Oct
05

NL Wildcard Play-In Game Thread

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The Braves and Cardinals officially kick off the postseason this afternoon, as they meet in Atlanta in the first ever wildcard play-in game. The winner will advance to the NLDS and face the Nationals while the loser goes home. One game, winner take all. It’s fun as long as the Yankees aren’t involved. Kris Medlen (1.57 ERA and 2.42 FIP) vs. Kyle Lohse (2.86 ERA and 3.51 FIP) is your pitching matchup, and the game can be seen on TBS at 5:07pm ET. Talk about it here.

189 Comments»

  1. Eddard reboot v.1.0 says:

    Medlen will win. Braves shouldn’t even have to play this game against a team that is clearly inferior.

    • KeithK says:

      Then the Braves should have finished first and avoided the playoff game. One could also say that the Nats shouldn’t even have to play a series against the Braves (were they to advance to win) since Atlanta is clearly an inferior team. The moment you embrace the idea of a second place team making the playoffs you have tossed out this idea of “fairness”.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      You were wrong, as usual.

  2. Stratman9652 says:

    Kris Medlen looks like he got called up from Little League.

    Also how cool would it be knowing you are part of the first ever game of a new format? That ball will probably be on exhibit in the HOF with your name next to it for years to come.

  3. The Real Greg says:

    What a play by Heyward. Robs Molina of a homer

  4. vicki says:

    jason heyward.

    that is all.

  5. Ethan says:

    I hate the blackout system. I’m in canada, have mlb.tv but don’t have cable and can’t watch them.

  6. Souter Fell says:

    Craig couldve had that

  7. vinny-b says:

    why is it called “Play-In”? It sounds stupid

  8. Stratman9652 says:

    Seriously, who didn’t see that coming?

  9. The Real Greg says:

    David Ross with a 2 run homer. Braves up 2-0

  10. dkidd says:

    i want no part of the braves

    kimbrell’s numbers look like typos. if they get ahead, it’s over

    • vicki says:

      indeed. take it out of the bullpen’s hands: get an early lead and keep it, which is certainly doable.

      i know teams can change over a half-season, but yanks were solid against the nl east in interleague. swept natties, and were a bad phil hughes from taking five of six from the braves. of course medlen was in the bullpen then.

  11. vicki says:

    yep. two-run dinger to the seven-hole backup catcher. medlen on the mound. looking pretty good for the bravos de atlanta.

    and goodluck hinske in the dugout.

  12. The Real Greg says:

    Difference between a 2 run homer and striking out the side? Umpire granting time to a player.

    Lots of luck needed to win in the postseason

  13. nick says:

    Is it just me or is it odd when they keep saying this was a career year for heyward. I mean its year 3, small sample size?

  14. Stratman9652 says:

    These late time out calls are kinda ridiculous.

  15. Rocky Road Redemption says:

    Are Texas and Baltimore playing later today?

  16. The Real Greg says:

    RBI double for Allen Craig. Braves up 2-1. Cards have second and third with no outs.

  17. VT Yankee Fan says:

    Does TBS really not show the pitch count?

  18. The Real Greg says:

    Sac gtoundout by Molina and a sac fly by Freese have the Cardinals up 3-2

  19. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    It would be a shame if the Braves go out with Chipper as the goat.

  20. captain kiwi says:

    posteason.tv doesn’t have a tv broadcast style thingy? switching manually between the cams kinda sucks. also, since i live in georgia, i got A LOT of pissed off friends right now.

  21. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Jack Curry
    ?@JackCurryYES
    Ichiro said he loves Yankee clubhouse because no one is too high or too low. “Except Swisher,” he said. Funny line.

    heh

  22. Nathan says:

    I’m hoping the Braves stay in the postseason for a while. I’ve always admired Chipper and wouldn’t mind a Yankees/Braves rematch. I surely don’t want to see the Giants pitchers.

  23. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Wow, huge call, but correct.

  24. vicki says:

    woooooooow.

  25. Rocky Road Redemption says:

    Great call by the ump.

  26. The Real Greg says:

    Good call. Simmons was clearly on the grass

  27. JonS says:

    Man, NL baseball is soooo much different from watching AL ball.

  28. captain kiwi says:

    that call on simmons broke gameday.

  29. Zanath says:

    As the announcers said, there was no reason for Simmons to bunt there. Rookie mistake.

  30. The Real Greg says:

    I’m shocked that Fredi Gonzalez put that on. Not even Girardi would do that.

  31. Eddard reboot v.1.0 says:

    I hate NL bunting. Too much bunting. I guess Girardi isn’t the only one who would bunt 1st and 3rd, 1 out. Awful decision.

  32. adjusts batting gloves says:

    In the way of Yankee fans, I was moaning with a friend last night about the decline of A-Rod, why he’s batting third, still, yadda, yadda…But then we stumbled on to what seemed, at the time, like an interesting hypothesis for his decline. I wondered if A-Rod had developed a “steroid swing,” i.e. he was able to start his swing later and look at the ball longer because he knew he’d have this extra power. Now that he’s no longer A-Roid, he’s still in the habit of the late swing, which has led to his loss of power, his slightly increased strike-out totals, and, what seems observationally true, though I haven’t corroborated it with a good look at the spray chart, more weak outs to the right side, or more pop ups that would have once at least made the outfield…In other words, it’s not that he’s only experiencing a physical decline, it’s that he hasn’t been able to adjust his swing to account for his physical decline. Theory doesn’t quite account for the 30 HR 2010 season, which was presumably post-roid. I’m curious, though, what the RAB crew think about this. Does it seem plausible? What’s the way to corroborate it statistically, and has anyone done it? I.e. are there certain types of hits that known steroid users were likely to have in higher percentages than non-steroid users in their spray charts (e.g. opposite field HRS off of high fastballs)…
    Phew. Go Yanks!

  33. dkidd says:

    am I remembering correctly that teams can reset their rosters after the play-in game?

    so both teams are carrying more than the usual assortment of relievers?

  34. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Can’t hit HR’s in the postseason.

  35. nick says:

    I know its the 7th. but Cardinals have this, Atlanta cant do anything

  36. dkidd says:

    braves playing tight

    cards are like “been there, done that”

  37. Get Phelps Up says:

    The Braves are making Nunie look like a gold glover.

  38. Bo Knows says:

    Wow, Braves are choking hard….two years in a row they’ve shit the bed during the most important game of their year

  39. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Braves….smh

  40. dkidd says:

    little league

  41. Stratman9652 says:

    Wow, they do know this is a one game elimination right?

  42. vicki says:

    i think the polite thing would be to look away.

  43. Laz says:

    This is gonna be a sad way to end chippers career.

  44. Get Phelps Up says:

    The Braves are 0-9 at Turner Field when facing elimination.

  45. vicki says:

    mlb needs to put an end to that tomahawk chop stuff. it’s vuvuzela painful.

  46. Joe F says:

    I fell asleep at 4:00 woke up a few minutes ago. Poor Braves. I kinda rather them win. Tired of St. Louis.

  47. CountryClub says:

    Pettitte is throwing a pen right now with Hughes. I wonder if that tells us anything about gm 2?

  48. john says:

    Geez, the tomahawk chant got old really quick – i can’t wait for the apple tv to arrive so i can digitally remove that shite!

  49. Anthony says:

    They are calling that an infield fly???

  50. Bo Knows says:

    What the hell is going on? This is a strange game

  51. Professor Longnose says:

    Oh, wow. Amazing call. They can’t let it stand.

  52. Nathan says:

    Wow what a BS call.

  53. Bo Knows says:

    that can’t be an infield fly, that’s bull

  54. captain kiwi says:

    HOLY SHIT.

  55. Professor Longnose says:

    A legitimate infield fly, if the guy drops it, well, too bad. But this was way into left field.

  56. vicki says:

    stay classy, atlanta.

  57. PhillyMatt says:

    Stay classy Atlanta

  58. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Wait……what happened? That cannot possibly the Infield Fly Rule. Complete bullshit. Wow.

    • Professor Longnose says:

      The announcers are saying the call may have been why the fielders gave up on it. So you can’t overturn it, as bad a call as it was.

  59. Eddard reboot v.1.0 says:

    Classless move by Atlanta fans. Yankee fans would never do that.

  60. Hall and Nokes says:

    1 game playoffs: problematic.

  61. Get Phelps Up says:

    That was a terrible call and an even worse move by the Braves fans.

    • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW) says:

      Good for the Braves fans. The shitty umps are protected by a union. The asshole commissioner won’t allow replay. Fuck the sport.

      • Get Phelps Up says:

        They shouldn’t trash the field and embarrass themselves and the organization because the umpire sucks.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

        Replay doesn’t really matter there. It’s 100% umpires judgement.
        It’s not like the umpire mis-saw something.

        • Bo Knows says:

          it was an insanely late call, which screws up everything else. If the ump called it early, nothing would have happened; but he called the infield fly just seconds before the ball fell.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

            I agree it was a bad call. I just don’t think replay would change it. There’s nothing they’d see on replay that they didn’t see live. It was 100% umpires (bad) judgement, not a question of needing to see something more clearly or from a different angle.

  62. captain kiwi says:

    awful, AWFUL call. and then the fans go and throw trash? my heart aches for chipper.

  63. dkidd says:

    #replacement refs

  64. Robinson Tilapia says:

    I don’t like stuff being thrown. I understand the anger, though.

    Perhaps it’s the Applejack and Cardamaro talking.

  65. Hall and Nokes says:

    They cut out BUSH LEAGUE, BRO?!?!?!

  66. Pat D says:

    Looks like Hogan just dropped the leg on Savage.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Looks like Hogan just joined the NWO, actually.

      (which was his best promo, BTW.)

      • Pat D says:

        Um, yea, man, that’s what I was referring to.

        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          You coulda meant WM5. :)

        • Pat D says:

          And of course the nWo promo was his best promo, but that post-losing the title promo was best on the unintentional comedy scale.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            It was one of my first “wait…..this may be fake” moments, as I knew Earl Hebner was a referee for WCW at the time.

            Warrior was always kind of the unintentional comedy promo. Anything during the Warrior/Papa Shango feud…

            • Pat D says:

              The Warrior/Papa Shango feud was epic in its awfulness. All I remember at the time, when I was 11, was that it kinda freaked me out for the Warrior to start dripping black liquid on his face and to start convulsing and throwing up. I always wondered why I never saw an actual match between the two of them. Then I saw the Warrior DVD and fully understood.

              • Robinson Tilapia says:

                Charles Wright wasn’t terrible. He just didn’t become popular until he knew all he needed to say to get a pop was “pimpin ain’t easy.”

                My teenage self loved the Warrior. My current self can’t belief I liked such a delusional, egotistical dickhead.

                • Pat D says:

                  Everyone liked The Warrior then. Once I found out what he’s really like, I have had no taste for him. That being said, he probably belongs in the WWE HOF.

                  Charles Wright wasn’t terrible. He just wasn’t someone capable of putting on great matches without a good partner, and everyone knows The Warrior wasn’t that guy.

  67. Get Phelps Up says:

    Was that a worse call than the one on Mauer’s foul ball in 09?

  68. DC says:

    Asinine call, but, geez, fans…I understand the frustration, but still.

  69. pat says:

    MLB has to step in and reverse this call. Just make it right. HOOMAN ELEMENTTTT

  70. Bo Knows says:

    It’s wrong to throw things, but they have every right to be pissed and boo

    but you know what would prevent bullshit like this from happening….INSTANT $%^%in REPLAY

    but pigs have a better chance discovering nuclear fusion than that happening

    • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW) says:

      Bud doesn’t want it. He likes when shit like this happens.

    • Rivera Venue Blues says:

      Sad as it is, it’s likely instant replay wouldn’t have been applied on this situation.

      • Bo Knows says:

        I think it could be, like the announcers are saying calling infield fly needs to be done quickly, not 2 seconds before the ball hits the ground.

        • Rivera Venue Blues says:

          Yeah but they’re also saying the call arguably made the infielder perhaps pull off the ball. It’s likely that a judgment call like the infield fly rule wouldn’t be reviewable.

  71. Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW) says:

    I’m embarrassed to be a fan of MLB.

  72. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Jeffrey Loria was right. Fredi’s protesting the game. Ozzie would have whipped out his dick and pissed on leftfield.

  73. vicki says:

    and this is why you don’t have a single elimination game for all the marbles?

  74. Stratman9652 says:

    Funniest part is that MLB’s twitter bio said “don’t worry, we don’t understand the infield fly rule either” up until a minute ago.

  75. VT Yankee Fan says:

    Ironically the trash on the field allowed the Braves to decide to play under protest.

  76. Pat D says:

    If they’re still throwing shit, they really need to announce that if it doesn’t stop, the game is going to be forfeited.

  77. Mick taylor says:

    The umpire is nearsighted he thought it was a yank pop up. The Tex call in Baltimore was worse because this is a judgement call whereas under no circumstances was Tex out

  78. Kevin G. says:

    If I were Atlanta I’d put Chipper on the scoreboard, telling the fans to stop

  79. Robinson Tilapia says:

    I hope McCann hits it into Jacksonville.

  80. vicki says:

    too bad vegas doesn’t give a fuck about baseball.

  81. VT Yankee Fan says:

    Using Google Earth I figured that that ball was more than 90 feet past the 2nd to 3rd base line.

  82. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Now I hope Bourn hits it to Savannah.

  83. Get Phelps Up says:

    Good. I hope the Cardinals win so there’s a small chance MLB does something about the terrible umpires.

    • Bo Knows says:

      When has Selig ever actually done anything that has fixed something? Cardinals will win, nothing will be done; but I want the Cardinals to get spanked like children in the next series.

      Not the players fault but it’s a crime whenever a sporting event gets decided by shit refs/umps/judges

      • Get Phelps Up says:

        At least if the Cardinals win there’s a CHANCE that something is done, however small it may be. If the Braves win there’s no way that happens.

  84. King George says:

    Just curious…and I don’t want to change the topic up but since it does have to do with these wild card games, I figured I’d ask. Who do you guys want to win the Rangers-Orioles game tonight? I personally am indifferent.

  85. Frank says:

    How exactly will this protest be handled if Cards win? I guess they would have to remain in Atlanta until MLB renders a decision by tonight or tomorrow morning.

  86. Hall and Nokes says:

    Dumb question: is the infield fly mandatory if the circumstances exist?

  87. Dan in Athens says:

    This protest may hold. Just like only the home plate umpire can call a ball fair or foul before it gets to the bag, and then and only then, does it become the exclusive call of the 1st and 3rd base umpires in regular season ball, I don’t think the left field umpire has any right to make that call – it is within the exclusive discretion of the infield umpires.

    That being said, good for you Atlanta fans for showing passion, as futile as it is. If this was in Yankee Stadium against NY, I’d expect the same somewhat misguided passionate reaction.

    • VT Yankee Fan says:

      Your first point is a good one. If it is an INFIELD fly, why is the left field line ump calling it?

      • Dan in Athens says:

        It is their only hope of having the protest upheld. Hope they have good enough legal/baseball folks to make it the right way.

  88. ThrillHouseMD says:

    Chipper is going to end their season, isn’t he.

  89. Bo Knows says:

    was Heywards out, an infield fly?

  90. Kramerica Industries says:

    Jerry Meals was amazed at how shitty a call that was.

    Unreal.

  91. vicki says:

    motte needs to groove one.

  92. VT Yankee Fan says:

    Chipper half-asses his way to first on what could be his last AB ever.

  93. CountryClub says:

    That should be an E on the 2nd baseman. There was no need to do that jump throw with Chipper running.

  94. CBean says:

    The thing about the call that really pisses me off is you know, in normal baseball series, there’s the next game in the series where you can hopefully get back. I remain opposed to a one-game series for anything in baseball.

  95. vicki says:

    it sucks when it happens to your team and you cling to it bitterly, but a game rarely comes down to just one call.

    couldve been a bad strike three call. happens all the time.

    having said that, i feel sick to my stomach, and i ache a little for chipper.

  96. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    From the rule book:

    “When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly, the umpire shall
    immediately declare “Infield Fly” for the benefit of the runners.”

    I suppose one could argue wasn’t apparent until the IF appeared to settle under the ball, hence the lateness of the call.

    “Rule 2.00 (Infield Fly) Comment: On the infield fly rule the umpire is to rule whether the ball could ordinarily have been handled by an infielder—not by some arbitrary limitation such as the grass, or the base lines. The umpire must rule also that a ball is an infield fly, even if handled by an outfielder, if, in the umpire’s judgment, the ball could have been as easily handled by an infielder. The
    infield fly is in no sense to be considered an appeal play. The umpire’s judgment must govern, and the decision should be made immediately”

    It seems to come down to whether the ball could have been handled easily by the IF. It’s a debatable point, but the infielder was there and could have rather easily caught it. Seems like no chance the protest will be upheld.

  97. Hall and Nokes says:

    Do we root against the better team or the more annoying team here? It’s tough.

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