Game 16: Back For More

(Tom Szczerbowski/Getty)

(Tom Szczerbowski/Getty)

The Yankees put a good hurtin’ on the Blue Jays last night, but this is baseball and yesterday’s score doesn’t mean anything. The Jays are desperate to prove they are legit and aren’t going to simply roll over following one blowout loss. These two teams will play each other six times in the next nine days, so this is as good a time as any for Toronto to prove themselves as AL East threats.

As for the Yankees, they just have to continue to weather the injury storm. They’ve done a pretty good job of that lately, winning eight of their last ten games. Here’s the lineup that will face finesse lefty Mark Buehrle…

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. DH Ben Francisco
  3. 2B Robinson Cano
  4. 1B Kevin Youkilis
  5. LF Vernon Wells
  6. C Frankie Cervelli
  7. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  8. SS Eduardo Nunez
  9. 3B Jayson Nix

And on the mound following his complete-game shutout of the Orioles, Hiroki Kuroda.

Apparently it’s snowing in Toronto, so the Rogers Center roof will be closed. This afternoon’s game is scheduled for 1:07pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Drew says:

    What isn’t Boesch starting over Ichiro vs the lefty?

  2. Mike myers says:

    The picture above shows the scientific talent passing from cano to wells. It’s done through microscopic DNA strands found in the palm sweat gland. Nature is amazing

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

      The cellular process of osmosis works exactly the same way.

      Amazing indeed.

  3. Laz says:

    I’m speechless as to why Francisco is in the #2 slot.

  4. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    And of course once again I need to leave in less than five minutes and will miss probably the entire game.

  5. Havok9120 says:

    I love the noon (for me) start time after a night game. SO MUCH BASEBALL.

  6. Havok9120 says:

    Oh, by the way, I’m totally taking credit for last night’s lopsided as my Franco-Prussian War reference clearly spurred the team forward to victory.


    • Winter says:

      Can we pick a different one this time? Maybe Seven Weeks (Austro-Prussian) War or the Second Schleswig War?

      • Havok9120 says:

        My plan was to go for hoping Austro-Prussian but I didn’t want to hope for too much.

        I’ll happily take a Second Silesian War or something similar. Just gimme a win in the name of Prussia.

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

      FOR PONY!

      (Come on, somebody please get the reference.)

  7. Winter says:

    I normally love day games. Why do I hav to be on a plane for this one???

    I mean, I know why, but still.

  8. Havok9120 says:

    Wow. Nice, quick play there Nunez.

    And the news that Cervelli will be getting 80% of the starts for now has made me happy.

    • Eddard says:

      Shoulda been this way to start the season. They’ve finally realized what kind of ballplayer they have in Frankie. I coulda told them 3 years ago.

  9. MeloJeter says:

    What an awful play from BG

  10. Whats left of gardners war says:

    Garnder is a mess this year.

  11. Whats left of gardners war says:

    Wow he just missed lauching that ball.

  12. Dela G says:


  13. Havok9120 says:


  14. Eddard says:

    Wells has done it again! What a pick up.

  15. jjyank says:


  16. Mykey says:

    Awesome. I was afraid Vernon Wells may begin coming back down to earth. Keep it going.

  17. nycsportzfan says:

    Game isn’t on Radio in western mass plus not on TV(unless u have yes).. Was wells HR a bomb?

  18. nycsportzfan says:

    Lets go Hiroki!

  19. SDB says:

    I’m a bit disappointed that Sterling’s shortened his call for Wells to just “The Bronx is Vernon.”

    No more “Wells rings the bells”, apparently. I feel so… deprived.

    • Now Batting says:

      The sole reason I bought MLB TV when I was out of market was because I couldn’t take listening to John Sterling anymore.

  20. Havok9120 says:

    Thanks ump.

  21. Mykey says:

    Haha oh my, what a terrible call.

  22. Eddard says:

    Not even close. Thank you, Laz Diaz. LOL!

  23. Roadgeek Adam says:

    Laz Failaz strikes again.

  24. Whats left of gardners war says:

    What pitch is hirok trying to throw that going that high?
    Ephous pitch?

  25. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    So I just showed up. What’s up with the call?

  26. trr says:

    where’s eddard

  27. nycsportzfan says:

    jesus, when did burehle become nolan ryan? How many K’s the guy got? Everytime i look up dudes are in 2strike counts.. The guy throws like 75mph, lets rock this toolbag!

  28. Long-Past-His-Day-Rod says:

    Nuney must’ve been afraid of Laz Diaz’ strike zone swinging at that pitch.

  29. Havok9120 says:

    Gardner with the hand armor.

  30. nycsportzfan says:

    Why is Ben freaking Francisco hitting 2nd? The guy sucks!

  31. Whats left of gardners war says:

    Francisco didnt want gardner to beat stewart and wells Nice first pitch swinging asshole
    Cant wait to get grandy back.

  32. nycsportzfan says:

    Can we please get Melky Mesa up here, becuase i can’t stomach Ben Fracisco…

    • Whats left of gardners war says:

      When does musty come off the dl. Havent heard shit about the guy since st.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      Better yet, find someone who can actually hit LHP.

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      Isn’t Mesa striking out like every other AB in AAA right now?

      • nycsportzfan says:

        no, hes actually not k’ing lately… I think hes only k’d like 3times in his last 19ab’s..

        • Dalek Jeter says:

          And his K% is still in the mid 30s…think about that. Think about how much he was striking out at the beginning of the season. You’re complaining about guys K’ing against Buehrle, at least they’re putting up decent ABs. Mesa would be three pitches and straight back to the dugout.

        • jjyank says:

          He went 3 games without a strikeout, and his K% is STILL too high.

        • Havok9120 says:

          There’s no real reason to think he’s gotten enough of a handle on the Ks to be even a semi-effective MLB player. Not yet anyway.

      • jjyank says:


        Why do so many people assume he will be something other than terrible at the MLB level? I don’t like Francisco either, but Mesa ain’t no savior.

        • nycsportzfan says:

          who the hell said hes a savior??lol Its worth trying the gamble, as Francisco is terrible is all.. Savior.lol

          • jjyank says:


            Just tell me that you do realize that there is a very real possibility that Mesa would be worse than Francisco. Because there is. And then if that happens, the team loses some OF depth because Francisco is gone.

  33. nycsportzfan says:

    Kuroda is dominating this bum team! I love it!

  34. nycsportzfan says:

    I hope Burhle dosen’t K anyone else, hes all ready got 4k’s.. Thats enough for him..

  35. nycsportzfan says:

    Youk is stinking lately.. Its time for him to pick it up again.. We need him against lefties.. Holy crap, he struck out again against burhle!!!lol

  36. Eddard says:

    Not even fucking close. God these umps are bad.

  37. Havok9120 says:

    Man. At least he’s using the same zone for both.

  38. nycsportzfan says:

    jesus, stop striking out against this guy! Whats he gonna have 15ks by the time this ones over? Its mark burhle, at least hit the ball!

    • Eddard says:

      It doesn’t help that Laz Diaz is calling balls 6 inches off the plate as strikes. That curve to Cervelli wasn’t even close. Kuroda’s strikeout of Arencibia was just as bad a call.

  39. Mykey says:

    Go home, Laz. You’re drunk.

  40. Dalek Jeter says:

    Blue Jays are doing their best impression of the 2005 Yankees.

  41. Whats left of gardners war says:

    Its one thing to make a bad call but on 3-2 counts and game turning points
    This guy should be fired.

  42. trr says:

    we need a SS
    Nunez ain’t gonna cut it

  43. Whats left of gardners war says:

    Dais changed that whole inning

  44. nycsportzfan says:

    we should of started a all lefty team and wells vs these guys. Are righties are drunk..

  45. nycsportzfan says:

    Fucking Nunez! Is the dude ever gonna get a hit this yr again?

  46. trr says:

    I’m not one who usually goes in for Ump bashing, but this guy behind the plate is way off. yes, it’s affecting both teams, but’s gonna throw off everyone’s approach at the plate.

    • Havok9120 says:

      Laz Diaz is pretty well known for this nonsense.

      • nycsportzfan says:

        maybe dude has the under? How can u possibly be this bad and be a ump in a high school game let alone majors? No ones gonna say anything about it, so it’d be pretty easy to get away with.. Just saying, hes pretty bad..

  47. Dalek Jeter says:

    I’ve never seen so much whining during a game we were winning. Shit I’ll call the wambulance for you guys, or should I just get you a burger to go with your french cries, maybe some cheese with your whine

    #puns work better in real life.

  48. nycsportzfan says:

    Jesus, our righties are 0-9 with a shit load of K’s not including Wells..

  49. Eddard says:

    I love how people are already abandoning Nuney after a large sample size of 35. This is what I was talking about with these sabermetrics folks, they’ll use small samples when it fits their narrative. And Nuney came back from getting hit in the wrist. I thought wrist injuries took longer to come back fully from, I guess that doesn’t apply to Nuney.

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      To be fair, I’m much more willing to think Nunie will bounce back but using the same SSS I’m announcing Ichiro done.

      • jjyank says:

        Nah. You don’t need SSS to make the Ichiro argument. It’s the people that think he can still be good that are using SSS.

      • Havok9120 says:

        We can’t reasonably expect logical consistency from Eddard. Anterograde amnesia is a bummer that way.

      • nycsportzfan says:

        At least Ichiros avg is rising by the minute.. Hes hit in like 10 of 16 games or something.. Hes got 3hits, 2doubles since yesterday.. I’d put my money on Ichiro, seeing ho he just hit 323BA wit us less then a yr ago, and did some damage in the postseason when no one else was outside of Ibanez as well…

        • Eddard says:

          I seem to remember us only getting 1 run off Verlander in game 3 of the alcs. I wonder who drove in that run and provided our only offense of the game.

        • jjyank says:

          He had a good 6 weeks in 2012. He had a bad 2011, a bad ~4 months in 2012, and so far a bad 2013. I think I know what the likely outlier here is.

        • Dalek Jeter says:

          Ichiro’s wRC+ the last two seasons: 65.5
          Nunez in that time: 90.5
          Gardner’s in that time: 104.5

          Other things to take into account: Nunez is playing short, an offensively weak postition, Gardner and Nunez are in/going into prime, Ichiro is way WAY past his. Let’s be real here.

          • nycsportzfan says:

            who gives a shit what positon hes playing.. Short stop stopped being considered not a offensive positon like 15yrs ago dude..

            • Dalek Jeter says:

              Yeah, that’s why the average wRC+ for SS last season was 86, while the ML average is 100. But let’s continue anecdotal evidence. Since A-Rod, Tulo, Jeter, and Ripkin exist(ed) every SS should be an offensive powerhouse.

            • Havok9120 says:

              That’s….completely wrong.

            • vicki says:

              90s and aughts were a golden age for shortstops. if you’re too young to remember baseball before that time, and you think life will be like that going forward, you need to read your history, son.

  50. Whats left of gardners war says:

    We have no one to replace nunez
    This is where keeping pena would have been a good idea

    • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod says:

      You seriously think Ramiro fucking Pena would be a better offensive option than Nunez?

      A little too much 4/20 perhaps?

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      …and Alberto Gonzalez
      …and Erick Almonte
      …and Aurelio Rodriguez.

      We don’t mention Aurelio Rodriguez enough on here. Let’s change this.

      Also, we’re up 3-0 and someone, clearly under a new screen name (which sucks, btw), is lamenting the loss of Ramiro Fucking Pena.

  51. nycsportzfan says:

    Gardner baby! Ya!

  52. Havok9120 says:

    I love when Gardner gets a ball in the gap. Nice play by Rasmus to keep that from getting to the wall.

  53. Havok9120 says:

    Is the camera angle just that far off or has the large strikezone gotten larger again?

  54. Mykey says:

    I guess batting Francisco makes sense.

  55. Whats left of gardners war says:

    What KC take for Tehada he can play all in positions and can still hit.

  56. Dalek Jeter says:


  57. Eddard says:

    Just drive in one Youk, that’s all Hiroki, Drob and Mo will need. Just need a little breathing room.

  58. nycsportzfan says:

    If youk k’s again, i’ll freak!

  59. Eddard says:

    He didn’t need to jump. That was awful by Lawrie.

  60. jjyank says:

    Youk! Finally, some correction against LHP. Even though Lawrie might have helped.

  61. trr says:

    Look, he’s never established himself as a big league SS, capice?
    it ain’t that hard to see

  62. Havok9120 says:

    Vernon OWNS this guy. That’s darn impressive.

  63. nycsportzfan says:

    Finally a Righty outside of Wells did something against Burhle.. Lets go yanks! Bust er open!

  64. trr says:

    So far, not much from the BJ’s huh

    (that’s blue jays)

  65. nycsportzfan says:

    Shit, Cervelli! At least we scored a couple, but man, i would of liked a nice crooked number.. Cervelli could of got us one more with a out, i hate when they don’t get those one…

  66. Cuso says:

    Does Laz have somewhere to go? Are you kidding me with the strikes he’s calling for Buehrle?

  67. Havok9120 says:

    Poor Nix. What little good contact he makes gets robbed half the time.

  68. Eddard says:

    When you can lineup CC, Hiroki, and Andy you’ve got one of the best 1-2-3 in the league. Hiroki’s throwing a 1 hitter and the Yanks are on the verge of yet another series win.

  69. Havok9120 says:

    Oh, crap. Youk.

    • Mykey says:

      Any idea what could be going on? I was in the other room.

      • Havok9120 says:

        Nah. No idea. He could have pulled something running/sliding during the previous inning I guess and only noticed it while he was out playing defense the next inning. Really weird.

  70. Whats left of gardners war says:

    Youlk hurt?

  71. Whats left of gardners war says:

    Melky off the juice looks like the guy we had in 2009

  72. Whats left of gardners war says:

    Joey bats wasnt that the guy in goodfellows they cut up and buried?

  73. Havok9120 says:

    Poor little girl.


  74. Havok9120 says:

    That was a heck of a play by all involved.

    Sad about that foot though.

  75. jjyank says:

    Kuroda single handedly putting all the pitching categories out of reach for my fantasy opponent this week. I love it.

  76. Havok9120 says:

    Jeez Overbay.

    These former Jays are having fun this weekend.

  77. Robinson Tilapia says:

    So what exactly happened with Youkilis? Was out at brunch and forgot there was a game.

    • The Real Greg says:

      Nobody knows. I thought it was for defensive purposes.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        Greg, we need you to inject some life into this game thread. This thing is just sad.

        • jjyank says:

          You know it’s sad when we’re asking Greg to make it not as sad.

          • The Real Greg says:

            I was busy watching Doctor Who.

            • Robinson Tilapia says:

              I just had myself a wonderful sauteed greens, garlic, and romano cheese pizza for brunch. Divine.

              Classic or new Doctor Who?

              • The Real Greg says:

                The newest episode. Streamed it online with BBC 1.
                Don’t watch it on BBC America. Commercials get in the way.

                Although I am a fan of both classic and new.

                Little bit controversial but my favorite doctor is Sylvester McCoy.

            • Havok9120 says:

              That’s the best comeback you’ve ever had on this site.

              I love you Greg.

              • Havok9120 says:

                Of course the possibility that it ISN’T just a comeback only strikes me after I wrote that, but try not to ruin my happiness.

        • Troll says:

          It’s a Saturday. Get a life, old man. Find a hobby.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            This is the moment where I simply look back and ask what you’re doing here, young man of many hobbies.

            • Troll says:

              The Troll is everywhere and nowhere. The Troll does not succumb to humanly hobbies. The Troll lives between reality and fantasy where Saturdays are not a measure of time, but merely a speck on the string of eternity.

              • Robinson Tilapia says:

                No one gives a shit. NEXT!

                • Troll says:

                  Based upon the fact that you responded, I’d say that you care quite a bit. You may want to consider a social life that’s removed from the confines of online baseball threads . . .

                  • Robinson Tilapia says:

                    Someone’s got to take out the trash before it smells up the place even more. Might as well be me.

                    • Troll says:

                      Proving once again how deeply you care. So much so, that you’re making deliberate attempts to be cute and clever. That’s sad, old man. Real sad.

                  • Pinstripe Blue says:

                    That will never happen. In real life Tilapia’s tough guy approach “NEXT” B.S. gets him knocked on his ass.

                    So he comes on here and acts tough. LMAO

                    • Troll says:

                      Exactly. Even on a baseball thread you can sense the infinite bullsh*t that he spits. He’s a loser. That’s all there is to it. The man desperately needs a vacation from this site . . .

                    • Robinson Tilapia says:

                      Ah, the classic internet “YOU’D NEVER SAY DAT IN DAH REAL LIFE” line.

                      This isn’t real life. Let’s turn THAT into a Queen lyric.

                    • Robinson Tilapia says:

                      Do you two get to fuck now?

                    • Troll says:

                      Oh COOL! He knows who Freddie Mercury was! So hip. He’s the real cat’s nipples, this one.

                  • DC says:

                    Yet the same online baseball thread encompasses your life…

                    • jjyank says:

                      These two are really embarrassing themselves.

                    • Troll says:

                      Hahaha. Then there’s this guy, JJYank, the one dude that actually makes Tilapia seem interesting. Wait, uh oh, aren’t you the one that pretends he’s some sort of government operative? Well I better shut my mouth then . . .

                    • jjyank says:


                • Pinstripe Blue says:

                  After you and JJ-Jerkoff wash the sheets from you last porno escapade then maybe you can come with the innuendo.

  78. Havok9120 says:

    Another nice play from those two.

  79. The Real Greg says:

    Lawrie had a chance at Overbay

  80. The Real Greg says:

    Doesn’t that always seem to happen more times than it should?

    Infield is drawn in and the batter hits the ball right to an infielder.

  81. Whats left of gardners war says:

    Frankie sucking again.

  82. Pat D says:

    So I take it the Yankees are losing from this thread. Am I right?

  83. Eddard says:

    A rested Drob and Mo should be able to close this one out. The best thing about Andy, CC and Kuroda is that they usually always go 7 innings, bypassing the weakest part of the ballclub.

  84. Havok9120 says:

    “Tightness in his lower back.”

    Damn you AstroTurf.

  85. Whats left of gardners war says:

    Youlklis back tightness
    Ot oh

  86. Whats left of gardners war says:

    Tampa bay after this another shit field.

  87. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:


  88. Mykey says:

    Hiroki is so God damn good.

  89. Whats left of gardners war says:

    Drob got to get us out of this

  90. Robinson Tilapia says:

    My son just woke up, which is good, since I actually thought he was posting as “Whats left of gardners war.”

  91. andy e says:

    i think it was the 4th or 5th innning, john sterling compared the jays defense to prostate cancer. ‘the silent killer’

  92. JonS says:

    I love the shot of Girardi and Rothschild shaking their heads after that walk.

  93. SeventhAce says:

    Only two fields in the MLB still use fucking astro-turf, get rid of that shit already.

    I remember going to a park with astro turf and did fielding drills, the following day my legs and back felt more like crap than usual.

    Heck, majority of baseball players can tell you that playing on astro turf sucks.

    Not to mention how astro turf gives the baseball a weird bounce.

  94. Havok9120 says:


  95. Karl Krawfid says:

    bounce the fuckin ball man damn.

  96. jjyank says:


  97. Mykey says:

    C’mon D-Rob. Don’t blow this.

  98. The Real Greg says:

    Get the ball down

  99. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    God dammit.

  100. Mykey says:

    Oh for shit sake.

  101. Anthony says:

    Oh, come on.

  102. Karl Krawfid says:

    OMG why not throw the god damn curve ball man.

  103. vicki says:

    hiroki derserves better.

  104. Mykey says:

    Poor Kuroda. Pitched a gem and gets nothing.

  105. The Real Greg says:

    They are going to regret losing this game if they do.

    This is the type of game the Yankees need to win consistently with all these injuries.

  106. fabricio says:

    wow good job robertson fucking idiot

  107. Whats left of gardners war says:

    Wow war fail yet again

  108. jjyank says:

    Fucking damn it Robertson.

  109. JonS says:

    Montgomery will soon make sure Robertson is never a closer in NY.

  110. Eddard says:

    Absolutely atrocious job by Robertson. Mo should have been in this ballgame for Melky.

  111. Karl Krawfid says:

    Get him out of the game Joe!

  112. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Well that sucked.

  113. Havok9120 says:

    Double verdammt.

    More bourbon will be needed.

    And what the heck is Diaz using to measure the strike zone? An accordion?

  114. Leg-End says:

    Crying out for the curve in the dirt.

  115. Matt says:

    Girardi just gave away a game that was pretty much over.

    Kuroda is throwing a shut out and in complete control. They can barely even put the ball in play, let alone hit it out of the infield.

    So let’s take him out the second he gives up a cheap ground ball single off a guy’s glove.

    I don’t care who the relief pitcher is. Kuroda is shutting them out and in complete control of the game. You don’t give a team hope by bringing in a lesser pitcher.

    • The Real Greg says:

      He threw 108 pitches in a start after throwing a complete game shutout. That’s why he took him out.

      • Matt says:

        That is nonsense and you know it. He had shown no signs of tiring and most of those 108 pitches were under absolutely no pressure.

        Don’t try to rationalize what was an obviously stupid decision. It doesn’t make you look smart to “see the other perspective” when the other perspective is nonsense.

        • The Real Greg says:

          It’s logical. That’s all that matters.

        • Havok9120 says:

          …..it ISN’T nonsense. Just because you disagree with taking a longer view doesn’t mean the longer view is stupid.

          • Matt says:

            It most definitely is. He was not tired. It doesn’t matter if his pitch count was 108. He had barely been under pressure. That 108 might have been the equivalent of 85 or 90 pitches under normal circumstances.

            It isn’t taking long view when you needlessly make a move that puts the game at risk.

            • Havok9120 says:

              You have absolutely no reliable way of knowing if he was tired or not. Even going by velocity (which I wasn’t watching) wouldn’t give you an accurate read on that. Nor does it matter. The entire team is relying on an older rotation staying healthy and reliable for the foreseeable future. You’ve got one of the half dozen or so most reliable relief pitchers in baseball as your setup man. There’s nothing wrong with using him.

            • The Real Greg says:

              His last start was a complete game shutout.

              Go ahead and blow out his arm in April.

              • Matt says:

                Aren’t you funny. Blow out his arm? His pitch count was 108, not 130. He also had an extra day of rest inbetween starts.

                • The Real Greg says:

                  He’s also 38 years old.

                  • Matt says:

                    Not making you look good when you have to constantly shift your rationale in the face of the facts.

                    • Havok9120 says:

                      You’ve yet to deploy a single “fact” in your argument. It’s a ton of shouting, overblown outrage, claims that we’re personally attacking you, and the occasional bit of anecdotal evidence.

                      So basically your usual schtick.

              • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

                He had an extra day of rest. His arm was in no danger of being blown out.

                • The Real Greg says:

                  He’s 38 years old. Are you willing to risk it when you had a guy in the pen that had not given up a run all year?

                  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

                    Then why let Hirok even start the inning?

                    Why did that dumbass Girardi risk Hirok pitching to 2 extra batters when he had a guy in the pen who hadn’t given up a run all year!!!!??

                    You can’t have it both ways.

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      Yes, it’s completely irrational to take out a 38 year old pitcher, in his fourth or fifth start of the year, to take a guy out at 108 pitches. 5 days after he through a complete game. When you have one of the best set up men in baseball. And there are 27-30 more starts we need Kuroda to go deep into the game this season. Completely irrational. No rational there. At all.

  116. Karl Krawfid says:


  117. Whats left of gardners war says:

    His curve ball been shit since he got hurt last year he dosent bend the mid section enough.

  118. Whats left of gardners war says:

    27 pitches and no one up

  119. King George says:

    Robertson. Wow.

  120. Eddard says:

    Girardi is checking his chart and not moving a muscle. Mo should have been in this game 3 batters ago.

  121. TomH says:

    Bring in Shawn!

  122. Eddard says:

    Last year Hiroki was robbed of win after win since they never scored any runs for him. This year he put them in prime position to win and Robertson blew it. Another W stolen from Hiroki.

  123. Havok9120 says:

    Alright boys. With the bats now.

  124. The Real Greg says:

    This has nothing to do with rational decisions or not. All this comes down to is a player doing their job. And Robertson failed in his job. When can we start blaming the players.

    • Matt says:

      Just stop already. Kuroda was throwing a shutout. He gave up a ground ball off a guy’s glove. There was no reason to even risk it there and Girardi paid the price for overmanaging.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      Robertson failed. So did Girardi.

  125. TomH says:

    The hapless Nunez

  126. TomH says:

    The hapless Nix.

  127. The Real Greg says:

    And by the way, I looked up at the section when Girardi made the change in the first place. No complaints WHAT SO EVER. Can’e play revisionist history.

  128. Leg-End says:

    Nunez needs to start hitting else his usefulness is next to nothing.

  129. Karl Krawfid says:

    Yankees blew a bases loaded chance against AZ.

    One here.

    Nothing new.

  130. TomH says:

    It would be a body-blow to morale for the Yankees to blow this game.

  131. Eddard says:

    Why go to Mo and give yourself another shot with the heart of your order? I just don’t understand this philosophy. I’d rather have Joba pitching with the lead trying to close.

  132. Whats left of gardners war says:

    You guys ready for Joba to give this game away?

  133. Mykey says:

    Joba, throwin’ fire!

  134. Leg-End says:

    98 MPH.

  135. Eddard says:

    Joba’s pining to get that 8th inning role. If he’s going to throw 98 he just might get it. Robertson was awful.

  136. Long-Past-His-Day-Rod says:

    Did Joba forget what year it is?

    Dealing heat!

  137. Winter says:

    Gameday said Joba hit 98 with that fastball. Is that possibly true?

  138. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:


  139. Winter says:

    I guess it’s not just te offense that thinks it’s 2007.

  140. Eddard says:

    He did not just take out Joba to play matchups in a tie game. IS GIRARDI WATCHING THE GAME!!!!!!!!

  141. Matt says:

    Joba is consistently 97-98 and overpowering the hitters.

    But let’s take him out just because a lefty is coming to the plate! It’s not like we might need this guy to throw up a few zeroes before our offense can break through in a tie game!

  142. Karl Krawfid says:

    He fuck you again Joe. Jesus Christ.

    Take out the good pitchers, bring in the trash.

    Got it.

  143. Long-Past-His-Day-Rod says:

    The binder strikes again!

  144. ClusterDuck says:

    Don’t take Joba out here.

  145. Chilango says:

    Juat got back. Let me guess. Since Joba jus pitched and Boonie’s coming in, I’m assuming Houdini gave up the runs

  146. Mykey says:

    Joba would have struck him out in 3 pitches hitting 100 and then launched a firecracker out of his crotch. FACT.

  147. Eddard says:

    The Yanks one shot will be this next inning with the heart of the order. Hafner, Cano, Overbay, Wells. That’s our shot because Joe burned through Joba and Logan. I like Phelps but we saw what he did vs the Os in extras. It’s a thin bullpen as it is and Joe ran through these guys like he’s got an unlimited supply.

  148. Dalek Jeter says:

    Pronk for Francisco please.

  149. The Real Greg says:

    And that’s why the Jays go to the lefty, to block Hafner

  150. TomH says:

    The hapless Francisco.

    How long does he stay around?

  151. Havok9120 says:

    Lawrie’s been Jekyll and Hyde defensively today.

  152. The Real Greg says:

    One question. I thought DL’ed players could be replaced on the roster. So why does it seem that the Yankees are short players?

  153. Matt says:

    By taking out Joba, Girardi not only got himself a worse matchup against Rasmus but also against every other hitter thereafter.

    Keep talking about how Girardi thinks of the big picture. Each of the moves that he keeps making are very short-sighted.

    • The Real Greg says:

      That’s fine. It’s how he’s managed throughout his tenure.

      If you don’t like it, fire him and get somebody else.

      • Matt says:

        Self-consistency is a weakness, not a strength. This is not politics. Continuing to make the same mistakes repeatedly is inexcusable.

    • Evan3457 says:

      Exactly how was Logan a worse matchup against Rasmus?

      Rasmus was 0-1 against Joba; Rasmus was 0-5 with 3 K against Logan before that AB.

      Now he’s 0-6 with 4 K’s.

  154. The Real Greg says:

    Jays are going to bunt this.

  155. Winter says:

    So Joba can’t face the lefty, but Boone can face the righty?

    • Mykey says:

      Yeah, I don’t get it.

      • The Real Greg says:

        Izturis is a switch batter, I think.

        • Matt says:

          Which is even more of a reason not to match up with Logan. The amount that you lose from having Logan face all righties or switch hitters afterwards is far greater than the loss (if it all) from having Joba with his fastbal at 98 mph facing the lefty.

          • Havok9120 says:

            Agreed. Especially since his slider looked so good. Having that breaking pitch working so well would’ve gone a long ways toward equalizing the situational anyway.

  156. Eddard says:

    Girardi would rather pitch a position player than use Mo in a tie game on the road. He needs Mo for that save situation, damnit. A save situation that may never come.

    • The Real Greg says:

      In that situation though a lot of managers do it. Doesn’t make right but condemn one, condemn them all.

  157. Whats left of gardners war says:


  158. The Real Greg says:

    This move is very questionable. His moves have been getting worse and more tenuous since the 8th inning.

    • Troll says:

      You’re blaming the manager, Greg. DON’T BLAME THE MANAGER! But, you know what I say, condemn on, condemn them all.


  159. Dalek Jeter says:

    …there has to be a better option then Shawn Kelley.

  160. TomH says:

    Oh, no! Kelley! They might as well fly a white flag from the Yankees’ dugout.

  161. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Score now please.

  162. Havok9120 says:

    Tom, you can breathe now.

    • TomH says:

      I have to go there tomorrow, and I’m glad they’ve used him twice in two days. Unlikely that Joe will bring him in tomorrow. If so, I’ll have to go find a long lineup for hot dogs.

  163. TomH says:

    Kelley, as I’ve always said: that Great Man.

  164. Dalek Jeter says:

    Pronk for Ichiro PLEASE

  165. The Real Greg says:

    Ironic in that the one decision that I think was an okay decision he got burned but the two subsequent decisions that I thought were tenuous he has been able to get away with.

  166. Eddard says:

    They’re walking a tightrope here. Best score this inning and hand it over to Mo. Knowing Girardi he’ll get Wells on and have Cervelli bunt.

  167. TomH says:

    Wells is rising to the occasion of his return to Toronto.

  168. Dalek Jeter says:

    Do not let Ichiro hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  169. Leg-End says:

    Bunt now.

  170. Anthony says:

    C’mon lets get a run here and out comes Mo.

  171. Anthony says:


  172. Eddard says:

    YES! Girardi surprisingly did not bunt and Frankie came through! NOW you bunt with Ichiro.

  173. Havok9120 says:



  174. JonS says:

    “That cancerous defense”

  175. Leg-End says:

    Jays defense is horrendus.

  176. Mykey says:

    Just how we drew it up.

  177. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Bad bunt bailed out by bad defense.

    Please don’t squander this gift.

  178. Eddard says:


  179. Havok9120 says:

    Bunt double for the lead. Exactly how they drew it up.

  180. Matt says:

    Hey, look at what happens when you don’t needlessly sacrifice an out with a hot hitter, and then when you finally do put the pressure on them by sacrificing in the appropriate situation.

    Funny that as soon as Girardi stopped overmanaging, the team happened to get the job done.

    • Havok9120 says:

      Wait, what?

      Not bunting the catcher, a position generally considered a black hole manned by a player who few would think of as an offensive powerhouse before the season started and then bunting the guy traditionally thought of as a star contact hitter who’s reliable in the clutch, is a sign of less invasive managing? Why, because it worked?

      Just because you don’t like the guy’s style doesn’t mean you need to make it seem like he does everything wrong or is a total moron anymore than Greg needs to defend everything he does because he LIKES his managing style.

  181. Dalek Jeter says:


  182. Chilango says:

    Some Low A D. Awright.

  183. VT Yankee Fan says:

    That was Arrencibia’s fault.

  184. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Don’t love bunting in front of Nix.

  185. Eddard says:

    The decision not to bunt Frankie won the ballgame. If he bunts Frankie then it’s Ichiro and Nuney to drive the run in. Girardi redeemed himself.

  186. Chilango says:

    What happened to Youk?

  187. Mykey says:

    Come on. Not this again, please.

  188. Karl Krawfid says:

    Come on where was that first pitch?

  189. Leg-End says:

    Be glad to see the back of this umps plate.

  190. Chilango says:

    Robbie and Mo choke on the same day? Has that ever happened before?

  191. Eddard says:

    That first ball was on the plate, a strike. Laz Diaz should be fired.

  192. Dalek Jeter says:

    I think this is the most negative game thread for a winning game ever.

    • Havok9120 says:

      It certainly ranks on the top 5. Mainly because so much of it came while the game looked to be in hand.

    • Noah Poser says:

      We all wanted Kuroda to get the win. Especially me because he’s on my fantasy team.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      Probably because of the epic bedshitting by DRob. That was a bad one, and it was almost all just a giveaway.
      But we won, so I’m getting drunk.

  193. Anthony says:

    Way to go Mo. Glad we took the first two.

  194. Leg-End says:

    After that double, nothing but vintage Mo. Lovely.

  195. Havok9120 says:

    Laz Diaz strikes again to give us the win.


  196. Whats left of gardners war says:

    What a game
    Going to be hell without Mo next year

  197. Eddard says:

    Yet another series win, now 4 games over .500. This team is something special, just finding new ways to win each night.

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