Apr
20

Game 16: Back For More

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(Tom Szczerbowski/Getty)

The Yankees put a good hurtin’ on the Blue Jays last night, but this is baseball and yesterday’s score doesn’t mean anything. The Jays are desperate to prove they are legit and aren’t going to simply roll over following one blowout loss. These two teams will play each other six times in the next nine days, so this is as good a time as any for Toronto to prove themselves as AL East threats.

As for the Yankees, they just have to continue to weather the injury storm. They’ve done a pretty good job of that lately, winning eight of their last ten games. Here’s the lineup that will face finesse lefty Mark Buehrle…

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. DH Ben Francisco
  3. 2B Robinson Cano
  4. 1B Kevin Youkilis
  5. LF Vernon Wells
  6. C Frankie Cervelli
  7. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  8. SS Eduardo Nunez
  9. 3B Jayson Nix

And on the mound following his complete-game shutout of the Orioles, Hiroki Kuroda.

Apparently it’s snowing in Toronto, so the Rogers Center roof will be closed. This afternoon’s game is scheduled for 1:07pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads
  • Drew

    What isn’t Boesch starting over Ichiro vs the lefty?

    • Laz

      Ichiro is a .438/.440/.500 hitter vs Buehrle in 49 PA.

      • trr

        Buehrle can be quite hittable at times. let’s put up another nine-spot

  • Mike myers

    The picture above shows the scientific talent passing from cano to wells. It’s done through microscopic DNA strands found in the palm sweat gland. Nature is amazing

    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

      The cellular process of osmosis works exactly the same way.

      Amazing indeed.

  • Laz

    I’m speechless as to why Francisco is in the #2 slot.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    And of course once again I need to leave in less than five minutes and will miss probably the entire game.

    • Havok9120

      Killjoy.

  • Havok9120

    I love the noon (for me) start time after a night game. SO MUCH BASEBALL.

    • jjyank

      I find few things in life better than a lazy Saturday afternoon with some baseball and a bit of day drinking.

      • Havok9120

        TO THE BOURBONMOBILE!

  • Havok9120

    Oh, by the way, I’m totally taking credit for last night’s lopsided as my Franco-Prussian War reference clearly spurred the team forward to victory.

    FOR PRUSSIA!

    • Winter

      Can we pick a different one this time? Maybe Seven Weeks (Austro-Prussian) War or the Second Schleswig War?

      • Havok9120

        My plan was to go for hoping Austro-Prussian but I didn’t want to hope for too much.

        I’ll happily take a Second Silesian War or something similar. Just gimme a win in the name of Prussia.

    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

      FOR PONY!

      (Come on, somebody please get the reference.)

  • Winter

    I normally love day games. Why do I hav to be on a plane for this one???

    I mean, I know why, but still.

  • Havok9120

    Wow. Nice, quick play there Nunez.

    And the news that Cervelli will be getting 80% of the starts for now has made me happy.

    • Eddard

      Shoulda been this way to start the season. They’ve finally realized what kind of ballplayer they have in Frankie. I coulda told them 3 years ago.

  • MeloJeter

    What an awful play from BG

  • Whats left of gardners war

    Garnder is a mess this year.

    • Whats left of gardners war

      Gardner

    • SDB

      But he steals bases!

      Oh, wait, Stewart and Wells have both stolen more bases than him so far this month…

      • jjyank

        Small sample sizes rule.

        • SDB

          Small sample size, yes, but it’s worrying that he’s barely made any attempts to steal or used his speed on the bases in almost three weeks.

          At this point I really wouldn’t mind moving Ichiro to center and letting Boesch take Gardner’s spot in the lineup. It’ll be nice to have another live bat in there.

          • jjyank

            The answer to getting Gardner in a groove isn’t to bench him. He’s got a 103 wRC+ so far this year, so it’s not like he’s really hurting them at the plate. If you’re benching anyone, it needs to be Ichiro and his horrid 53 wRC+.

          • Havok9120

            Bwuh??

          • vicki

            *spit-take*

            note to self: don’t read SDB posts while drinking coffee.

          • Dalek Jeter

            You’re joking right?!

            Gardner>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boesch>>Ichiro

  • Whats left of gardners war

    Wow he just missed lauching that ball.

  • Dela G

    VERNON!

  • Havok9120

    Vern!!

  • Eddard

    Wells has done it again! What a pick up.

  • jjyank

    WELLS!

  • Mykey

    Awesome. I was afraid Vernon Wells may begin coming back down to earth. Keep it going.

  • nycsportzfan

    Game isn’t on Radio in western mass plus not on TV(unless u have yes).. Was wells HR a bomb?

    • jjyank

      Not a bomb really, more like a laser shot down the LF line. It hit the foul screen maybe like 10 feet or so above the wall.

      • nycsportzfan

        No kidding, another one of the foul pole ey?

    • Dela G

      nope. laser shot down the left field line, hit the bottom of the foul pole screen

  • nycsportzfan

    Lets go Hiroki!

  • SDB

    I’m a bit disappointed that Sterling’s shortened his call for Wells to just “The Bronx is Vernon.”

    No more “Wells rings the bells”, apparently. I feel so… deprived.

    • Now Batting

      The sole reason I bought MLB TV when I was out of market was because I couldn’t take listening to John Sterling anymore.

  • Havok9120

    Thanks ump.

  • Mykey

    Haha oh my, what a terrible call.

  • Eddard

    Not even close. Thank you, Laz Diaz. LOL!

  • Roadgeek Adam

    Laz Failaz strikes again.

  • Whats left of gardners war

    What pitch is hirok trying to throw that going that high?
    Ephous pitch?

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    So I just showed up. What’s up with the call?

    • trr

      Juuuuuuust a little outside

    • Havok9120

      Laz Diaz is the homeplate ump.

      Need I say more?

  • trr

    Nunez…grrr.
    where’s eddard

  • nycsportzfan

    jesus, when did burehle become nolan ryan? How many K’s the guy got? Everytime i look up dudes are in 2strike counts.. The guy throws like 75mph, lets rock this toolbag!

  • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

    Nuney must’ve been afraid of Laz Diaz’ strike zone swinging at that pitch.

  • Havok9120

    Gardner with the hand armor.

  • nycsportzfan

    Why is Ben freaking Francisco hitting 2nd? The guy sucks!

  • Whats left of gardners war

    Francisco didnt want gardner to beat stewart and wells Nice first pitch swinging asshole
    Cant wait to get grandy back.

  • nycsportzfan

    Can we please get Melky Mesa up here, becuase i can’t stomach Ben Fracisco…

    • Whats left of gardners war

      When does musty come off the dl. Havent heard shit about the guy since st.

      • nycsportzfan

        I don’t know…

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      Better yet, find someone who can actually hit LHP.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Isn’t Mesa striking out like every other AB in AAA right now?

      • nycsportzfan

        no, hes actually not k’ing lately… I think hes only k’d like 3times in his last 19ab’s..

        • Dalek Jeter

          And his K% is still in the mid 30s…think about that. Think about how much he was striking out at the beginning of the season. You’re complaining about guys K’ing against Buehrle, at least they’re putting up decent ABs. Mesa would be three pitches and straight back to the dugout.

        • jjyank

          He went 3 games without a strikeout, and his K% is STILL too high.

        • Havok9120

          There’s no real reason to think he’s gotten enough of a handle on the Ks to be even a semi-effective MLB player. Not yet anyway.

      • jjyank

        35.2%.

        Why do so many people assume he will be something other than terrible at the MLB level? I don’t like Francisco either, but Mesa ain’t no savior.

        • nycsportzfan

          who the hell said hes a savior??lol Its worth trying the gamble, as Francisco is terrible is all.. Savior.lol

          • jjyank

            *sigh*

            Just tell me that you do realize that there is a very real possibility that Mesa would be worse than Francisco. Because there is. And then if that happens, the team loses some OF depth because Francisco is gone.

  • nycsportzfan

    Kuroda is dominating this bum team! I love it!

  • nycsportzfan

    I hope Burhle dosen’t K anyone else, hes all ready got 4k’s.. Thats enough for him..

  • nycsportzfan

    Youk is stinking lately.. Its time for him to pick it up again.. We need him against lefties.. Holy crap, he struck out again against burhle!!!lol

  • Eddard

    Not even fucking close. God these umps are bad.

  • Havok9120

    Man. At least he’s using the same zone for both.

  • nycsportzfan

    jesus, stop striking out against this guy! Whats he gonna have 15ks by the time this ones over? Its mark burhle, at least hit the ball!

    • Eddard

      It doesn’t help that Laz Diaz is calling balls 6 inches off the plate as strikes. That curve to Cervelli wasn’t even close. Kuroda’s strikeout of Arencibia was just as bad a call.

  • Mykey

    Go home, Laz. You’re drunk.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Blue Jays are doing their best impression of the 2005 Yankees.

  • Whats left of gardners war

    Its one thing to make a bad call but on 3-2 counts and game turning points
    This guy should be fired.

  • trr

    we need a SS
    Nunez ain’t gonna cut it

  • Whats left of gardners war

    Dais changed that whole inning

  • nycsportzfan

    we should of started a all lefty team and wells vs these guys. Are righties are drunk..

  • nycsportzfan

    Fucking Nunez! Is the dude ever gonna get a hit this yr again?

    • trr

      No.
      No, he is not….

  • trr

    I’m not one who usually goes in for Ump bashing, but this guy behind the plate is way off. yes, it’s affecting both teams, but’s gonna throw off everyone’s approach at the plate.

    • Havok9120

      Laz Diaz is pretty well known for this nonsense.

      • nycsportzfan

        maybe dude has the under? How can u possibly be this bad and be a ump in a high school game let alone majors? No ones gonna say anything about it, so it’d be pretty easy to get away with.. Just saying, hes pretty bad..

  • Dalek Jeter

    I’ve never seen so much whining during a game we were winning. Shit I’ll call the wambulance for you guys, or should I just get you a burger to go with your french cries, maybe some cheese with your whine

    #puns work better in real life.

    • jjyank

      It’s pretty comical.

    • trr

      since when is stating the facts whining?
      Luckily we’ve got kuroda going, he know how to take advantage of a ch-ump like Diaz

      • jjyank

        Are we reading the same comments?

      • Dalek Jeter

        I’ve got no problem with Ump bashing when it’s warranted, but begging for Melky 2.0 and his 35% K-Rate at AAA because Ben Fransisco is so terrible and claiming Gardner should be benched for Ichiro/Boesch, and that Nunez is “done” is just ludicrous. Especially in a game with a little league neck-to-ankle strikezone.

        • trr

          me, I didn’t say anything like that

          • Dalek Jeter

            Not saying you, but you have to admit that it has dominated the comment section this afternoon.

          • jjyank

            Nobody said you did, dude.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Reading this over now. I agree this looks pretty pathetic thus far. Let’s scroll down and see if it gets better.

  • nycsportzfan

    Jesus, our righties are 0-9 with a shit load of K’s not including Wells..

  • Eddard

    I love how people are already abandoning Nuney after a large sample size of 35. This is what I was talking about with these sabermetrics folks, they’ll use small samples when it fits their narrative. And Nuney came back from getting hit in the wrist. I thought wrist injuries took longer to come back fully from, I guess that doesn’t apply to Nuney.

    • Dalek Jeter

      To be fair, I’m much more willing to think Nunie will bounce back but using the same SSS I’m announcing Ichiro done.

      • jjyank

        Nah. You don’t need SSS to make the Ichiro argument. It’s the people that think he can still be good that are using SSS.

      • Havok9120

        We can’t reasonably expect logical consistency from Eddard. Anterograde amnesia is a bummer that way.

      • nycsportzfan

        At least Ichiros avg is rising by the minute.. Hes hit in like 10 of 16 games or something.. Hes got 3hits, 2doubles since yesterday.. I’d put my money on Ichiro, seeing ho he just hit 323BA wit us less then a yr ago, and did some damage in the postseason when no one else was outside of Ibanez as well…

        • Eddard

          I seem to remember us only getting 1 run off Verlander in game 3 of the alcs. I wonder who drove in that run and provided our only offense of the game.

        • jjyank

          He had a good 6 weeks in 2012. He had a bad 2011, a bad ~4 months in 2012, and so far a bad 2013. I think I know what the likely outlier here is.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Ichiro’s wRC+ the last two seasons: 65.5
          Nunez in that time: 90.5
          Gardner’s in that time: 104.5

          Other things to take into account: Nunez is playing short, an offensively weak postition, Gardner and Nunez are in/going into prime, Ichiro is way WAY past his. Let’s be real here.

          • nycsportzfan

            who gives a shit what positon hes playing.. Short stop stopped being considered not a offensive positon like 15yrs ago dude..

            • Dalek Jeter

              Yeah, that’s why the average wRC+ for SS last season was 86, while the ML average is 100. But let’s continue anecdotal evidence. Since A-Rod, Tulo, Jeter, and Ripkin exist(ed) every SS should be an offensive powerhouse.

            • Havok9120

              That’s….completely wrong.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                Grandpa must have put him on his knee and told him about Mark Belanger.

            • vicki

              90s and aughts were a golden age for shortstops. if you’re too young to remember baseball before that time, and you think life will be like that going forward, you need to read your history, son.

  • Whats left of gardners war

    We have no one to replace nunez
    This is where keeping pena would have been a good idea

    • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

      You seriously think Ramiro fucking Pena would be a better offensive option than Nunez?

      A little too much 4/20 perhaps?

      • jjyank

        No way something as harmless as weed will do that to him. Gotta be the hard stuff.

        • Whats left of gardners war

          Pena hit a game winning hr and has hit the ball a lot harder since he left.

          • Havok9120

            0_o

          • jjyank

            He’s had 25 plate appearances since he left. Twenty five.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      …and Alberto Gonzalez
      …and Erick Almonte
      …and Aurelio Rodriguez.

      We don’t mention Aurelio Rodriguez enough on here. Let’s change this.

      Also, we’re up 3-0 and someone, clearly under a new screen name (which sucks, btw), is lamenting the loss of Ramiro Fucking Pena.

  • nycsportzfan

    Gardner baby! Ya!

  • Havok9120

    I love when Gardner gets a ball in the gap. Nice play by Rasmus to keep that from getting to the wall.

  • Havok9120

    Is the camera angle just that far off or has the large strikezone gotten larger again?

  • Mykey

    I guess batting Francisco makes sense.

    • Mykey

      Batting Francisco second*

    • Havok9120

      I do think it’s pretty nonsensical, but that strike zone was suddenly a lot further inside on that AB.

  • Whats left of gardners war

    What KC take for Tehada he can play all in positions and can still hit.

    • Whats left of gardners war

      Tejada

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Would. Also, period after “Tejada.”

    • jjyank

      …Miguel Tejada? You mean the guy that turns 39 next month and hasn’t been above average since 2009?

      • Whats left of gardners war

        Looked good in WBC hard time getting in the infield at KC

        • jjyank

          I don’t give a crap about the WBC.

          The last 3 years, Tejada posted wRC+’s of 71 (and that was in AAA, mind you), 61, and 88. He’s terrible, he’s old, and he’s a crappy fielder.

  • Dalek Jeter

    YOUK!!!!!!!

  • Eddard

    Just drive in one Youk, that’s all Hiroki, Drob and Mo will need. Just need a little breathing room.

  • nycsportzfan

    If youk k’s again, i’ll freak!

    • Havok9120

      Yeah, because you’ve been approaching this situation quite calmly so far.

      • nycsportzfan

        I’m in a bad mood today.. I have my reasons… I’m more then proud of this team, just annoyed at some other shit..

  • Eddard

    He didn’t need to jump. That was awful by Lawrie.

  • jjyank

    Youk! Finally, some correction against LHP. Even though Lawrie might have helped.

  • trr

    Look, he’s never established himself as a big league SS, capice?
    it ain’t that hard to see

  • Havok9120

    Vernon OWNS this guy. That’s darn impressive.

  • nycsportzfan

    Finally a Righty outside of Wells did something against Burhle.. Lets go yanks! Bust er open!

  • trr

    So far, not much from the BJ’s huh

    (that’s blue jays)

    • jjyank

      Liar.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I feel very bad for people underwhelmed by BJ’s.

        • jjyank

          It depends. I’ve had some out-of-this-world BJs, and I’ve had some that I had to stop halfway through.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Teeth issues?

            • jjyank

              Yes, unfortunately. Those girls don’t get breakfast the next morning.

              • vicki

                it may be strategy. do it bad the first time they don’t ask you to do it again.

  • nycsportzfan

    Shit, Cervelli! At least we scored a couple, but man, i would of liked a nice crooked number.. Cervelli could of got us one more with a out, i hate when they don’t get those one…

    • Troll

      *Would’ve

      *Could’ve

      You SHOULD’VE know that!

      • Troll

        known*

    • Dalek Jeter

      Oh god. I’m cringing. Why did the education system fail you so badly in relation to grammar.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Does Laz have somewhere to go? Are you kidding me with the strikes he’s calling for Buehrle?

    • Havok9120

      Kuroda is getting the outside call too. Kuroda hasn’t really tested that inside call though.

      • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

        Only reason ive said something now is because Kuroda got ONE outside call……and just now a second actually.

  • Havok9120

    Poor Nix. What little good contact he makes gets robbed half the time.

  • Eddard

    When you can lineup CC, Hiroki, and Andy you’ve got one of the best 1-2-3 in the league. Hiroki’s throwing a 1 hitter and the Yanks are on the verge of yet another series win.

    • Dalek Jeter

      They’re good, but I think I’d take

      Strasburg, Gio, Zimmerman

      over everybody.

  • Havok9120

    Oh, crap. Youk.

    • Mykey

      Any idea what could be going on? I was in the other room.

      • Havok9120

        Nah. No idea. He could have pulled something running/sliding during the previous inning I guess and only noticed it while he was out playing defense the next inning. Really weird.

  • Whats left of gardners war

    Youlk hurt?

  • Whats left of gardners war

    Melky off the juice looks like the guy we had in 2009

    • FEED.ME.MORE!

      More like the 2010 Braves version. 2009 wasn’t great, but he wasn’t this shitty looking.

  • Whats left of gardners war

    Joey bats wasnt that the guy in goodfellows they cut up and buried?

    • FEED.ME.MORE!

      Billy Bats.

      GET CHA SHINE BOX!

    • Dalek Jeter

      There is just so much wrong with this post.

      • Whats left of gardners war

        4-20 4-20

        • jjyank

          And you’re a lightweight, apparently.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Yes, it’s 4/20, that’s not an excuse to smoke so much that people question your mental capacity. And I’m speaking smoker to smoker here.

          Goofellows. If I could I’d revoke your internet privileges.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            I don’t think I want to watch “Goofellows.” Doesn’t seem like my thing.

      • vicki

        once you reach for the red pen it’ll never end. there’s all kinds of laughable in this thread today.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      It’s a nice day outside. Why don’t we hand you and nycsportzfan a bouncy ball and you go play.

  • Havok9120

    Poor little girl.

    SHE DEMANDS MOAR RUNZ.

  • Havok9120

    That was a heck of a play by all involved.

    Sad about that foot though.

  • jjyank

    Kuroda single handedly putting all the pitching categories out of reach for my fantasy opponent this week. I love it.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      *raises glass*

  • Havok9120

    Jeez Overbay.

    These former Jays are having fun this weekend.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    So what exactly happened with Youkilis? Was out at brunch and forgot there was a game.

    • The Real Greg

      Nobody knows. I thought it was for defensive purposes.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Greg, we need you to inject some life into this game thread. This thing is just sad.

        • jjyank

          You know it’s sad when we’re asking Greg to make it not as sad.

          • The Real Greg

            I was busy watching Doctor Who.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              I just had myself a wonderful sauteed greens, garlic, and romano cheese pizza for brunch. Divine.

              Classic or new Doctor Who?

              • The Real Greg

                The newest episode. Streamed it online with BBC 1.
                Don’t watch it on BBC America. Commercials get in the way.

                Although I am a fan of both classic and new.

                Little bit controversial but my favorite doctor is Sylvester McCoy.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  You didn’t answer “Tom Baker.”

                  • The Real Greg

                    I love Tom Baker too.

                    It’s just that I love when the Doctor is dark and manipulative.

                    In his last two series, that was McCoy to a tee.
                    The Chessmaster.

            • Havok9120

              That’s the best comeback you’ve ever had on this site.

              I love you Greg.

              • Havok9120

                Of course the possibility that it ISN’T just a comeback only strikes me after I wrote that, but try not to ruin my happiness.

        • Troll

          It’s a Saturday. Get a life, old man. Find a hobby.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            This is the moment where I simply look back and ask what you’re doing here, young man of many hobbies.

            • Troll

              The Troll is everywhere and nowhere. The Troll does not succumb to humanly hobbies. The Troll lives between reality and fantasy where Saturdays are not a measure of time, but merely a speck on the string of eternity.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                No one gives a shit. NEXT!

                • Troll

                  Based upon the fact that you responded, I’d say that you care quite a bit. You may want to consider a social life that’s removed from the confines of online baseball threads . . .

                  • Robinson Tilapia

                    Someone’s got to take out the trash before it smells up the place even more. Might as well be me.

                    • Troll

                      Proving once again how deeply you care. So much so, that you’re making deliberate attempts to be cute and clever. That’s sad, old man. Real sad.

                  • Pinstripe Blue

                    That will never happen. In real life Tilapia’s tough guy approach “NEXT” B.S. gets him knocked on his ass.

                    So he comes on here and acts tough. LMAO

                    • Troll

                      Exactly. Even on a baseball thread you can sense the infinite bullsh*t that he spits. He’s a loser. That’s all there is to it. The man desperately needs a vacation from this site . . .

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      Ah, the classic internet “YOU’D NEVER SAY DAT IN DAH REAL LIFE” line.

                      This isn’t real life. Let’s turn THAT into a Queen lyric.

                    • Robinson Tilapia

                      Do you two get to fuck now?

                    • Troll

                      Oh COOL! He knows who Freddie Mercury was! So hip. He’s the real cat’s nipples, this one.

                  • DC

                    Yet the same online baseball thread encompasses your life…

                    • jjyank

                      These two are really embarrassing themselves.

                    • Troll

                      Hahaha. Then there’s this guy, JJYank, the one dude that actually makes Tilapia seem interesting. Wait, uh oh, aren’t you the one that pretends he’s some sort of government operative? Well I better shut my mouth then . . .

                    • jjyank

                      lol

                • Pinstripe Blue

                  After you and JJ-Jerkoff wash the sheets from you last porno escapade then maybe you can come with the innuendo.

  • Havok9120

    Another nice play from those two.

  • The Real Greg

    Lawrie had a chance at Overbay

  • The Real Greg

    Doesn’t that always seem to happen more times than it should?

    Infield is drawn in and the batter hits the ball right to an infielder.

  • Whats left of gardners war

    Frankie sucking again.

  • Pat D

    So I take it the Yankees are losing from this thread. Am I right?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      26-0, Jays.

    • jjyank

      One would think, yeah.

    • Havok9120

      Welcome to the party.

  • Eddard

    A rested Drob and Mo should be able to close this one out. The best thing about Andy, CC and Kuroda is that they usually always go 7 innings, bypassing the weakest part of the ballclub.

  • Havok9120

    “Tightness in his lower back.”

    Damn you AstroTurf.

  • Whats left of gardners war

    Youlklis back tightness
    Ot oh

  • Whats left of gardners war

    Tampa bay after this another shit field.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    HIROK

  • Mykey

    Hiroki is so God damn good.

  • Whats left of gardners war

    Drob got to get us out of this

  • Robinson Tilapia

    My son just woke up, which is good, since I actually thought he was posting as “Whats left of gardners war.”

  • andy e

    i think it was the 4th or 5th innning, john sterling compared the jays defense to prostate cancer. ‘the silent killer’

    • Havok9120

      Yep. Heard about that.

      • The Real Greg

        The only way this would be fine is if he was doing a promo for the prevention of prostate cancer and then moved on to the Blue Jays defense.

        • JonS

          Even then that’s objectionable. WTF is wrong with Sterling?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      NO HE DID NOT. YOU HAVE TO BE LYING.

      • Havok9120

        He definitely did according to Pinstriped Bible’s regulars.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I bet every listener over 75 was laughing.

      • Dalek Jeter

        He absolutely did.

  • JonS

    I love the shot of Girardi and Rothschild shaking their heads after that walk.

    • Havok9120

      It needs to be .gif’d.

  • SeventhAce

    Only two fields in the MLB still use fucking astro-turf, get rid of that shit already.

    I remember going to a park with astro turf and did fielding drills, the following day my legs and back felt more like crap than usual.

    Heck, majority of baseball players can tell you that playing on astro turf sucks.

    Not to mention how astro turf gives the baseball a weird bounce.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      This.

    • JonS

      FieldTurf != AstroTurf

      • JonS

        I meant Grass 3D.

  • Havok9120

    Verdammt.

  • Karl Krawfid

    bounce the fuckin ball man damn.

  • jjyank

    ….D-Rob….

  • Mykey

    C’mon D-Rob. Don’t blow this.

  • The Real Greg

    Get the ball down

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    God dammit.

  • Mykey

    Oh for shit sake.

  • Anthony

    Oh, come on.

  • Karl Krawfid

    OMG why not throw the god damn curve ball man.

  • vicki

    hiroki derserves better.

  • Mykey

    Poor Kuroda. Pitched a gem and gets nothing.

    • King George

      Still unsure why he was removed.

      • The Real Greg

        108 pitches in a start after throwing a complete game shutout.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          On an extra day’s rest. He was fine.

          • Havok9120

            There’s still nothing inherently wrong about pulling him in that situation though when the last two guys in the pen are about as lockdown as relief pitching gets. It can be reasonably argued either way.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

              I don’t think it was a horrible decision. Just an unnecessary decision.

  • The Real Greg

    They are going to regret losing this game if they do.

    This is the type of game the Yankees need to win consistently with all these injuries.

  • fabricio

    wow good job robertson fucking idiot

  • Whats left of gardners war

    Wow war fail yet again

  • jjyank

    Fucking damn it Robertson.

  • JonS

    Montgomery will soon make sure Robertson is never a closer in NY.

    • DC

      Suuuuure.

  • Eddard

    Absolutely atrocious job by Robertson. Mo should have been in this ballgame for Melky.

  • Karl Krawfid

    Get him out of the game Joe!

    • The Real Greg

      And use a 40 year old pitcher for 4 outs in April.

      Smart.

      • Karl Krawfid

        Because Mo is the only guy in the pen.

        Get the fuck out of here.

        • The Real Greg

          You trust anybody else?

      • Mykey

        What about that Joba fellow?

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Well that sucked.

  • Havok9120

    Double verdammt.

    More bourbon will be needed.

    And what the heck is Diaz using to measure the strike zone? An accordion?

  • Leg-End

    Crying out for the curve in the dirt.

  • Matt

    Girardi just gave away a game that was pretty much over.

    Kuroda is throwing a shut out and in complete control. They can barely even put the ball in play, let alone hit it out of the infield.

    So let’s take him out the second he gives up a cheap ground ball single off a guy’s glove.

    I don’t care who the relief pitcher is. Kuroda is shutting them out and in complete control of the game. You don’t give a team hope by bringing in a lesser pitcher.

    • The Real Greg

      He threw 108 pitches in a start after throwing a complete game shutout. That’s why he took him out.

      • Matt

        That is nonsense and you know it. He had shown no signs of tiring and most of those 108 pitches were under absolutely no pressure.

        Don’t try to rationalize what was an obviously stupid decision. It doesn’t make you look smart to “see the other perspective” when the other perspective is nonsense.

        • The Real Greg

          It’s logical. That’s all that matters.

          • Matt

            No, it’s not. It was blind adherence to a philosophy with no consideration for the game situation.

            Stop before you make yourself look dumber than you already have.

            • DC

              He’s not the one looking irrational.

              • Matt

                Oh really? So it’s rational to take out a guy who is cruising and showing no signs of fatigue just because he allowed one baserunner with a 3 run lead?

                You’re making this unbelievably easy for me.

                • DC

                  Yes, we’re all making it easy for you to look like a horse’s ass.

                  • Matt

                    Oh, really?

                    So attacking me personally is defeating my argument? Nice try.

                    • DC

                      And you haven’t personally attacked others while try to make your point?

                    • Havok9120

                      *cue Twilight Zone music*

            • Havok9120

              Yes, because your measured, rational objectivity and calmness in the face of a bad situation has given us all great respect for your intelligence.

        • Havok9120

          …..it ISN’T nonsense. Just because you disagree with taking a longer view doesn’t mean the longer view is stupid.

          • Matt

            It most definitely is. He was not tired. It doesn’t matter if his pitch count was 108. He had barely been under pressure. That 108 might have been the equivalent of 85 or 90 pitches under normal circumstances.

            It isn’t taking long view when you needlessly make a move that puts the game at risk.

            • Havok9120

              You have absolutely no reliable way of knowing if he was tired or not. Even going by velocity (which I wasn’t watching) wouldn’t give you an accurate read on that. Nor does it matter. The entire team is relying on an older rotation staying healthy and reliable for the foreseeable future. You’ve got one of the half dozen or so most reliable relief pitchers in baseball as your setup man. There’s nothing wrong with using him.

            • The Real Greg

              His last start was a complete game shutout.

              Go ahead and blow out his arm in April.

              • Matt

                Aren’t you funny. Blow out his arm? His pitch count was 108, not 130. He also had an extra day of rest inbetween starts.

                • The Real Greg

                  He’s also 38 years old.

                  • Matt

                    Not making you look good when you have to constantly shift your rationale in the face of the facts.

                    • Havok9120

                      You’ve yet to deploy a single “fact” in your argument. It’s a ton of shouting, overblown outrage, claims that we’re personally attacking you, and the occasional bit of anecdotal evidence.

                      So basically your usual schtick.

              • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

                He had an extra day of rest. His arm was in no danger of being blown out.

                • The Real Greg

                  He’s 38 years old. Are you willing to risk it when you had a guy in the pen that had not given up a run all year?

                  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

                    Then why let Hirok even start the inning?

                    Why did that dumbass Girardi risk Hirok pitching to 2 extra batters when he had a guy in the pen who hadn’t given up a run all year!!!!??

                    You can’t have it both ways.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Yes, it’s completely irrational to take out a 38 year old pitcher, in his fourth or fifth start of the year, to take a guy out at 108 pitches. 5 days after he through a complete game. When you have one of the best set up men in baseball. And there are 27-30 more starts we need Kuroda to go deep into the game this season. Completely irrational. No rational there. At all.

  • Karl Krawfid

    GET HIM OUT OF THE GAME

  • Whats left of gardners war

    His curve ball been shit since he got hurt last year he dosent bend the mid section enough.

  • Whats left of gardners war

    27 pitches and no one up

  • King George

    Robertson. Wow.

  • Eddard

    Girardi is checking his chart and not moving a muscle. Mo should have been in this game 3 batters ago.

  • TomH

    Bring in Shawn!

  • Eddard

    Last year Hiroki was robbed of win after win since they never scored any runs for him. This year he put them in prime position to win and Robertson blew it. Another W stolen from Hiroki.

  • Havok9120

    Alright boys. With the bats now.

  • The Real Greg

    This has nothing to do with rational decisions or not. All this comes down to is a player doing their job. And Robertson failed in his job. When can we start blaming the players.

    • Matt

      Just stop already. Kuroda was throwing a shutout. He gave up a ground ball off a guy’s glove. There was no reason to even risk it there and Girardi paid the price for overmanaging.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      Robertson failed. So did Girardi.

  • TomH

    The hapless Nunez

  • TomH

    The hapless Nix.

  • The Real Greg

    And by the way, I looked up at the section when Girardi made the change in the first place. No complaints WHAT SO EVER. Can’e play revisionist history.

    • JonS

      Of course people can, that’s the point of being a fan. :)

  • Leg-End

    Nunez needs to start hitting else his usefulness is next to nothing.

  • Karl Krawfid

    Yankees blew a bases loaded chance against AZ.

    One here.

    Nothing new.

  • TomH

    It would be a body-blow to morale for the Yankees to blow this game.

    • The Real Greg

      Duh.

  • Eddard

    Why go to Mo and give yourself another shot with the heart of your order? I just don’t understand this philosophy. I’d rather have Joba pitching with the lead trying to close.

    • Mykey

      Once again, I’m forced to ask, what?

  • Whats left of gardners war

    You guys ready for Joba to give this game away?

    • Karl Krawfid

      D-Rob already did that.

  • Mykey

    Joba, throwin’ fire!

  • Leg-End

    98 MPH.

  • Eddard

    Joba’s pining to get that 8th inning role. If he’s going to throw 98 he just might get it. Robertson was awful.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      That decision will most likely be made based on one game in April.

  • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

    Did Joba forget what year it is?

    Dealing heat!

    • Karl Krawfid

      He was hitting 100 Before he had Tommy Johns.

  • Winter

    Gameday said Joba hit 98 with that fastball. Is that possibly true?

    • Mykey

      That’s what YES says as well.

    • Havok9120

      YES gun has him up there. This is looking vintage.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    WTF!!???!!!

    • Havok9120

      This time I’m right with you.

    • The Real Greg

      You expected different with Logan up in the pen?

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        Silly me, expecting the manager to watch the game.

  • Winter

    I guess it’s not just te offense that thinks it’s 2007.

  • Eddard

    He did not just take out Joba to play matchups in a tie game. IS GIRARDI WATCHING THE GAME!!!!!!!!

  • Matt

    Joba is consistently 97-98 and overpowering the hitters.

    But let’s take him out just because a lefty is coming to the plate! It’s not like we might need this guy to throw up a few zeroes before our offense can break through in a tie game!

    • Anthony

      Yea.. definitely not a good call

  • Karl Krawfid

    He fuck you again Joe. Jesus Christ.

    Take out the good pitchers, bring in the trash.

    Got it.

    • The Real Greg

      Logan: 1.93 ERA this year. That’s not trash

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        Lefties hitting 333/333/583 against him this year.
        Feel free to cherry pick stats though.

        Joba looked great. No reason to take him out there.

        • The Real Greg

          I do agree that this is a bit more tenuous than taking out Kuroda at 108 pitches.

          But this is what he’s done for the past 4 years.

          • Matt

            Making the same mistakes repeatedly does not change the fact that they are mistakes.

        • Chilango

          +1000

        • vicki

          and don’t the binders say that joba’s even more effective against lefties than righties?

  • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

    The binder strikes again!

  • ClusterDuck

    Don’t take Joba out here.

  • Chilango

    Juat got back. Let me guess. Since Joba jus pitched and Boonie’s coming in, I’m assuming Houdini gave up the runs

    • Mykey

      Yessir.

  • Mykey

    Joba would have struck him out in 3 pitches hitting 100 and then launched a firecracker out of his crotch. FACT.

    • Dalek Jeter

      FALLACY!!!!

      sorry Greg

      • Mykey

        I have irrefutable evidence that proves this true that I conveniently choose not to share.

  • Eddard

    The Yanks one shot will be this next inning with the heart of the order. Hafner, Cano, Overbay, Wells. That’s our shot because Joe burned through Joba and Logan. I like Phelps but we saw what he did vs the Os in extras. It’s a thin bullpen as it is and Joe ran through these guys like he’s got an unlimited supply.

    • The Real Greg

      They still have Warren.

      • Dalek Jeter

        I missed the convo above, how was the Doctor Who episode?

        • The Real Greg

          It was pretty good.

          Pacing was a bit off, but it was a solid plot. Ending might be a bit meh depending on your tastes.

          • Dalek Jeter

            I’m a huge fanboy of the new Doctor Who, there have been very few episodes (apart from Season 3 and 10’s regeneration) that I haven’t enjoyed.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Pronk for Francisco please.

    • Leg-End

      Anyone for Francisco please.

    • vicki

      book it.

    • Winter

      Nope, lefty’s pitching. Gotta play by the binder.

  • The Real Greg

    And that’s why the Jays go to the lefty, to block Hafner

    • Havok9120

      That and they have three of them in the ‘pen.

    • Troll

      Damn Greg, your hindsight must be 20/20, huh?

  • TomH

    The hapless Francisco.

    How long does he stay around?

    • Leg-End

      Until someone better lands in the bargain bin or Granderson gets back.

    • Dalek Jeter

      At least the ASB, if he’s not gone by The Deadline, all season.

  • Havok9120

    Lawrie’s been Jekyll and Hyde defensively today.

  • The Real Greg

    One question. I thought DL’ed players could be replaced on the roster. So why does it seem that the Yankees are short players?

    • Winter

      They’re not.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Who is hurt that isn’t DL’d? I’m pretty sure the Yankees have a healthy (albeit limited) 25 man roster.

  • Matt

    By taking out Joba, Girardi not only got himself a worse matchup against Rasmus but also against every other hitter thereafter.

    Keep talking about how Girardi thinks of the big picture. Each of the moves that he keeps making are very short-sighted.

    • The Real Greg

      That’s fine. It’s how he’s managed throughout his tenure.

      If you don’t like it, fire him and get somebody else.

      • Matt

        Self-consistency is a weakness, not a strength. This is not politics. Continuing to make the same mistakes repeatedly is inexcusable.

    • Evan3457

      Exactly how was Logan a worse matchup against Rasmus?

      Rasmus was 0-1 against Joba; Rasmus was 0-5 with 3 K against Logan before that AB.

      Now he’s 0-6 with 4 K’s.

  • The Real Greg

    Jays are going to bunt this.

  • Winter

    So Joba can’t face the lefty, but Boone can face the righty?

    • Mykey

      Yeah, I don’t get it.

      • The Real Greg

        Izturis is a switch batter, I think.

        • Matt

          Which is even more of a reason not to match up with Logan. The amount that you lose from having Logan face all righties or switch hitters afterwards is far greater than the loss (if it all) from having Joba with his fastbal at 98 mph facing the lefty.

          • Havok9120

            Agreed. Especially since his slider looked so good. Having that breaking pitch working so well would’ve gone a long ways toward equalizing the situational anyway.

  • Eddard

    Girardi would rather pitch a position player than use Mo in a tie game on the road. He needs Mo for that save situation, damnit. A save situation that may never come.

    • The Real Greg

      In that situation though a lot of managers do it. Doesn’t make right but condemn one, condemn them all.

  • Whats left of gardners war

    DEATH BY BOONE

  • The Real Greg

    This move is very questionable. His moves have been getting worse and more tenuous since the 8th inning.

    • Troll

      You’re blaming the manager, Greg. DON’T BLAME THE MANAGER! But, you know what I say, condemn on, condemn them all.

      P.S. IT’S NOT GIRARDI’S FAULT!

      • The Real Greg

        I only meant it as related to that particular decision.

        His next two decisions have been meh.

  • Dalek Jeter

    …there has to be a better option then Shawn Kelley.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I’m sorry I doubted you Shawn.

  • TomH

    Oh, no! Kelley! They might as well fly a white flag from the Yankees’ dugout.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Score now please.

  • Havok9120

    Tom, you can breathe now.

    • TomH

      I have to go there tomorrow, and I’m glad they’ve used him twice in two days. Unlikely that Joe will bring him in tomorrow. If so, I’ll have to go find a long lineup for hot dogs.

      • Havok9120

        Lucky dog. I’d kill to see a game live at this point.

        Just bring a lot of filled flasks, just in case.

  • TomH

    Kelley, as I’ve always said: that Great Man.

    • Havok9120

      iet

  • Dalek Jeter

    Pronk for Ichiro PLEASE

  • The Real Greg

    Ironic in that the one decision that I think was an okay decision he got burned but the two subsequent decisions that I thought were tenuous he has been able to get away with.

  • Eddard

    They’re walking a tightrope here. Best score this inning and hand it over to Mo. Knowing Girardi he’ll get Wells on and have Cervelli bunt.

  • TomH

    Wells is rising to the occasion of his return to Toronto.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Do not let Ichiro hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • The Real Greg

      He’s going to bunt.

  • Leg-End

    Bunt now.

  • Anthony

    C’mon lets get a run here and out comes Mo.

  • Anthony

    YES HAHAHAHAHA

  • Eddard

    YES! Girardi surprisingly did not bunt and Frankie came through! NOW you bunt with Ichiro.

    • The Real Greg

      He did and the Blue Jays threw it away

  • Havok9120

    YES.

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  • JonS

    “That cancerous defense”

    • Havok9120

      /Sterling’d

  • Leg-End

    Jays defense is horrendus.

  • Mykey

    Just how we drew it up.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Bad bunt bailed out by bad defense.

    Please don’t squander this gift.

    • Anthony

      Was just thinking that, that bunt was terrible. I thought Wells was going to be out.

      • Havok9120

        Was definitely going to be bang-bang.

  • Eddard

    YES! THANK YOU BLUE JAY DEFENSE! LOL!!!!!!!!!

  • Havok9120

    Bunt double for the lead. Exactly how they drew it up.

  • Matt

    Hey, look at what happens when you don’t needlessly sacrifice an out with a hot hitter, and then when you finally do put the pressure on them by sacrificing in the appropriate situation.

    Funny that as soon as Girardi stopped overmanaging, the team happened to get the job done.

    • Havok9120

      Wait, what?

      Not bunting the catcher, a position generally considered a black hole manned by a player who few would think of as an offensive powerhouse before the season started and then bunting the guy traditionally thought of as a star contact hitter who’s reliable in the clutch, is a sign of less invasive managing? Why, because it worked?

      Just because you don’t like the guy’s style doesn’t mean you need to make it seem like he does everything wrong or is a total moron anymore than Greg needs to defend everything he does because he LIKES his managing style.

  • Dalek Jeter

    YAY GOOD THINGS

  • Chilango

    Some Low A D. Awright.

  • VT Yankee Fan

    That was Arrencibia’s fault.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Don’t love bunting in front of Nix.

    • The Real Greg

      I don’t love it either, but Nunez has been awful batting.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        Unlike Nix?

        • The Real Greg

          That makes no difference. Nix didn’t need to get a hit to drive in a run.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

            And Nunez didn’t need to bunt to move the runner.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      And that’s why.

  • Eddard

    The decision not to bunt Frankie won the ballgame. If he bunts Frankie then it’s Ichiro and Nuney to drive the run in. Girardi redeemed himself.

  • Chilango

    What happened to Youk?

    • Havok9120

      Left the game with tightness in his back. Precautionary; he was right back in the dugout after he came out so it wasn’t THAT big a deal.

    • TomH

      Stiff back. He’s on the bench, watching.

    • vicki

      turf happens.

  • Mykey

    Come on. Not this again, please.

  • Karl Krawfid

    Come on where was that first pitch?

    • Chilango

      Now the zone gets tight. WTF

  • Leg-End

    Be glad to see the back of this umps plate.

  • Chilango

    Robbie and Mo choke on the same day? Has that ever happened before?

    • Havok9120

      Yes. But it hasn’t yet today.

  • Eddard

    That first ball was on the plate, a strike. Laz Diaz should be fired.

  • Dalek Jeter

    I think this is the most negative game thread for a winning game ever.

    • Havok9120

      It certainly ranks on the top 5. Mainly because so much of it came while the game looked to be in hand.

    • Noah Poser

      We all wanted Kuroda to get the win. Especially me because he’s on my fantasy team.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Probably because of the epic bedshitting by DRob. That was a bad one, and it was almost all just a giveaway.
      But we won, so I’m getting drunk.

  • Anthony

    Way to go Mo. Glad we took the first two.

  • Leg-End

    After that double, nothing but vintage Mo. Lovely.

  • Havok9120

    Laz Diaz strikes again to give us the win.

    Sweetness.

  • Whats left of gardners war

    What a game
    Going to be hell without Mo next year

  • Eddard

    Yet another series win, now 4 games over .500. This team is something special, just finding new ways to win each night.