Friday Night Open Thread


At long last, our season review series is over. You can look back at all of the entries through the What Went Right and What Went Wrong tags, and they cover everything from the biggest stars on the roster to the fringy-est September call-ups, from the terrible playoff hitting to the awesome playoff pitching, and all sorts of stuff in-between. Check back through the series in case you missed anything.

Once you’ve done that, use this as your open thread for the evening. Both the Knicks and Nets are playing, plus I’m sure there some college basketball on somewhere. You folks know how these things work by now, so have at it.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. Terry says:

    Jason Nix DFA’d. Interesting news there

    • Alex Rodriguez says:

      Resigned to a Minor League deal, though.

    • RetroRob says:

      The Yankees signed him to a 900K contract and then DFA’d him. There’s an agreement between the Yankees and Nix. They want to clear a spot on the roster, but he will be added back on at some point.

      • Sweet Dick Willie says:

        I may not understand the system, but if he’s DFA’d, doesn’t he have to pass through waivers?

        If he does, it doesn’t matter if he and the Yanks have an agreement if another team claims him.

        But I admit I may have that wrong.

        • RetroRob says:

          I’m not sure I understand the system either! Yet here’s my guess. I believe the Yankees signed Nix to a contract that will pay him 900K no matter if he’s in the majors or the minors. He agreed up front to accept assignment to the minors, meaning he still gets his 900K if he’s playing for the Yankees or the Railriders. The Yankees clearly do not intend to pay him that salary in AAA, so I believe this is a move to clear a roster space until the start of the season. Any team claiming Nix would be required to pay that 900K, which means he won’t be claimed, and he’ll be back on the MLB roster by opening day, or sometime shortly thereafter.

          I could be wrong, but that’s my guess.

  2. RetroRob says:

    So Derek’s fat? Not a major story, although I won’t dismiss it also. After it was clear Derek broke his ankle and would have to rehab for a few months, my first thought was how was he going to stay in shape? For a SS about to turn 39, and a player who has worked out religiously in the off season, we really don’t know how this will impact him if he can’t even begin to put weight on his foot until January. He will no doubt show up looking in shape, but how the lost training and agility exercises will impact him throughout 2013 is an unknown. So, yeah, the fat Jeter stories are funny because he’s Derek Jeter, but I don’t think as Yankee fans we can dismiss what it may mean to his conditioning at his age and position.

    • Yankee Fan 1 says:

      He has the best trainers money can buy. Once he is cleared to work out, he’ll get his ass in gear. It’s not all that shocking he’s gained weight since he can’t even walk. I’m slightly concerned about how he will recover from the injury, but I’m not at all concerned about an extra few pounds that will melt off.

      • LarryM., Fl. says:

        It will not be EZ to melt the weight away and regain the agility. But it’s Derek Jeter. If anyone can do it. He can!

      • RetroRob says:

        I agree, basically. Jeter works as hard as any player, and I believe that’s one of the reasons he has remained productive through age 38. Yet this will be the first time he’s been shut for three months, and who knows how hard he’ll be able to push it once he does come back. So I expect will look to be in good shape come April, yet I wonder if the lost conditioning and specialized exercises he’s done in the past offseasons will have a lingering impact.

        Last, it’s hard to tell anything from those pictures. I was just looking at some photos from the Thanksgiving holiday, and I have one of my brother that looks like he put on 30 pounds based on the angle, lighting and what he was wearing. My brother physically could put a Marine to shame. The picture is an illusion. In this case, Jeter has put on a few pounds, but that could be a TMZ or National Enquirer type picture that looks worse than reality.

        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          Yeah. I’m not concerned about Derek Jeter showing up out of shape to Spring Training.

          I do hear the packages he sends women home with, though, now include a half-eaten doughnut. *snare*

          I’ll be here all night. Tip Plouffy on the way out.

          • jjyank says:

            Fuck, I got stiffed again.

            • Robinson Tilapia says:

              My choices were you, him, and Rich in NJ for that punchline. One of you would have accused me of stalking……and the other was Rich in NJ.


              We’re cookin’ tonight. I put a bit too much maple syrup in the Maple Manhattan. I did, however, send the wife to pick up the takeout in Williamsburg.

              • jjyank says:

                I’m…um…having a bagel? Fuck man, I really need to go grocery shopping.

                Speaking of Rich though. Since when did you become mortal enemies? Reading through that Russel Martin thread, I feel like I missed something.

                • Robinson Tilapia says:

                  Meh. Not worth rehashing.

                  • jjyank says:

                    All I need to know is that you’re a stalker with none of your own opinions. Enough for me.

                    • Robinson Tilapia says:

                      Opinions? Never….except for all those other comments when I actually have one.

                      Ready? Drumroll please….

                      I never liked the second Javy Vazquez trade. Not from the first second. I screamed at my phone in the middle of an ice cream shop with Pineda/Montero popped up as an MLBTR push on my IPhone.

                    • jjyank says:

                      I know, I know. I’m just playing with troll-inspired memes. Speaking of which, did you see the shit at the end of the Martin thread before it got deleted? Fucking gold.

                    • Pat D says:

                      Fun stuff at the end of the Martin thread? Shit, what did I miss now?

                    • jjyank says:

                      You were included, Pat. It was basically just someone who changed their handle several time to impersonate myself, Tilapia, and Pat in separate posts about how we all wanted to have oral sex with each other. That’s the gist of it. Mike deleted them in the morning, but I saw it. Real classy stuff.

                      I didn’t even post in that thread before that shit went down, which makes it even funnier to me. We have groupies!

                    • Pat D says:

                      Wait, what? Really? Oh, shit, that’s too funny. Now I’m quite unhappy to have not seen it.

                      So who in the hell did we all piss off, I wonder.

                    • Robinson Tilapia says:

                      Oh, I saw those. Lame.

                  • Pat D says:

                    You made fun of a dead guy earlier today!

                    (At least that’s what I’m saying until you explain yourself.)

                • MannyGeee says:

                  Since Tilapia disagreed with Rich and told him he was wrong became a stalker

  3. mrdbag says:

    An extra few pounds? He looks terrible. Is asdrubal Cabrera available?

  4. VT Yankee Fan says:

    Anyone have an up to date 40 man roster? I have 42 names on my list so clearly I missed a couple of drops.

  5. I’m strangely glad that I immediately identified what game that was, and from what season.

  6. Gonzo says:

    Dan Johnson was non-tendered. Let’s hope he goes to the NL.

    8 HR’s in 71 AB’s against the Yankees. I’m sure I don’t have to remind anyone though.

  7. ton lon ton says:

    any hope for shane spencer making the club again?

  8. Bob Buttons says:

    Would be nice if the Yanks look into Dan Schlereth and Ryan Sweeney. Nice depth at low prices and might actually do better than league average.

    • Gonzo says:

      I wonder what Schlereth’s medicals look like.

    • Sweet Dick Willie says:

      What part of Schlereth’s pitching record makes you think he can be better than league average? His career numbers are worse than Cory Wade’s were in 2012.

      He’s pitched in the Show for parts of 4 years and has a WHIP of > 1.5, and walks 8.8/9.

      Very difficult to be successful when you’re putting that many men on base.

      • Bob Buttons says:

        From 06-09 Boone Logan pitched in parts of 4 season and has a WHIP of 1.692
        Schlereth at this point has better WHIP, same HR/9, slightly better strikeout rates (at expense of walks) and gives up considerably less hits per 9 innings. Schlereth has better opp OPS against LHB, not just for first four seasons of their careers, but their career to 2012.
        Also Schlereth walks 5.9/9, 8.8 is his SO/9.

        If Logan can become something of use, Schlereth, only two years older than Logan was at that point, can become something of use.

    • Ted Nelson says:

      I’d look at Schierholtz and some others before Sweeney personally.

  9. Preston says:

    Schierholtz, Sweeney, and Torres all DFA’d today. I don’t really see any of them being major upgrades over Dickerson, but on a Milb deal one of them might be worthwhile.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Totally agree. If you’re going to piece this together (which I’m not convinced is actually the plan), then all hands on deck.

    • Ted Nelson says:

      Schierholtz + Cody Ross = strong, probably cheap RF platoon. Schierholtz has been at about .350 wOBA against RHP the past two seasons, and while he slumped in 2011 Ross was at .419 last season and .377 in 2010 against LHP.

      Ian Stewart is still a slightly intriguing name to me. On a MiLB deal at least.

      • Preston says:

        Ross might not be interested with the role/money that we’d give him. But maybe GM’s are smart enough nowadays not to buy into his 2012. It would be a good fit and they’re both good defenders to boot.

        • Ted Nelson says:

          You’d be buying a little high on Ross, but I think it’s known that he’s a platoon guy. He’s usable against RHP, but bad for a corner guy. Williangham has almost no platoon splits, though he’s also a terrible defender. If the price is in the Willingham range, then almost definitely pass. I was thinking maybe around $4 mill. Could even go 2 years.

          Law speculates Schierholtz might be a good fit for the Yankees, for whatever that’s worth. He was projected for a salary of $1.6 million next season. I’m not seeing why Philly didn’t want him at that price, or couldn’t trade him at that price. What am I missing? Seems too good to be true, so I must be missing something.

          Anyway… For somewhere in the $6-8 million (annually) range the Yankees might be able to approximate Swisher’s production for the next year or two.

  10. Pat D says:

    It’s not looking good for Misters Bonds, Clemens and Sosa.

    • Preston says:

      These writers with their sanctimonious bull crap really piss me off. I was 12 in 1998, it was common knowledge that Mcgwire was using Andro, something that later would be classified by the FDA as a steroid, at 12 I knew that just because the FDA hadn’t gotten around to classifying it didn’t mean it wasn’t a steroid. I knew at the time that he was “cheating”. These reporters are the people responsible for doing investigative journalism on the game. If they thought it was such a big deal why weren’t they screaming it from the mountain tops at the time. They failed to do their job, just like Bud Selig failed to do his. They wanted the magical summer of 98 to save baseball, so the stfu. Then when it got really out of control and their was public outrage over it, they finally acted and now put all the blame on the players. I personally don’t think steroids should have anything to do with whether or not a guy is a HOFer. But I’ll make a deal with all of these moral arbiters of the BBWA, every baseball player who used steroids can be kept out of the HOF if every writer who was working in 98 who didn’t decry Mcgwire as a cheat quits his job and agrees to never write about sports again. Oh, and Curt Schilling can go fuck himself, is he going to give back his rings because Papi and ManRam were juicing, I don’t fucking think so, so get of your high horse dude, I wouldn’t be surprised if that fat ass juiced. Sorry I’ll end my rant now.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        Of course and, just like the NFL several years before them, they had no problem selling tickets and magazines off the backs of these guys. It’s ridiculous.

        Curt Schilling should give back his rings as collateral for the money taxpayers had to give out because of his bullshit business dealing.

      • jjyank says:

        I agree with pretty much all of this. I do think that PED guys should get into the Hall. Selig is an ass for letting it slide at the time, but those guys weren’t breaking the rules. It’s been stated here many times before, but the “old school” guys had their own ways of getting an edge. It’s all relative. It’d be a damn shame if players of the Clemens/Bonds caliber were kept out because the writers suck.

        • RetroRob says:

          By his length of service and the changes he’s brought to the game, Selig will be elected to the HOF one day. Yet how can anyone vote for Selig if they won’t vote for a player tainted by PEDs?

          Players have not only been cheating since there has been baseball games, they are expected to cheat, to do whatever they can to win a game. Now, however, the writers have decided some types of cheating are okay, and others are not. It would be funny if it wasn’t sad.

      • Grit for Brains says:

        I don’t even comment on RAB anymore but I do come by sometimes to read stuff and wow! EPIC RANT! could not of said it any better.

    • Knoxvillain says:

      Bonds and Clemens should be in, but I wouldn’t vote for Sosa. Bonds was already one of the best players ever before he started using, and Clemens was one of the best pitchers ever. Sosa was only good because of steroids, that’s the difference.

      Besides, is there any actual proof that Bonds and Clemens used? Everyone knows they did, but is there proof? I thought I heard that Bonds failed a drug test back in 2003 but I couldn’t find it anywhere.

    • MannyGeee says:

      Screw the writers. That holier than thou bullshit is such a cop out because they have an incessant need to be outspoken on something. If you won’t vote for Clemens, McGuire, Bonds or Sosa because they were the greatest players of a generation where there is a suspicion of steroids (across the entire league), then you don’t get a vote for ANYONE in this generation of ball players.

      You don’t get to judge Bonds for a suspicion for being great, but vote for Craig Biggio for being merely good because no one ever accused him of steroids use.

    • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM) says:

      “Three of the six criteria for election to Cooperstown are sportsmanship, integrity and character.”

      Then why are Gaylord Perry (spitball was illegal for most of his carer) and Ty Cobb(the biggest douche to ever play the game) both in the HOF?

  11. Robinson Tilapia says:

    I was thinking about the whole driving/parking stadium thread we got involved in a couple of days ago. I need someone to refresh my memory as to what the controversy with the parking lot provider to the stadium was. If I remember correctly, the parking is run privately, and they are in default of some sort.

    If that’s true, it royally sucks. I will be honest and say that, if the parking was run by the city itself, then, fuck yeah, I’d say “too bad. If you’re driving, you’re paying.” A private company charging drivers an obscene amount, then pocketing it, just because it’s Yankee Stadium, then defaulting on their agreements or whatever, is just rotten. If that’s it, you drivers should absolutely pay less.

  12. Finally says:

    When’s the post for the “5 Longest Singles of the Year” or “5 Most Important Walks of the Year”??

  13. Ethan says:

    No podcast tonight? It’s been a while :(

  14. OldYanksFan says:

    Cashman: New catcher “likely” already with organization

  15. Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM) says:

    While the subject of steroids has been brought up, my friend and I got drunk the other day and we decided something: not only should steroids be legal in all professional sports, they should be mandatory.

    Hear me out: they should stay banned in all college, high school, and amateur leagues, with the punishment being a ban from the sport in any nonprofessional setting. However when it comes to the big leagues in all sports, we pay big money for the highest level of entertainment, and who in the world is going to argue against the level of entertainment in the NFL right now and the MLB of the late 90′s and the early 2000′s?

    • Knoxvillain says:

      I’ve thought about that myself. In all honesty, I think it would be awesome to see people hit 70 home runs in a year again. I really don’t give a shit who is cheating or for how long they’ve been doing it.

      It’s also very hard to blame then when I would do the same thing if I could.

    • G says:

      Yes let’s make a health risk mandatory for professional sports. That would have people just flocking to play in the major leagues.

    • RetroRob says:

      I think that’s sort of close to the Bill James argument. A couple years back, he suggest that as time goes on, everyone, not just athletes, will have greater access to drugs that will in some form improve their lives, make them healthier, stronger, etc. Fifty years down the line, many people will scratch their heads wondering why there was any outrage.

      • RetroRob says:

        …and I should add that while I don’t fully buy his argument, I understand directionally where he’s going with it.

  16. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Just finished watching Will Ferrell’s “Casa de Mi Padre.” I actually thought it built up into something pretty hilarious. Thoughts?

    • Preston says:

      It was funny, my main takeaway was Hollywood will let Will Ferrell do whatever he wants. They know he’s a draw, so if he wants to do a Western shot entirely in Spanish even though he doesn’t speak a word of the language they green light that thing.

    • Pat D says:

      Its humor is both obvious and subtle. You have to watch out for all of the intentional inconsistencies, which are pretty hilarious (like how many times Diego Luna’s glass and liquid within change during the final shoot-out). I also admire it for being almost entirely in Spanish. Pretty meta overall.

  17. Chris says:

    I’d go with Sweeney over Schierholtz as a platoon LH right field bat. He’s a better fielder and he has the better career splits against RHP. Nate has the power edge but that’s it really, though they could make it simple and invite both to ST.

    Cody Ross as a platoon seems a little far fetched, someone will give him more money and/or years than we will.

    Ian Stewart on a minor league deal could make sense as a part time third baseman, always wanted to see what he could in Yankee Stadium. Though he has holes big enough in his swing to drive a truck through.

    Soto on a minor league deal is worth a look, he’s been horrible lately but why not throw his name against the wall with Cervelli and Stewart. I personally don’t think Romine is close to ready for the majors and I’m not considering him a real option right now.

    Wouldn’t mind seeing Lannan added for depth but it will never happen, he’s going somewhere with limited starting pitching.

    • Jersey Joe says:

      I definitely agree with Sweeney. He has proved himself at the MLB level and for all we know Dickerson could be a total disaster. He’s never had 300 PA in a season, and Sweeney has had 3 seasons with over 300 PA. He can be had fore a bit over $3 million I’m guessing. If Ichiro wants over $6 million, Sweeney is a no-brainer. Stewart also could be okay for the Chavez role.

      Soto: no. Bad defense, no hitting really. I agree I think we have to go with Cervelli and Whiteside/Stewart for now. Look at the Astros of the early 2000s. Brad Ausmus definitely wore out his welcome playing for 6 years, but having Cervelli/Whiteside/Stewart types can’t be that bad if we are waiting for Murphy, Sanchez, even Romine, right?

  18. Preston says:

    I want the Yankees to sign Mark Reynolds, there I said it. He can DH, back up Tex and stand at 3B in case of emergency. Forget contact hitters. I want Homers!!!

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Totally. The only right-handed power the Yankees have right now is A-Rod (nope) and Teixeira (still mashes lefties). Reynolds would be a real good fit, plus he can actually hit righties and wouldn’t need a platoon partner. Gimme gimme gimme.

    • Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle AKA True Yankee(TM) says:

      Ha…I mean I’m not saying I wouldn’t I’m just saying fans would crucify him, I mean he’s basically a RHH Curtis Granderson.

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        The difference being Granderson is viewed as a corner piece, core type of player.

        Everyone knows Renyolds is a HR or bust guy and they treat him accordingly.

  19. nsalem says:

    I realize that his playoff numbers represent a very tiny sample size (54 PA’s) .146/.241/.271 with 19Ks. However I don’t think Reynolds hitting approach is tailored for October baseball. I believe that that is what we would get from him in future playoff situations. To me this October despite getting to the second round was the most disappointing of all playoff runs in the 21st century. I hope everything is done to avoid players whose hitting approach brought us down that road.

    • Preston says:

      Let’s use a different small sample size 62 AB’s at the stadium, .306/.380/.742, yeah, so just like you make the narrative about contact hitters in the playoffs, I’ll create a narrative about how Mark Reynolds loves the big stage in NY and will become a way better player than he’s ever been as a result.

      • Ted Nelson says:


      • nsalem says:

        I think if he came here his numbers would eventually regress back to what he is over his 3400 or so career PA’s and he would even be worse in a playoff situation. Baltimore released him and he was playing in a ballpark which should be much more friendlier to him. Hi Camden numbers are
        .191/.312/.416, He has struck out 10 less times than Curtis over the last two years with 24 less HR’s. I just don’t he would help us. Maybe you are right and if he does come here I certainly hope you are.

        • Preston says:

          I was kidding, I think he’ll be around a .235/.332/.475 hitter, because that’s who he is. Which makes him an upgrade over what Ibanez did last year, and he’s 11 years younger, so I like that too. Plus he’s a RHB, everybody wants lefties because they play up in the stadium. But the fact is our current lineup needs balance, he also can hit above average against RHP so no reason to platoon him. He’s a butcher with the glove, but he still can do it, so the roster isn’t completely inflexible. And I don’t care about K’s, this team doesn’t have a K problem, we had the 10th lowest K rate in the league a year ago (as in above average), which is a great trade off for being 2nd in walks and 1st in ISO. Reynolds adds to our strengths helps make up for some of the walks and homers we are losing from Swisher and Martin. It’s a great no brainer fit to me.

    • Andy Pettitte's Fibula says:

      If you wanna be skeptical about signing Reynolds, you only need to look at the fact that he’s been worth 0.6 bWAR over his last 430 games and -0.1 WAR last year playing a full seaon of predominantly 1B and DH which was worse than what the Yankees got from Chris Stewart.

      He could be decent as RH DH and PH off the bench but his glove is brutal wherever you to to hide him.

  20. Flyer7 says:

    Cash has a plan and names here make alot of sense…Sweeney, Ross, Schierholz, Soto, Reynoids et al but something says T-R-A-D-E…also no problem starting season with Romine or Cervelli with a vet other than Stewart

  21. mt says:

    What about Robert Andino (non-tendered by Seattle who got him from Baltimore for Trayvon Robinson) as a backup 3b, 2b, SS?

    Mark Reynolds is intriguing – he will get paid a not insignificant amount so it would have to be a 1 year – I would think he could get a 2 year contract somewhere.

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