Aug
01

Thursday Night Open Thread

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For the second time in four days, the Yankees are off tonight. That Los Angeles to San Diego trip is pretty brutal, assuming they’re traveling by rickshaw. In all seriousness though, off-days are precious this time of year. The Yankees need as much rest as they can get, especially David Robertson and Mariano Rivera at the back of the bullpen. Those are two are going to be insanely important down the stretch. They have to protect every lead that comes their way these next two months.

Anyway, here is your open thread for the night. The fifth game of that huge Cardinals-Pirates series will air on MLB Network (Kelly vs. Morton) — Pittsburgh has won the first four games of the series and are currently 2.5 games up in the NL Central — and that’s really it. Thankfully, that’s an awesome game. Talk about it or anything else here. Enjoy.

Categories : Open Thread
  • SDB

    GO FELIX!

    • vicki

      (and jordan lyles)

      • SDB

        yes, and go Houston offense, while we’re at it!

  • Kevin G.

    Cano’s BB pace keeps going down and down. Looks like the hat will be spared of Ben’s lower intestine.

    • trr

      There’s always hope!

      • vicki

        ya gotta believe.

  • The Real Greg

    The fact that Judge and Clarkin have yet to be seen speaks volumes about the Yankees developing prospects.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      How?

      • The Real Greg

        Because it just seems so inept that you sign a draft pick and don’t get them out there to start developing. Which is the exact way to describe their developing system. Inept.

        • Bo Knows

          Do you honestly think Clarkin is just sitting somewhere and not training, or playing in games? It honestly doesn’t matter at this point whether he pitches in GCL games or against players in ExST. Considering at this level the talent isn’t much different.

          Depending on what the Yankees do, he’ll probably pitch in SS or Charleston.

          • Bo Knows

            next year.

    • forensic

      I could be wrong, but I thought I remember someone saying Clarkin was injured.

      • The Real Greg

        I think there was some confusion about that. He was on the DL but it really wasn’t said for what.

    • Bo Knows

      he’s gonna sure miss those 15 innings or so.

      Here’s how all the prep pitchers drafted in the first round have done so far in the case of innings

      Trey Ball: 2/3rd’s of an inning
      Hunter Harvey: 6 innings
      Rob Kaminsky: 7innings
      Kohl Stewart: 10 innings

      you get the point

      • The Real Greg

        Every little bit helps.

        • Bo Knows

          Your really approaching troll status Greg, 15 innings at best in a rookie ball league isn’t going to make a lick of difference, working with pro-coaches and trainers are going to play a bigger part than anything at this stage.

          • The Real Greg

            Well the Yankees are going to need these draft picks to produce because that is the way of baseball right now so I would like to see everything by the book. Nothing out of the ordinary.

            • Bo Knows

              none of this is out of the ordinary, countless MLB/MILB players, current, former, and other didn’t play in a real game until the following year.

        • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

          How does “every little bit help” translate into “speaks volumes”? Did you mean “extremely small volumes”?

          • The Real Greg

            No you misunderstood. The fact that he and Judge are not playing speaks volumes. The length of playing has nothing to do with it.

            • Bo Knows

              and how do you know they aren’t playing, just because they aren’t in rookie ball games means nothing. It’s not unusual, hell its a very common practice for prospects not to do anything but practice, train and play inter-squad games in the season they were drafted before hitting going to more advanced leagues.

              • The Real Greg

                This is the Computer age. I think we would have heard even the smallest peep.

                • Bo Knows

                  Really? Do you honestly think the yankees are going to hold a press release every time the guys at the Tampa complex train or play inter squad?

                  Question; how much have we heard about Banuelos’ rehab? Nothing right? that doesn’t mean he’s been sitting on his ass eating bon bon’s

            • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

              I don’t misunderstand. I just think you’re wrong. Delaying recently drafted players by 15 innings of rookie ball, either due to injury, incompetence, or any other factors, does not speak volumes about their development prospects. It says almost nothing about them.

              • vicki

                people can’t troll you if you don’t let them.

  • The Real Greg

    Bud Norris in his debut against his old team gives up a homer to Brett Wallace to give the ‘Stros a 1-0 lead.

    • vicki

      embedded lastro?

  • forensic

    Roberto Alomar, who played a grand total of three seasons in Baltimore, is being inducted into the Orioles Hall of Fame.

    That makes no sense at all.

    • The Real Greg

      Maybe he was asked for a saliva sample and that’s being put in.

    • vicki

      i kind of get it. they were great years for him and great years for them. the last time they were relevant before last season. but yeah. a stretch.

    • Tom

      It would have been disrespectful to Flanny not to.

    • Pat D

      It’s just a way for them to hitch themselves to a guy who’s in the Baseball HOF.

  • Joey

    Hoping Arod doesn’t take any plea deal, unless that involves him at least sitting out all of next season too… Would really help out with that 189 million dollar goal, as Buck said.

  • RetroRob

    The point made in this article makes sense. Why would the Phillies move Young in a couple weeks in a waiver deal when they seemed to have little interest in moving him now? A six-week rental? His value should be even less.

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/ml.....ource-says

  • thundergoat

    Who would say no in this trade

    Texas Gets: Cano

    Marlins Get: Perez, Profar, Sanchez, Williams, and a future (texas) draft pick

    Yankees Get: Stanton

    a few friends and i were talking about this yesterday. i think it’s an interesting trade

    • Bo Knows

      Texas and NY say no…Marlins would probably do it in a heartbeat

    • Joey

      uh. Texas.

    • Dan in Athens

      Texas and MLB. Why would Texas do that for a rental at a position they already have covered? Also, you cannot trade draft picks in MLB.

    • RetroRob

      Texas.

    • Oy

      Texas giving up Profar for two months of Cano is almost as bad as Carpenter and Taveras for Cano.

    • Pseudoyanks

      Did they change the rule? I didn’t think you could trade future draft picks.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Only Miami says yes.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores

    I cannot BELIEVE I just learned that the Cosmos are coming back. How could I have missed this?

    I am so pumped.

    • Betty Lizard

      I have a feeling you’re not talking about the remake of the Carl Sagan series . . . .

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        Not even close. NY Cosmos.

  • Alkaline

    For Cashman’s Mistress (I read some of the threads and yikes):

    http://mimiandeunice.com/wp-co.....15;199.png

  • Alkaline

    And pretty telling that there are only 21 comments in the post about Cashman making two separate offers for Young and didn’t even get a chance about Ruiz.

  • Alkaline

    I didn’t really get to weigh in on the trade deadline and I hate to beat a dead horse, but I prefer no move than a move for the sake of making a move. Like someone said, the fact that Ruiz, Young, Morse, etc. weren’t moved at all speaks volumes about the trade deadline. Too many people playing armchair GM.

    I predicted a 92 win team either before the season or right after it started (banking on the fact that so many players would not only be injured, but re-injured) and it was extremely optimistic. However, this team still has a chance. There’s a chance they may shit the bed, but an equal chance they could get into playoffs.

    Lastly, will people stop saying Cano is lazy, etc. with his at bats. Anyone who says he shuts down for 2-3 weeks hacking at anything has NOT played baseball at a competitive level. Everyone goes through hot streaks and cold streaks (hence why you have…an average of the two).

    At times you press, at times your mechanics get off a bit, at times you face a pitcher who has your number for whatever reason. And at times the ball looks like a beach ball coming in. Being offbalance just a tad could affect your swing at a pitch; the smallest movement affects how you make contact. That’s baseball. That’s the nature of the game. Pick up a physiology/anatomy book.

  • Dale Mohorcic

    Heading down to Petco for the Saturday and Sunday games. I usually only get to see the Yanks on their Anaheim trips, so this is a real bonus for me, though I recall how much late west coast games sucked when I was back in NY.

    • forensic

      Sounds like RAB will have a good presence at Petco this weekend. Hopefully the Yanks make it pay off for us.

  • vicki

    henry blanco. lol @ dempster.

    • forensic

      Love how quiet Fenway is now.

  • Selig’s BanHammer (Temporarily Not Bob Buttons)

    Random NFL thought: Who’s worse, Gilbride or Fewell?

    • vicki

      buddy ryan would say kevin killsdrives. as a giants fan i’d say it’s pretty close; they both make me nuts.

      pretty psyched to open the season at our dallas facilities though.

      • Selig’s BanHammer (Temporarily Not Bob Buttons)

        kinda makes me glad im out of market so i dont suffer as often.

    • Pat D

      I’d say Fewell right now. He’s got a lot more riding on this season than Gilbride.

      Gilbride’s playcalling still gets on my nerves from time to time, but the defense was so fucking awful last year. No pass rush, couldn’t get off the field, couldn’t generate turnovers. Just beyond terrible and, this is going to make me sound like a privileged Giants fan, fucking unacceptable considering the history of the team.

      • Selig’s BanHammer (Temporarily Not Bob Buttons)

        Gilbride doesn’t piss me off that much thanks to the fact that he has great talent on the offense. Fewell makes me cringe because defense underperforms too much.

        • Pat D

          Yes, I have felt the defense doesn’t perform to its talent a lot, most notably last year.

      • vicki

        fair. defense ranked 31st in the league 2012. un-giants-like.

  • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

    Darvish is within striking distance of 20 K’s tonight. Probably too many pitches, though. 111 through 7 innings. And he’d need to K 6 in the last 2 innings.

    • Pat D

      So he would have had to strike out everyone in the last two innings? Don’t think I’d classify that as “striking distance.”

  • SDB

    Papsmear blows another save!

    • forensic

      And Romo is doing his best to match him.

      • SDB

        That was quite the Houdini act there.

      • Selig’s BanHammer (Temporarily Not Bob Buttons)

        For a second I thought “Cowboys ain’t playing today!”

  • vicki

    hoes went deep on tommy hunter. pretty cool.

    • forensic

      Good. The O’s radio guys call him Tommy The Hunter which really bugs me for some reason.

      • vicki

        bad information, though, sorry. he grounded out to score grossman.

  • forensic

    Geez Wilhelmsen, come on. Finish it off.

    • SDB

      Tying run on base now. What the hell?

    • forensic

      And now their acting manager doesn’t even know how to point with the correct arm for a reliever. And right away it costs them as the Red Sox now have the tying run on base. And now the tying run is in scoring position with no outs.

      This is pitiful.

      • SDB

        Tied. FFS.

  • forensic

    Screw you, Mariners.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Go to fucking hell, Mariners.

  • OldYanksFan

    UN FUCKING BELIEVABLE!

  • forensic

    I think Don Orsillo just had a heart attack with that win.

  • Tom

    How the hell do you point to the wrong arm and bring in the wrong pitcher in the 9th inning?

    Also I don’t understand why there is even a rule on that – they should be able to make any signal they want to bring in whoever they want.

    • Selig’s BanHammer (Temporarily Not Bob Buttons)

      That’d be awesome if you do crotch drumming to signal Nathan in.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Words cannot describe just how much I fucking hate this Red Sox team.

    • SDB

      I’m with you, but I hate the Mariners more right now.

      • Kramerica Industries

        11 walk-off wins for those assholes. It’s fucking amazing. So much shit has gone their way this season, aside from the Buchholz injury. I would fucking kill for a fraction of the luck they’ve had, on and off the field.

        • forensic

          It’s not even just this season. It stretches back to the Dodgers giving them the biggest bailout in the history of the world last August.

        • Dave

          Other than Buchholz, and Andrew Bailey, and Andrew Miller, and Franklin Morales, and Joel Hanrahan… But other than those players they’ve been really lucky!

          • forensic

            Frankly, the way most of those guys were pitching it probably is lucky for them that they’re hurt.

            • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

              You actually make a good point.

              I think people are analyzing poor Kramerica too much tonight. He’s frustrated. Come on dude, let it all out.

          • Steve

            Don’t forget David Ross, Middlebrooks being terrible and demoted to AAA and Ortiz missing the first 3 weeks

        • Mike

          Arod being suspended is kinda lucky

  • SDB

    Go fuck yourselves, Mariners.

  • Pat D

    Wow, Cardinals getting some needed revenge tonight.

    And I’m glad to see the old Fenway adage being proven again tonight.

    Oh, wait…no, I’m not.

  • vicki

    shame on you, seattle bullpen.

  • forensic

    Well, at least Josh Johnson still sucks. I actually thought he was going to be the best of the guys they got from Miami, when healthy at least. But, now he’s got an ERA of almost 6.50. That’s insane.

    • Tom

      I’m curious to see if they give him a qualifying offer.

      Some Blue Jay fans I know were saying they are glad they didn’t trade him because they’ll get a comp pick… I’m not so sure they give him a QO

  • Kramerica Industries

    The fucking Mariners lost THREE games to the Red Sox where they led by 4 runs or more at some point in the game. That is so fucking horrible I can’t even begin to describe it.

    Fuck off, assholes. And fuck off, chowderheads. When one of the cloves on the four-leaf clover breaks off, so will the Red Sox. May not happen to the playoffs, but at this point, the only thing I’m hoping for is that this group of schmucks falls apart in grand fashion in the playoffs.

    • forensic

      Don’t hold back, tell us how you really feel.

    • Tom

      Did you not see the last M’s /Red Sox series? This is kind of par for the course.

      The Mariners scored I think 30 runs in 4 games and went 1-3

      If the Red Sox make the playoffs they might vote a playoff share for the M’s team

      • Jealous Much?

        Yes because clutch hitting and great team chemistry aren’t important in the playoffs. Cue the tired 27 rejoinder. Those days are over but if you want to talk championships the Celtics winning percentage of championships per year blows the Yankees away.

        • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

          This…doesn’t work remotely as a response?

          • jealous much?

            Supposed to have been a reply to Kramerica. It looks really stupid otherwise.

  • Tom

    (from MLB Network)

    Joel Sherman reporting ARod plans to appeal any suspension. And MLB will pursue lifetime ban unless he settles.

    • Deathstroke Heathcott

      The game of suspension chicken continues…

  • vicki

    holy cats, paco gave up a homer to lefty anthony rizzo. we broke him.

    • forensic

      First Broxton, now him. The Dodgers may not invite the Yankees back anymore.

  • forensic

    Heh, Melky just had one of those ‘throws’ where the ball ends up going backwards.

    • Tom

      Remember when the Melky signing was hailed as a great signing?(especially in the SABR community where an Alex A bowel movement would be spun into a good move and him exploiting some market inefficiency)

      2013 = -0.8 fWAR, .683 OPS for the bargain price of $8mil
      2014 = only owed another $8mil

      Man a lot of AA deals are no longer looking as good as they once were thought to be.

      • Pat D

        Don’t go saying this. DI will think that makes it easy for us to get him back on the cheap.

        • forensic

          It could be a package deal with Josh Johnson.

          What could possibly go wrong?

          • vicki

            mark buehrle is only owed $37M for the next two years!

            • forensic

              Speaking of which, how the hell does he have a current streak of 20 consecutive scoreless innings??? That’s just wrong.

  • The Real Greg

    Red Sox have that ’09 Yankees magic going for them right now.

    • Pat D

      Blasphemy, sir! Recant your evil, heretic words or face the pain of death!

    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

      You shut your whore mouth.