Jun
17

Monday Night Open Thread

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(Jeff Gross/Getty)

Most off-days stink, but I think I will enjoy this one just as much as the players. The Yankees have been brutal for a few weeks now, but especially the last week in particular. Even yesterday’s win was exhausting. This is a good night to relax and forget all about baseball for a few hours.

Here is your open thread for the night. The Mets are playing the Braves (Gee vs. Hudson), the Cubs and Cardinals will be on ESPN (Wood vs. Miller), plus Game Three of the Stanley Cup Finals will be on as well. You folks know how these things work by now, so have at it.

Categories : Open Thread

117 Comments»

  1. trr says:

    In before Eddard.
    Win!

  2. kenthadley says:

    Randy Ruiz….uh huh. The Savior.

  3. forensic says:

    On today’s episode of “As the Fantasy Team turns”, forensic is offered Aramis Ramirez and David Phelps for James Loney and Michael Pineda.

    The only other 3B on his team is Beltre, and he has plenty of other 1B (and wouldn’t mind trading Loney as his numbers are really dropping), but he has a serious bias toward liking Phelps and doesn’t know if that’s affecting his view of the trade (he’s also concerned he may lose starts when Pineda is ready to go).

    Who knows how this episode should end?

    :-) (just trying to mix it up a bit)

    • jjyank says:

      Make the trade! James Loney is…well, James Loney. And I’m as optimistic as anyone about Pineda, but he’s still on the DL. Unless this is a keeper league, that seems like a no-brainer to me.

      • forensic says:

        It is a keeper league. Though, I guess an argument could be made that 3 of the 4 players in the trade are potential keepers going into next season (though not necessarily great keepers).

        • jjyank says:

          That does make it a tougher decision. In my opinion, Ramirez > Loney. So I guess it comes down to this: Do you think Phelps can keep this up, and do you think Pineda can be who he was before?

          • forensic says:

            Yeah, that’s where the bias toward Phelps is making it tougher.

            I also just picked up Montero and stashed him in one of my NA spots. I wonder if it’d be too weird for Pineda and him to be on the same team. :-)

            • jjyank says:

              Aw, you get NA spots? That’s nice.

              Heh that would be weird. And kinda cool, I suppose.

              • forensic says:

                There are keeper leagues without NA spots? Is it just a free-for-all race for prospects when they get called up then?

                • jjyank says:

                  Well I’ve never done a keeper league. We just go year-to-year in my league. Didn’t realize that NA was a standard there.

                  • forensic says:

                    Ah, I thought some of the RAB leagues were keeper leagues.

                    This is my first time in a keeper league (the league’s been going for many years but I just took over this team), but it seems like you would have to have NA spots in this kind of league.

                    • jjyank says:

                      Makes sense.

                      I’m not in an RAB league. I’m in a league with a few college buddies, and a few of their family members, that just happens to have added two other RAB posters this year.

                    • forensic says:

                      Oh, my bad, I thought that was an RAB league.

                    • MannyGeee says:

                      It’s slowly becoming a RAB league…

                      As far as the trade goes, Loney kinda sucks right now, and I am willing to bet you can find someone on your waiver wire that will roughly give you what Loney will for the rest of the season. His regression back to the mean is going to be a dead cat bounce.

                      The Phelps/Pineda dynamic is tough to read, but there is still a non zero chance Pineda doesn’t come right back up…. So these two guys are a wash.

                      Bottom line, Aramis is better than Loney. Pull the trigger.

                    • forensic says:

                      I did just accept the trade right before you commented Manny. Glad you didn’t disagree with JJ on it. :-)

  4. Darren says:

    Anyone know how to get Legends seats without paying $900+ per ticket?

    I remember when the StubHub brouhaha arose a few months ago, there were all these stories about how people were people waaay below face value for Legends seats. I would love to see The Return of Donnie Baseball tomorrow and would be willing to splurge for an amaizng seat near the Dodgers dugout to say thanks to the Cap’n.

  5. Get Phelps Up says:

    So I just found out that I used to live in the same apartment building in Atlanta as David Justice did when he played for the Braves (I’m guessing it was just where he lived during the season). I was a just little kid at the time so I wouldn’t have appreciated it then, but now I think that’s pretty cool.

  6. forensic says:

    In the span of one inning, Miguel Cabrera and Chris Davis both just homered to almost the same exact spot in RCF in Comerica.

    Of course, that means Cabrera went the other way which is more impressive, but still, that’s pretty cool.

    But, anytime Davis wants to stop hitting like this would be fine.

  7. forensic says:

    The Indians are trying to be the Yankees. Bases loaded, one out, Aviles pops out to the catcher (fantasy team fail…) and Kipnis strikes out.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Cashman failed.

    • MannyGeee says:

      Having Aviles on your fantasy team was a fantasy fail on its own…

      • forensic says:

        He’s just a brief fill-in. Everth Cabrera is out hurt for a few days and one of my other middle infielders wasn’t playing either, so he’s just keeping a spot warm for a couple of days.

        • MannyGeee says:

          Not mad at that. I looked at him when Tulo went down, ended up taking Rutlidge instead show has done nothing for me but not play on the days I started him (like tonight, for example)…

          • FIPster Doofus says:

            That really pissed me off tonight. Rutledge hits righties semi-respectably, Toronto had a righty on the mound, and he sat anyway. Fuck off, Tracy.

  8. SDB says:

    So who else grabbed Wil Myers for their fantasy teams?

    • MannyGeee says:

      I am rookie packed this season. No Myers, but I have Jose Fernandez & Profar and had Cingani, and I was dangerously close to grabbing Rendon too.

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      Grabbing Trout and Harper (and flipping Bryce for Konerko & Cespedes) is the biggest reason I went 19-1 last season.

      It still irks me that I didn’t win my league. The guy who knocked me out was the luckiest SOB I’ve ever dealt with, especially since only four weeks prior my team had absolutely bludgeoned his.

      Damn. Nothing really sucks more than a hard season’s work defeated by bad luck. Kinda lets us know how athletes feel at times.

  9. Crime Dog says:

    So, what the heck happens when/if Tex goes on the DL? The only healthy hitters on the 40 man right now that arent on the big league club are Flores (not coming up) and Almonte (probably not either). CoJo and Mesa are on the Minor League DL I believe. Would they bring up Gonzalez, Dan Johnson, or someone else entirely?

  10. forensic says:

    MLB Tonight is now bringing on Chris Rose, Kevin Millar, and Dan Plesac on for awhile.

    Guess it’s time to find something else to watch. It’s amazing how many terrible ‘analysts’ they employ there.

    • jjyank says:

      *vomits*

      I watch MLBN a lot (it’s really great for background noise and secondary visuals) but Intentional Talk, with Millar and Rose, is the worst thing ever.

    • Jacob the OG says:

      After having only BBTN over the years I can totally deal with MLBTN announcers.

      • jjyank says:

        This is true. MLBN >>>> BBTN.

        At least Brian Kenney shows up sometimes to shut Harold Reynolds’ dirty mouth.

        • The Doctor says:

          MLB Now is high entertainment. It’s just an hour of Kenny making Reynolds look like an idiot and Harold being completely oblivious to just how stupid he sounds.

  11. Get Phelps Up says:

    So did anyone else realize that the Orioles have the 2nd worst ERA/FIP in baseball behind only the Astros? Hopefully that catches up with them at some point.

  12. Jacob the OG says:

    Just going to throw it out there to see what comes up.

    Jesse Crain…

    that is all.

    • Crime Dog says:

      Eh, I mean bullpen help is the last thing the team needs. If it was part of a bigger trade where the Yankees got a bat, I would be fine with it. He would fit in well behind DRob in the relief chain. I just don’t see a big need for it.

      • Jacob the OG says:

        Yeah, that is why I just threw his name out instead of demanding we get him, wanted how everyone else thought about the subject.

        • Crime Dog says:

          There’s so few realistic trade targets that actually fit what the Yankees need. I feel like corner guys are usually the most available, but it doesn’t seem that way this year.

          • Jacob the OG says:

            Yeah it is either the yanks match up for the other team or the other team matches up for the yanks

    • MannyGeee says:

      Not a bad arm, and in honesty any other year he’s the target… But I agree with others, we need everything but bullpen help.

  13. I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

    Stupid question guys: Lets say that the Yanks don’t lock up an extension with Cano and instead sign him as a free agent in the offseason. Do the Yankees therefore lose their first round pick next year?

    On a similar note, I know they got rid of the Type A and Type B free agent classifications, so does that mean the signing of ANY free agent will cause a team to lose its draft pick?

    That to me wouldn’t make any sense, if the free agent isn’t particularly good but fits the teams needs, why should the team have to give up a draft pick.

    • FEED.ME.MORE! says:

      Q1) You can’t lose the draft pick for signing your own player.

      Q2) Only players that are offered the qualifying offer (The average of the top 125 salaries in MLB) come with draft pick compensation. Almost like a franchise tag in football.

    • Jacob the OG says:

      First question: No

      Second: Those that were eligible for type A and B are grouped into one and now everything else is still the same. (only lose if offered qualifying offer and it is declined)

    • Get Phelps Up says:

      Only FA’s who their teams offer a $13M or so qualifying offer and they decline it would cost a draft pick. The Yanks wouldn’t lose their own pick for Cano. (or Granderson or Hughes or Kuroda)

    • jjyank says:

      1. No. You can’t lose a pick on a re-sign.

      2. Only players that have been offered a QA (qualifying offer, which is a one year deal that changes in amount depending on the average top salaries) and decline can net a draft pick.

    • I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

      Ah okay, makes sense now. Thanks all!

  14. forensic says:

    Miguel Cabrera is hitting .487 with RISP.

    Might be time to find a higher league for him.

  15. Get Phelps Up says:

    I’m happy to see that Jake Arrieta still sucks.

  16. Wheels says:

    I’m glad I missed the 9th inning yesterday, I thought the game was in the bag.

  17. MannyGeee says:

    I really wished the MLS didn’t suck. It’s fun having local soccer to go see, but this style of soccer is aggressively mediocre.

    • jjyank says:

      I’m 2 metro stops from RFK Stadium (DC United). Should I bother?

      • MannyGeee says:

        If you enjoy soccer, then it’s worth the 3.25 in subway and $15 ticket just to experience the game live. But when you watch it on TV, it’s like watching an over 40 league your uncle plays in.

  18. forensic says:

    I’m up 14-0 so far in my fantasy matchup. Is there any way to end the week right now?

  19. Get Phelps Up says:

    Orioles lose so now the Yanks are tied for 2nd place in the loss column.

  20. Cuso says:

    Hey! Did you know that an anagram for Travis Hacker is “After Varnish?”

    This thing has legs…..

    :D

  21. Cuso says:

    HEY! did you know an anagram for Austin Romine is “Miniature Son?”

    Kevin would be so proud……

  22. Cuso says:

    Hey! Did you know an anagrams for Randy Levine is “Naively Nerd?”

    Yep…

  23. forensic says:

    Watching Papelbon blow saves NEVER gets old.

  24. Cuso says:

    Hey! Did you know an anagrams for Hank Steinbrenner is “Snake Brethren Inn?”

    Maybe you’d have to be his brother, but I’d never stay there.

  25. Mickey Scheister says:

    I just attended a Daniel Tosh show, dude is hilarious in person without censors.

  26. nycsportzfan says:

    Anyone think the White Sox are gonna shoop Alex Rios and if they are, would the yanks show intrest? It’s probably something were trying to stay away from as we rebuild but it would help tremendously for this yr and next.

    Even if not us, think he’ll be shopped?

    • The Doctor says:

      He’s probably just as likely to come over and be the worst player in the league as he is to be a major upgrade.

      Pass.

      • nycsportzfan says:

        Rios has hit really solidly as a white sox player. Hes pretty much only had 2bad seasons since 2005. For the most part hes a righty who offers some power, good overall hitting abiliy, some speed, and a middle of the order bat who can absoulutley drive runs in with his blend of power and speed.

    • forensic says:

      Rios and Wells on the same team again? That seems like it would be similar to:…

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyaLZHiJJnE

      • Pat D says:

        You do remember they’ve been teammates before, right?

        • forensic says:

          Hence the word ‘again’. They were on the same team, signed huge contracts, and went to shit with that team begging anyone to take them off their hands…

          • Pat D says:

            Ah, shit. Sorry, didn’t read carefully enough.

            Distracted by this paper I’m supposed to be writing to hand in tomorrow and haven’t started yet.

      • nycsportzfan says:

        They also had a diffrent cast around them when they were teammates. I really don’t care what they did together before as I don’t even think Wells deserves mentioning as hes just a guy waiting to be released once anny kinda talent steps up, which could very well be Alex Rios in this scenario.

        Rios right handed thump and ability to hit would be greatly appreciated this yr, and when you add Granderson, Arod, Jeter,Nunez, Tex, and Cervelli to Gardner, Rios, and Cano, you got yourself a solid enough offense, that you could make a real push for the postseason without completely dismantling the farm system.

        Its just a idea though. Its nothing i thought about to deeply.

        • MannyGeee says:

          All these words you have put together to defend your case even AFTER everyone was like ” nah, pass” makes me believe that you did in fact think about it too deeply.

          In all honesty, Rios in and of himself would have been a flyer I would have signed up for, but him AND Wells, that a lot of money on a whole lot of maybe.

          I too would pass.

  27. forensic says:

    The Mets and Braves are just starting their game now after a 4 hour rain delay. They then still have a day/night double-header scheduled tomorrow.

    So, they’ll basically play three games in less than 24 hours. That’s a lot of baseball.

  28. PronxIsVernon says:

    Realize this may not be the most appropriate place to ask, but I’m traveling to the Brooklyn Academy of Music tom. from penn station– anyone know what’s the fastest way to get there via subway?

    • vicki says:

      i would take the blue line (ACE) to west 4th and then grab the B or D to dekalb, because those are the lines i’m most familiar with. i do know people who take the LIRR to the BAM, and it is possible to pick it up at penn station.

      you’re going to see neil gaiman?

      • Mandy Stankiewicz says:

        That’s prob the best route. You can take the A/C train from Penn to Fulton Street, although dekalb drops you closer, it’s just a few more blocks to walk without a transfer. But the transfer at W4 is really easy–you just walk down one level.

  29. forensic says:

    So, Dillon Gee has a shutout through 8 innings of a 1-0 game and Terry Collins sticks with him in the 9th instead of going to Parnell. He gets the first guy to groundout, then gives up a single. This brings Freddie Freeman to the plate who already has 2 hits against him and had the best swings of anyone all night.

    Collins still stays with Gee and, boom, there goes a 2-run homer and the Mets lose.

    I think Collins is going to have to answer some questions about that in the postgame…

    • I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

      That is actually hilarious. Meanwhile Panda still leads all NL third basemen for the starting position in the ASG. If it weren’t for that fluke of a sweep in the subway series their season would be 100% miserable.

  30. Travis L. says:

    Pinstripe Bible is reporting that Gosuke Katoh signed a deal with the Yankees…anyone know anything more about this. That’s all they had.

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