Nov
05

Report: Soria willing to setup for Yankees

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Via Andrew Marchand: Right-hander Joakim Soria is willing to pitch as a setup man for the Yankees just so he could have an opportunity to play with Mariano Rivera, his idol. “If the Yankees call, we will be all ears,” said Soria’s agent, who has heard from eight teams so far. “If there is a fit, Joakim would be elated to work with Mo. He would close everywhere except there.”

Soria, 28, missed all of last season with his second Tommy John surgery, but was one of the game’s very best relievers prior to that. Marchand says the Yankees have not yet contacted Soria’s camp, but that’s not unusual this early in the offseason. New York has had on-and-off trade interest in the former Royals closer through the years and they were going to take him in the 2006 Rule 5 Draft before Kansas City beat them to the punch, so I imagine a phone call will occur at some point. The Yankees need relief help and landing Soria on a one-year, incentive-laden deal with an option for 2014 and the promise that he’s first in line to take over as closer following Rivera’s retirement would be a fantastic get.

Categories : Asides, Hot Stove League

77 Comments»

  1. Richard Leo says:

    will 4M plus incentive be enough for Soria?

  2. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Why not?

  3. Robinson Tilapia says:

    I’m game. Sure.

  4. CF says:

    Get this done Cash. Low risk, high reward.

  5. Bob Buttons says:

    I love this guy and would enjoy seeing him become the heir, but deep down inside I want to see a home-grown guy like Robertson or Chamberlain or Montgomery to get a shot at the gig after the retirement by #42.

  6. Kevin G. says:

    Replace Soriano with Soria

  7. Ton Lon ton says:

    Sign him now
    Not later
    Now

  8. jjyank says:

    Mo/D-Rob/Joba/Aardsma/Soria.

    Pretty awesome late game bullpen, no? I’m excited.

  9. vin says:

    Report: Soria willing to be paid by the Yankees

    • Ted Nelson says:

      It’s basically the opposite. The report is saying he may be willing to come to the Yankees even if it means getting no saves, and therefore probably getting fewer free agent dollars down the road.

      • Billygoat Gruff says:

        Who said he doesn’t think the Yankees wouldn’t have the best offer this year AND next?

        • Ted Nelson says:

          I’m using that whole logic thing…

          Free agent relievers are generally rewarded for saves. The Yankees aren’t very likely to double someone coming off TJS’ salary compared to the next highest bidder. That is pretty much the rule for a good closer compared to an elite set-up man in FA (probably 3x for an elite closer). The Yankees do often seem to bid against themselves for free agents, but I don’t think it goes to that extent.

          • I Live In My Mom's Basement says:

            Your theory holds water for the typical case. But in this case, Soria has proven himself as a closer; what he needs to do now is prove he is healthy.

      • vin says:

        Soriano was willing to get paid by the Yankees. For a guy like Soria, coming off his second TJ surgery, only really eligible for a short term deal, he’s looking to go to the highest bidder. He already has “The Proven Closer” tag. Saves are less of an issue right now for him. Seems like every year there’s a FA closer who claims he is willing to go to the Bronx. The big test is if he would go to the Yanks while another team is offering more money.

        • Ted Nelson says:

          Soriano got a three year deal worth over $35 million. It gave him a relatively long-term guarantee and more money than we know of him getting offered to close.

          Soria is not necessarily in that situation. He’s not necessarily looking to go to the highest bidder, because the highest bidder is likely going to be marginally higher than all the other bidders. If his goal is to maximize his earnings, he’s looking to close so that he can pile up saves and get paid next year. If he’s piling up saves he can still falter a little coming back from TJS and get paid. If he is anything short of spectacular as a set-up man (and the difference between spectacular and pretty good for a RP can be a few bloppers dropping in and a few gusts of wind over the course of the season) he risks losing the “proven closer” tag and gaining the “washed-up former closer” tag.

          • I Live In My Mom's Basement says:

            It seems a bit shaky to presume that professional baseball GMs are complete simpletons in their decision-making processes. I believe the vogue for several years has been to hire Ivy League graduates who are able to do a little more than write pithy tags on post-it notes.

  10. Conor says:

    I would love it, but it seems to great to be true.

  11. Blake says:

    Rivera, Robertson, Soria, Joba, Logan , Montgomery……pretty tough pen potentially

  12. Drew says:

    Yes to all of this.

  13. Francesa says:

    I’m hearing Eli Whiteside will be his personal catcher.

  14. the mick says:

    humberto sanchez anyone

  15. Get Phelps Up says:

    Keep SoRoMo intact!

  16. JobaTheHeat62 says:

    i would love this

  17. Slappy McWaterbug says:

    I just got a roster-related boner.

  18. dan gen says:

    THIS IS THE GUY WHO HAD THE YANK ON HIS NO TRADE LIST…

  19. Logan says:

    they will probably try to lock things up with their own guys (mo, kuroda, and pettitte) before moving onto other FA’s

  20. MB923 says:

    Houdini back to the 7th inning then, maybe occasionally pitching the 8th if there were off days needed for Soria. Or for Rivera, which would make Soria the closer that day.

    • G says:

      This is actually an improvement. Soria has spent his career locking down full innings (generally, obviously there are exceptions). Theoretically this could free Robertson from being attached to a single inning and allow him to move around depending on where his best skill (stranding men) is needed.

      • jim p says:

        The Binder is all powerful, and as it is decreed, a reliever must have an inning, regardless of game situation.

      • Ted Nelson says:

        That is much easier said than done. It’s not a video game. A RP has to warm up, can’t be dry humped too often, and has to get somewhat regular work. They tried to do the fireman thing with DRob early in 2011, actually, and he got dry humped to death but rarely got into games. If you get a guy up every time one man gets on after the 6th (because you have to get him up well before the jam if you want him to be warm when the jam happens), you’re going to end up warming him up a lot and not putting him in a lot. And if you do put him in with a man on in the sixth, perhaps the bases get loaded in the 8th and you could really use him more then. The fireman role is more theoretical than practical.

  21. Andrew says:

    Isn’t there even a little concern that Soria is coming off his 2nd TJ surgery? The success rate for guys with one TJ surgery is pretty good, but my understanding is that the success rate for guys with 2 TJ surgeries isn’t nearly as good.

    • Ted Nelson says:

      There’s concern, but that’s why most people think he’s a candidate for a low-base salary, incentive laden deal.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Oh yes, definitely. The track record for 2x TJS guys isn’t good at all. Capuano is pretty much the only one who made it 200 IP without another major arm problem.

  22. JLC 776 says:

    This was a welcome story to wake up to! Hot Stove finally has me excited!

  23. mike says:

    What sort of trade value would a guy like joba have?

  24. pounder says:

    Not gonna happen,not with the payroll limit looming.

  25. MannyGeee says:

    Yes to Soria…. NO to everyone deeming Montgomery as any real part of this bullpen for 2013

    • nsalem says:

      Montgomery’s WHIP has gone down as he has ascended each level. He was dominant at Trenton. He if head a good ST and continued to do the same at Scranton why wouldn’t you want him here? Soria at the right price I agree with you.

      • MannyGeee says:

        Not that I “wouldn’t want him here”… but an old friend used to tell us about a microwave burrito. let the kid get here, then lets bank on him. Don’t crown his ass just yet.

        Hell, bank on Aardsma first. he’s almost fully healed (fingers crossed) and has a great track record in the bigs.

    • Ted Nelson says:

      Dude is already dominating AA and AA+ (AzFL) this season. If he doesn’t make it to MLB next season I would be surprised. He’s a relief pitcher.

      • MannyGeee says:

        You know who else pitched really well in Trenton? Kei Igawa

        I would be EXTREMELY surprised if he did show up any time before September 1.

        • nsalem says:

          That is true, Igawa wasn’t terrible in the minors. I think this is a different story. Ofcourse he may not be ready for the majors right now. However up to know he has struck out exactly 40% of the batters he has faced in the minor leagues. I think that is special. All I said was that if he continues on that path in Scranton don’t you think it would at least deserve a shot with the Yankees earlier in the season?

  26. Andrew says:

    I guess I would like to see what the rumored salary figures are before I really pass judgement on this. I mean, if he’s coming to NYY on a deal like the one Aardsma got, then wonderful. But if we’re talking a base salary in the $4-5M range + incentives, then the Yankees are better off with other options.

  27. Wayne says:

    Do we lose a draft pick if we sign him

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