Oct
05

NL Wildcard Play-In Game Thread

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The Braves and Cardinals officially kick off the postseason this afternoon, as they meet in Atlanta in the first ever wildcard play-in game. The winner will advance to the NLDS and face the Nationals while the loser goes home. One game, winner take all. It’s fun as long as the Yankees aren’t involved. Kris Medlen (1.57 ERA and 2.42 FIP) vs. Kyle Lohse (2.86 ERA and 3.51 FIP) is your pitching matchup, and the game can be seen on TBS at 5:07pm ET. Talk about it here.

  • Eddard reboot v.1.0

    Medlen will win. Braves shouldn’t even have to play this game against a team that is clearly inferior.

    • KeithK

      Then the Braves should have finished first and avoided the playoff game. One could also say that the Nats shouldn’t even have to play a series against the Braves (were they to advance to win) since Atlanta is clearly an inferior team. The moment you embrace the idea of a second place team making the playoffs you have tossed out this idea of “fairness”.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      You were wrong, as usual.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    Kris Medlen looks like he got called up from Little League.

    Also how cool would it be knowing you are part of the first ever game of a new format? That ball will probably be on exhibit in the HOF with your name next to it for years to come.

  • The Real Greg

    What a play by Heyward. Robs Molina of a homer

  • vicki

    jason heyward.

    that is all.

  • Ethan

    I hate the blackout system. I’m in canada, have mlb.tv but don’t have cable and can’t watch them.

    • Winter

      Updated by RAB: Please don’t link to unlicensed feeds. Thanks.

  • Souter Fell

    Craig couldve had that

  • vinny-b

    why is it called “Play-In”? It sounds stupid

  • https://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    Seriously, who didn’t see that coming?

  • The Real Greg

    David Ross with a 2 run homer. Braves up 2-0

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Get it done, Cashman.

      • vicki

        but we’ve got seeing-eye stewart!

  • dkidd

    i want no part of the braves

    kimbrell’s numbers look like typos. if they get ahead, it’s over

    • vicki

      indeed. take it out of the bullpen’s hands: get an early lead and keep it, which is certainly doable.

      i know teams can change over a half-season, but yanks were solid against the nl east in interleague. swept natties, and were a bad phil hughes from taking five of six from the braves. of course medlen was in the bullpen then.

  • vicki

    yep. two-run dinger to the seven-hole backup catcher. medlen on the mound. looking pretty good for the bravos de atlanta.

    and goodluck hinske in the dugout.

  • The Real Greg

    Difference between a 2 run homer and striking out the side? Umpire granting time to a player.

    Lots of luck needed to win in the postseason

    • vicki

      game of inches.

  • nick

    Is it just me or is it odd when they keep saying this was a career year for heyward. I mean its year 3, small sample size?

    • dkidd

      it’s odd

      23 year-olds can’t have career years

    • vicki

      further, while he had more homeruns this year, his season looks a lot like 2010.

      • Jack

        Except for the 60 points of OBP.

        • vicki

          right. 60 points higher in 2010. so which was the career year?

          • Jack

            Offensively, 2010. Although if you trust UZR, he actually posted a better WAR this year.

            • vicki

              i don’t, especially from season to season; and neither do you. he’s been a stud in the field from jump.

              • Jack

                Agreed.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    These late time out calls are kinda ridiculous.

  • Rocky Road Redemption

    Are Texas and Baltimore playing later today?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      8:30

      • Rocky Road Redemption

        Thanks, I thought so. Really weird game times.

  • The Real Greg

    RBI double for Allen Craig. Braves up 2-1. Cards have second and third with no outs.

  • VT Yankee Fan

    Does TBS really not show the pitch count?

    • JonS

      It’s on their super-imposed pitch location window on the right.

      • VT Yankee Fan

        OK, I see it thanks.

    • vicki

      i don’t understand why every network doesn’t employ the yes score box.

  • The Real Greg

    Sac gtoundout by Molina and a sac fly by Freese have the Cardinals up 3-2

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    It would be a shame if the Braves go out with Chipper as the goat.

    • The Real Greg

      That’s exactly what I was just thinking

  • captain kiwi

    posteason.tv doesn’t have a tv broadcast style thingy? switching manually between the cams kinda sucks. also, since i live in georgia, i got A LOT of pissed off friends right now.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Jack Curry
    ?@JackCurryYES
    Ichiro said he loves Yankee clubhouse because no one is too high or too low. “Except Swisher,” he said. Funny line.

    heh

  • Nathan

    I’m hoping the Braves stay in the postseason for a while. I’ve always admired Chipper and wouldn’t mind a Yankees/Braves rematch. I surely don’t want to see the Giants pitchers.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Wow, huge call, but correct.

  • vicki

    woooooooow.

  • Rocky Road Redemption

    Great call by the ump.

  • The Real Greg

    Good call. Simmons was clearly on the grass

  • JonS

    Man, NL baseball is soooo much different from watching AL ball.

    • The Real Greg

      Even for NL ball, it was a bad play by the rookie. Why bunt in front of the pitcher?

    • The Real Greg

      Even for NL ball, it was a bad play by the rookie. Why bunt in front of the pitcher?

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        Called from the bench, apparently.

  • captain kiwi

    that call on simmons broke gameday.

  • Zanath

    As the announcers said, there was no reason for Simmons to bunt there. Rookie mistake.

  • The Real Greg

    I’m shocked that Fredi Gonzalez put that on. Not even Girardi would do that.

  • Eddard reboot v.1.0

    I hate NL bunting. Too much bunting. I guess Girardi isn’t the only one who would bunt 1st and 3rd, 1 out. Awful decision.

    • The Real Greg

      Girardi would not have even done that with the pitcher batting behind him.

    • RetroRob

      Girardi’s bunting tendencies are pretty minor compared to most managers. I can live with it most of the time.

      • RetroRob

        *many* managers, not most.

  • adjusts batting gloves

    In the way of Yankee fans, I was moaning with a friend last night about the decline of A-Rod, why he’s batting third, still, yadda, yadda…But then we stumbled on to what seemed, at the time, like an interesting hypothesis for his decline. I wondered if A-Rod had developed a “steroid swing,” i.e. he was able to start his swing later and look at the ball longer because he knew he’d have this extra power. Now that he’s no longer A-Roid, he’s still in the habit of the late swing, which has led to his loss of power, his slightly increased strike-out totals, and, what seems observationally true, though I haven’t corroborated it with a good look at the spray chart, more weak outs to the right side, or more pop ups that would have once at least made the outfield…In other words, it’s not that he’s only experiencing a physical decline, it’s that he hasn’t been able to adjust his swing to account for his physical decline. Theory doesn’t quite account for the 30 HR 2010 season, which was presumably post-roid. I’m curious, though, what the RAB crew think about this. Does it seem plausible? What’s the way to corroborate it statistically, and has anyone done it? I.e. are there certain types of hits that known steroid users were likely to have in higher percentages than non-steroid users in their spray charts (e.g. opposite field HRS off of high fastballs)…
    Phew. Go Yanks!

  • dkidd

    am I remembering correctly that teams can reset their rosters after the play-in game?

    so both teams are carrying more than the usual assortment of relievers?

    • captain kiwi

      i think so. read about it earlier, they can reset for the ds

    • vicki

      correct.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Can’t hit HR’s in the postseason.

    • vicki

      are people really still saying that?

    • Bo Knows

      apparently they can’t field in the Post either

  • nick

    I know its the 7th. but Cardinals have this, Atlanta cant do anything

    • vicki

      they do look lost. poor chipper.

  • dkidd

    braves playing tight

    cards are like “been there, done that”

  • Get Phelps Up

    The Braves are making Nunie look like a gold glover.

    • Anthony

      So true.

  • Bo Knows

    Wow, Braves are choking hard….two years in a row they’ve shit the bed during the most important game of their year

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Braves….smh

  • dkidd

    little league

  • https://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    Wow, they do know this is a one game elimination right?

    • dkidd

      i think they’re a little TOO aware of that fact

  • vicki

    i think the polite thing would be to look away.

  • Laz

    This is gonna be a sad way to end chippers career.

  • Get Phelps Up

    The Braves are 0-9 at Turner Field when facing elimination.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Heh, so much for home field advantage.

  • vicki

    mlb needs to put an end to that tomahawk chop stuff. it’s vuvuzela painful.

    • VT Yankee Fan

      I hate the Braves for that as much as for anything else.

    • captain kiwi
    • Hall and Nokes

      I can’t believe that Liberty Media hasn’t figured out that they can save at least $10,000 by getting rid of the foam tomahawks and the drummer in the outfield.

  • http://yanksgoyard.com/ Joe F

    I fell asleep at 4:00 woke up a few minutes ago. Poor Braves. I kinda rather them win. Tired of St. Louis.

  • CountryClub

    Pettitte is throwing a pen right now with Hughes. I wonder if that tells us anything about gm 2?

    • Laz

      Why? During the regular season starters usually throw it between starts. More to just keep them both fresh.

      • CountryClub

        I know, but they usually throw a pen a certain amount of days before their start. I just don’t know how many…

  • john

    Geez, the tomahawk chant got old really quick – i can’t wait for the apple tv to arrive so i can digitally remove that shite!

  • Anthony

    They are calling that an infield fly???

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      huge break for the Cardinals.

      • Anthony

        Yea, really. The left field ump called it really late too.

  • Bo Knows

    What the hell is going on? This is a strange game

  • Professor Longnose

    Oh, wow. Amazing call. They can’t let it stand.

  • Nathan

    Wow what a BS call.

  • Bo Knows

    that can’t be an infield fly, that’s bull

  • captain kiwi

    HOLY SHIT.

  • Professor Longnose

    A legitimate infield fly, if the guy drops it, well, too bad. But this was way into left field.

  • vicki

    stay classy, atlanta.

  • PhillyMatt

    Stay classy Atlanta

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Wait……what happened? That cannot possibly the Infield Fly Rule. Complete bullshit. Wow.

    • Professor Longnose

      The announcers are saying the call may have been why the fielders gave up on it. So you can’t overturn it, as bad a call as it was.

  • Eddard reboot v.1.0

    Classless move by Atlanta fans. Yankee fans would never do that.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Oh yes they would.

      • Professor Longnose

        Only Reggie bars. They don’t hurt. Except emotionally.

      • Hall and Nokes

        Yeah, they would. I just hope it would be better beer.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          It’d be a 290 calorie Chekvar from “Beers of the World.”

    • CountryClub

      Well, don’t say never. But if they did, the media would treat it like a natural disaster.

      Seriously though, bad job by Atlanta fans. Awful.

    • DC

      LOL! Did you just become a Yankees fan this year Eddard?

    • captain kiwi

      they’d spit on cliff lee’s wife instead.

    • Bo Knows

      hahahahaahahahahahahaahaha, your hilarious

  • Hall and Nokes

    1 game playoffs: problematic.

  • Get Phelps Up

    That was a terrible call and an even worse move by the Braves fans.

    • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW)

      Good for the Braves fans. The shitty umps are protected by a union. The asshole commissioner won’t allow replay. Fuck the sport.

      • Get Phelps Up

        They shouldn’t trash the field and embarrass themselves and the organization because the umpire sucks.

        • Get Phelps Up

          And now they’re throwing stuff again after the Cardnials take the field. Terrible.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        Replay doesn’t really matter there. It’s 100% umpires judgement.
        It’s not like the umpire mis-saw something.

        • Bo Knows

          it was an insanely late call, which screws up everything else. If the ump called it early, nothing would have happened; but he called the infield fly just seconds before the ball fell.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting

            I agree it was a bad call. I just don’t think replay would change it. There’s nothing they’d see on replay that they didn’t see live. It was 100% umpires (bad) judgement, not a question of needing to see something more clearly or from a different angle.

  • captain kiwi

    awful, AWFUL call. and then the fans go and throw trash? my heart aches for chipper.

  • dkidd

    #replacement refs

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Seriously.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I don’t like stuff being thrown. I understand the anger, though.

    Perhaps it’s the Applejack and Cardamaro talking.

  • Hall and Nokes

    They cut out BUSH LEAGUE, BRO?!?!?!

  • Pat D

    Looks like Hogan just dropped the leg on Savage.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Looks like Hogan just joined the NWO, actually.

      (which was his best promo, BTW.)

      • Pat D

        Um, yea, man, that’s what I was referring to.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          You coulda meant WM5. :)

        • Pat D

          And of course the nWo promo was his best promo, but that post-losing the title promo was best on the unintentional comedy scale.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            It was one of my first “wait…..this may be fake” moments, as I knew Earl Hebner was a referee for WCW at the time.

            Warrior was always kind of the unintentional comedy promo. Anything during the Warrior/Papa Shango feud…

            • Pat D

              The Warrior/Papa Shango feud was epic in its awfulness. All I remember at the time, when I was 11, was that it kinda freaked me out for the Warrior to start dripping black liquid on his face and to start convulsing and throwing up. I always wondered why I never saw an actual match between the two of them. Then I saw the Warrior DVD and fully understood.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                Charles Wright wasn’t terrible. He just didn’t become popular until he knew all he needed to say to get a pop was “pimpin ain’t easy.”

                My teenage self loved the Warrior. My current self can’t belief I liked such a delusional, egotistical dickhead.

                • Pat D

                  Everyone liked The Warrior then. Once I found out what he’s really like, I have had no taste for him. That being said, he probably belongs in the WWE HOF.

                  Charles Wright wasn’t terrible. He just wasn’t someone capable of putting on great matches without a good partner, and everyone knows The Warrior wasn’t that guy.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Was that a worse call than the one on Mauer’s foul ball in 09?

    • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW)

      You’re not supposed to talk about that here.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      It may be the Applejack and Cardamaro talking, again, but that’s arguably the worst call I’ve ever seen.

    • pat

      They don’t pitch to Kubel if Mauer is standing on 2nd with 1st base open. Same result. Men on 1st and 2nd same outs. Same difference.

  • DC

    Asinine call, but, geez, fans…I understand the frustration, but still.

  • Get Phelps Up
    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      good call

    • DC

      Ha! Wish it was Meals.

  • pat

    MLB has to step in and reverse this call. Just make it right. HOOMAN ELEMENTTTT

  • Bo Knows

    It’s wrong to throw things, but they have every right to be pissed and boo

    but you know what would prevent bullshit like this from happening….INSTANT $%^%in REPLAY

    but pigs have a better chance discovering nuclear fusion than that happening

    • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW)

      Bud doesn’t want it. He likes when shit like this happens.

    • Rivera Venue Blues

      Sad as it is, it’s likely instant replay wouldn’t have been applied on this situation.

      • Bo Knows

        I think it could be, like the announcers are saying calling infield fly needs to be done quickly, not 2 seconds before the ball hits the ground.

        • Rivera Venue Blues

          Yeah but they’re also saying the call arguably made the infielder perhaps pull off the ball. It’s likely that a judgment call like the infield fly rule wouldn’t be reviewable.

  • Big Members Only (formerly RI$P FTW)

    I’m embarrassed to be a fan of MLB.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Jeffrey Loria was right. Fredi’s protesting the game. Ozzie would have whipped out his dick and pissed on leftfield.

  • vicki

    and this is why you don’t have a single elimination game for all the marbles?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Nah. Get the call right even if it’s an Astros/Red Sox game.

      • VT Yankee Fan

        ^This.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    Funniest part is that MLB’s twitter bio said “don’t worry, we don’t understand the infield fly rule either” up until a minute ago.

  • VT Yankee Fan

    Ironically the trash on the field allowed the Braves to decide to play under protest.

  • Pat D

    If they’re still throwing shit, they really need to announce that if it doesn’t stop, the game is going to be forfeited.

  • Mick taylor

    The umpire is nearsighted he thought it was a yank pop up. The Tex call in Baltimore was worse because this is a judgement call whereas under no circumstances was Tex out

    • Robinson Tilapia

      *applies “opposite” rule*

  • Kevin G.

    If I were Atlanta I’d put Chipper on the scoreboard, telling the fans to stop

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I’d put Andre 3000.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I hope McCann hits it into Jacksonville.

  • vicki

    too bad vegas doesn’t give a fuck about baseball.

  • VT Yankee Fan

    Using Google Earth I figured that that ball was more than 90 feet past the 2nd to 3rd base line.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Now I hope Bourn hits it to Savannah.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Good. I hope the Cardinals win so there’s a small chance MLB does something about the terrible umpires.

    • Bo Knows

      When has Selig ever actually done anything that has fixed something? Cardinals will win, nothing will be done; but I want the Cardinals to get spanked like children in the next series.

      Not the players fault but it’s a crime whenever a sporting event gets decided by shit refs/umps/judges

      • Get Phelps Up

        At least if the Cardinals win there’s a CHANCE that something is done, however small it may be. If the Braves win there’s no way that happens.

        • Bo Knows

          I understand, I’m just frustrated by the whole process….it’s such a load of crap

  • King George

    Just curious…and I don’t want to change the topic up but since it does have to do with these wild card games, I figured I’d ask. Who do you guys want to win the Rangers-Orioles game tonight? I personally am indifferent.

    • CountryClub

      For some reason, it just hit me that I hate Balt enough that I want them to lose.

      • http://yanksgoyard.com/ Joe F

        Nah I don’t care.

    • Bo Knows

      I want an alien invasion to abduct both teams and send them to a space zoo until the postseason ends.

      but in light of the tiny chance of that happening, I hope that whoever wins catches Hamilton’s dry eyes so they are incapable of seeing the ball right.

      • vicki

        BLUE eyes, and it’s a real thing! mine are very sensitive to bright light.

  • Frank

    How exactly will this protest be handled if Cards win? I guess they would have to remain in Atlanta until MLB renders a decision by tonight or tomorrow morning.

  • Hall and Nokes

    Dumb question: is the infield fly mandatory if the circumstances exist?

    • VT Yankee Fan

      Yes.

  • Dan in Athens

    This protest may hold. Just like only the home plate umpire can call a ball fair or foul before it gets to the bag, and then and only then, does it become the exclusive call of the 1st and 3rd base umpires in regular season ball, I don’t think the left field umpire has any right to make that call – it is within the exclusive discretion of the infield umpires.

    That being said, good for you Atlanta fans for showing passion, as futile as it is. If this was in Yankee Stadium against NY, I’d expect the same somewhat misguided passionate reaction.

    • VT Yankee Fan

      Your first point is a good one. If it is an INFIELD fly, why is the left field line ump calling it?

      • Dan in Athens

        It is their only hope of having the protest upheld. Hope they have good enough legal/baseball folks to make it the right way.

  • ThrillHouseMD

    Chipper is going to end their season, isn’t he.

  • Bo Knows

    was Heywards out, an infield fly?

  • Kramerica Industries

    Jerry Meals was amazed at how shitty a call that was.

    Unreal.

  • vicki

    motte needs to groove one.

  • VT Yankee Fan

    Chipper half-asses his way to first on what could be his last AB ever.

    • Hall and Nokes

      Now we know how Cano’s career will end.

  • CountryClub

    That should be an E on the 2nd baseman. There was no need to do that jump throw with Chipper running.

  • CBean

    The thing about the call that really pisses me off is you know, in normal baseball series, there’s the next game in the series where you can hopefully get back. I remain opposed to a one-game series for anything in baseball.

  • vicki

    it sucks when it happens to your team and you cling to it bitterly, but a game rarely comes down to just one call.

    couldve been a bad strike three call. happens all the time.

    having said that, i feel sick to my stomach, and i ache a little for chipper.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    From the rule book:

    “When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly, the umpire shall
    immediately declare “Infield Fly” for the benefit of the runners.”

    I suppose one could argue wasn’t apparent until the IF appeared to settle under the ball, hence the lateness of the call.

    “Rule 2.00 (Infield Fly) Comment: On the infield fly rule the umpire is to rule whether the ball could ordinarily have been handled by an infielder—not by some arbitrary limitation such as the grass, or the base lines. The umpire must rule also that a ball is an infield fly, even if handled by an outfielder, if, in the umpire’s judgment, the ball could have been as easily handled by an infielder. The
    infield fly is in no sense to be considered an appeal play. The umpire’s judgment must govern, and the decision should be made immediately”

    It seems to come down to whether the ball could have been handled easily by the IF. It’s a debatable point, but the infielder was there and could have rather easily caught it. Seems like no chance the protest will be upheld.

  • Hall and Nokes

    Do we root against the better team or the more annoying team here? It’s tough.