Rosenthal: Rockies could dangle catcher for rotation help

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Via Ken Rosenthal: The Rockies are looking to trade for rotation help and may be willing to dangle one of their catchers as bait. Colorado has Ramon Hernandez, Wilin Rosario, and Jordan Pacheco on the 40-man roster and Yorvit Torrealba in camp on a minor league deal.

I doubt the Rockies would be willing to trade the 23-year-old Rosario following his 28-homer, fourth place finish in the Rookie of the Year voting last season. I’ve written posts about Hernandez and Pacheco in the last eight months or so, but both guys have their warts. Hernandez is old and declining while Pacheco isn’t much of a catcher. With Phil Hughes on the shelf due to a back injury, the Yankees don’t really have an extra starter to deal anyway. The team went all winter saying they’ll go in-house behind the plate and I have no reason to think that will change now.

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  • Robinson Tilapia

    Nothing there sounds like an upgrade, just more bodies to compete. At some point, you’ve got enough middling options to throw out there and see what sticks.

    I also don’t know who there, other than Rosario, would exactly be worth trading from out pitching depth for.

    Not a match. Consider Yorbit if he gets cut.

    • Laz

      Agree, especially don’t want to give up any pitching depth. Would love to get Rosario, but is someone like Hernandez worth giving up Phelps? I don’t think so.

    • trr

      Agree, and why would the Rockies trade Rosario?

    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

      So, what middling options do the Yankees have though? I don’t see any.

      Poor options, yes. Middling? Not really.

      I’m not saying we should necessarily go after a Rockies catcher (as nice as that would be). I’m basically just griping. We HAVE no average catchers. That was Martin. Our catchers suck.

  • kenthadley

    Does Colorado seriously think they can get a 175 IP starter for Pacheco?

  • jjyank

    I remember really liking the idea of Ramon Hernandez a couple of years ago, but now? Not so much. He was pretty bad last year and will be 37 in May.

  • mike

    beyond that – Hernandez makes 3mm+ this year

  • Midnight Rider

    Rosario would be heads and tails above anything Yankees have in their whole system, no chance any of their broken down ML “can’t miss” prospects get him..

    • Robinson Tilapia

      So would Buster Posey and a 1950’s Yogi Berra. The other thing those three have in common is that none of them are probably available.

      • Now Batting

        Sanchez and Phelps for Rosario?

        /YourTradeProposalsSuck

        • jjyank

          Where’s Melky and IPK when you need them?

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Apparently they could have landed us Miguel Cabrera, according to a thread a few weeks ago.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          The prospect crush is taking over, because I’m about to say I’d rather just keep Sanchez. I know. Don’t say it.

          I doubt he’s available. I’d imagine it would take more than that if he was.

        • trr

          No!

  • LK

    Rosario would be great, but I’d have to think he’d be very expensive.

    • Laz

      Not to mention he scares me a bit. He so far is very much a product of coors .297/.348/.609 at home. .242/.273/.448 away.

      • Bertin Lefkovic

        Ugh! Nevermind.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com GT Yankee

        Because of this I wouldn’t get carried away, but how’s a combo of Romine, Logan and either Nova or Phelps (prferably Nova) sound?

        Anyone know how this guy is defensively?

        YTPS…I know

        • Robinson Tilapia

          23 y/o catcher who came in fourth in ROY voting and probably isn’t on the block? I’d say it starts with one of the MiLB outfielders, includes Nova, and you’ll be lucky if they don’t ask for Sanchez as well.

          I say pour yourself a couple of (heavy) drinks and wait and see what Sanchez does in the minors this year. That’s good advice for everyone, actually.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com GT Yankee

            Citron on the rocks anyone? :-)

            Actually, could be the smart move. I’m hoping/and thinking that Sanchez someday will have better overall numbers than this guy away from Coors.

          • Laz

            How I feel. Would love to get him on the Yankees, but those away splits scare me enough that I don’t want to give up the trade the Rockies will be asking for. We aren’t talking about a Flores for him, would have to be a good package.

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      Expensive is OK by me. Would Ivan Nova, Adam Warren, Austin Romine, and another prospect bring back Rosario? Could the Yankees sweeten the deal by being willing to take Todd Helton back in the deal as well? If not, how much more would it cost to get him?

      Regardless of what happens with Phil Hughes and his back problems, the Yankees should sign Kyle Lohse to a one-year (or longer) deal, bite the bullet on the lost draft pick, especially since they are already getting picks from the Indians and Nationals, and give the Rockies whatever it will take to get Rosario.

      • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver? (Formerly Austin Aunelowitzky)

        Oh, you got the Lohse thing….my bad.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Something tells me that’s not exactly what they have in mind when talking about dealing from their catching surplus. I think you’re looking at Hernandez and Pacheco as the trade options, while Yorbit may just be available on the side of the side of the road before long.

      • mitch

        Exactly. Colorado is rebuilding and Rosario is one of the building blocks. The Yankees don’t really need him either. I’m pretty hopeful the catcher of the future is already in the system.

        What they need is a better stopgap. At 3 mil, hernandez wouldn’t cost much in terms of prospects. I’d probably take a shot and see if he can rebound for one more decent season. I’m all for throwing a bunch of crap against the wall and hoping that something sticks.

  • Travis L.

    Is there anything that Colorado has that we would want to give up a starter for? I know it said that they “could” dangle a catcher…what else would they dangle?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Good thing Denny Neagle’s not on the team anymore. He’d answer that last question quite differently.

  • Greg

    rather have Jake Gibbs at catcher than any of the available flotsom and jetsem.

  • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver? (Formerly Austin Aunelowitzky)

    Sign Lohse, deal Phelps ??

    • kenthadley

      Exactly the thing they shouldn’t do unless they think Phelps is garbage. If this team gets any older the social security payments will push them over 189 next year.

      • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver? (Formerly Austin Aunelowitzky)

        Haha. “Na na Na na na na live for today, and don’t worry ’bout tomorrow heyeyeyeyyyyy.”(Song way before you were born by The Grass Roots…..you could look it up.)

        • kenthadley

          then it was made before 1949

  • Greg

    pretty sure that if Cashman were to follow the “advice” of all of these bloggers, Yankees would be lucky to win 70 games.

    • jjyank

      I still love that Cashman quote from a couple years ago.

      “If you listen to the fans, you’ll be sitting with them soon enough.”

  • endlessjose

    Adam Warren or David Phelps are AAAA guys who will never make it here.They should trade one of those guys and resign Wang and Lowe.

    • jjyank

      Hah, no. You’re a name value whore.

  • TJ

    Not too big on a catcher that can smack the ball in Coors Field. Montero could have done the same thing if not more had he been a Rockie.