Nov
18

Martin: Yankees “continue to have conversations” with Scott Hairston

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Via Dan Martin: The Yankees “continue to have conversations” with free agent outfielder Scott Hairston. The former Met would presumably fill the Andruw Jones role of designated lefty masher rather than replace Nick Swisher outright.

Hairston, 32, hit .263/.299/.504 (118 wRC+) overall in 398 plate appearances this season, but he tagged southpaws for a .286/.317/.550 (135 wRC+) batting line with eleven homers in 199 plate appearances. He’s posted a 121 wRC+ against lefties in his two years across town (119 career). Hairston is a decent defender in the corners and can fake center field in an emergency. Reports this offseason indicate that he’ll likely sign a two-year deal worth upwards of $8-10M, which is pretty pricy for a platoon bat. He would be an upgrade over 2012 Jones obviously, but this season was very likely a career year.

Categories : Asides, Hot Stove League
  • stu phillips

    They love b players.

    • funny

      They love to play several different guy and one position. Roster is full of bench warmers.

      • Ted Nelson

        The bench is full of bench warmers… Who do you want on the bench if not a guy like Hairston? He’s one of the better bench guys around.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          The answer is obviously to have Josh Hamilton on the bench, just in case.

          • MannyGeee

            Mattingly, cut those sideburns…

        • MannyGeee

          LOL… How about a bench full bench playerz… Who knew!

    • Ted Nelson

      Yeah, CC, Cano, A-Rod, Jeter, Tex, Granderson, Kuroda, Mo, D-Rob… What a bunch of scrubs!

      They already have a core, so they are filling the roster around it. Teams signing big time free agents are often building a core. Every offseason the same team is not going to add several top free agents. That’s not sustainable.

      • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

        It doesn’t mean they should just sign ANYONE that is suited for a bench role. It would be nice if they made some good choices. Not another guy who strikes out a ton and doesn’t walk. Might as well bring back Andruw Jones in that case.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Jones walked in 10.4% of his PA this year, and that was his lowest walk rate in a decade. He drew more walks than Ichiro in 2012 and two fewer in 2012 than Hairston did in 2011-2012 combined.

          Just because someone strikes out a ton doesn’t mean they don’t walk. In fact, the opposite is usually true.

          • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

            Oh Mike. You and your pesky facts!

        • Ted Nelson

          Jones was a very good bench player in 2011, then fell off a cliff in 2012. Seeing as all the reports were that he worked harder than he had in years last off-season to increase his playing time, it was not exactly easy to see the cliff coming.

          Guys who excel in one or two areas and have some liabilities are the only real bench players you’ll find in free agency. Otherwise they would be starters. You can develop or trade for starters to stick on your bench, and you can overpay in FA to stick a starter on your bench… but generally you are looking for either guys whose strengths you can exploit and weaknesses you can hide (a platoon guy, for example, or maybe a health/age risk like Chavez or Ibanez) or someone who is passable all around and somewhat versatile (not the best examples, but guys like Nix or Dickerson or McGehee).

    • Steve (different one)

      If only the Yankees could get A list players like Ryan Theriot, Brandon Crawford, and Hunter Pence!

    • The Big City of Dreams

      And old guys

    • yankee mike

      They love to buy used cars, but used cars don’t start well on cold nights in October.

  • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula

    I’d take him to platoon with Ichiro in RF or as part time DH.

    Only thing that concerns me is adding a low OBP guy who’s value is pretty much tied to him hitting homers.

    • Laz

      Decent move if only as a platoon with someone else. He shouldn’t be facing righties.

    • MannyGeee

      That is a goddam expensive platoon with Ichiro and Hairston… Bt I dig how you’re thinking…

  • uyf1950

    Sure $8 to $10MM is a little pricey for a platoon player but considering Jones made a little over $2.5MM with incentives last season and he stunk the 2nd half of the year the roughly $4MM plus Hairsotn would cost per season doesn’t sound all that bad. Hairston doesn’t strikeout as much as Jones is a better fielder and has a much better BA with RISP then Jones he’s probably worth more then Jones.
    Then if the Yankees re-sign Ichiro for about $8MM for 2013 the Yankees will have the outfield covered.

  • Will The Thrill

    Meh. I’d rather have Jonny Gomes or Ryan Ludwick, even if they are a bit more expensive.

    • Steve (different one)

      Gomes is interesting, but my impression is that he is a terrible fielder. They could go that direction, using Gomes as the RHed DH, but then I think your LHed DH has to be able to play the field better than Ibanez. Don’t think they could use 4 spots to fill RF/DH. But I agree, as a bat, Gomes is a fit.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I’ve liked Gomes since the Tamps days and always thought he’d become something big. I’d be fine with him in the Ibanez/Thames role.

        • Laz

          I’d much rather they go after gomes than hairston. They are both righties so wouldn’t make sense to get both.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            To me, that would depend on how the outfield situation is resolved. Tough to judge one against the other in a complete vacuum.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        I think the RH DH is most likely going to be a Jeter/ARod combination.

        • Steve (different one)

          Good point.

  • funny

    More quick fix players gotta love those Yankees. Here is an idea NY how about you actually go out and get full time players to play a position? NY Yankees soon to be the Mets part 2.

    • Mike HC

      The entire roster is full time right now, even before any moves have been made, except C, RF and DH. They will most probably acquire a full time catcher at some point, leaving only RF and DH as platooning guys. And that might change by the end of the off season too.

    • Steve (different one)

      Question: from 1996-2000, who was the Yankees’ LFer?

      • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

        Well played sir!

    • Robinson Tilapia

      *flush*

  • Dave

    What’s joke this teams becoming.

    • Will The Thrill

      You said it. Since 2010 it feels like the F.O doesn’t care about winning a World Series. They get these “bandage” type of players whether it be a pitcher or position players, to just get by. They’re frugal ways, poor drafting, and disastrous trades have got me fed up.

      • Travis L.

        I know, right? How about that feont office? How dare they use old guys to reach the post season (every year) when there arent any young talented farm players ready. Damn them.

      • dan gen

        WHY IS U GET AND THE OTHER DONT

      • Get Phelps Up

        I wish the Yankees would stop getting “bandage” players like Eric Chavez, Raul Ibanez, Hiroki Kuroda, Andy Pettitte, Andruw Jones (2011), Bartolo Colon, Freddy Garcia (2011), Marcus Thames and Lance Berkman.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          The best part is that the late-90s dynasty teams were full of “band-aids.” LF, DH, even 3B and C at times.

          • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

            Short memories indeed.

          • dan gen

            YEAH AND NOW THEY LOSE WITH THOSE PLAYERS

            • Get Phelps Up

              Is your caps lock key stuck or something?

              • jjyank

                I think his brain is stuck.

                • dan gen

                  jerk……..189.189,189.189….yanks stuck on that turkey

      • Ted Nelson

        Are you even old enough to remember the late ’90s bud? Based on your comment I really doubt it. Check out those rosters for a minute. Educate yourself a bit.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I can help you both pack your bags if you wish.

  • Mike HC

    I think Hairston would definitely be a nice pick up.

  • Rick is a Cerone

    Our best years were with flex/role players at multiple positions such as Curtis, Strawberry, Spencer, Sojo and even Girardi in his later years to name only a few. It’s not about having an All-Star at every position. I like the move and it makes sense considering the offense we get from other positions like 2b that many other teams are jealous of however this could backfire on the Yanks without resigning a front-line OF such as an Ichiro. (5 days of Ichiro with a day or two off thanks to a Hairston or a real shot for Dickerson could work).

  • Get Phelps Up

    They’re looking at someone who crushed LHP to possible be a 4th outfielder! What a joke they are!

  • Duh Innings

    Oh Jesus just re-sign Ichiro to be the RF, Jones to be the #4 OF, and Ibanez to be the primary DH for 2013 only.

    Granderson LF / Gardner CF / Ichiro RF / Jones #4 OF / Ibanez DH who can play a little LF and RF in a pinch.

    $6M for Ichiro, $5M deferred as he deferred $5M last year so the Yanks pay only a mil for him in 2013, $3M for Ibanez, $2.5M for Jones (half a mil raise.)

    Jones has 434 career HRs including 14 with 34 RBI in only 233 AB in 2012 and ten (10) Gold Gloves – that should count for something.

    • Duh Innings

      The Yanks somehow got rid of A-Rod and signed Pierzynski for 2013 only, they could theoretically let go of or (in the case of Gardner and Nunez if he makes the team) trade everyone in the starting nine and bench save Teixiera after 2013. If they re-signed Martin for two or three years only Martin, Teixiera, and Sabathia would be under contract beyond 2013.

    • DC

      Have you seen him in the outfield lately? He runs like he’s carrying those 10 gold gloves in his pockets.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      DON’T FORGET JAKE PEAVY.

      • Francesa

        Is Peavy STILL re-signed by the Sox? Better check the daily transactions to make sure.

    • Laz

      Ibanez can face righties, but vs lefties have jeter or nunez be the dh.

  • Steve (different one)

    They should also try to trade for his brother.

  • Steve (different one)

    Getting an older guy like Hairston IS the first step to getting younger.

    Going with “bandages” in 2013 tells us they want to hold spots for their OF prospects, even if it means a little weaker production for 2013. Otherwise they’d be exploring trading those kids for an established OF.

    To me, unless they are scrapping the payroll plan and brining in Hamilton, this seems like the next logical solution. I wouldn’t be against a trade, but then you just start the cycle all over again, just like Granderson.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Exactly. It buys them an extra year in order to see how these guys develop without sinking big money and filling a position for the next four or five years.

      Remember when we didn’t have to explain this on here?

      • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

        Those were the days…before the trolls found this place. Sigh.

    • Laz

      Rather look into gomes over hairston, but your right. Trading 3-4 prospects for a 26 yo rfer is not the long term answer. Keep the prospects and maybe you can then find a cheaper rf, and maybe say goodbye to grandy.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Well, a 26 year-old RF WOULD be a good long-term answer if we’re talking about the same folks.

        Of those 3-4 prospects, how many will actually become as successful as that one player possibly yet to even enter his prime?

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I agree with Mike that I think Hairston’s coming off a season that’s hard to repeat, but as a bench piece and in the Andruw Jones role? I think that’s about right. I’d certainly be game.

    In a starting platoon? Probably would not be my top choice, but this team has, as many actually sane people over 12 here have correctly pointed out, won big with makeshift solutions at positions before.

    • Steve (different one)

      But as the short half of the platoon, isn’t that the same as “coming off the bench”? He’ll play more than a late innings pinch hitter type player, but your LHed OFer (Ichiro? Dickerson, just to see heads explode…?) would be the “starter”, and Hairston would spell all 3 guys.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Good point.

        • Steve (different one)

          Thinking about it more, I get what you are saying, it would be great if they had 3 starters with no platoon splits. In that case, you’d use your 4th OFer just to rest guys. But getting that full time RFer will require either a long commitment (swisher), huge money (Hamilton), or gutting the system (upton).

          Would be nice to have one of those guys, but the reality is more likely to lead us to the platoon.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            I hold out hope they figure out a better fourth option than you and I can.

  • Chris

    Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald wrote….

    “The Royals are listening to offers for Eric Hosmer, Mike Moustakas, Alex Gordon, Billy Butler, and even Wil Myers. The Rays, meanwhile, are listening on James Shields and Jeremy Hellickson.”

    The Royals are very interesting because they could be a potential trade partner with the Yanks. I personally like Butler and Gordon but Butler is a 1B/DH type and the Yankees are going to keep a rotating DH.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Great potential pickups. Probably not so great price tags.

  • pistol pete

    Hairston would be a great pick up. We need a righthanded bat. He could easily start if there’s an injury. I don’t see signing Ichiro if we already have Gardner and Granderson. Too many leftys.

  • dan gen

    $1500 to sit at a ballgame where the team is pieced together…..why?

    • DC

      Then don’t fucking go.

  • dalelama

    Wow we are really starting to stink up the joint…The stench of our decaying franchise is becoming quite powerful aka the mid-80′s. Scott Hairston that’s the ticket….

    • DC

      Lamaland.

  • dan gen

    189,189,189,189,189,189,189,189,189,189,189,189,….you dont have to worry about that…..

  • mike

    forgrt a right handed DH,we have Arod,he will DH quite a bit,besides usually if you only hit against left handed pitchers you will not bat with any frequency and your timing will suffer and do poorly