Open Thread: 3/19 Camp Notes

Someone forgot to tell the Hooters girl to get out of the way of popups. (AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

Someone forgot to tell the Hooters girl to get out of the way of popups. (AP/Kathy Willens)

The Yankees were held to just two hits — Brett Gardner single and Ichiro Suzuki double — in their loss to the Phillies this afternoon. The only other baserunners were Melky Mesa (walk) and Chris Stewart (error by Michael Young). Adam Warren started and allowed two runs on seven hits and a walk in 3.2 innings while Joba Chamberlain struck out the only man he faced. David Aardsma tossed a perfect inning with two strikeouts. Boone Logan also made his Grapefruit League debut, striking out two and allowing a bloop single in an inning work. Here’s the box score and here’s the rest from Tampa…

  • Derek Jeter said he’s not concerned about the ankle stiffness that caused him to be scratched from the lineup this afternoon. “I’m not concerned because I was told this was going to happen,” he said. The Cap’n remains day-to-day. [Adam Berry]
  • Meanwhile, Joe Girardi confirmed Jeter may serve as the DH on Opening Day, which is not at all surprising. The Yankees are playing the Red Sox and Jon Lester figures to start. They’ve been talking about DHing Jeter against lefties all spring. [Mark Feinsand]
  • Logan and his barking elbow were scheduled to throw a simulated game today, but obviously he felt good enough to pitch in the game. “It feels good, period. It really does though, I promise,” said the left-hander. [Andy McCullough]
  • Clay Rapada threw long-toss today as he tries to come back from a bout with shoulder bursitis. He doesn’t have any pain but it is becoming increasingly unlikely he will be ready in time for Opening Day. [Dan Barbarisi]
  • The Yankees will welcome the Red Sox to Tampa tomorrow afternoon. Vidal Nuno gets the start while CC Sabathia throws in a minor league game. That game will be broadcast on YES, ESPN, and

This is your open thread for the evening. All three hockey locals are in action plus Robinson Cano‘s Dominican Republic team will play Puerto Rico for the World Baseball Classic Title (8pm ET on MLB Network). Talk about any of that stuff and more here. Have at it.


  1. trr says:

    i see where Chase Headly broke his thumb; apparently even a trade rumor with the Yanks is enough to get you hurt

  2. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Spence, Cedeno, or Kelley make the team if Rapada isn’t ready?

    And, because we love to compare ourselves to major league pitchers, I broke my foot 21 years ago and still occasionally wake up with a stiff or slightly swollen foot. See? I’m just like Derek Jeter.

    • Tom says:

      I’d go for Kelley… the two LOOGY approach seems like just a force fed solution which just taxes the rest of the pen. Mo, Robertson, and Joba can all get lefties out so I’m not sure why you need two lefty specialists.

      With very few off days in April (I think there are only two) and starters probably not working as deep into games early on, the Yankees will need innings out of the pen.

      That said, I wonder if Eppley is also in that option list.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        Oh wow. I just always assumed he’d make the team, but I wasn’t exactly counting roster spots.

        I’d say Eppley obviously makes it before the others.

    • MannyGeee says:

      You, good sir, are no Derek Jeter.

      P.S.: I am still waiting on my gift basket. call me….

  3. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Did I really write “pitchers” there?

  4. jjyank says:

    So the summer after my freshman year of undergrad, I was missing baseball after high school and played in a NJ statewide 18+ league. Apparently I’m still in the Facebook group for it, and occasionally the league commissioner polls people on baseball topics for fun. Today’s was “who is your most hated major league player?”

    I was pretty shocked to see how many people answered “Robinson Cano”. I know the commissioner is a Mets fan, and it stands to reason that a lot of his friends/players are Mets fans as well. But holy crap, still. The only people I know who hate on Cano are Yankee fans who don’t think he hustles, but even those people shouldn’t be calling him their “most hated player”. About a quarter to a third of the answers (out of about 40 total) named Cano. I can’t believe that many people in the NY area would say that.

    The rest were the obvious crew. A-Rod, Schilling, Ellsbury, Pedroia, Youkilis, Papelbon, Valverde, etc. Fernando Rodney got a lot of hate as well. Anyway, I was just really surprised to see Cano so well represented.

    • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver? says:

      In Cano’s case, and in some of the other players you named, it’s his greatness that they hate on.

      • jjyank says:

        Possibly, but this isn’t a nation-wide poll. They’re all in the tri-state area. So all the Red Sox guys are understandable. Rodney as well, since he was the closer for the Rays and he had that stupid arrow shooting thing going on. And everyone hates Valverde. But Cano? He doesn’t belong in that group.

        To quote one comment verbatim: “Rodney, Cano, Reyes. Anyone who plays the game without class.”

        I wasn’t aware Cano had a “lack of class” issue.

        Basically I’m just shocked that so many people should name Cano in a group that should be at least 50% Yankee fans.

        • The Big City of Dreams says:

          I wasn’t aware Cano had a “lack of class” issue.


          Yea that is weird. He has had no issues off the field. Cano doesn’t do a dance or celebrate a lot besides a few peace signs here and there. He doesn’t even jog around the bases like many players do after they hit a HR. If anything Robbie is kind of a reluctant star. There is a shy, reserved side to him despite the smiles and peace signs.

          • jjyank says:

            I should clarify the group’s mentality, and I’m now realizing this. A previous poll was “If you could change one rule in the MLB, what would it be?” And an alarming number of people responded that the would enforce people wearing their hats straight, of all the fucking things. So maybe this group is just bat shit insane.

            • The Big City of Dreams says:

              Oh God the hat thing smh. I’ve spent too many hours in the past defending Joba and his hat. One person said ” It’s the hip hop generation and Joba thinks he’s a tough guy. He looks like a thug” I told the person wait you’re actually concerned about his hat because it’s flat brimmed. I could care less about his hat all I care about is how he pitches. Mind you this was another Yankee fan who I’m sure thinks about guys like Ruth and Mantle but excludes all of their out the field events. Not trashing Ruth or Mickey but c’mon now a flat brim bothers you but what they did doesn’t get brought up.

            • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

              The flat brim REALLY annoys me though. Not enough for a rule change, but it looks pretty dumb.

              • forensic says:

                The brim isn’t that big a deal as long as it’s not too crazy out of the ordinary. But the turned hats do bug me, especially when it’s as absurdly out of place as Rodney’s.

              • The Big City of Dreams says:

                At the end of the day it’s a flat brim no harm no foul.

          • forensic says:

            I have to disagree with you here. He does celebrate a little, drop his bat and watch the ball go. He also takes some time around the bases, though not as absurdly as many others.

            He’s not as overbearing as many other players, I think partially due to the team he’s on, but he has some in him. And you’ve seen more of it come out even just in the WBC with some of his reactions.

        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          “Rodney, Cano, Reyes. Anyone who plays the game without class.”

          In other words, “anyone darker than Mark Teixeira.”

          • jjyank says:

            Actually, it wouldn’t surprise me if this was a race thing.

            • The Big City of Dreams says:

              I was going to mention it but didn’t want to jump to conclusions. The Cano thing just screamed maybe it’s a race issue.

            • SWPL hell (AKA Yankee Space parader) says:

              Perhaps to better emphasize your point, you should name specific individuals in this group (apart from you, of course) who are the racists.

              • Robinson Tilapia says:

                In conclusion, before I head out to bed (since I’m fighting off some sort of bug) and leave you all to ponder what I’m about to say:

                You’re not necessarily calling something “racist” by saying that race played a part in it.

                “Racist” is actually a pretty useless word.

                Good night!

    • Bob Buttons says:

      They’re just jealous that their 2B was crap until Murphy made them respectable.

      • jjyank says:

        The commish is a Mets fan, but they all aren’t. And even as a Mets fan, your most hated player is Cano? Really? Not a hated NL East rival? It’s pretty fucking sad.

        • Bob Buttons says:

          I don’t know, I’m just listing random reasons. Though some do say they hate Yanks more than NL east “rivals” because for starters, they aren’t contenders ATM, and it’s kinda like a sibling rivalry, where the Mets hate the Yanks with all their might and Yanks don’t care much if they are not directly invovled.

          • jjyank says:

            Then we Yankee fans need to keep Mets fans locked under the stairs. If they’re that vindictive, it’s really sad.

            • The Big City of Dreams says:

              You know I never disliked the Mets until the 2007 season. That was the yr the Mets started off hot and the Yankees were slow getting out of the gate. WFAN was probably not the best thing to listen because it was a parade of Met fans making calls “This is a Met town…Yankees are done…Mets have a future…Yankees have no future…” Well we all know what happened and since then I can’t stand that team or organization. Plus a guy like Bob Heussler doesn’t help. I can’t stand the team but won’t root for injuries. He’s gone out of his way to flat cheer for injuries when a Yankee goes down ie Johnson a few yrs ago and Tex a couple of weeks ago.

              Maybe I should stop listening to the radio.

              • Robinson Tilapia says:

                I hated them in the 80s, just because I was one of the few kids who didn’t jump on the bandwagon, but I can’t say I hold any ill will towards them other than needling friends for years now. It’s still New York baseball.

                • Manny's BanWagon says:

                  Screw that. The only time I could ever root for the Mets is against the Red Sox and even that’s somewhat questionable.

                  I sincerely hope they go 0-162 and citifield burns to the ground.

                • The Big City of Dreams says:

                  Needling friends for being Mets fans is always fun especially when you remind them they haven’t made the PS since 2006.

  5. Mads says:

    Would a trade between the Rangers and Cardinals make sense? Profar or Andrus for Taveras. Cardinals get a future shortstop and Rangers get a impact bat in the outfield

    • MannyGeee says:

      Shit… that actually might.

      +1 for a non-Yankees related trade topic and another +1 for not making one that totally sucks! Well played, Mauer

      • jjyank says:

        Profar for Tavares would be interesting. I doubt Andrus or Taveras though. It’s only 1 year of Andrus, right? Reminds me of our Johan Santana situation. Why pay top prospects for a guy for one season and the pleasure of paying him a shit ton of money? Might as well wait a year and go from there.

        Taveras is a top 5 prospect in all of baseball. I doubt he gets traded for 1 year of Andrus. Profar though? That is a real interesting thought. I don’t know enough about the two of them individually to give a real opinion, but it’s definitely interesting.

    • Bob Buttons says:

      They talked about that at SBNation a while back. Rarely read them anymore but that article was not bad.

    • Barry's Gift Basket says:

      It does.

      Kind of reminds me of the Montero-Pineda deal (sorry for bringing it up again).

      Anyway, I don’t think they’ll pull the trigger, If/when Beltran gets hurt, Taveras comes in to stay for 2014… because Beltran is a FA after this year, right? I’m not sure. And it is basically the same with Andrus and Profar except Andrus doesn’t get hurt, Profar may have to play second these next couple of years, with Olt playing first and Kinsler left… idk, it is a good problem to have anyway.

    • Barry says:

      To me they’re billing Taveras as the next Pujols to their fans, like their new franhise face in the waiting. I doubt a shortstop with no pop would make them jump.

  6. MannyGeee says:

    Great picture. I smell a round of “Caption This Pic” coming on….

    “Imma give that bitch a baseball to the face. American bitches LOVE baseballs to the face.”

  7. TomH says:

    Anyone see the article in today’s (I think)NY Times on Hal S.?

    Why does he keep making that point about how 200 million doesn’t get you a World Series ring. Surely, the point should be: But does it get you, annually, in the post-season where, if you get lucky-hot, you can win a Ring. At that annual competition the Yankees have been spectacularly successful.

    Interesting intimations of father-son tension in that article. I hope they’re now buried with George and don’t affect the running of the team today.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      I’ll give it a read tonight. Hadn’t heard about it.

    • Manny's BanWagon says:

      He’s an ass.

      $200+ million doesn’t get you a ring but only a fool would argue that $200+ million doesn’t get you a better team than $189 which in turn increases your odds of getting a ring.

    • Barry's Gift Basket says:

      I did, and gotta say that I kinda like Hal and the fact the he is some sort of pilot/wheater man, but cutting payroll now, with aging stars already eating a bunch of the payroll is complete bullshit IMO.

      You are spot on with ;”Why does he keep making that point about how 200 million doesn’t get you a World Series ring. Surely, the point should be: But does it get you, annually, in the post-season where, if you get lucky-hot, you can win a Ring.”

      Some people say that they’d probably do the same ’cause is good business or something like that, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it or that it is good for the team right now.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

        Not sure it’s even good business. Pissing off the fan base and alienating fans isn’t generally good long term for teams.

        • TomH says:

          Not sure it’s even good business. Pissing off the fan base and alienating fans isn’t generally good long term for teams.

          As to that, note his response:

          “Do I like it when the fans are upset at me and think I’m not doing a good job?” Steinbrenner said. “I wouldn’t be human if it didn’t get to me somewhat because I do care what they think. But, nonetheless, what I feel is best for my family, the organization, our partners, I’m going to go with that.”

          • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

            Yeah, I read it. I just think there is a good chance what he thinks is good business ends up biting him in the ass.

            Building winning teams more efficiently would definitely be good for business.
            Building mediocre teams (or even just teams that the majority of the fanbase perceive to be mediocre) just to save money could very well be bad for everybody involved.

          • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

            Wow, that comment was a nice way of saying, “Yes, I know the fans are upset at me. I just don’t care as long as I get money!”

            Count me in on that list of annoying people who say they miss George.

  8. Robinson Tilapia says:

    OK, I’ll watch the WBC tonight. DR and PR should be a ton of fun. In the battle of my Caribbean brothers, I think I’ll go with Robbie and DR.

    Love that stadium so much.

    • Barry's Gift Basket says:

      Are you Cuban?

      • Robinson Tilapia says:


        • Barry's Gift Basket says:


          Some time ago I used to post under some sort of catalanian mix of my first and midle names; Luisergi.

          This one time, before game 4 of last year’s ALCS, I came here for advice about either going out on a date with a girl I liked or, you know, “the hell with her I wanna watch the game”, I remember you and several others giving advice.

          So I went out with her (needless to say, that was one of the best choices I’ve ever made) that time and we are a couple now. She is cuban too, so I like cubans very much.

          • MannyGeee says:

            I remember that conversation. I don’t think my advise was any good. Glad to see you (likely)didn’t listen to me and instead got the girl.

            *In fairness, I typically default to ‘go get the girl’, but I may have been emotionally distraught since this was playoff time if memory serves.

            • Barry's Gift Basket says:

              It was playoff time, an elimination game no less. That was the tricky part.

              • Robinson Tilapia says:

                That’s why god invented highlights.
                I remember this conversation perfectly now.

                • Barry's Gift Basket says:

                  And MLB atbat.
                  I remember I sort of followed Plouffy’s advice and checked my phone acouple of times while she was at the rest room… just to see that the Yankees were getting their asses kicked, gotta say that kind of relaxed me and the date went great.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            You made the right choice.
            Of course, I haven’t dated a Cuban woman since about 1993.

          • Barry says:

            Cuban girls have the softest breasts.. like velvet. Too much info?

            • Robinson Tilapia says:

              That s because we rub leche condensada on them.

              • Barry says:

                I don’t know what that means. Tilapia, you know I don’t speak Spanish. Whatever it is, I rarely remember a set of tits for the way they feel in my.. Anyway all I have to say is that they’re awesome.

                • Robinson Tilapia says:

                  You can figure that one out, Barry. If not, use the Google Translate.

                  • Barry says:

                    I got condensed milk. Which both confuses me and makes me think you’re talking about ejaculate.

                    • Robinson Tilapia says:

                      We love ourselves some condensed milk in the Caribbean and, in my close to 39 years on this earth, I never associated condensed milk with sperm until just now so thanks, Barry. I’ll never look at a tres leches cake the same way again.

                    • Barry's Gift Basket says:

                      Jesus Christ Barry get your mind outta the gutter!

                    • Barry's Gift Basket says:

                      Ugh, Tilapia will picture 3 Barrys doing their dirty business on his cake. He may never eat cake again.

                    • Robinson Tilapia says:

                      Yet another sub-thread that, say, Plouffy or Forensic will look at a couple of hours from now and wonder “How the hell did they get to comparing jizz to condensed milk?”

                    • Barry says:

                      AHAHAH that’s funny.. I don’t know I put condensed milk and titties together and that’s what I got. But yup my mind lives in the gutter. It’s become a problem. Need SA.

                    • forensic says:

                      Heh, I’ve actually been lurking and following along all night. Just didn’t really have anything to say. :-)

    • MannyGeee says:

      Hard not to go with DR when Giancarlo Alvarado is on the mound.



      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        I was just explaining to my mother-in-law that it only seems like these countries can produce 25-man rosters of All-Stars at the drop of a hat.

        Still, though, with the series on the line, that’s who you go with? I had to Google the guy.

        • MannyGeee says:

          I didn’t bother with the Google when the flashed his 2012 stats with Okinawa 3 seconds before Reyes tattooed a hanging breaking ball.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            I was probably still watching ESPN Deportes, where they acted as if I’m the asshole for not knowing who he was. No, Ozzie, when in doubt, you’re always the asshole.

    • forensic says:

      Nah, it’s all about College Basketball for the next 6 days (including today)!

  9. MannyGeee says:

    Cano getting IBB in his first AB tonight.

  10. MannyGeee says:

    Mike Aviles has pissed me off so hard since that HR that i had to cut him from my fantasy team today. Seriously, fuck that guy.

  11. Stratman9652 says:

    The Phillies aren’t having the best of luck using Hooters girls as ball girls. One caught a fair ball a few days ago and threw it into the crowd.

  12. MannyGeee says:

    God I can only hope all these ‘meaningful innings’ wear down whats left of those delicate shreds that are Jose Reyes’ legs.

  13. DR vs PR battle of who’s fanbase are more obnoxious.

    • mannycruz says:

      pretty ignorant statement, it’s a cultural thing.

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

        So what? They’re still obnoxious. If it’s a culture thing then they’ve created a culture of obnoxious fans.

        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          It’s not a culture thing. I’m sure there are just as many older fans in DR who aren’t about the flash and find it obnoxious.

          I honestly don’t care when it’s not being done against the Yankees in victory. It’s all in fun.

          Now, if you excuse me, I have to do my patented post-comment dance.

      • forensic says:

        I wouldn’t really categorize what he said as being ignorant. It’s just his opinion on what’s been transpiring in the tournament. There’s nothing wrong with that.

      • Bob Buttons says:

        And the ignorance accuser becomes the ignorance accused.

      • This isn’t soccer. I was at Yankees Mets day game last year where Russell Martin hit the walk off HR off of Rauch, it so happened to be the day of the PR Day parade. I was lucky enough that my fathers company was able to get us tickets a few rows behind home plate. There was this obnoxious lady in front of us waving two large PR flags, every time a Yankee got a hit, walked or really anything. Completely ruining the game, when I asked her to stop waiving the flags I was called a racist and she continued until I had to talk to security. There is a difference between pride in your country and being completely obnoxious about your own culture. From what I saw in the stands (and from the players) during the WBC, obnoxious is a good word to describe the behavior.

    • Brooklyn Nets says:

      Your ignorance is astounding

  14. Jacob the OG says:

    drop will myers pick up seager in a fantasy 5 keeper league?

  15. Dropped Third says:

    She wouldn’t have to move out of the way of my balls…

  16. Tom says:

    Anyone watch the show Splash? (‘stars’ doing platform diving)

    I must admit I got sucked in for two reasons:
    - The trainwreck aspect: Louis Anderson (400+ lbs) couldn’t even get out of the pool after his first practice dive
    - Katherine Webb – Brent Musburger had it right, she is smokin’

  17. WhittakerWalt says:

    “The Yankees were held to just two hits…”

    I have a feeling we’re going to see this phrase a lot in the coming season.

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