Oct
24

Open Thread: World Series Game One

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Barry’s got this. (Jonathan Daniel/Getty)

The Giants and Tigers open the 108th World Series tonight with Game One in San Francisco. Both teams were the three-seed in their respective leagues — meaning they had arguably the most favorable schedule — but arrived at the Fall Classic in very different ways. Detroit beat the Athletics in five games in the ALDS before walloping the Yankees in the ALCS sweep while the Giants came back from a 2-0 deficit against the Reds in the NLDS before coming back from a 3-1 deficit against the Cardinals in the NLCS.

If there is such a thing as momentum, San Fran has it … or they don’t. The Tigers have had six days off while the Giants played just a day ago, but Justin Verlander will be on the mound for Detroit. They say momentum is only as good as your next day’s starting pitcher, and the Giants will be running Barry Zito out there. Whenever the Yankees were not in the World Series, I’ve always found myself rooting against the AL team and I’m not quite sure why. That’s just the way it’s been for me and I don’t expect that to change this year.

Anyway, here is your open thread for the evening. Game One starts at 8pm ET and can be seen on FOX, so talk about that or any other non-politics topic here throughout the night. Enjoy.

Categories : Open Thread
  • http://yanksgoyard.com Joe F

    I’ll be watching. The wounds are gone.

    And I need to get away from reality…

  • Get Phelps Up

    Go Giants!

  • http://twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

    Verlander and Zito, eh?

    CY VERSUS CY

  • jjyank

    “Whenever the Yankees were not in the World Series, I’ve always found myself rooting against the AL team and I’m not quite sure why. That’s just the way it’s been for me and I don’t expect that to change this year.”

    I feel the same way. Maybe it’s just because I won’t have to hear announcers say “The Yankees are coming up against the defending World Series champions” during the course of the next season. I mean yeah, there’s inter-league, but even if they do draw that time, it would only be once, not several times.

    This is probably a terrible reason. But I don’t really care.

    That said, I will not be watching the game. I love baseball, I really do. Maybe I just get burnt out after 162+ games, though. I never get to play xbox after work during the regular season, and frankly, I’d rather do that right now.

    • jjyank

      do draw that *team*. Gah. Long day. Maybe I just need to go to bed instead.

      • Got Heeeeeeem

        I think the Yankees do play the Giants in interleague next year. So the Yanks will be facing the World Champs sometime next season, no matter the victor.

        • jjyank

          Okay, but just once. Not like 3-4 times. I acknowledged it’s not a great reason, but fuck it. Go National League!

    • http://yanksgoyard.com Joe F

      I might catch some ESPN 30 for 30 reruns at 9:00. I love the series, but missed that entire season so far.

      I think NFL Network runs a few good shows at night as well. Football life might be on.

      So I’ll switch from WS, 30 for 30, and Football Life.

      • jjyank

        I don’t get the NFL Network on my cable package. Ah, I miss having my parents pay the bills :P

        I’m all caught up on The Walking Dead now too. I started a new character on Skyrim a couple weeks ago to till some time until Halo 4 comes out. So that’s my night haha.

        • http://yanksgoyard.com Joe F

          Really? Direct T.V., fIOS, Optimum, and Time Warner all have it.

          • jjyank

            I have Comcast, and I am sure as shit not paying extra for the NFL Network.

            • http://yanksgoyard.com Joe F

              Oh never mind!

    • Jersey Joe

      Haha,

      Immediately after the Yankees lost, I found myself in 2017 as the Pirates when Chris Stewart’s 2k10 version had an 89 overall and was platooning at catcher with Jeff Clement.

  • John R.

    Hear me out, but what if we resigned Ichiro, signed Pagan, and put a package together for Justin Upton or CarGo around Granderson?

    Just a thought. Also would like to see Yankees give Nate McClouth a look. He was pretty solid in the ALDS.

    • Jersey Joe

      Pagan = too much $$$$$$$$, not really proven hitter
      Ichiro = he’s old, and past 2 years he’s been far from consistent

      I feel like at this point, we should not be sacrificing prospects, unless it’s Phelps, Nunez, or an Adam Warren type. We should be building for the future, and we can’t afford to give up Sanchez, Williams, Montgomery, Austin, etc., a few of which will be needed in Cargo deal

    • Get Phelps Up

      Why would the Rockies or Diamondbacks want Granderson?

      • MannyGeee

        Ummm

        Forty three home runzzzzzz!!!1!1!1

      • http://yanksgoyard.com Joe F

        Phillies?

        Only option in my mind for a trade. If we can fool them into handing over Dom Brown, I’d be happy.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Don’t know about those two teams, but I could see a team try to fool their fanbase into thinking they’re competitive by taking Grandy on for a season. It’s not absolutely far-fetched.

        • John

          D brown sucks .. I rather play almonte

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      I think they should consider Pagan, but I have a feeling he’s going to end up with too many $$$/years to interest the Yankees.

  • Eddard

    Look for the Giants to beat Verlander. They’ll chip away at him, manufacture a run here and there, Scutaro will get a clutch hit to clinch it. If Zito holds up his end of the bargain the Giants will beat the Tigers ace. Small ball will prevail.

    • WhittakerWalt

      “Small ball will prevail.”

      This doesn’t actually happen in the playoffs, as much as idiots like Jon Kruk would like you to believe otherwise.

    • Get Phelps Up

      Pablo Sandoval would like you to go fuck yourself.

      • MannyGeee

        Thank you. I was just thinking this

        • Robinson Tilapia

          That was one big panda shit right on Eddard’s head.

  • https://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    Was anyone else hoping that the Nationals would make it to and win the WS (if not against the Yankees) as much as I was? I listen to MLB Network radio almost exclusively in my truck and dread the off season of “they shouldn’t have shut down Strasburg” calls.

    • jjyank

      I was. I moved to DC in June, and I was really happy for the Nats fans I came into contact with. Everyone seemed so happy, so grateful for a good team. I was rooting for them. To be honest, it was kind of refreshing. The Yankees won the division and made it to the ALCS, and so many people want to blow the team up. Nats fans, even though they lost, were just thrilled to have a great season, finally win the division, and be in the playoffs. Nobody I’ve met is bitter. They are my official second team. As long as the Nats are not playing the Yankees, I’m pulling for them.

      • https://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

        They are definitely my NL team. Though, I wouldn’t have minded if the Braves would have gone farther though, being Chipper’s last year and all.

      • vicki

        stros are my nl team.

        sorry, what?

        really?

        ssssssselig.

    • vicki

      you have a truck. hot.

  • http://Fendersonandhampton.com Cuso

    “Whenever the Yankees were not in the World Series, I’ve always found myself rooting against the AL team and I’m not quite sure why”

    I know why. It’s because every AL team that made it (with the exception of 2008) is the team that eliminated the Yankees in the postseason.

    And I’m guessing that in 2008, you actually did root for the AL team (Rays).

    • http://Fendersonandhampton.com Cuso

      Unless you rooted against the White Sox too, I guess. That’s the only one they didn’t face that went on to the WS.

    • http://Fendersonandhampton.com Cuso

      Yeah, I’m just an idiot. Tigers last year too.

  • http://yanksgoyard.com Joe F

    Watching some Knicks preseason instead now.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      My condolences.

  • Mickey McMick

    Time off is maybe not such a good idea

  • Jersey Joe

    I’ve mentioned this a lot, but does Seth Smith make way too much sense for the Yankees? He can platoon in right field with a speedy, .280ish right-handed hitter? Maybe Darnell McDonald, possibly Aaron Cunningham, both as reclamation projects?

    Maybe David Adams would be a good fit for 2B/3B where the A’s are struggling right now, maybe CoJo and his high OBP would be a moneyball move?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Doesn’t a player have to have been good in the past to be considered a reclamation project?

    • John

      McDonald are you kidding me .. You obviously don’t know much about baseball .. I rather have canseco come out of retirement and play than see McDonald out there

    • vicki

      i’d rather get eli.

  • MannyGeee

    Isn’t Barry Zito amazing? From Cy Young to way overpaid to not on the post season roster to starting game one of the world series….

    What a long strange trip it’s been….

    • vicki

      guy, for real. “way overpaid” doesnt begin to approach it. ridiculous. pretend it’s august 2008 and carl pavano shows up. nuts.

  • MannyGeee

    Hunter Pence is a fucking hack… Like, Granderson level hack… He just looked like me taking swings against verlander

  • Mick taylor

    I wanna see the umps screw the tigers like they screwed the yanks in game 1. The yanks should have won game 1 and then who knows what happens in the series. Maybe the yank hitters loosen up and the tigers tighten up the whole series changes so let us see selig’s boys screw the tigers out of game 1 and see them still win the series

    • Rek4gehrig

      Not to worry. Verlander doesn’t have his usual wide strike zone

  • Rek4gehrig

    Why did Red Sox give up on scutaro?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      $$$

    • vicki

      gave up??

      because he’s a league average, if that, midget nerd —

      NEVER MIND!

      a world in which marco scutaro mvp’s.

      chaos.

      • I am not the droids you’re looking for…(I believe that children are our future)

        I’m enjoying your not quite haiku posts Vick. Keep me comin.

        • I am not the droids you’re looking for…(I believe that children are our future)

          Ugh. Em comin.

  • Anthony

    Verlander is getting shellacked!

  • CP

    When did Zito start pitching right handed?

  • Hans Moleman

    Why couldn’t we do that.

  • Hans Moleman

    Why couldn’t we do that.

    • Hans Moleman

      Disregard.

      • Captain_Turbo

        Boo-urns!

  • CANOlli

    Yankees get: Michael Morse, Wilson Ramos
    Nats get: Curtis Granderson, Austin Romine

    ??????????????????????????????????

    • vicki

      i’m listening.

  • https://twitter.com/KramerIndustry Kramerica Industries

    Giants hitters incinerate Justin Verlander.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Verlander getting Cliff Lee’d by the Giants.

  • Hobie

    Hunter Pence looks like he just inhaled a massive amount of cocaine.

    • Rek4gehrig

      Lol

    • http://yanksgoyard.com Joe F

      Always has!

    • MannyGeee

      Swings his bat like he’s on meth though…

  • http://yanksgoyard.com Joe F

    McCarver shut up, please.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Someone forgot to tell Pablo Sandoval that you can’t hit homers off good pitchers in the playoffs.

    • Rek4gehrig

      Yup. He missed that memo

    • Captain_Turbo

      It only fits the narrative if it’s the Yankees not hitting home runs in the playoffs.

  • tyrone sharpton

    zito….best postseason player story in some time, imo

  • Rek4gehrig

    Alright this is getting annoying

  • Get Phelps Up

    Verlander is reminding all Tigers fans why they’re starting in San Francisco.

    • WhittakerWalt

      I kept hoping ASG Verlander would show up against us, and it never happened.

  • https://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    Pretty sure if I’m Verlander right now I would drop my glove, walk off the field, go home and nail Kate Upton.

  • TurdFerguson10

    I wonder if Zito can play third base …

  • Darren

    BARRY MANILOW! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

  • http://Fendersonandhampton.com Cuso

    So I waited long enough…

    I had my post-mortem today. I had saved MLB Network’s “30 Clubs in 30 Days: NY Yankees” on my DVR from last March just to see predictions v. Outcome. Hosted by Matt Vasghersian, Larry Bowa & Harold Reynolds.

    Key talking points from March on why they’d succeed: Gardner, Pineda & possible emergence of either Banuelos or Betances in August.

    Also “A-Rod says he’s finally healthy for the first Spring in many years & looks great.”

    “Russell Martin should take off offensively since he’s already familiar with the pitchers and has a year in NY under his belt.”

    “Cano should surpass the 119 RBI from 2011 since he’s finally batting 3rd.”

    Anyone have some specific questions for me before I delete it from my DVR once and for all?”

    • http://Fendersonandhampton.com Cuso

      Interview with Girardi: “Nunez going to play huge role.”

      They listed 10 potential bench players: including Branyan, Bill Hall & Cervelli.

      Nix (although shown repeatedly in Camp during the show) not even mentioned.

    • http://Fendersonandhampton.com Cuso

      Projected Standings:
      Yanks 94-68
      Sox 88-74
      Rays 86-76
      Jays 77-85
      O’s 73-89

  • WhittakerWalt

    The Giants are going to score more runs in this game than we scored in the entire series.

    • Anthony

      Eesh. It’s interesting to think about. Yanks finish regular season hot, have a few days off, and are abysmal offensively in the ALDS and CS. Tigers had what, about a week off? Looks like they’ve lost some of their momentum too. We’ll have to see.

    • Gonzalo Hiram

      but if you said that small ball doesn’t work

  • Zack

    NOt surprised,Verlander IMO has always been overrated and when not given a massive strikezone,can actually get lit up.

    • Thunder Road Runner

      agree!

  • Hall and Nokes

    You only need to hit it 360 feet out there in left? Bandbox.

  • Hall and Nokes

    That was awesome, y’all.

  • Pat D

    Pablo Sandoval: Fuck you and your pitching too.

    Yep, this is gonna play out like 2006 for the Tigers. Loving it.

  • Captain_Turbo

    But can the Giants actually take the series if they aren’t coming from behind?

  • Robinson Tilapia

    The Dungeness Crab sandwich at AT&T Park is to die for. The garlic fries are amazing.

    Oh Jesus, I just saw Ken Rosenthal’s outfit.

    • Pat D

      I’ve heard they have great food. I’ve never been one for crab or lobster, though.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I love that stadium.

        I also love lobster, although it’s way overpriced in NYC. There’s one advantage New England has.

        • Brian S.

          New England is racist though.

  • WhittakerWalt

    “Kiss this, Albuquerque!”

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Yes, I would trade for Timmy.

  • Elton Cod

    In the last five games, the Giants’ pitching staff has recorded more clutch insurance RBIs than the entire Yankee team (sans Ibanez) in the entire playoffs. Granderson and Cano have something to learn from Zito’s RBI at-bat. Make contact! Hit the ball the other way! Runs! Funny how that works.

    • Get Phelps Up

      4 of the Giants 6 runs came on home runs. An Zito’s was just a completely lucky jam hit.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        ssshhhhh.

  • David N

    I really want Sandoval to take Valverde deep here.

  • anon

    Valverde is definitely not pitching again in 2012, even if it’s a massive blowout deficit

  • Effthisnoise

    Love watching Detroit get owned, Verlander was due to get rocked

  • David N

    I love the Gameday scout thing: “Tim Lincecum may prefer to go after Omar Infante rather than face Miguel Cabrera.”

    Gee, ya think?

  • JLC 776

    I finally figured out what ‘Orioles Magic’ really is.

    It was the ability to make other teams play down to their level. It’s how they had such a good record with a crappy differential and a hodgepodge collection of players.

    It’s why the Yankees bats disappeared in the ALDS. Then the infection spread to our bats in the ALCS. And now it will live in Detroit who’s only offense was having to play down to our Baltimore-crippled-asses for four games.

    • JLC 776

      (only mostly sarcastic)

  • Thunder Road Runner

    so – it was the Yanks’ lousy hitting after all!

    • David N

      We did know that, didn’t we?

  • Pat D

    Kind of interesting/remarkable that only 4 times has a player hit 3 home runs in 1 World Series game, and that it has happened in each of the last 2 years.

  • Eddard

    I hope Yankee brass is watching this. The Giants have given a blueprint for how to beat Verlander and how to win in the postseason. Some big ball is fine but you need small ball to compliment the HRs. Scutaro had the biggest hit in the ballgame with that clutch RBI single to give them a 2 run lead. Sometimes all you need is a single. And how sad is it that Barry Zito hit better with RISP than our big boppers? Small ball wins ballgames.

    • Get Phelps Up

      “The Giants have given a blueprint for how to beat Verlander”

      By hitting his mistake pitches out of the ballpark.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Of course, there’s the “blueprint” the Yankees used every other time they beat Verlander.

    • Brian S.

      Throw away your computer.

    • Winter

      Blueprint for the Yankees: Small ball is more important than HR. Pinch hit our pitchers for Kurtis and AROID and canope.

    • Brian S.

      And actually Pablo’s 2 run home run was the biggest play of the game.

    • Zack

      The Reds and Cardinals say hi,as do the Nationals and A’s.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Final score was 8-3. The winning runs were driven in by a homerun, Sandoval’s 2-run shot.
      In other news, you’re pretty much wrong about everything.

    • JLC 776

      Yankees brass: “Guys, I know we’re one of the winningest franchises of all time and of the past couple years, but after watching Game 1 of the World Series, I’m pretty sure we’re doing it all wrong. We obviously need a giant, overweight guy who can hit home runs and we need a pitcher at bat every single time there’s a runner in scoring position.”

  • https://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    That’s what you get for bringing in a former Yankee pitcher to get Delmon Young out.

  • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM)

    A little late, but I guess nobody told Sandoval you can’t win in the postseason or beat good pitching by hitting homeruns trolololo

    #pissing all over the narrative on the biggest stage

  • Duh Innings

    Pick up the 2013 club options on Cano and Granderson and offer Soriano a year and $13.3M so he can reject it and the Yanks could get a draft pick from losing him.

    Trade Granderson to the Giants for Zito, A-Rod and $80M to the Marlins or Dodgers for prospects.

    Sign Jake Peavy for a year and $18M so he still makes $22M after the Chi-Sox buy him out for $4M.

    Either sign Kevin Youkilis or re-sign Chavez for 2013 only.

    Re-sign Melky Cabrera for a year and $14M or two years $12M a year if he doesn’t accept just a year, Swisher for a year and $13.3M I think he’ll take cuz he wants to stay a Yankee, Dioner Navarro for a year and $1M, Pettitte for a year and $5M, Nix, Dickerson, Rapada, and Eppley for 2013 only.

    Pick up the 2013 club option on Aardsma.

    Rotation: Sabathia/Peavy/Zito/Hughes/Pettitte (L/R/L/R/L)

    Everyone after Sabathia is in their walk year.

    Bullpen: Rivera/Robertson/Logan/Rapada/Aardsma/Chamberlain/Eppley

    Bench: Stewart/Nix/Dickerson/Youkilis or Chavez

    Starting Nine/Batting Order:

    Jeter in a possible walk year
    Nunez 3B through 2016
    Cano in his walk year
    Teixiera through 2016
    Cabrera LF for 2013 only or through 2014
    Ibanez DH for 2013 only
    Swisher RF for 2013 only
    Navarro C for 2013 only
    Gardner CF through 2014

    Sabathia and Teixiera are the only players under guaranteed contract beyond 2013 if Cabrera is re-signed for 2013 only, 2014 if Cabrera is re-signed through 2014.

    • John

      Why in the world would the Yankees want Navarro .. Also why the heck would they pay Cabrera 14mil for a year are you kidding me .. Why would they sign peavy to that much money when he is almost never healthy.. Why would the marlins give the Yankees prospects for arod who sucks .. And finally why would the Yankees want zito who has sucked for years pitching in the NL and in a pitcher friendly park .. Good thing you are not running the yankees

      • JLC 776

        This is typically what happens every year. One or two teams get hot in the post-season and every fan wants what they have, regardless of how ‘single data point’ it might be.

  • DJ4K&Monterowasdinero

    A guy with 12 HR’s, batting 3rd, hits 3 in one game. We had only one starter with less than 12. Imagine if Ichiro or Jeter hit 3 HR’s in one WS game. Amazing….