Apr
21

Game 17: Finish The Sweep

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It’s early, but the Yankees have yet to sweep a non-rain-interrupted series this year. They had a chance to sweep the Diamondbacks last week before dropping the finale in extra innings, and they’ll have another chance to sweep a three-game series today. There would be no better time for that first sweep of the year than this afternoon, against a Blue Jays team that fancies itself a contender following a big offseason. They’ve been wholly unimpressive in the early going — only the Marlins (-42) and Astros (-33) have a worse run differential than Toronto (-32) — but I think we all know that could turn around in a hurry.

Here’s the lineup that will face right-hander Josh Johnson, one of the Jays’ biggest offseason addition both figuratively and literally (he’s listed at 6-foot-7 and 250 lbs.)…

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. 2B Robinson Cano
  3. LF Vernon Wells
  4. DH Travis Hafner
  5. 1B Lyle Overbay
  6. SS Eduardo Nunez
  7. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  8. 3B Jayson Nix
  9. C Chris Stewart

And on the mound for the Yankees is right-hander Ivan Nova, who is seeking his second straight victory. This afternoon’s game is scheduled to start at 1:07pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

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  1. Dr. TJ Eckleberg says:

    That lineup sucks. That lineup + Nova = high probability of disaster.

    • jjyank says:

      It’s not what we’ve been used to in years past, but swap Stewart and Cervelli, and this is more or less the same line up that is tied for second in all of baseball in team wRC+.

    • Laz says:

      Have you seen Toronto’s lineup?

      Go back to Canada.

  2. trr says:

    as Sterling would say ” You just never know about this game “

  3. SamVa says:

    It’s crazy that you could argue outside of the 1-3 maybe 4 hitters in our lineup… the rest are replacement level players or less and we are still winning games.

    Go Yankees!

  4. Laz says:

    Tell me 1 month ago that Wells is our #3 hole hitter and I shit my pants.

  5. Eddard says:

    This is a good lineup. I think people look at the names and say there’s no way this team can be winning. Wells, Hafner and Overbay have been hitting the ball well and there’s no reason to think that can’t continue. Nuney’s due to breakout any day now. If Nova can limit the damage like he did his last outing they have a good chance to complete the sweep.

  6. Pseudoyanks says:

    Any update on Youk?

    • jjyank says:

      Via Chad Jennings:

      “As expected, Kevin Youkilis is out of the lineup after being pulled from yesterday’s game with a tight lower back. “I feel good,” he said. Sounds like there’s no plan to use him today, but Youkilis said he’s available to pinch hit or even play the field if necessary. Joe Girardi didn’t completely rule out the idea. “I’ll have to see as the day goes on,” Girardi said. “I just want to try to clear it up if we can. It’s good that he feels a lot better. That’s a positive thing for us.”

  7. Preston says:

    I remember in 2011 when Nova’s starts were must watch TV. A young Yankee starter who worked fast and threw strikes. He just pounded the bottom of the strike zone with that sinker. It was easy to imagine a cheap front end starter for the next 5 seasons. Now he’s tough to watch.

  8. Dalek Jeter says:

    Teh Guttiest.

  9. Eddard says:

    Gritty gutty Gardner leads off with an infield single. Sign of good things to come.

  10. nycsportzfan says:

    I’m not to hungry, i’ll just have a gardner salad please…

  11. nycsportzfan says:

    Come on yanks, lets get these guys early! Come on Pronk!

  12. nycsportzfan says:

    Horrible at bat for pronk, he struck out and he didn’t even do anything but a half swing..

  13. Dalek Jeter says:

    Petition to change “Wins Above Replacement” to “Wins Above Jayson Nix.”

  14. Chilango says:

    Nova can handle their lineup. No screwing around, hope he goes after them

  15. nycsportzfan says:

    We should crush this loser today.. I seen a couple of Johnson’s starts, and hes dreadful as can be… He has no idea where the balls going and dosent’ seem to have the power he did at one time..

    • jjyank says:

      Aside from this year so far, Johnson hasn’t posted an ERA or a FIP above 3.81 since 2007. The issue here is health, he’s still plenty talented.

  16. Mykey says:

    This feels about right.

  17. Eddard says:

    That K of Bautista was a thing of beauty. Ump should have tossed him.

  18. Mykey says:

    Has Bautista ever agreed with a strike called against him?

  19. Chilango says:

    Nice finish now the DP let’s go

  20. jjyank says:

    Nice hook there, Nova. Keep that shit up.

  21. RetroRob says:

    Nice curve. If Nova could ever repeat his delivery and develop consistency, he might actually be good. Unfortunately…

  22. flamingo says:

    Ugh.

  23. Mykey says:

    Haha nice throw Nunez.

  24. Dalek Jeter says:

    Nunie :(

  25. nycsportzfan says:

    Jay Nix with a airmail.. 1-0 jays.. Oh well, ichiro’s gonna mangle this loser today, and drive in at least 3 by himself.. Call it a hunch, as Ichiro is gonna feast off this sad righty Johnson..

    • jjyank says:

      Okay, I’ll bite one more time, since you didn’t respond to me earlier. Why is is Johnson a “loser” and a “sad righty”, exactly?

  26. Mykey says:

    Just remembered, hoping to see some more back-and-forth between Nova and Bautista.

  27. Chilango says:

    Stonehands Saxes one. Won’t be the last time.

  28. King George says:

    Ivan’s starts are getting tough to watch. It’s all too predictable. ~30 pitches in the first ain’t good.

  29. Eddard says:

    Attack them like you attacked Bautista. Jesus Christ, throw a strike.

  30. Wil Nieves #1 Fan says:

    This gun is juiced.

  31. Mickey Scheister says:

    But TEH STUFF!?!!! Stuff = Success, no? When the fuck did the Yanks re-acquire AJ Burnett? Pretty sure Burnett could’ve managed better than Nova has since last years All-Star break. Nova does better with a sinking 91-93 not this 95-97 straight FB.

  32. Josh says:

    Every time I watch Nova pitch, I just want to barf.

  33. Chilango says:

    Nova needs to just go after these fuckers. He doesn’t seem to trust his stuff. Of course, he’ll say post game: I pitch good. I feel strong.

  34. Cuso says:

    Nova doing his best Alexi Ogando impression today (the hell is up with his face?)

  35. nycsportzfan says:

    Lyle with the leadoff single.. Lets go yanks, lets do something with this leadoff single this time!

  36. Josh says:

    Loverbay

  37. nycsportzfan says:

    Ichiro gonna drive this run in!

  38. hogsmog says:

    I only just now realized how much of a black hole this lineup is without Youk and hot-streak-Cervelli. I sure hope this back injury isn’t serious.

  39. nycsportzfan says:

    Ichiro in 1-2 hole.. Come on Ichiro, ur not gonna get a better guy to face to get a big game..

  40. nycsportzfan says:

    Jesus Ichiro, what are u swinging at?

  41. Dalek Jeter says:

    Ichiro is just done. I was really, really hoping I was wrong about this…but god he just looks so lost.

    • hogsmog says:

      Now would be a good time to start trying to hit all those home runs everybody likes to say he’s capable of :P

  42. Mykey says:

    Man, I’m really afraid of Johnson getting back to where he once was.

  43. nycsportzfan says:

    Looks like another wasted leadoff single for yanks.. Nix in 0-2 hole before u can blink..

  44. Winter says:

    Was that last pitch as far outside as it looked on gameday?

  45. nycsportzfan says:

    Another wasted leadoff single.. Nix and Nunez can’t hit for shit..

  46. hogsmog says:

    Man, I don’t know why Girardi lines up Stewart to catch Nova, who needs all the offense he can get.

    • fabrico says:

      as you can see nova’s pitch location sucks ass and he needs Stewart’s pitch framing and his veteran presence

  47. Cy Pettitte says:

    Nova starts are unwatchable

  48. nycsportzfan says:

    Nova gives up leadoff double.. Uht oh!

  49. Karl Krawfid says:

    Remember when I saying the Yanks should trade Nova?

  50. Mykey says:

    Hmm, sunny day, inauspicious start, I may not continue watching here.

  51. King George says:

    Oh, this is painful. Please hurry, Michael Pineda.

  52. SDB says:

    Ugh. Nova’s just become painful to watch these days.

    How long before Phelps or Warren start warming up?

  53. Cuso says:

    Nunez has no pain tolerance (yes this is my new meme).

    He is SUCH a baby!

  54. Cy Pettitte says:

    pretty lucky to only be down 2-0

  55. Cuso says:

    Eduardo Nun-youch!

  56. Cy Pettitte says:

    hahaha Chris Stewart HR

  57. Mykey says:

    My mind! What did I just watch!?

  58. Karl Krawfid says:

    Stewie

  59. Eddard says:

    CHRIS STEWART GOES DEEP! YANKEE CATCHERS CONTINUE TO MASH!!!!

  60. nycsportzfan says:

    Now thats the Josh Johnson i’ve been saying sucks! Chris Stewart baby!

  61. Mike HC says:

    Chris Stewart! I never doubted you

  62. Preston says:

    Chris Stewart is a starting Catcher!

  63. jjyank says:

    *rubs eyes*

    ‘Atta boy…Stewart?

  64. nycsportzfan says:

    The yanks get a extra base hit like every game basically..lol

    Base hit for Gardner, whos now 2for2.. Hes having a splendid season!

  65. Winter says:

    This has to be the weirdest Yankees team I’ve ever seen. Chris Stewart? What the fuck is happening?

  66. flamingo says:

    Hahaha.

  67. Cy Pettitte says:

    I’m starting to think Cashman knew what he was doing when he let Martin walk lol

  68. Mike HC says:

    If Gardner doesn’t steal here it will be ridiculous

  69. SDB says:

    Russell Who?

    What’s the over/under on how many innings Nova gets through today? I’ll say 4.1.

  70. And in merrie olde England says:

    Wow, great start to my viewing pleasure. How many pitches is Nova on, I’m guessing it’s not going to be good news.

  71. Pat D says:

    Why is it that I never seem to be watching when impossible shit like Jayson Nix and Chris Stewart home runs happen?

  72. forensic says:

    It’s kind of amazing that they try to make a big deal out of Gardner’s lead earlier, and the same one now, and yet Kawasaki was a good 2-3 feet further out.

    Just run Gardner!!!

  73. Cy Pettitte says:

    will Gardy ever steal a base?

  74. forensic says:

    Oh my god Cano…

  75. Dalek Jeter says:

    Wait…gameday is telling me that Stewart went yard. That’s obviously wrong. How’d we actually score?

    • jjyank says:

      No no, that’s right. Gameday probably just missed the on-field delay where Stewart stepped out of the box to make a deal with Satan before he at bat.

  76. nycsportzfan says:

    Cano swings at a pitch that i honestly don’t know what he was thinking.. Is it that hard to figure out if ur patient with this guy u will work a count to hitters count and get a easy to drill fastball?

  77. forensic says:

    I totally agree with Kay, still don’t like this lineup formation at all.

    There’s also that Gardner is hesitant to get thrown out with Cano at the plate, when everyone here would freak out in that situation.

  78. SDB says:

    About time Gardy started stealing.

  79. Dalek Jeter says:

    I was just about to say, I don’t understand, we face a weak fielding 3rd baseman in Miggy when we were in Detroit, not one bunt all series…now we’re facing a weak defensive catcher in Ariencibia, and no stolen bases.

  80. Wheels says:

    What’s that on Gardner’s hand?

  81. nycsportzfan says:

    come on Hafner, get this run in.. At least have one full swing this at bat…

  82. Luis Castillo (Not the one who dropped the ball) says:

    Wtf Cano?
    I think Kay has a point Cano doesn’t seem to know what to do when Gardner is on first cause it takes forever for him to take off for second.

  83. nycsportzfan says:

    There ya go Hafner.. Now its up to Overbay to drill a single somewhere

  84. forensic says:

    Ugh, wish they would stop swinging at those curveballs clearly heading for the dirt. Not a single one has been a strike yet.

  85. SDB says:

    Pronk stealing? Stewart going yard?

    What parallel universe are we in?

  86. nycsportzfan says:

    Jesus, should have more then one run so far…

  87. wow says:

    the Yankees need to give up on Nova the starting pitcher.

  88. jjyank says:

    Stewart hits a homer, Hafner steals a base…WHAT IS GOING ON?

  89. Mike HC says:

    Holy Shit!!!

  90. Karl Krawfid says:

    OMG WELLS!

  91. nycsportzfan says:

    WELLS ISN”T HUMAN!!

  92. Eddard says:

    VERNON WELLS!!!!! BEST FA SIGNING THIS SEASON!!!!!!!

  93. Get Phelps Up says:

    That was pretty sweet Vernon.

  94. forensic says:

    Wow! Great catch Wells!

    I thought that was out. Very lucky for Nova.

  95. SeventhAce says:

    A bit late….

    BUT HAh!!! SCREW YOU TORONTO FANS! WELLS just said STFU.

  96. mustang says:

    WOW!!!!

  97. Eddard says:

    That would have gone over Raul’s head and Andruw Jones would still be chasing after the ball. Great pickup by Cashman.

  98. jjyank says:

    Haha, that was awesome! Beautiful catch.

  99. Mike HC says:

    Can we move Granderson to rightfield?

  100. Eddard says:

    And then Nova walks the next man on 5 pitches. THROW A STRIKE.

  101. wow says:

    Wells breaking out the tractor beam.

  102. forensic says:

    It sure would’ve been nice if any of the Dodgers, Royals, or Athletics had decided to show up at some point this weekend.

  103. RetroRob says:

    So when Grandy returns, I wonder how they’ll handle the 4 OFer defensive rotation. Wells picking up the role of Andruw Jones?

    • jjyank says:

      Depends how Wells is hitting by then, I’d imagine. Right now I sure as hell hope it’s Ichiro that gets bumped.

  104. SeventhAce says:

    Ugh, I hate games at the Rogers Center…
    It’s such a depressing place to look at and then there’s that goddamn ugly astroturf.

  105. mustang says:

    Here boys just start saying sorry myself included.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2013/.....day-83933/

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      I was so utterly and terribly wrong about this aquisition. I might not have said it on the website, but I have to at least a few people IRL, that I thought this was “Ichiro 2.0″ and I was wrong. Wells has been great so far, hopefully he keeps it up.

      Ichiro on the other hand can’t hit or throw anymore, he’s also basically an average fielder and would be above average on the bases if he could get on base.

    • mustang says:

      Pete says:
      March 24, 2013 at 8:05 pm
      How can anyone not laugh at this years team? I cant remember the last time I’ve seen such a patchwork, no rhyme or reason, team. And really? North of 5 million for Wells but they didnt want to bring Martin back?
      Cashman, you truly are a clown.

      TomH says:
      March 24, 2013 at 8:02 pm
      They must be laughing like hell in the offices of the Rogers Centre, in Toronto, where their GM not only managed) to off-load Wells in the scam of the decade while, later, “raping” Florida to become the creme de la creme of the AL East.

      Robinson Tilapia says:
      March 24, 2013 at 7:14 pm
      Yeah, he’s not worth 5 mil. He’s not worth 1 mil.
      I hope this hits a snag and doesn’t happen, even if we’re giving back the fringiest of fringy guys.

      jjyank says:
      March 24, 2013 at 3:42 pm
      Ew. Pass, pass, pass.

    • forensic says:

      He’s been great mostly so far, but it’s still been less than 3 weeks.

  106. jjyank says:

    Bah, I guessed BJ Ryan for the trivia question, but I just looked it up and I’m wrong. I was real close though, he had 38 saves for Toronto in 2006.

  107. Robinson Tilapia says:

    As improbable as this may be, I think I love Vernon Wells.

  108. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Bacon-cheddar stuffed burger at BK. That’s, like, the opposite of what I think a burger should be.

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      +1

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        You know this about me already, but I am such a believer in letting the meat speak for itself with a burger. Toppings are fine, but I can’t take these burgers with so many toppings on them that it masks the actual beef.

      • Dalek Jeter says:

        Also, I’ve been experimenting lately on the inclusion of hot sauce in my burger mix and avocado on top…it’s going well. I suggest you try.

    • jjyank says:

      I honestly haven’t been to a BK is about 10 years.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        I used to love it as a kid, but I’ve to consider it to be even less actual food than McDonalds, which does get a once-a-year visit from me if I’m in a real jam and stuck in the middle of nowhere.

        • jjyank says:

          They gave me cold fries once. I never went back.

          I don’t mind McDonalds once in awhile. I did notice that on facebook you posted that “best burgers in the country” thing a few days ago. One in DC made the list, so I’m gonna have to check that out.

          Also, they’re finally building a Shake Shack down here :D

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            You’ve always had one around DuPont Circle!

            I actually never closed that tab. I need to print it out, as I’ll be in a couple of those cities before the end of the year.

            Remember to try to Good Stuff Eatery burger. I thought it was close to Shake Shack quality.

          • Dalek Jeter says:

            Ugh, Mcdonalds is the fast food I absolutely avoid at all costs, but really for me it’s Wendy’s or nothing…and I don’t get burgers from anywhere but Steak’n’Shake anymore for fast food.

            Also, RT, next time you’re at GSP, go to ZinBurger. Get a Zin Burger and Double Truffle Fries.

            • Robinson Tilapia says:

              I need to head out there. I’m just scared shitless of how my son would do inside a crazed mall like that.

              • Dalek Jeter says:

                I suggest just going at an off peak time. If can go on like a Wednesday in the middle of the day around now, while kids are still in school and it’s not Holiday time, it’s honestly kind of dead.

  109. Eddard says:

    2nd straight game for Nova where it hasn’t looked pretty but he’s kept us in the ballgame. He’s developed the Phil Hughes syndrome of going 0-2 to 3-2. He needs to throw the sinking fastball more, that’s his bread and butter. The curve is a complement pitch.

    • forensic says:

      He’s been 0-2 three times today. One was a 3 pitch strikeout, one was a 4 pitch single, and one was a 6 pitch strikeout.

      Far from what you’re trying to imply for him.

  110. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Chris Stewart can do nothing right.

  111. Eddard says:

    We might need to find a permanent spot in the lineup for Stewart. Can he play RF?

  112. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Chris Stewart currently sports a 160 wRC+.

    Only 16 PA, but still.

  113. forensic says:

    Come on Hafner!!!

    REALLY need a big hit here.

  114. Wheels says:

    Come on Pronk.

  115. flamingo says:

    C’mon Hafner, do your thing.

  116. forensic says:

    That was horrible.

  117. Robinson Tilapia says:

    And THAT was a shitty out by Pronk.

  118. nycsportzfan says:

    jesus, i knew litteraly as soon as they got 3hits in a row and fucking idiot Robby Thompson(does he ever make a good call?) held Stewart, it’d end badly this inning..

    Hafner and Overbay both swinging at first pitches which is so stupid against this guy… Hafners at bats have been terribe today…

  119. nycsportzfan says:

    we stranded a full army today, litterly..

  120. mustang says:

    mustang says:
    March 25, 2013 at 1:11 pm
    I’m not talking since the Tex/Grandy injuries I’m taking about this winter. That 13 million could have gotten some stronger spare parts then Wells and the 2 headed catching dragon they have now. Its not like they didn’t know the team was old and injury prone.

    FOUND IT

    LOL

  121. OldYanksFan says:

    Overbay still has a nice swing but is NOT at all selective.
    He NEVER makes a pitcher throw him a decent pitch.
    So he is just a mistake hitter.

  122. Dalek Jeter says:

    Come on Loverbay!!

  123. Dalek Jeter says:

    Loverbay with the Giambi-esc eye!

  124. Get Phelps Up says:

    Very nice AB for Loverbay.

  125. nycsportzfan says:

    Wow, Overbay came back to manage aribby walk.. Amazing at bat and my anger toward Thompson has settled…

  126. forensic says:

    Gets the job done Overbay!

    See what happens when you finally don’t swing at those curveballs clearly in the dirt???

  127. Eddard says:

    Great eye, Overbay, great eye. Now drive the rest of them in, Nuney.

  128. flamingo says:

    Tie game!

  129. forensic says:

    Nunez, this would be a terrific time for you to find a hit somehow…

  130. jjyank says:

    Thanks, Loverbay!

  131. nycsportzfan says:

    Come on Nunez!!! 3-0 count!

  132. forensic says:

    Well Kay, he actually hasn’t really lost the plate. He’s been outside the zone all day, the Yankees have just been swinging at everything before these couple AB’s.

  133. Wil Nieves #1 Fan says:

    And then Ichiro swung at the first pitch.

  134. Robinson Tilapia says:

    It must be confusing for Josh Johnson to see all these people inside his home stadium.

  135. mustang says:

    The on paper Winter Champs looking great.

  136. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Can’t throw a strike?
    Walk in 2 runs?

    Swing at the first pitch. SMDH.

  137. forensic says:

    Ok Ichiro. I’ve tried to defend you, but that’s inexcusable.

    Dude is walking the park and you go hack at the first pitch???

  138. nycsportzfan says:

    Ichiro is hopeless..lol I’ve had his back this entire yr, but i’m with Mike.A now, hes done… Still, solid ining though…

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      So I just pasted this into Word. 6 out of 21 words spelt wrong. That’s literally 29% wrong, and according to the “Phlesh Test” which judges grade reading level, this is written at a 3.8 grade level.

      For reference the lowest I scored on this test this semester was 7.2 and I wrote the paper drunk and a little high.

  139. King George says:

    Fucking Ichiro. God damn it.

  140. Matt says:

    Ichiro is such a genius. The guy just walked in two straight runs, including the previous run on 4 pitches, but of course that means the guy is just going to throw it down the middle.

    After all, when he absolutely had to throw a strike to Nunez on both 2-0 and 3-0, he had no problem pouring one over? Right? Oh wait…

    I was stunned when they re-signed Ichiro. His approach is the antithesis of the entire rest of the team, and unless he’s on fire like in September he hurts you far more than he helps you by being that aggressive.

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      Matt, I very rarely agree with you, and I honestly find you irritating at times because you’re hard headed at times. However, I agree with just every single word of this.

  141. Luis Castillo (Not the one who dropped the ball) says:

    Ichiro is a fucking idiot and i hate he is on the yankees.

  142. Warren says:

    I hate ichiro. The guy literally hasn’t thrown a strike in 7 pitches but he has to swing at the first one and send it to the 2nd basemen AGAIN. A little baseball intelligence PLEASE?

  143. nycsportzfan says:

    Nice solid play by Nunez…

  144. Eddard says:

    I don’t know what Boesch has to do to get another shot. He had 2 hits the last time he played, which was a week ago. Even Kay knows Ichiro shouldn’t have swung at the 1st pitch.

  145. nycsportzfan says:

    I can’t believe Gardner is only hitting 274BA.. Seems like hes hitting above 300Ba, and always getting hits..

  146. forensic says:

    Let’s see if Nova can actually put up a shut-down inning.

    Bad part of the lineup to try to do it against though.

  147. Robinson Tilapia says:

    My least favorite part of games at Rogers Centre: The “Pizza Pizza” ad. I had that stuff up there once. I feel sorry for anyone who actually confuses that with pizza.

  148. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Stewie doing all kinds of good things today.

  149. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Chris Stewart is worthless and should be shot in the leg.

  150. mustang says:

    NICE!!!

  151. forensic says:

    John Gibbons on the bullpen phone:

    Gibbons: “Warm up the lefty!”

    Bullpen: “Which one?”

    Gibbons: “I don’t care, any one. Whoever wants to throw with their left arm today. Just get me a lefty!”

    We’ll be seeing this a lot for the next few weeks.

    Two lefty starters and two lefty relievers for the Rays coming up next.

  152. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Doug Mientkiewicz would have caught that.

  153. forensic says:

    Hope that doesn’t bite them Overbay. Bad time for a mistake like that, even on a tough catch.

  154. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Also, according to Wikipedia, Doug Mientkiewicz has a kid named “Steel.”

  155. forensic says:

    Whew, nice job Nova. Shut-down inning!

  156. Get Phelps Up says:

    Stewart with a Cervelli fist pump there.

  157. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    For a defense first 1B, Overbay has been rather mediocre defensively.

  158. Eddard says:

    Another 5 IP, 2 runs. Not pretty but he got the job done and gave us a chance to win. That’s what a 5th starter is supposed to do.

  159. forensic says:

    John Gibbons looking like “Someone told me this team was better than the last time I was here. What happened to that theory???”

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      “Is it me? Nah.”

    • Dalek Jeter says:

      Dude, you mentioned at the beginning of the game that you weren’t fond of this line up, I meant to ask you but the game got going, apart from putting a healthy Youk in the 2-hole and having Robbie hit 3rd, and have Ichiro bat 10th with Boesch in the 7-8 hole, what else would you do?

      • forensic says:

        I wouldn’t have Youk 2nd, he’s too important for me in the middle of the lineup.

        Ideally, I’d have an Ichiro or Nunez 2nd, but they haven’t earned it at this point. Truthfully, I might put Cervelli there right now. He’s battling and putting together some terrific AB’s.

        Gardner
        Cervelli
        Cano
        Youkilis
        Hafner
        Wells

        The bottom three aren’t that big a deal, though I’d have one of Nunez or Ichiro 9th to keep speed in front of Gardner.

        That’s just how I’d throw it together right now.

        Not that my initial comment here was about the Yankees lineup anyway. ;-)

        • forensic says:

          And no, I wouldn’t play Boesch over Ichiro, even as bad as Ichiro has looked much of the time.

          • Dalek Jeter says:

            I disagree, only because at least Boesch gives you a bit of power and Youk gets on base a lot, takes a lot of pitches, and doesn’t have the same name power as Cano. I think batting him 2nd behind Gardner gives Gardner the chance to steal more and also puts more ducks on the pond more frequently for Cano.

            • Dalek Jeter says:

              So mine would be:
              Gardner
              Youk
              Cano
              Hafner
              Wells
              Boesch
              Cervelli
              Overbay
              Nunez

              • forensic says:

                But you’re putting the 2nd highest OBP on the team in the 7th spot in the order.

                Is it likely to stay up there? No, but neither are almost all of the others either.

                And I just don’t see it with Boesch. Vastly overrated, even for a guy not overly highly rated.

                • Dalek Jeter says:

                  Honestly, I’m not all that high on Boesch, I just think because of his power, there is no way he can be any worse than Ichiro.

        • jjyank says:

          You know what, why the hell not? Cervelli is hitting, and I’m also not really fond of Cano in the 2-hole.

          You mentioned Ichiro and Nunez, and I agree, if they were hitting, I’d put one of them there. Lost in all of this is Jeter’s setback/re-injury. That makes things more difficult as well with constructing the top of the lineup.

          • forensic says:

            Sadly, Jeter doesn’t bother me all that much. In a way it’s good because it gives them flexibility. I wasn’t so sure he was really going to be hitting much anyway. Just not much faith after this injury.

            Just wish Nunez was hitting the way he did last time he took over for a long period of time (2011).

  160. forensic says:

    In all seriousness, Johnson really did look like a fraction of his former self. They really should’ve done much better than they did if they hadn’t helped him out on so many clearly out of the zone pitches.

    I hadn’t seen him really pitch for awhile, it’s pretty surprising how different he looked. Still good, but certainly not what I had imagined or remembered.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      I actually do somewhat agree with what nycsportzfan attempted to type while horseback riding. He doesn’t look right at all. He looked so tentative out there.

      I really liked him coming up with the Marlins. Maybe it’s injury. Maybe he peaked early. Maybe the transition is tough on him but, yeah, I wasn’t one bit scared watching him pitch.

  161. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Nix and Stewart can do nothing right.

  162. Eddard says:

    That was a well manufactured run there. Good job by all.

  163. flamingo says:

    The fact that we may sweep a series at Rogers Centre (!) is completely amazing to me. Obviously there’s still more baseball to be played, but that it’s even a possibility shocks me. It seems like the Yankees usually play terribly here.

  164. mustang says:

    The winning anti- Wells comment especially for this series:

    “They must be laughing like hell in the offices of the Rogers Centre, in Toronto, where their GM not only managed) to off-load Wells in the scam of the decade while, later, “raping” Florida to become the creme de la creme of the AL East.”

  165. Dalek Jeter says:

    First baserunner, go to the ‘Pen.

  166. forensic says:

    Ugh, 3 walks for Lind. Not good at all Nova.

  167. Dalek Jeter says:

    Joe, Larry, go get him. RIGHT NOW.

  168. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Maybe ten minutes ago would be a good time to go to the pen.

  169. Preston says:

    I just assumed Nova would be gone, Girardi got greedy leaving him.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      At some point during the season, we’ll be screaming bloody murder when he pulls a starter with a lead before the end of the fifth inning, yet he pushed his luck with Nova here.

  170. mustang says:

    Nova…SMH

  171. Eddard says:

    He was ahead of both of those hitters and gave up a walk and a double. Just can’t put away hitters or throw that sinking fastball and get a groundball. Guess the pen will have to save the day.

  172. New York City Sports Fan says:

    That was a reprehensible inning by Nova. I am LITERALLY disappointed in his efforts.

  173. Anderson Silva says:

    hi guys! got home just in time to watch Nova give up that double. How are we doing so far?

  174. Chilango says:

    Lucky to get 5 out of Nova. No way he should have started the 6th

  175. Mickey Scheister says:

    Nova got lucky to last that long, he’s a freaking head case out there. Yeah Pettitte yells at himself but he has composure, most of the time. Hoping the pen can work some magic here…

  176. New York City Sports Fan says:

    Boone Logan is literally incapable of fulfilling his sole purpose on this team.

  177. Robinson Tilapia says:

    NEGATIVE VIBE.

  178. The Real Greg says:

    I would have taken him out after he walked Lind, but his pitch count made it difficult to judge when and where to take him out.

    Bad break for Logan

  179. Matt says:

    There is no point in taking out Logan at this point. The game is pretty much tied up no matter what you do. There is no need to burn through relief pitchers that you might need later on if the game stays tied.

  180. The Real Greg says:

    Has Adam Warren completely disappeared?

  181. ClusterDuck says:

    I’d bring in a short guy like Joba here instead of the longer like Phelps.

  182. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Can anybody get an out?

    Please?

  183. Pat D says:

    Le sigh.

  184. Robinson Tilapia says:

    BIG GAME DAVE PHELPS

  185. Dalek Jeter says:

    Ugh. Phelps. Where’s Joba?!

  186. The Real Greg says:

    Oh well. Didn’t expect to win this game anyway.

  187. Anthony says:

    Kinda figured this would happen once I saw Nova on the mound for another inning.

  188. forensic says:

    Ugh, very aggravating, this whole inning…

  189. Eddard says:

    What a disaster. Middle relief is the weakest part of the ballclub.

  190. The Real Greg says:

    Scream Lawrie, your team is under .500 and lost a series to a team that you were expected to dominate.

    • mustang says:

      Exactly.

      And his team played/ is playing like shit all series and the game isn’t over yet.

    • Luis Castillo (Not the one who dropped the ball) says:

      He is such al idiot…
      I don’t know what’s worse; his on field antics of a moment ago, or the shitfest he put togheter on the field yesterday.

  191. flamingo says:

    Yuck.

  192. Luis Castillo (Not the one who dropped the ball) says:

    Ohhh I dislike you so much Lawrie, you punk.

  193. Matt says:

    The scouting report is out on Phelps. He can’t keep pitching the same way every time out and expect the same results.

    Every time that he is in trouble, he tries to get RHB out with the 2-seamer inside. We saw it the other day with Encarnacion, and we saw it here with Lawrie. Hitters are opening up early to cheat on the pitch and crushing it.

    He has to either throw it way inside to keep them from cheating or drop in more cutters away. You saw how badly Lawrie missed the cutter earlier in the at bat because he was pulling way off the ball. Then why would you throw it where he is looking for it?

  194. Mickey Scheister says:

    Someone plunk Lawrie in his next PA please and thanks. I’m going back to reading my walking dead graphic novels now.

  195. Conouisseur of New York City's Professional Athletic Clubs says:

    Both Ivan Nova and this team’s middle relief are incorrigibly subpar. I literally expect there to be some repercussions in the Yankees’ front office for this.

  196. WhittakerWalt says:

    Still having a hard time figuring out where the Phelps love affair comes from.

    • The Real Greg says:

      He pitched reasonably well last year in the second half of the season.

    • jjyank says:

      It comes from Eddard.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      There’ve been some solid outings where she showed a lot of poise out there last season.

      He looks like complete shit thus far this season. But hey, MULTI-INNING GUYS and all that.

      • WhittakerWalt says:

        He just doesn’t seem like the kind of guy you bring in for high-leverage outs.

        • Matt says:

          Exactly. It was a situation where you needed strikeouts, but you bring in a guy whose approach is to get guys to hit the ball on the ground.

          If you were going to take out Logan, you needed to take a shot with a guy like Joba and see if he could K a few of those bottom of the lineup hitters.

          Otherwise, you were conceding the tie anyway, so why even bother?

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            Agree that Phelps wasn’t the right guy there.

            This is why I like him AND Warren more in spots where they’re bailing out a starter and trying to keep the team in the game. I’m just not sure we need two of those guys.

            I’d be for replacing one with Rapada for sure.

  197. fabrico says:

    i predict lawrie will get injured off some freak accident he slips on a banana peel trying to catch a pop up

  198. Eddard says:

    Kawasaki looked like Ichiro on that K. Corkscrewed himself right into the ground.

  199. Elan says:

    And Phelps blows another one… Why do the Yankees keep putting him in big-game situations again…?

  200. JonS says:

    I hate Lawrie.

    • Preston says:

      I kind of like it. He’s a beastly, max effort guy. If he were on the Yankees he’d probably be my favortite player. Hopefully next year or the year after we’ll have our own uber intense hustle machine in Sladerunner.

  201. mustang says:

    I have been on a losing end of a game thread in a while I forgot how quickly people jump ship.

  202. Anderson Silva says:

    pretty crappy pitching from the Yankees. This bullpen needs some fixing

  203. Matt says:

    How many times does Ichiro let guys score on him or take the extra base because he hesitates and doesn’t expect them to challenge his arm? He needs to be benched at this point. Boesch has done everything right when he plays and has been productive. Ichiro was terrible last year except for one month of the season.

    • The Real Greg says:

      You’re complaining about his defense? Really?

      Lower your damn expectations.

      • Matt says:

        His defense has not been that good. I can certainly complain about his defense when it is literally the only thing he does better than the alternative (Boesch).

        Ichiro should be on the bench. He had one good month last year. That’s it. He hasn’t earned this any more than the other guys who are actually playing well.

        • WhittakerWalt says:

          Don’t you know that The Real Greg’s job is to concern-troll the game threads? He’s here to tell us all how to feel and what to expect.

      • Dalek Jeter says:

        I think Matt’s point is that Ichiro isn’t doing anything well at this point. He’s had horrible ABs, has it the ball hard like 3 times all season, has taken some questionable roots to balls, and on top of that has a very slow release on his throws.

  204. Eddard says:

    Put Joba in next time Lawrie comes up and throw one right by his head.

  205. WhittakerWalt says:

    Umm how many steroids is Brett Lawrie taking?

  206. Conouisseur of New York City's Professional Athletic Clubs says:

    Brett Lawrie literally needs to settle himself down before he ruptures one of his overly-anxious testicles.

  207. forensic says:

    That was a horrible, horrible inning.

    Hopefully they put up a good fight the next three innings at least.

  208. Ethan says:

    Why are they putting phelps in high leverage situations? He’s a long man or 5th starter at best.

  209. jtb1201 says:

    Great bullpen you built there Cashman. A lefty specialist that can’t get lefties out, wow you are brilliant. I have seen enough of Nova and Phelps. Theyre both not very good.

  210. forensic says:

    Hafner is 0-10 with 4 K’s against Cecil.

    One of the times I might not mind trying to dump one down the line…

  211. flamingo says:

    Heh.

  212. Matt says:

    Cecil is getting bailed out every single at bat with strike calls on curveballs 4 inches outside. This is really ridiculous.

  213. forensic says:

    Well, those were two predictably pitiful AB’s.

  214. WhittakerWalt says:

    Thank god we didn’t send up any pinch hitters in that spot.

  215. Conouisseur of New York City's Professional Athletic Clubs says:

    Just keep swinging at offerings clearly out of the strike zone, boys. After all, what didn’t work the last ten times is surely to work now.

    I literally am so disapointed and anguished over this late-April game that I might stop watching it altogether.

  216. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    May as well see what Warren can do.

  217. Anderson Silva says:

    Phelps looks like shit.

  218. Matt says:

    Oh hey, look at that. Phelps AGAIN tries to bust a RHB inside with the 2-seamer, and AGAIN he cheats on it and opens up way early and crushes it.

    Adjustments. Something that a major league pitcher has to make. Something that Phelps seems completely incapable of doing at the moment.

  219. forensic says:

    Geez, 4 walks for Lind???

    Just horrible.

  220. flamingo says:

    Four walks. FOUR.

  221. Robinson Tilapia says:

    With all the negative feelings about Phelps today, I tricked myself into thinking it was him, and not DRob, who had the bad outing yesterday and was trying to build some “well, Joe obviously is trying to build his confidence up after yesterday….” reasoning here, but NO.

    • Mykey says:

      Didn’t he have a rough outing a couple days ago? Maybe I’m misremembering. Yesterday was certainly D-Rob though.

  222. Mykey says:

    Thanks again Phelps. I’ll go enjoy the nice day now.

  223. Anthony says:

    Hey, we took 2.

  224. Robinson Tilapia says:

    David Phelps is going to need Secret Service protection in order to leave this Game Thread.

  225. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Yikes.

    Enough of this already. Give Warren a chance.

  226. Hans Moleman says:

    Is Joe watching the same game I am?

  227. forensic says:

    Well, that should just about do it.

  228. Karl Krawfid says:

    Joe G really punted this one leave that trash Nova in too long.

    • Chilango says:

      Which he seems to do every time. Does he ever update the binder?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      Considering Logan and Phelps would have been the next options, I’m not sure it would have mattered.
      If they actually had solid bullpen depth, Nova likely wouldn’t have been left in.

  229. Conouisseur of New York City's Professional Athletic Clubs says:

    Well, it seems as if all hopes of the Yankees winning this game have all but been extinguished.

  230. Dalek Jeter says:

    Note to Phelps, and Nova: http://www.youtube.com/watch?f.....kZg_ALxEz0

    in this case, Baldwin means “finish AB’s” by close.

  231. Anderson Silva says:

    Really bad game by Girardi. He clearly left Nova and Phelps at least one batter too long. Very weak.

  232. fabrico says:

    wow phelps you fucking suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  233. Eddard says:

    At this point I don’t think you can justify using Phelps in big game situations anymore. He’s a guy you throw out there in a blowout or for an injury to soak up some innings. They should give someone else a chance just like they should give Boesch a chance.

  234. forensic says:

    Imagine how different it might have been if Nova hadn’t be left in clearly too long, or if Logan could actually get a lefty out consistently, or if Joba didn’t have “7th inning only guy” stamped on his forehead…

  235. Matt says:

    Phelps is a starter. He has 4 or 5 average to above-average pitches that he can throw for strikes, but he does not have an overpowering fastball.
    Yet, Girardi uses him as if he is a shutdown reliever who throws 95 mph with a wipeout slider.

    What’s new? The Yankees don’t even know their own pitchers. Joba was always the better starter because he had 3 plus pitches, and Hughes with the dominant fastball and nothing else was always the better reliever. Which roles are they in right now? It’s almost comical.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Four or five average pitches? lol okay

      • Matt says:

        I didn’t think it was that hard to read the 3 words after that. I guess I was wrong.

        He has no real dominant pitch. He gets by with movement and changing speeds. It works well as a starter, but when you go into the pen and only throw 2 or 3 of those pitches and fall into predictable patterns, it’s a different story.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

          You said he had 4 or 5 average to above-average pitches. That was very clear. The three words after don’t change that at all.

          • Matt says:

            Read what Mike posted. It certainly does change it to read 3 words past what he read. I didn’t say he had 4 or 5 average pitches. I said he had 4 or 5 average to ABOVE-average pitches.

            He has no dominant out pitch to use in a situation like that, and hitters have figured out his pattern of going to the two-seam fastball inside on righties every time he is in trouble.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

              I believe Mike was disputing that Phelps has 4-5 pitches that are at least average. That would include above average pitches.

              • Matt says:

                He most certainly has at least 4 pitches that are average. 2-seam fastball, curveball, cutter, and changeup in that order. But none of the pitches is overpowering enough for him to go to it as a reliever when he’s in trouble.

            • Pat D says:

              It seems you’re not getting that Mike disagrees with your assessment that he has 4 to 5 average pitches.

            • Robinson Tilapia says:

              If David Phelps threw 4 to 5 average to ABOVE-average pitches, he’d have made the big leagues a hell of a lot earlier than the age of 25.

            • forensic says:

              I think you’re maybe missing what Mike is saying.

              It seems like you think Mike was saying you’re underrating him.

              I think Mike actually thinks you’re vastly overrating him by giving him that many average pitches.

              If that’s not what you’re thinking, then I have no idea what you’re trying to argue because it makes no sense then.

            • JMK says:

              A guy with “4 to 5 average to ABOVE-average pitches” isn’t a swing starter/longman. That’s a #3 starter. What you said is not supported by reality.

              • Matt says:

                Well Phelps has pitched like a #3-#4 starter in the limited chances that he has had.

                Phelps definitely has that. I’m not overrating him. But I think people are overrating him by saying that those “average to above-average” pitches are all “above-average to plus.” That is most certainly not the case.

                He has maybe one plus pitch. The 2-seamer. All of his other pitches are average or maybe above-average on the breaking ball.

                • Travis L. says:

                  Please for the love of god…give us the link to what dummy said he has pitches (any, let alone 3-4) that are above average to plus. That’s freaking hilarious!

    • mustang says:

      Your comical.

      They are 10-7 won this series and their last 2 with half the team being out, but you go on.

      • Matt says:

        What does their current record have to do with the mishandling of young starting pitchers?

        Oh right, nothing. Nice try.

        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          “What’s new? The Yankees don’t even know their own pitchers. Joba was always the better starter because he had 3 plus pitches, and Hughes with the dominant fastball and nothing else was always the better reliever. Which roles are they in right now? It’s almost comical.”

          That’s fucking ludicrous. Another dipshit who thinks he can do better because he reads DOTF nightly.

          • mustang says:

            He said what???

            LOL

          • Matt says:

            DOTF? What are you even talking about?

            Joba was always the better starter. It was pretty obvious to anyone who watched them pitch. And I would even go as far as to say that Joba was the better starter even with his reduced velocity. Look at the numbers that Joba had in 2009 before they started the Joba Rules. They were better than Hughes, in a much less pitcher friendly year.

            You clearly have selective memory. Look at the actual numbers:

            Joba as a starter: 4.18 ERA, 221.2 IP 227 H 101 BB 206 K
            Hughes as a starter: 4.72 ERA, 592.2 IP 606 H 188 B 475 K

            And Joba’s numbers mostly came in years that had far better hitting than what Hughes did.

        • mustang says:

          Everything if they were losing.

          Please stop your hurting yourself and others your making brush statements of one bad game about a team that is currently being successful overall.

          • Matt says:

            Again, it has nothing to do with their record.

            They have completely mishandled Joba and Phelps in their careers. That will not change whether they win 15 games in a row starting tomorrow or lose 15 games in a row.

            Especially now that Joba is healthy and his velocity is back. It’s such a waste to have him in the pen, and likewise with Phelps whose stuff is not good enough to relieve, but is more than sufficient as a starter.

            • Mike Axisa says:

              I need you to explain how his stuff could be good enough to start but not good enough to relieve. Please think before you reply and stop being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.

              • Matt says:

                Really? You don’t understand how that can be the case? Successful relief pitchers usually have one or two plus pitches that they can go to in tough spots. Phelps does not.

                But there are tons of guys who can be successful as starters by tricking guys with a few average to above-average pitches. Think of guys like Jeff Suppan, Jamie Moyer, etc.

                When you are in situations though like first and third, nobody out, a guy like Phelps is going to have a lot tougher time getting out of that jam without allowing stuff.

                It’s not arguing for the sake of arguing. Although with the kinds of posts that you make, we could certainly make that case.

                • Mike Axisa says:

                  So his stuff isn’t good enough to face a handful of batters out of the bullpen, but it is good enough to turn the lineup over three times? How does that work, exactly?

                  He should be more effective out of the bullpen because he can scrap his two worst pitches and focus on his two best. That is how it has worked for every other pitcher in his the history of baseball.

                  There is nothing special about Phelps. He is a generic fastball/slider/curveball/changeup pitcher who has been overrated because of his versatility and body language. Put him in the rotation and he will be worse than he has been as a reliever because hitters are going to see him more than once and he doesn’t have enough tricks in the bag.

                  • Matt says:

                    I’m not saying he can’t get guys out in the pen. What I’m saying is that he is not ideal for relieving because he pitches to contact.

                    If you come in with runners on base, the contact is going to be more damaging than starting an inning fresh. Over 6 or 7 innings, the results tend to smooth out enough that he can be OK. In one or two inning bursts, the balls in play are not going to converge towards his true talent level.

                  • Matt says:

                    And I know you are going to now point out that Rivera pitches to contact, but that doesn’t change anything because Rivera is not necessarily the kind of guy that you bring in to clean up say bases loaded, 0 outs in a 1 run game.

                    And Rivera can induce very weak contact with his plus plus cutter. Phelps doesn’t have a pitch that can do that except the 2-seamer, but he has fallen into bad patterns in these last few games.

                  • WhittakerWalt says:

                    Exactly. The greatest relief pitcher of all time, Mariano Rivera, couldn’t hack it as a starter. But suddenly David Phelps can?

                • Travis L. says:

                  Jeff Suppan and Jamie Moyer had average to above average pitches? As rookies, right? I never knew them to be anything spectacular…Suppan definitely wasnt special.

              • Matt says:

                Also, if you don’t believe me, look at the Pitch FX data.

                Phelps graded out at positive runs on his 4-seam, 2-seam, slider, and changeup last year, and his changeup was slight negative.

                This year, he has been positive on his 4-seam, slider, and change, and has been getting creamed on his 2-seam and changeup. But that isn’t really that surprising, because that confirms what we have been seeing with him the last few games.

            • mustang says:

              Ok dude we will agree to disagree.

  236. Elan says:

    And that’s three earned runs for Phelps, plus the inherited runners he allowed to score.

  237. Anderson Silva says:

    wow, Ichiro fucking blows

  238. Matt says:

    Ichiro bunting with 2 strikes down 4 runs. That has to be the final straw. He needs to be benched for at least 2 or 3 games to reset him mentally.

    • forensic says:

      That was the only way to get the bat to the zone after the quick pitch.

    • JMK says:

      Did you even watch the play? It doesn’t appear Ichiro wanted to bunt, but the situation forced it. I get the sense that angrily rambling on is just therapeutic for you.

      • Matt says:

        No, I actually didn’t see the play. Thank you for explaining what happened.

        It doesn’t change the fact though that he really screwed up. Quick pitching is part of the game. If you aren’t ready to hit, don’t step into the box.

        The point remains. He needs to be benched. Period. He has been beyond terrible in these games.

        • Dalek Jeter says:

          The point remains. He needs to be benched. Period. He has been beyond terrible in these games since 2010 except for a hot stretch last September.

          fify

          • forensic says:

            I hate when people try to say this, because it’s just not true. He’s had a bunch of acceptable to good months in that time, he’s just also had some terrible ones.

            Boesch has had even fewer good stretches in his whole career, yet people still want to give him PT instead.

            • Dalek Jeter says:

              Also because he’s 12 years younger, and has a much better slugging percentage since he came into the league.

              • Dalek Jeter says:

                Don’t get me wrong, I don’t expect Boesch to be an All Star, but he’s proven in his career that he can be at least what Ichiro is right now but with a little bit of power, and since he came into the league has a much higher upside than Ichiro does.

                • forensic says:

                  He really doesn’t. He’s had 4 good months in a 3 year career. He had one good season his whole time in the minors.

                  I see absolutely nothing in him.

                  • Matt says:

                    But you see more in Ichiro?

                    Ichiro is not the player that he once was. Boesch has produced in the limited playing time that he has had, and provides something that the team needs right now (power).

                    Ichiro had one good month last year. Besides that, he barely had an OBP over .300 and was getting an inordinate number of infield singles just to keep it even that high.

                    • forensic says:

                      Ichiro had 2 good months last year, plus another two arguably acceptable. Boesch is the one who actually only had 1 good month last year.

                      And the team doesn’t need power right now being that they already league the league in homers.

                • Dalek Jeter says:

                  Also, Since 2010(Boesch’s Debut):
                  Boesch: 96.666666666666667 wRC+
                  Ichiro: 93 wRC+

                  Not an insane difference, but obviously one is a bit better than the other.

        • JMK says:

          There are perhaps 10 quick pitches you’ll see all year, maybe fewer. You’re seeking any excuse to bash Ichiro, whether or not the situation merits it.

          (I agree, however, that he should be benched.)

  239. forensic says:

    Heh, 4 runs and Gibbons doesn’t even see the need to bring in the lefty anymore. That’s like an insult saying “You can’t even make this up against a righty.”

  240. JMK says:

    That quick pitch – bush league or not?

    (I say no; the goal is to get the batter out.)

  241. Chilango says:

    Two pen collapses in a row. We are lucky to get out of here winning 2 of 3.

  242. mustang says:

    Its not the bad starting pitching or the bull pen they just should of scored more then 4 runs.

    Damn you average runs per game!!!

    :)

  243. Luis Castillo (Not the one who dropped the ball) says:

    Ichiro is now being just ridiculous.

  244. Anderson Silva says:

    fucking Lawrie. I really dislike this prick.

    • DSF says:

      Agreed. What a douche.

    • JMK says:

      He’s a little intense for my liking, but so what?

      I can think of tons of baseball players whose off-field behavior makes them far more deserving of scorn.

      Until I hear of Lawrie getting a DUI, beating his girlfriend or something else, I just see a guy who cheers when something goes well and hops mad when something goes wrong.

  245. Dalek Jeter says:

    Meh, if we win 2 out of every 3 games the rest of the season I’ll be happy.

    • Pat D says:

      You’ll be happy if they finish with 106-107 wins? And you call yourself a fan?

      • Travis L. says:

        When did the season get extended to 213 games. I missed that part of the new CBA. Pat…what the hell are you talking about? LOL.

        • Travis L. says:

          Oh damn. Just to be clear…I’m going to go online and look up some sort of reading website to help with my dumbass commenting. I’m apparently lost near the intersection of Dumbass Alley and Stupid Lane. Sorry Pat.

  246. mustang says:

    Oh! How I missed the non- emotional , insightful, level-headed baseball knowledge of the losing game threads.

    SHM laundry time.

  247. forensic says:

    Adam Warren has now not pitched in 12 days.

    And only 2 innings in almost 20 days.

    Not surprising since Girardi does this a lot with those kind of guys, but would one appearance kill him???

  248. forensic says:

    When Darren Oliver debuted, his third baseman was three years old.

    Now, his third baseman only acts like he’s three years old.

  249. Eddard says:

    Well, they couldn’t get the sweep but they still took 2/3 on the road against a division rival with a depleted lineup. 3 games above .500 when people thought they’d be lucky to be 3 games under .500. On to Tampa.

    • Chilango says:

      Matt Moore is 3-0, 20K in 18 innings. 1.00 ERA. CC better have lights out control of his 90mph fastball tomorrow.

      • Eddard says:

        Matt Moore has yet to face the likes of Frankie Cervelli and Vernon Wells. And Tampa’s lineup is worse than our depleted one. CC will be just fine.

        • Chilango says:

          Moore has given up 2 runs (both against Balt) in 18 innings. CC needs to be more than fine.

          • Eddard says:

            Who’s going to hit CC in that lineup? They’ve got Longoria and that’s it. Shelley Duncan? Jose Molina? They’re one of the worst lineups in the AL. Matt Moore won’t know what hit him come tomorrow.

      • forensic says:

        I’d be pretty shocked if this team scored more than 3 runs combined off Moore and Price this week. Just bad all around vs. lefties.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Exactly.

    • mustang says:

      LEAVE NOW!!!!

      Your ruining a perfectly good overreacting negative losing game thread with your insight into reality.

      HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!

  250. Eddard says:

    Hafner bunting, he should have just laid his bat on the ground and stood there taking pitches until he got struck out.

  251. forensic says:

    At least the Royals briefly decided to finally show up this weekend, and the Dodgers are trying.

    Unfortunately the A’s didn’t feel like traveling east and instead started to get the Rays going just in time for the Yankees to have to face them.

  252. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Annoying game, but whatever. I’ll take two of three anytime.

  253. Eddard says:

    Matt Moore and David Price, blah blah blah. We’ll throw our own two lefties against them and see how their sorry excuse for a lineup does. The lineup the Yankees threw out there today is still better than the Rays lineup.

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