Monday Night Open Thread

Pena in the running to manage in 2013 World Baseball Classic
Randy Levine talks to MLB.com's Barry Bloom
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For the final time during the 2012 regular season, the Yankees had a scheduled off-day today. They’ll wrap the year up with 16 games in 16 days, including the next six at home. Only three of those 16 games — this weekend’s home series against the Athletics — will be played against a team with a winning record. That said, you know the Blue Jays (seven games) and Red Sox (three games) will come to play. Those clubs are essentially in their playoffs right now and would love nothing more than to throw a wrench into the Bombers’ postseason plans.

Anyway, here is your open thread for the evening. The Mets are playing the Phillies and the pitching matchup is top notch (Dickey vs. Lee), plus MLB Network will air a game as well. Those of you in the Tri-State Area will see the Rays at the Red Sox (Cobb vs. Cook). The Broncos and Falcons are your Monday Night Football game. You folks know how these things work by now, so have at it.

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Pena in the running to manage in 2013 World Baseball Classic
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  • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Kramerica Industries

    I always love those nights when rooting for the Red Sox is the smart Yankees’ fan choice.

    • jjyank

      I don’t. It makes me feel dirty.

      I get the point is that it means the Red Sox are out of contention. But still. I think I need a shower.

      • OldYanksFan

        +1

    • Brian S.

      If they win they lose draft position and the Rays are further behind us. Also if Cody Ross does well they have to pay him more this offseason. I’m just hoping to see Pedroia and their prospects continue to struggle.

  • Giancarlo Stanton 2017

    Just a question on how world series rings work…If the yankees win it this year, will guys like Darnell McDonald and DJ Mitchell get rings even though they were only on the team for a few days?

    Just curious. Thanks guys (and girls)

    • jjyank

      Pretty sure it’s up to the team’s discretion, and I’m pretty sure the Yankees are very generous with that discretion. So yes, those two probably get a ring.

    • jesse

      Almost certain they do.

    • MannyGeee

      How great will it be if Darnell McDonald gets a ring from the Yankees. Again, suck it Sox!

    • Pat D

      They didn’t give rings to Bob Wickman or Gerald Williams back in 1996. But I think their stance has softened since then.

      • JohnnyC

        Ruben Sierra, Mark Hutton, Williams, and Wickman received their rings in June 1997. The Yankees amended their former policy of not awarding rings to traded players.

        • Pat D

          Did not know that. Thanks for the info.

          • vicki

            also, ice gets a ring from the captain on a regular basis. know’m sayin?

  • CountryClub

    O’s get Noesi tonight. That’s not very promising….

    • CUYanks

      Noesi pitches his most important game for the Yankees tonight.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I hope he tears off the Mariner jersey to reveal some pinstripes in the 8th inning.

        • CUYanks

          That will be his celebration after he completes his 81-pitch, 27-k perfect game. He then will retire and we can get to work designing his plaque in monument park.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            …..next to Eduardo Nunez, of course.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    *tumbleweed blows by* These parts are dead tonight, huh?

    • jjyank

      Yep. But I’m here, bored as ever.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Let’s talk politics.

        • RetroRob

          Did someone say rape?

        • jjyank

          Mkay. President Bashar al-Assad is an ass.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            I’ll freely admit I had to Google his name.

            • jjyank

              It’s okay. I’m a foreign policy nut and the Middle East is my wheel-house. I wouldn’t expect him to be a house-hold name, though that civil war has been going on for ~18 months now.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Plouffy, you need to friend jjyank on FB, then me.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        lol ok, what are your real names. I know through posts that jj’s first name is actually justin. However I have no idea how to find you two.

        • jjyank

          Meh, if I tell you what filters to apply, anyone here can figure it out anyways. My name is Justin LeMoine. Have at it RAB, I don’t really care.

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            That was almost too easy. I think I just friend requested you anyway.

            • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

              And I think I found Robinson…tell me jj is his true first name Jorge?

              • jjyank

                Yeah that’s him. Friend him up.

            • jjyank

              Accepted. But who the hell is Stephanie? I won’t throw out the last name, but I also had a request from someone named Stephanie an her profile pic is the Patriots logo. That’s getting denied unless someone comes forward.

              • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                fucked if I know…I thought the only girls on here where Erica, Betty, and Vicki.

                • jjyank

                  Oh well. Denied.

                  • Robinson Tilapia

                    Let me know when you get the Eddard request.

                    • jjyank

                      “Wait…why the fuck is Smeagol from Lord of the Rings friend requetin—ooohhhhh. Okay.”

                      *Denies*

                    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                      dude, your son is adorable btw.

                    • jjyank

                      +1 there. Really is a cute kid. Get him to throw lefty and you have a real heart-breaker on your hands, R-Tils.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      Thanks, both of you. He’s pretty fucking awesome.

                    • Pat D

                      Oh, you kids with your Facebook.

                • rek4gehrig

                  and rek4gehrig

      • Joe

        Anyone want to be my twitter friend?

  • Rocky Road Redemption

    Wow. For once, a dude from Yahoo totally nailed it. This new wildcard system sucks, and for the exact reasons he gives.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/1…..-race.html

    I really hate Bud as commissioner. He sucks.

    • Rocky Road Redemption
    • JimIsBored

      It’s always about the money. More fans being interested later in the year = more money.

    • jjyank

      Haven’t read the article yet, but I already agree. I hate the new wildcard system and I hate Bud Selig.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I hate this new system even more than I hate the attempt to assign some value to the ASG. All just awful, awful changes to baseball.

    • Rocky Road Redemption

      As a response to you all, what’s happening now is my EXACT issue with the new system. I want the playoff race to be a legitimate battle between teams that earned their division, not a slog to the finish to see what shitty team had the best final two months.

    • ruben sierra’s defense

      As things stand now, it’s likely that both wildcards will have a better record than the AL Central winner, and possible that a third non-wildcard (Tampa or LA) also has a better record than the AL Central winner. And they won’t just have a better record — they will have gotten it against better teams, since they play in a more challenging division. But still, the Central winner will go to the playoffs, because…well, because whatever.

      I think they should just abolish divisions or at least ignore them for seeding purposes, since they are still useful for scheduling purposes. I would also be fine with a 6-team playoff NFL style without the 1-game sudden death BS — at least make it best-of-3.

    • vicki

      selig sucks. goodell sucks. but stern makes them both seem competent.

  • RetroRob

    The Yankees will wrap up the season with 16 games in 15 days. When’s the day-night DHer after tomorrow’s game is rained out?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      It’s going to pour tomorrow.

      • RetroRob

        I know. Does the forecast clear, even later in the evening? I can see them waiting this one out, starting at 10:00. No room on the schedule, Blue Jays last trip into NY, then the Yankees go on the road after the A’s series.

        If they push the DH to the next day, and they still plan to pitch Pettitte, it could really tax the pen with Pettitte pitching only a few innings, then the bullpen needed and then a second game.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          weather.com has rain at 90% during the day, 100% at night. not looking good.

          • RetroRob

            100%? Yeah, that’s not good! A rain-out seems unavoidable. If the forecast is that bleak, hopefully they call it early and announce if the DH is on Wednesday or Thursday.

  • Hall and Nokes

    Oof, the Trop is flat-out empty tonight.

    • Get Phelps Up

      In other words, the sky is blue.

      • jjyank

        Or an ugly off-white color littered with catwalks, in the case of the Trop.

        • vicki

          “this place is a lotta things, suzyn, but it’s no place to play a baseball game.”

  • RetroRob

    A Tampa-Oakland series would be interesting, in the sense of two ugly parks that will be only 2/3rds full. Maybe 2/3rds full.

    MLB needs to do something about both those situations. The A’s actually still have a fan base. I’m still not sure what the Rays have. Not sure I buy it’s the park’s location. It’s part of it, but not all of it.

    • Get Phelps Up

      I want the Rays to move to Portland.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Oregon? In another life, I’LL move to Portland.

    • MannyGeee

      Nah, TB will start giving away tickets to fill the park like they do every October. Yeah. EVERY. October. And the Yankees subsidize this behavior with revenue sharing

      Good thing the Yankees overspending is the real problem, Selig. Asshole

  • Mike N

    According to the weather forecasts I’ve seen, there is close to zero chance they will play at Yankee Stadium tomorrow night.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      so…what you’re saying is I should bring my umbrella to work tomorrow?

  • Joe

    Who’s watching Monday Night Football?

    I need Ryan and Prater to outscore Turner tonight in fantasy.

    • CUYanks

      Turner is pretty horrible these days. I need Tamme + Thomas to score > 11 points.

      • CUYanks

        Well I’m assuming you probably don’t appreciate Turner starting his drives at the 1 yard line.

        • Joe

          I was typing that on a football blogs game thread. You read my mind. Hopefully this isn’t a TD and Ryan will play action next play.

          • CUYanks

            Or run it in on a sneak.

            • Joe

              Neither.

  • Mike N

    I’m bringing mine!

    • Mike N

      Umbrella, that is.

  • Mike N

    That is so horrible that I just cheered a little bit for a Red Sock two-run homer.

    • Joe

      I don’t even bother cheering against teams unless it’s really needed. Like cheering against Baltimore is needed. Tampa Bay is kinda just there.

      • Mike N

        I’d like them to stay irrelevant. And it was just a small weak cheer. Kind of like “yay”, and not like “YAYAYAYAY!! YIPPY!!!!!!!!!”

  • The DonSlaught

    What’s gone down faster:

    1) The Red Sox playoff chances last year.

    2) Mitt Romney’s election chances this year

    • Mike N

      Did you see that surreptitious video that was taken when he was speaking “candidly” to some very wealthy donors in what he thought was private?

      • art vandelay

        link ?

        • Mike N
          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            Foot meet mouth…How can he say with a straight face that 47% of Americans don’t pay income tax knowing that he and most likely every donor in that room has skirted paying income tax for years?

            • jjyank

              Because he’s an ass hat. I’m sorry to get into politics here. I usually abstain on RAB and in general (I like IR, not domestic), but most of the people will vote for Romney because there’s a little “R” next to his name. Not that Obama is at all perfect, but Romney has flip flopped so many time I don’t even know what he stands for anymore, he fucks up the easiest of easy PR trips, he pisses off every other nation before he’s even elected…God I just hate the guy. Sorry everyone. /end rant

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Because it plays perfectly at the fundraiser he was at. Facts? Who needs them.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                That’s it for me and politics here for the night except for blog recs, etc.

              • MannyGeee

                Yeah.. Screw facts and common sense!

                Wait, does Mitt Romney post on the site?

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Pretty much any progressive blog’s got it. Check out either talkingpointsmemo.com or dailykos.com.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I highly recommended reading fivethirtyeight.com on the latter. I love how Nate Silver cuts to the core of all the polling out there. I hit him up several times a day.

      • Mike N

        Yeah, I am obsessed with fivethirtyeight.com.

        • RetroRob

          Hey you idiots, let’s talk about rape.

          • RetroRob

            Seriously, take this shit elsewhere.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              George Carlin actually has a famous bit as to whether you can joke about rape. Not that I want to go back to that conversation, but it’s all I thought about reading that thread, wanted to mention it, but thought things were too riled up at the time.

              Anyways, use the Google if you’re interested.

            • Mike N

              This is an open thread, “you idiot”. If you don’t like open threads, don’t visit them.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                Rob was joking.

                • Mike N

                  If so, then sorry. I obviously didn’t get the joke.

                  • Robinson Tilapia

                    It was a reference to another thread a few days back that got so out of hand Mike locked it out.

                    It’s all good, Mike. Hard to keep track of what’s serious and what’s sarcastic sometimes.

          • ruben sierra’s defense

            How about we talk about the politics behind men thinking they can just casually bring up rape as a way of complaining about blog conversations? “The Presidential election” is a hot cultural topic that people talk about a lot, even though a lot of what they say is kind of annoying. “Rape” is not merely an annoying conversational topic; it is something that ruins people’s lives, something that women to some degree must live perpetually in fear of because their lack of physical strength relative to men and all the social norms accompanying that power relationship, et cetera. Of course if you’re not a woman, and you’re not living in a prison, you have the privilege of not having to worry too seriously about being victimized that way — so you can carelessly compare talking about it to talking about, gawd fawbid, a Presidential election.

            • jjyank

              It was a reference to a previous discusion on this blog. Nobody is making like of rape in a serious manner.

              • vicki

                i’ll say in sierra’s defense’s defense that smart, reasonable, thoughtful people seem to be missing his point (thereby making it, interestingly); ie, that a breezy quip about even discussing rape is a ruthless luxury. that society has backlashed, whitewashed, downplayed and undermined the soul-killing act of rape to the point where it’s become shorthand for “dude, brutal.”

                i’m a girl and i’m guilty. i make light, make jokes. consider me impeached. poster is articulate and poignant. i appreciate it.

                wasn’t present for the cited ignominious thread and wouldn’t want to bolster bad behavior. but nobody reads open threads the next day so no harm, right?

                go bombers.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              The problem with lectures like these is that you literally have no idea who it is you’re lecturing.

              The word can mentioned in reference to a past thread on here and in no way act towards glorifying the act itself. You can attempt to make the connection to gender and, in the grand majority of cases, you’d be right. I don’t believe you’re right in this one, though.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                Obviously, we need to bury that whole thread once and for all, it seems like.

                It never happened. Kinda like Sam Pearce.

  • Joe

    Guys I’m looking for a writing spot. You guys know if RAB is looking for a possible once a week writer? I manage this baseball blog but we’re pulling in like 20,000 views a month. Trying to get more exposure and take on less of a role.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Your best bet is to email Mike, Ben, or Joe. I’ve thought about asking a few times, but I’ve never really done the kind of analysis they do here.

      • Joe

        Thing is I click on the hyperlink email for Mike and nothing happens.

      • jjyank

        RAB could use a few fluff pieces in the offseason. I’d say go for it, if they let you.

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          I’m still debating whether I want to write a full satire using the Grit Factor stat I joke around about occasionally.

          • jjyank

            I’d love it if that happened.

          • vicki

            grit is REAL.

    • jjyank

      Email Mike. I know they did the weekend writer thing for awhile, but a couple of them got some real world obligations that game up and that measured it down a bit. Less of an issue during the season, but if you measure up, I’m sure Mike/Joe/Ben would appreciate some offseason content. Not to speak for you guys, just know that you’ve done it in the past and Hannah and Moshe don’t post anymore.

      • Joe

        Does anyone know their emails? The hyperlinks aren’t working for me.

        • RetroRob

          Maybe you don’t have an email reader installed to launch? You can drag your cursor over the link to see their emails and then send directly.

          I’m not sure they’re looking. They’ve done a call out in the past, but if you have a blog and some samples, then provide a link for them to review.

          • Joe

            Yea I have a lot of samples. Thanks Rob. Always worth a shot. Trying to get my name out there.

  • My-ee ey-ee by-ee ahee ah woo Ma Ma Ma My Kuroda

    I miss when this was all about sports instead of getting infiltrated with politics.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I know. I know. It’s just fresh on a lot of people’s minds close to election season and, even when we don’t want to, it’s easy to be prodded.

      You’re 100% correct, though.

    • jjyank

      Well it’s an open thread. As long as we don’t virtually kill each other, we can talk about whatever we want. You want pure baseball talk? Well then don’t read the OPEN (emphasis on “open”) threads.

      • My-ee ey-ee by-ee ahee ah woo Ma Ma Ma My Kuroda

        Been spilling over into other threads as well.

        • jjyank

          Hasn’t been pervasive at all. In fact, it’s been extremely minimal. I can only think of one non-open thread that got “invaded” by politics. And even that didn’t last long.

    • Mike N

      This is an open thread.

      • My-ee ey-ee by-ee ahee ah woo Ma Ma Ma My Kuroda

        I’m sure politics is what RAB had in mind.

        • Mike N

          Yeah, let’s argue about whether a tiny bit of non-contentious political discussion in an open thread is “what RAB had in mind”. That’s a much more rewarding topic than the tiny bit of non-contentious political discussion itself.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            The correct answer to this, of course, is Eduardo Nunez.

            • My-ee ey-ee by-ee ahee ah woo Ma Ma Ma My Kuroda

              Haha!

            • MannyGeee

              #CashmansFault

        • jjyank

          Why not? Why would they even post Open Threads if they didn’t want to allow us the opportunity to talk about something other than sports? If you don’t want to talk politics in an open thread, then move along. As far as I can tell, as long as things remain civil, it’s all good.

          • My-ee ey-ee by-ee ahee ah woo Ma Ma Ma My Kuroda

            Why does does the individual(s) not wanting to discuss politics on a baseball blog have to move along? Why not vise versa?

            • Mike N

              The concept of an open thread is that anyone can talk about anything they want, within the usual bounds of the commenting rules here. This is what an open thread is. If you aren’t comfortable with participating in an open thread, then why would you subject yourself to it?

              • FIPster Doofus

                He probably clicked on it not expecting another annoying political discussion, only to be disappointed.

            • jjyank

              Um. Do I really need to explain this to you? It is an open thread. An OPEN thread. This means that as long as we remain civil, we can discuss what ever we want to. Open threads are not at all restricted to sports talk. If you’re not comfortable with that, then move along. No vice versa. You’re wrong on that.

              • My-ee ey-ee by-ee ahee ah woo Ma Ma Ma My Kuroda

                Take it to a political blog.

    • RetroRob

      Sorry, stepped away for a few minutes. Was just over on a DNC and then an RNC open blog talking about sports.

      I’m not aware of any specific RAB guideline that says you can’t talk about politics, although I have seen our moderators basically end the discussions when they pop up. Most RAB posters have been respectful enough to remember this is a sports blog. The first intelligent political discussion I see will be, well, the first intelligent political discussion I’ve seen. Basically they fall into two camps. Outright deception on both sides, or a group of like-minded types masturbating each other.

      I’d rather clip my toe nails. Come to think of it. They’re getting a touch long.

    • FIPster Doofus

      Me too. It’s really obnoxious.

  • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

    Hey Tom Riddle, I just read that article about the 2nd wild card you linked to above. I’m not sure where I stand on the wild card system yet, but I disagree with a lot of what the article is saying.

    First, he’s listing a bunch of teams that he says have a chance, which is really an exaggeration. He has the Padres in there. Coolstandings give them a 0.1% chance of making the WC. So they aren’t “in the race” in any real sense. He also uses the Phillies as a prime example, despite them having a 1.1% chance of making it. I don’t think baseball is ruined if 1 out of 100 years, a team like the Phillies makes the Wild Card.

    Second, when he complains about mediocre teams possibly making the playoffs, he’s using “making the playoffs” as if it means what it used to. Making the Wild Card means you have essentially a 50% chance of advancing to the real playoffs (or what were previously the full playoffs), which you begin at a disadvantage having used one of your best starters up in the WC game. So yes, mediocre teams are technically going to “make the playoffs,” but they’ll be at a massive disadvantage compared to the division winners and compared to playoffs teams of the past.

    • Mike N

      A wild-card slot used to be almost exactly as valuable as winning the division. The new wild-card system makes it much less valuable to be a wild-card team than it used to be. Accordingly, it makes it much more valuable to win your division relative to being a wild-card team than it used to be. This means teams fight much harder to win their division rather than happily settle for the wild-card, like they used to do.

      I think this is great, and leads to more relevant exciting baseball towards the end of the season.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      That was actually RRR that posted it, but I really don’t have any opinions on the addition of the 2nd W/C. I have huge objections w/ how it’s implemented though. It should’ve gone into effect next season w/ a 3 game series to decide it, and w/o this stupid 2-3 format for the LDS rounds.

      • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

        Oh yeah, whoops. You both have R’s in your names, I guess, and I’m out of it from tending to a newborn. :)

        And yeah, I agree that it’s silly how they totally screwed things up for this year, and that a 1 game series decides the WC.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          How’s the newborn thing going?

  • Brian S.

    Newcastle is delicious

    • Mike N

      You ever have a brown and bitter? First you pour half a pint of bitter, and then you carefully pour brown ale on top, so it doesn’t mix too much.

    • jjyank

      Agreed. Though my favorite beer will always be Magic Hat. Nostalgia plays a big part in that, but they really do make great beer.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      A very early “favorite beer” of mine.

      I think I’ve settled on Dogfish 90 Minute IPA and Brooklyn Local 1 as my all-time favorites at this point.

      • Mike N

        I would like to try Obama’s White House beer.

        • Cris Pengiucci

          Try a Polygamy Porter if you get the chance. It’s made by the Wasatch Brewing Company in Park City Utah (of course). Slogans are “Why have just one?” and “Bring some home to the wives!”, but truly is a good beer. And I don’t think drinking it is making a statement that you favor a particular Mormon presidential candidate. :-)

          I’m just got back from Berlin and tasted many outstanding dark beers there. I’m spoiled for a bit and not sure when I’ll be going back to beers available in the states (although I do like Newcastle).

          There are a lot of good local brews in CO. One of the more popular breweries that seems to be getting a bit more national attention is Bristol Brewing company, the makers of Fat Tire, among others. Good stuff.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      New Castle is tasty…my all time favorite is Sam Adam’s Oktoberfest though.

    • MannyGeee

      There’s no ale quite like a British ale. Don’t know if there’s an ‘old style British pub’ anywhere near you where you can get A proper Cask Ale, but I highly recommend it.

      It’s essentially a non filtered & non pasteurized beer where they don’t use additional nitrogen or carbon dioxide in it, and it’s hand pumped from the keg. Typically served room temp or so, so it’s a little mind fuck to your American psyche.

      Fullers London Pride & Bombadier are my favorites, if you can get em cask drawn.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Innins & Gunn, bitches.

  • Pat D

    Aw, man, I missed the politics talk.

    It’s been entirely too nice around here recently, let’s get at each other’s throats!

    • RetroRob

      We were waiting for you to reopen discussions.

      • Pat D

        Yea, I forgot to be here on time tonight.

        All I’ll say is that Romney quote is priceless. Pretty disdainful about the disabled and the unemployed, it seems. Well, it’s not my dad’s fault he’s disabled and it ain’t my fault I’m unemployed.

        That is all.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Eduardo Nunez is so great that, if you bat him sixth in the lineup, you can bat his dick seventh and rest Russell Martin.

    • My-ee ey-ee by-ee ahee ah woo Ma Ma Ma My Kuroda

      Nunez wears a live rattlesnake as a condom.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    I hate to bring up politics again, but how exactly does the electoral college works? Who are they, that they get to decide the outcome of the election over the popular vote?

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      I’d just look it up, but I’m currently downloading the Friends, the complete series, so I have an IP blocker that prevents access from major studios (fox,ABC,CBS,ect) and government IPs from accessing my computer.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        PeerBlock? It’s good, but far from perfect.

        I’ve looked into the idea of VPNs and proxies a ton. Figuring out what truly protects you and what’s just show is a chore.

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          Yep, Peerblock. I know it’s not perfect, but I’m very careful about what torrents I download to begin with, and I make sure I never upload anything(that’s where the real trouble is.)

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Certainly depends on what you’re uploading. If you’re messing with TV and movies, that’s pretty low-hanging fruit.

            • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

              I’ve only ever gotten in trouble for downloading/uploading episodes 200 and 201 of South Park (the ones that got banned because of the whole Muhammad thing)

              • Robinson Tilapia

                Define “trouble.”

                • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                  A notice in the mail from my internet provider and Viocom. The first asking me to please stop the unauthorized sharing of properties that aren’t mine, the one from Viocom threatening to sue my pants off if I continued to share their intellectual properties w/o their permission.

                  • Robinson Tilapia

                    Yeah, that’s “trouble.”

                    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                      So then I got Peerblocker, stopped uploading things after I downloaded them, I usually watch and delete, and I stopped downloading as often as I used to as well.

                    • Pat D

                      So I guess I can’t ask you to download stuff for me, huh?

                  • RetroRob

                    Ummm, yeah,, that’s trouble.

                    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                      It’s not recent though, over a calender year ago now I think.

    • Mike N

      Feeble, dude.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        I’m actually not joking. I am completely ignorant to almost all things politics, I spent literally all of my teenage years being “anti-government” and my only political thought was “weed should be legal man.” Now that I’m a little older I’ve decided to take some interest in it.

        • Mike N

          I thought you were joking around about blocking the government from your computer.

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            I’m sure the gov could get around it if they wanted to, but I can’t access websites like whitehouse.gov for example while it’s up.

            • Cris Pengiucci

              “I’m sure the gov could get around it if they wanted to,”

              :-)

    • Robinson Tilapia

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E....._States%29

      It’s a fascinating system. Would I prefer direct election? Not quite sure. From a political junkie perspective, I find this more interesting every time.

      • Pat D

        I would have linked to Wikipedia, too, but I thought from his statements that he couldn’t get there.

        I’ve been in favor of dumping the electoral college ever since 2000. Shouldn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out why.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Basically throwing the entire course of the country off-course was a pretty good sign it was time to move out of Florida.

          • Pat D

            He smiled when he talked about the war. Just always told me that his brain couldn’t comprehend the words he had memorized or read off a prompter.

          • pistol pete

            Bush would have never won Florida if all the votes got counted and I voted for him. Now this year Gov Scott is dumping voter rolls to hold down the vote to push Romney over the line. I’m not a democrat but fair is fair.

      • MannyGeee

        It sure does add the air of WWE style drama, don’t it.

    • Pat D

      The electoral college is a sum of every states’ representatives and senators. It’s based on population. It get adjusted after the results of every census.

      As far as who the electors are, it’s really not that important. I believe every state is winner take all, though sometimes there seems to be slight discrepancies. They are people who are either selected or chosen and pledge to vote for whoever carries that state’s popular vote.

      • Mike N

        Maine and Nebraska allocate their district-based electoral votes by who wins in each district, and then the two Senator-based votes go to the overall winner. Since they enacted this system (Maine in the 70s, Nebraska in the 90s), it has never resulted in a split electoral vote.

        • Pat D

          I figured I was wrong on that point.

        • Tom Q

          Actually, that’s not true: Obama took the Omaha-included district in Nebraska in ’08, even while McCain carried the state.

        • pistol pete

          Wrong, Barack Obama won Nebraska district 2 and got 1 electoral vote in 2008. It’s the Omaha area an urban section of Nebraska with a higher level of minority population than any other district in Nebraska.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        But who decides who the electors are…I mean who is to say they aren’t in a certain candidates pocket in any given election?

        • Robinson Tilapia

          State committees of each party decide on the electoral college members.

          Has there been a case when electoral votes HAVEN’T matched the popular vote of a state? I certainly don’t recall one.

          Worry more about voter suppression than the electoral college.

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            I’m slightly concerned with voter suppression, but honestly, if a bum like me can get a drivers license w/ next to no effort, and you really want to vote, it’s easy enough to get a government sanctioned ID.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Not THAT easy. It’s also about getting the word out that you need one to vote. They’re banking on enough people (of color, of course) getting to the polls and being turned away that it will turn a state like Pennsylvania (it won’t work, but whatever.)

              It is so incredibly disgraceful that, in 2012, we have to talk about things like this.

              • Pat D

                Hey! Who are you to attack my glorious state?

                I mean, it’s also not like the state government gerrymandered the congressional districts so that they separated the cities of Allentown and Bethlehem from Easton or anything.

                Oh, wait. Yea, they did do that.

              • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                It’s really strange, I was just always under the impression that you needed an ID to vote anyway…I mean, it’s not like it happens often but shouldn’t one need to prove they are a citizen of the state/country that their about to vote for the representative of?

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  In theory, yes, but we’ve gotten through with someone checking your name in the book and your signature matching up with what’s there from your voter registration.

                  It’s about making things difficult and the element of surprise turning those most likely not to have that ID away at the door, not about making sense.

                  • Pat D

                    I think the ID issue is getting a lot of play in newspapers right now. How many people see those newspapers is another story.

                    But, yea, I’ve always felt that this ID issue was meant to discourage or turn away minorities and the elderly.

                    • vicki

                      indeed.

                      inalienable.

                      this doesn’t speak to the slick timing but states requiring id’s would need to offer them to all citizens for free, yes?

                  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

                    No, I completely agree that the way they are doing it is dead wrong, if they were doing it with the idea of being “right” or “making sense” there would be huge billboards saying “Remember: If you’re planning to vote, make sure you have an ID!!”

        • Mike N

          Each party selects their own electors, and then officially the voters of the state are voting for the electors, not their party’s nominee. So the electors get elected, and then vote for their party’s candidate in the electoral college. There has been talk like this in the past that electors would refuse to vote for their party’s candidate for some reason or another, but as far as I know, it has never happened.

  • Mike N

    Baltimore just scored three runs in the top of the fucking first.

    • JLC 776

      Leadoff HR and then 2 more runs with no one on and two out… go figure.

      I guess I can’t be mad at Seattle being Seattle though…

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Without Nunez in the lineup? IMPOSSIBLE.

      • MannyGeee

        I wonder if Seattle would take a do over on the Pineda trade and take Nunez instead of Montero…

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Have Jack Z call Eddard. That should get the job done.

  • Pat D

    Prater kicked an extra point. I just won my fantasy game!

    • Joe

      I’m not looking until the end, but this helps me. Ryan needs to outplay Turner. Not sure if he has yet. I was down 3 points to start the game.

  • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Kramerica Industries

    Be more worthless, Seattle.

  • MannyGeee

    4 years later, America is still not ready for a black President…. Discuss

    #shakinghornets’nest

    • https://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

      What is it “lets try to get banned from RAB” night? Did I miss the memo again?

      • Robinson Tilapia

        His fault.

        Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle says:
        September 17, 2012 at 7:47 pm

        *tumbleweed blows by* These parts are dead tonight, huh?

    • Pat D

      Yea, I kinda agree with that.

      I’m ready. Certain others it seems…not so much.

  • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Kramerica Industries

    And Noesi’s in further trouble.

    This could be ugly for the Mariners.

    • Joe

      We need to sweep Toronto.

      • JLC 776

        I’m praying that Felix acts like Felix and that we’re still a game up entering the Oakland series.

    • YankeeDave

      Looks like Noesi is pitching batting practice in Seattle. More runs than outs so far. We will be up a half game in the morning.

  • Yankeefan

    so has anyone seen what these 2 did at yankee stadium ?

    http://deadspin.com/5943639/ns.....ee-innings

    • https://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

      I’m jealous I didn’t think of it first.

    • RetroRob

      I still think the “related link” from Fenway mid-90s was more “interesting.”

    • Joe

      WOAH! You made me laugh my food all over my keyboard! You owe me a new one!

    • MannyGeee

      This was in this mornings thread… I sat somewhere in between disgusted, ashamed for America, and aroused.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      That’s epic. I wish it would’ve been me.

  • Joe

    What other Yankees blogs are out there? I’ve visited about four or five. RAB is the best by far.

    • Pat D

      The only other ones I’ve gone to in the past are the LoHud blog, which I really only go to now to check lineups for the day; NoMaas, just for the photoshops and to see how terrible the commenters are and how many people impersonate Mike, Ben or Joe (and I always vote down those comments); and Was Watching, which I boycotted from the moment that assclown badmouthed Dave Winfield in a post.

      • Joe

        No Pinstripe Alley on SBNation? I’m curious because I left there the other day. I couldn’t take the bull going on there. Constantly bickering over the name change since Pinstriped Bible took over.

        I just decided to seek a new blog for Yankees news and found out I wasn’t even at the best one. Now I am.

        • Pat D

          Never been to Pinstripe Alley. I should go to SBNation because I enjoy Rob Neyer’s writing, but I really, really hate that site’s format. I find it pretty unreadable.

          • Joe

            Pinstripe Alley is gone. They didn’t get views so they brought Steven Goldman from Pinstriped Bible and made it the new Yankees SBNation site.

            Neyer writes for Baseball Nation. I can’t stand Grant over there.

            I use SBNation for reading football news now. Specifically, the Dallas Cowboys site.

          • https://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

            Seconded, that site is a mess to read. I think the format of a site is largely under rated. For me, RAB is pretty damn perfect. Not too cluttered, not too empty. Well layed out with an easy to follow comment section.

            • Pat D

              Totally agree with you about site format. It’s one of the reasons I’ve stuck with RAB, it’s easy to read.

              There are two newspapers in my area and I find one completely unreadable which is why we don’t get that one.

            • Joe

              I find the SBNation comment section a little easier. All you have to do is click “z” and it filters through the comments.

              In every other aspect RAB wins.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I think the LoHud blog itself is excellent. The comment section went downhill ages ago. Yankee Analysts is always a solid read as well.

      • jjyank

        Yeah, those are the only other two I read. Lohud more than anything. Jennings seems like a good guy, and he gets more first hand access than guys who run their own blogs (no offense RAB). TYA is good too, great analysis. RAB is still the best mix of new and analysis though, IMO.

    • https://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

      The Yankee Analysts is probably the best and most similar in analysis to RAB. There used to be a blog roll list on the side of the page here but I’m not sure what happened to it.

  • Pat D

    So Manning just got horse collared in the pocket and apparently that’s NOT a penalty.

    W. O. W.

    • Joe

      Tirico said QB’s are allowed to get horse collared in the pocket. Go figure.

      • Pat D

        Makes no sense since they made the helmet to helmet hits a penalty to protect QB’s, and they made horse collar tackles penalties to discourage them and prevent injuries.

        So naturally when you add them up, it becomes no penalty.

        • Joe

          It’s idiotic.

  • Joe

    You all denied me on my question above about being twitter friends. My facebook is for groups in my network so we can plan business on the sites we have.

    • Pat D

      Oh, you kids and your Facebook and Twitter.

    • https://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

      I’ll follow just about anyone, I don’t post much myself though. Put your link in the “website” box when you comment and your username will become a hyperlink.

      • Joe

        I registered for an account. So I don’t have the box. @JARBTS

        • https://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

          Request sent.

          • Joe

            I’ll follow you after this football game. Thanks man!

  • MannyGeee

    NL Cy Young… Is it Dickey?

    • Joe

      Gio Gonzalez without a doubt. WAR WAR WAR! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?!

      Everything.

      • CUYanks

        They will definitely credit Dickey for the ~25 innings more than Gio he’s pitched. (this happened, i.e. with the Sabathia-Beckett vote a few years back)

        • Joe

          Being more valuable in less innings doesn’t get credited?

          • CUYanks

            Voters have done well in the recent past to look at things like WHIP and ERA as opposed to just wins, but if you expect writers to look at things beyond WHIP, ERA, K’s, K/BB, IP (all of which Dickey is leading), I think you’re asking too much.

            • Joe

              If getting it right is too much, then yea, I am.

              • CUYanks

                I don’t think it’s as clearcut as you think. There are real questions with fWAR for pitchers. There’s definitely not a consensus that it is superior to bWAR, and when pretty much ALL of the traditional and traditional/somewhat SABR-friendly stats favor R.A., it confounds the issue.

                • Joe

                  You’re right. It’s close, but I have Gonzalez slightly ahead of Dickey.

                  • CUYanks

                    Fair enough. I’d probably lean DIckey and I think the writers would (at least between those 2) for now, but its so close that the next few starts could easily decide it. Kershaw losing starts with injury certainly helps both of their cases.

                    • Joe

                      Who do you have in the AL?

                      Felix, Weaver, Price, Verlander, or Sale?

                      I’m fine with any of them winning it honestly.

                    • CUYanks

                      It’s really tough to call there. I might lean Price since most of the others have gotten one and he does lead the entire MLB in ERA pitching in the AL East. I don’t particularly favor Weaver considering all the the missed time, though all the others would be fine choices as well in my eyes.

                • RetroRob

                  I think fWAR is superior to bWAR when trying to assess luck and therefor using it for predictive purposes. When it comes to awards, I fall more toward bWAR. The pitcher might have been lucky, but he still did it.

            • CUYanks

              Also, Dickey leads BRef WAR by about the same amount that Gio leads him in fangraphs WAR, if I’m reading correctly.

    • Pat D

      I was leaning Cueto, but he hasn’t been very sharp lately.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I THINK I get Dickey on Sunday when I go to Citifield.

      • jjyank

        Your boy better still have a Yankee logo on him somewhere.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Oh, don’t you worry. He’s refusing hats right now, but he’s got a few t-shirts.

          • RetroRob

            Tell his godfather he’s wearing Mets diapers.

      • Joe

        Pause.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Sadly, this will be my only MLB game of the year. Been hard to get away this year with my little boy. I’m used to going to 10-12 games a year, so this has been pretty different.

          • Pat D

            I’ve only been to 2 games in the last decade. One in ’08 which they lost to Toronto, and one in ’09 where they beat the White Sox.

            My most recent game to them was in either 2000 or 2001 where the Mariners crushed them and the only good part of the game was Bernie Williams hitting a solo homer. I was getting drinks at the time.

            The disadvantages of living in PA.

          • Joe

            I’m going to my fourth MLB game this year, my third Yankee game. I saw Red Sox vs. Rangers in August at Fenway.

            I’ll be at the final game vs. the Red Sox too in October.

  • Pat D
    • https://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

      Did he think nobody would notice?

      • MannyGeee

        little known fact… there are some spanish speaking Canadians! Who knew!!

        what a fcking dummy…

    • RetroRob

      Crazy. Maybe Escobar and Delmon Young can go play for the same team.

  • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Kramerica Industries

    Weiters hit a home run.

    Freaking asshole.

    Not good for my fantasy team this week.