

  18. Wow…the head dude on MLB Tonight is saying that maybe Mariano isn’t as important/great as everyone thought because Soriano has been very good. Fuck him.

    • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW) says:

      What’s wrong with that?

    • forensic says:

      Mo is awesome, so if he’s saying he’s not, then he’s wrong.

      But if he’s saying he isn’t as important as people can make him out to be, then he’s right. A guy throwing his number of innings can only have so much value, especially if comparing him to other top tier closers in which the drop off in number of wins would likely be somewhat minor overall.

      Do you not remember how absurd this place was getting when he got hurt? Like a family member died and they should just give up on the season and nearly dissolve the franchise.

      He’s awesome, but his value and importance, especially during the regular season, has typically been overblown because of who he is, how he does it, and how long he’s been doing it for.

      • Jimmy Is Key To David's Cone says:

        This is exactly right.

        The importance of this or that closer generally has been massively overblown. Does your pitcher have a powerful fastball and a powerful second pitch — preferably cutter or slider? Does he have reasonable control? Great, we probably have a decent closer. Which is not to minimize how much ability it takes to be a decent closer. It’s just to say that the difference in games won between a decent closer and Mo is probably not all that great. It’s just three outs after all. For a while there even Boone Logan was decent at getting three outs. (And now in stampede anybody who ever does color for ESPN — but it’s the most important three outs! It takes a special player, someone who knows how to Win, to get those final three outs! Blah blah blah. If anything I might guess that the last three outs are the easiest in non-crucial games, because if it’s 2 outs nobody on and you’re down by two or three maybe you just want to get back to the hotel.)

      • jjyank says:

        Maybe this is just my inner child, but disagree, strongly. He’s the greatest relief pitcher to ever step foot on a baseball field. This isn’t an Eric Gagne, someone who was great for a couple years. This is a first ballot hall of famer. Soriano stepping up has surely mitigated that. But considering the woes of the bullpen now, it sure would look a hell of a lot better if Soriano and Robertson were pushed back an inning, no?

        I agree that relievers throw less innings, and are therefor less valuable than starters. And for the record, I was not a bridge-jumper when Mo got injured (not that I ever have been a bridge-jumper).

        But think of how many games the bullpen has blown of late, and how long the Yankees have needed a non-OOGY reliever. Mo is more valuable than you make it seem, and the Yankees would likely be up a couple more games in the standings had he not gotten hurt.

        Again, disclaimer: Mo is a childhood hero of mine, so I will defend his value to the death. But I really do thing that your comment actually undervalues him. No team in recent history (meaning after relievers were introduced) had the assurances Mo provides.

  19. Kramerica Industries says:

    Example #1542 of AL parity this year:

    Kansas City sweeps Detroit, holding them to one run in the last two games of the series.

    Unreal. The best team in the AL changes from week to week.

  20. Rocky Road Redemption says:

    On the Mo discussion:

    Mo is my favorite player. When I went to my first live game in 2009 (yes, it did indeed take me that long) it was game 3 of walk-off weekend-the Damon HR game. I remember before the game being disappointed because Mo had pitched two innings the night before, so I assumed there was no way he’d be pitching.

    In my mind, then and now, A-Rod is one of the best 3b of all time. Jeter is one of the best SS of all time. But Mo? Mo is the BEST closer of all time, bar none. When Mo got hurt, I was as depressed as the rest of you, because he’s Mariano Fucking Rivera.

    That said, here’s the thing about closers: Every year there are going to be closers at or near Mo’s level of competency. Soriano, for example, is putting more men on base but results-wise he’s Mo-like. Brad Lidge saved every single game he was in for Philly in 08′. Joe Nathan and Papelbon both had a few years where they were dominant.

    Mo’s value is not his dominance as a closer in any given year; that dominance can be replicated by any given player for one season. The incredibly thing about Mariano is not his longevity either; Trevor Hoffman had that.

    What makes Mo so incredible is his combination of the two. Mo has managed to sustain a dominance level that puts him among the top five relief pitchers in the league for every single year he’s pitched since 1996 (besides this one) with remarkably few injuries (*cries*). In a game where relief pitchers are wildly unstable Mo has been a fixed needle.

    The Yankees could survive without Mo. But they’ll need to do it year by year. Closers, your most dominant relief pitchers, are important. The Yankees had someone they could stick into the 9th inning every year and forget about because they knew he’d be brilliant.

    But when he’s gone every season there’s going to be a chaotic adjustment period as new relief pitchers are stuck frantically into the closer’s role until we find a good fit. It won’t be automatic, and in the meantime the Yankees are going to lose some games unless they get lucky, like this year (and even this year we got a taste of what it’ll be like when we had D-Rob in the 9th).

    There’s one other thing about Mo that makes him unique: his playoff dominance. It’s insane. Unheard of. We are NEVER going to get somebody who can pitch that dominantly for so many playoff innings ever again. His ERA is below 1. I remember that in 09′, when we made a run all the way to the final game, it actually dropped.

    So for any one season, Mo’s value is pretty limited. But over the span of years, and in the playoffs, he is an enormously important player. And with the bullpen woes, we could REALLY use him right now.

    Hope he’s back with a vengeance in 2013.

    • Rocky Road Redemption says:

      (BTW, to address what I KNOW you’re all thinking right now, as I’m sure you all remember Mo indeed come in for one inning in the Damon HR game. The inning was scoreless. I believe there was one strikeout, although I can’t be certain.

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