Sep
08

Game 143: Just Win

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Nothing that happens this afternoon will erase with ass-whooping the Yankees have taken these last three days. The only positives to take are 1) the Rays keep losing and are still only three games up for the second wildcard spot in the loss column, and 2) the Bombers did score at least eight runs in each of the last three games. They just need someone to actually get a few outs without giving up monster homers and putting two guys on base each inning. Here’s the lineup that will face left-hander Jon Lester:

  1. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  2. DH Vernon Wells
  3. LF Alfonso Soriano
  4. 2B Robinson Cano
  5. 3B Alex Rodriguez
  6. 1B Mark Reynolds
  7. CF Curtis Granderson
  8. SS Eduardo Nunez
  9. C Austin Romine

And on the mound is right-hander Hiroki Kuroda. If there was ever a time to get over that wall, this is it.

Gorgeous weather in New York today with no rain expected. Perfect baseball weather. First pitch is scheduled for 1:05pm ET and can be seen on YES locally and TBS nationally. Enjoy, or at least try to.

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184 Comments»

  1. JGYank says:

    Jeter had to be taken out of the lineup when we are facing a lefty of course. Couldn’t of timed it worse. Switching him and Wells would have made the lineup so much better. On a side note Ichiro finally gets to take advantage of his reverse platoon split while Gardy gets the day off. Good to see Romine starting despite his recent screw ups.

  2. Winter says:

    Does anyone know who’s in the TBS booth?

  3. Eddard says:

    After the pitching staff gives up double digit runs today the New York massacre will be complete. Just a devastating series that should get Cashman and Girardi fired, we can only hope. Season is over so might as well shut down Jeter, Robertson, Kelley, et al.

  4. Winter says:

    Looks like they replaced Mike Napoli with the only player on their team with an even uglier beard.

  5. YankeeFan says:

    Over/Under the # of cross-ups for Stewart today? I’ll set it at 2.5. Seriously though the amount of cross-ups this late in the season is inexcusable.

  6. JGYank says:

    Here we go again.

  7. trr says:

    losing already?

  8. 12 comments in a Yankees/Red Sox thread that’s been up for an hour.

    Yes, the fact that football is back should be duly noted, but I think the great many of us are using this piss poor pitching as a means to justify skipping these games right now.

    • JGYank says:

      Yeah I’m not actually watching just keeping track of it on gameday. Get too frustrated watching.

    • Winter says:

      I don’t think it’s an excuse. I’m guessing people are skipping today because of the pitching.

      Also Kuroda’s pitch count is already over 50. Shades of game 1.

    • RetroRob says:

      These last three games have been brutal, and I missed the first two. I can totally see a lot of Yankee fans sitting this one out.

  9. JGYank says:

    So… which team do you guys think gets best record in the NL? I think it’s between the Cards and Dodgers. They are the two best teams even though Atlanta has the best record in the NL. It probably will be the RS in the AL or maybe Detroit if they get hot.

    • Winter says:

      I think it’s going to be the Dodgers. They have been simply unbelievable.

      • JGYank says:

        Yeah definitely have the big names and talent to do so. Kershaw and Greinke is a great one two punch. Cards are really good as well. I think the Pirates are kind of overrated despite being so successful this year. Their ace is arguably Burnett.

        • Winter says:

          Don’t forget Liriano doing his best 2006 impression.

          • JGYank says:

            True but I think the Reds and Cards both have more talent. Pirates offense is McCutchen and a couple other guys. I see them winning the 2nd WC.

            • Winter says:

              Starling Marte and Pedro Alvarez are no slouches, either. I think everything’s a tossup in the NL Central/WC.

              • JGYank says:

                Those are the couple other guys. Who else do they have offensively? Walker and Morneau? Their run differential is only +46. But the playoff picture is clear the only thing left to find out is seeding and who wins the 2 WCs. Love how the AL is anything but settled.

  10. RetroRob says:

    Really? Reynolds and a bunt? I agree that he had to call that himself, although why who knows.

  11. Winter says:

    And that’s why Mark Reynolds shouldn’t bunt. I don’t know if he was on his own or if that came from the dugout, but either way it was a bad idea.

  12. NY2FanMaynard says:

    Living in Massachusetts… Have to watch ithe game on NESN. So sad.

  13. WhittakerWalt says:

    OMG Suzyn just said that Jonny Gomes is a valuable guy to have on your team because “he’s great with kids.”

    I HOPE YOU’RE PAYING ATTENTION, CASHMAN.

  14. JGYank says:

    Kuroda has to go deep in this game and he isn’t doing well pitch count wise.

  15. JGYank says:

    Who is available out of the pen? Mo, Betances, Cabral, and who else? Warren? Joba?

  16. JGYank says:

    And that is the only way you will ever see Stewart ever get on base.

  17. JGYank says:

    Maybe, just maybe we could have a pitchers duel today.

  18. NY2FanMaynard says:

    So many empty seats.

  19. Wheels says:

    Pretty impressive drive by Geno Smith.

  20. NY2FanMaynard says:

    Much better than a bunt!

  21. Winter says:

    Isn’t that much more fun than bunting, Mark?

  22. Winter says:

    105 pitches through five. Does Kuroda pitch the sixth?

  23. Winter says:

    Chris Stewart! 1 for his last 1!

  24. ropeadope says:

    Two scorched base hits … back to back!

  25. NY2FanMaynard says:

    Game of inches. Nice the breaks are going the Yankees way. C’mon Sori get a hit!

  26. JGYank says:

    Lester is really unlucky. Three bloop hits to 3 really bad hitters.

  27. nsalem says:

    Today is National Grandparents Day and National BABIP Day

  28. nsalem says:

    Just don’t hit a bullet into a DP Sori.

  29. The Thumb says:

    Is anyone else with Fios having trouble turning on the game on TBS?

  30. JGYank says:

    Cano is awesome. 2 run double against a lefty. He is going to get PAID.

  31. Meeks54 says:

    Whatever contract Cano wants they better give it to him next year.

    • D$1184 says:

      Who is going to bid against them? Dodgers hinted that they were out. Toronto? New York BETTER be able to out-bid them–and I don’t see them spending big after picking up all those players from the Marlins and having nothing but a fifth place finish to show for it.

      • Mikhel says:

        Dodgers and Rangers could bid for them, Rangers know they have two valuable assets in their young players who are worth each of them a good pitcher.

        They could trade Andrus, move Profar to SS and sign Canó. They could trade Profar and sign Canó. Maybe with a change of venue he’ll no longer be a streaky hitter whose BA drops significantly (0.030 average points) whenever he has runners in scoring position, he is at his best when the Yanks are already winning… two outs and RISP? his batting average drops 0.050 average points (with RISP and RISP+2outs he has the worst drop in performance in all MLB in the past 40 years).

  32. Meeks54 says:

    Too bad we have to score another 12 runs to win.

  33. Widget says:

    I’d love a clean inning after scoring one of these days.

  34. RetroRob says:

    Surprising they couldn’t nail that slow-moving lard-ass at second or home.

    • Mikhel says:

      They didn’t want to, JoeG has his infielders always playing as if they were winning by 100 runs and the one in third base doesn’t matter. You’ll rarely see them going to home plate, unless the game is tied and in the 8th inning or later.

  35. Eddard says:

    Stewart’s one advantage over Romine is throwing out runners so I just can’t believe they PH with a slight lead. Expect the Sox to run rampant on Romine.

    • Mikhel says:

      Not only that, there’s an abismal difference in the approach of both ballclubs.

      The Yankees knew that Lester was already at 80 pitches to begin the bottom half of the 6th, they went to hack and got retired in 7 or 8 pitches.

      In comes Kelley and the Sox have been tiring the pitcher by fouling balls until they see a pitch they like, Kelley needed 21 pitches to retire the inning and had two in scoring position with two outs and 20 pitches (add to that the “ineptness” of catchers since 2011, lots of wild pitches and passed balls on easy blockable pitches in the ground).

  36. D$1184 says:

    AAA relievers, catchers only catching about 5 or 6 innings–it looks like week 2 or 3 of Spring Training out there.

      • Winter says:

        So who would you pitch?

        • Mikhel says:

          It is not a matter of who you’d pitch, because the yanks have (unfortunately) lots of AAA pitchers since the season began and the money pinching began to run amok in the front office since 2010 (save the signing of R. Soriano).

          Were there any good, cheap, effective pitchers available in the offseason? Sure, one of the best in Japan and with very good numbers in the majors is already closing games for the BoSox for a low tag price and like him there were other pieces to replace guys like… Chamberlain, and i am not talking about closers because I don’t believe in closers who can only pitch one inning in certain situations, either you’re a pitcher who can retire anybody in any situation in any inning or you’re not.

          Were there catchers available before the august 31st deadline? Sure, and I think Kurt Suzuki is way way better at catching, throwing and even batting than both Stewart and Romine. Also lets remember Carlos Ruíz was also available.

          The Yanks could very well acquire other pieces and move guys in the 40 man roster in the DL to the 60 day DL but were reluctant to do so, protecting their minor leaguers who Cashman sees as “too valuable”, when in fact, a small amount of them will end up doing something for the ballclub (remember Brackman and how the NYY dropped him).

          So, am I wrong? Maybe, but that doesn’t strip me from my opinion.

  37. Winter says:

    Ok. Time for Shawn Kelley to not stink.

  38. Wheels says:

    Can he please just get Pedroia out? I’m begging

  39. Mikhel says:

    Will the Yanks come in hacking vs Lester who is at almost 90 pitches or will they only take 10 or less pitches?

    I’ve seen constantly this season how they have a pitcher in the ropes in the 4th inning and 60-70 pitches, the batters change their approach, hack at everything they see and the pitcher can make it to the 8th with 90+ pitches.

    • Mikhel says:

      Yup, 11 or 12 pitches took Lester.

      Now, Rivera has thrown 14 pitches, has retired one and has one on base.

      Will he blow another save? Maybe. I think chances are really high he’ll blow it.

  40. NY2FanMaynard says:

    Mo is warming up?

  41. Kevin says:

    would’ve gone with Cabral here for Ortiz & Carp

  42. Mick taylor says:

    I’m sick of hearing what a great manager girardi is. Wtf is wells swinging away on3-0 with Lester having an elevated pitch count. Moves like that will cost us the game

    • Winter says:

      Maybe that call didn’t come from Girardi…

    • Mikhel says:

      It is never good when a manager publicly contradicts his hitting coach regarding how the batters should approach a game and an at bat.

      When last season Kevin Long said the Yanks needed to take advantage by playing small ball to advance runners, JoeG quickly dismissed his opinion by saying “we are the Bronx bombers not the bronx bunters”, and alas, he’s on the verge of having the yanks out of the playoffs by not taking advantage of their speed when they were struggling and forgetting his best hitter was Canó at 0.270 BA (sometimes I think JoeG got stuck in the mid 90s, his mind makes him think these Yanks are the same ones of 1998).

  43. Widget says:

    I do not like this at all. Mo blowing another save would just be the icing on this weekends poop cake.

    • NY2FanMaynard says:

      I hope his pitch count stays low… Some easy outs would be nice.

      • Mikhel says:

        Hard for a pitcher vs the Sox to have low pitching counts.

        While against the Yanks it is fairly easy. Lester had 80 pitches before the 6th, he needed just 36 pitches to throw the 6th, 7th and 8th (Kelley made 21 in 1 inning of work, Rivera has 20 so far in one inning).

  44. Karl Krawfid says:

    Romine is setting up waaay to early.

    Can’t believe the Yankees let Russ Martin go.

    • Mikhel says:

      Russell Martin was not excellent, he batted 0.230 AVG, a low OBP, doesn’t know how to block pitches in the ground, has a strong arm for slow/bad runners. In any case it was preferrable to still have José Molina (batting wise, both catchers are “Molinesque”).

  45. Cool Lester Smooth says:

    Mo?

  46. Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense & Baserunning says:

    of course

  47. Wheels says:

    God dammit. Again

  48. NY2FanMaynard says:

    A freaking HR!

  49. Winter says:

    Un. Be. Lievable.

  50. Karl Krawfid says:

    Away, Away, Away.

  51. Eddard says:

    YES! Complete the New York massacre and force the team to fire Cashman and Girardi.

    • Widget says:

      Unfortunatley that won’t fix a very old team with issues everywhere.

    • JGYank says:

      How can you call yourself a fan if you want this team to lose?

    • Mikhel says:

      Ownership won’t fire Cashman nor JoeG, they’ve executed their plan perfectly, now they know they don’t need to invest in the team to have a “strong enough” team to be on the playoff hunt in september, even though they are not able to beat a good team.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense & Baserunning says:

        They had to spend a highest ever $230M (roughly) in payroll this year.
        How does that show they don’t have to spend to have a “strong enough” team to be in the playoff hunt?

  52. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    Watching the worst season of Mo’s career when he, finally, starts to suck is not fun.

    Mo has been a huge part of the problem.

  53. Anderson Silva says:

    the sad end of Mo and the Yankees. It’s the end of an era really.

  54. The Thumb says:

    well fuck this series

  55. Leg-End says:

    Not our year folks, but then we already knew that.

  56. Widget says:

    my god. YOu get any more predictable. Just sad. TWO blown saves to these clowns.

  57. Meeks54 says:

    Motherfucker I’m so godamn tired of this team, this is ridiculous. This Red Sox team is pissing me the fuck off.

    • Widget says:

      They aren’t that good either. They’ve been incredibly lucky this year. I still love the west coast trip they just had where they missed Kershaw AND Greinke.

  58. NY2FanMaynard says:

    Run screaming from watching the game! Hughes is up in the pen.

  59. Anderson Silva says:

    Mo looks done. I have never seem him behind in so many counts. He’s missing his spots all the time now. It’s depressing.

  60. Betty Lizard says:

    Sons of whoo-whoo!

    It’s like a bad existential play. (Is there a good one?)

    • THA says:

      Huit Clos, Le Diable et le bon Dieu, Les Sequestres d’Altona, The Caretaker, The Homecoming, Waiting for Godot, Krapp’s Last Tape.

      And films galore.

  61. Mikhel says:

    Thanks Mo, now you’ll retire humiliated.

  62. Meeks54 says:

    This bullpen went from the best to trash within a month.

  63. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    Question: IF we somehow win, TB loses, and we stay in the race when do we consider, if D-Rob is pitching well, moving Mo to the eighth?

    I’m serious. We can’t keep having him blow saves like this. D-Rob has been better this year and if his injury doesn’t ruin him we might have to seriously consider it. He’s just the better pitcher this year.

  64. Widget says:

    I hate Middlebrooks. He’s a strikeout machine and he swings at all sorts of crap. You jsut can’t give up a homer to bum like that.

  65. Eddard says:

    Best thing that can happen to us is the Sox win this one, complete the NY massacre and it forces the Steinbrenners to fire Cashman and Girardi. Our only way to improve going forward is to get a regime change. Hopefully a sweep at the hands of the Sox will humiliate ownership enough to make the change.

    I’d like to see this game go into extras, Girardi bring in Joba and he coughs up the game. Joba and Hughes are Cashman’s babies and they are prime examples of why he’s failed.

    • Widget says:

      But ownership is part of the problem. Ichiro signing is proof of that.

      • Mikhel says:

        Ichiro is not as bad considering that without him you’d have Wells fielding all day long. Ichiro has at least helped them with his fielding and throw.

        But it makes us think what were they planning by not resigning Swisher and acquiring Youkilis for basically the same price tag, they went ahead and got Wells for a massive amount of money in 2013 just because he’ll be almost free in 2014.

        The Yanks needed pieces before July 31st and had the Soriano trade ready in the early days of July, they waited to see if the price dropped while the Yanks were struggling to win, they tought it was a wise move to compromise the present by not trading pitchers who won’t be in the majors for the Yankees in at least 3-4 years.

        The yanks needed a C and an IF and they didn’t want to go full steam for Carlos Ruíz or Kurt Suzuki. They weren’t in for Morneau… the Yanks plan was not to invest anymore this season and see how it pans out for 2014.

        • BFDeal says:

          Again, Ruiz was not available.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense & Baserunning says:

          Ichiro is not as bad considering that without him you’d have Wells fielding all day long. Ichiro has at least helped them with his fielding and throw.

          ummm, no. If they didn’t sign Ichiro, they would have acquired a different starting OF.

          And Suzuki sucks. Ruiz may not have been available. Mourneau is a marginal upgrade. If you’re going to complain about not acquiring players, at least complain about not getting actual good players. They weren’t marginal upgrades away from a championship caliber team.

  66. Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense & Baserunning says:

    Game’s over if they don’t score now.

  67. forensic says:

    Unfortunately, that blown save was amazingly predictable. It’s just too much to ask Mo to pitch two innings against this team at this age. And now, since Girardi did that and didn’t remove him after the HR, he threw another 11 pitches which quite possibly puts him out another day.

    • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

      At this point, EVERY blown save is amazingly predictable. I’m at the point where I consider it lucky if he doesn’t allow a run.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      I simply don’t trust him in a close game anymore. One run leads are not safe. 7 BS now.

  68. Meeks54 says:

    It’s a miracle we are even in the Wild Card hunt, with all the injuries, and shit. I’m proud of this team, but this has been a shitty 4 game series.

    • Widget says:

      And that right there is why Cashman and Girardi will be back next season. Despite the disappointment the team has been, the injuries are a legit excuse.

      • Mikhel says:

        I totally agree.

        In my opinion any GM who goes off and is publicly critic of their players should be cut off the team as soon as possible, or at least ordered to shut up.

        If you were hired for a job and one of the superiors spoke in your presentation of how he didn’t want you and you are not a wise decision… how that would make you feel? He is just hurting the players.

  69. Winter says:

    Why is Wells facing a righty?

  70. Winter says:

    Ichiro has to steal, right?

  71. oops says:

    Something for Mo the next time he pitches against the Red Sox:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j8jVFTOV5Y

  72. Meeks54 says:

    We still have a chance with another set with Red Sox, God I want sweet revenge, we just caught a team that is hotter then can be right now, they will cool off. And our pitching has just hit a predictable wall.

  73. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    I am amazingly unhappy right now for a win. Mo sucking is fucking terrible. Of everything happening, that is the WORST.

  74. Meeks54 says:

    Atta Baby Workman

  75. Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense & Baserunning says:

    Need all the help they can get.

    At least they salvaged one game.

  76. forensic says:

    Why the hell was Wells still in there facing a righty???

    What a gift with that wild pitch. Seems like that’s the only way they’d be able to actually win a game in this series.

  77. Anderson Silva says:

    I’d say that’s about the only way they could win. Thanks Salty!

  78. NY2FanMaynard says:

    YES!!

  79. Leg-End says:

    Wild Pitch walkoff, why not.

  80. Meeks54 says:

    LOL what a series. Ugh glad that’s over, got the O’s next let’s hope TB continues their losing ways.

  81. Cool Lester Smooth says:

    Far, far too much excitement right there.

  82. Meeks54 says:

    The New York Cardiac’s Jesus glad that’s over.

  83. Brian Strawman says:

    Who calls for Girardi’s job when he put Mariano in 2 games? Still think it was terrible that ownership signed Rafael Soriano with Mariano and Robertson?

  84. Widget says:

    I’ll take it. I know they lost 3 games, but they still have a chance to gain ground on the wild card.

  85. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    It would be hilarious if TB lost and we GAINED a game in the Wild Card after this series.

    The real problem is, when this is all over, we’re still only going to have three (IF you count Mo, and I’m not sure I do right now) good pitchers, WHEN D-Rob and Kelly get back, IF they’re good. Our bullpen sucks and it’s not going to improve a ton.

    Amazing. When the hitting comes together, the pitching collapses in spectacular fashion.

  86. Meeks54 says:

    LOL I was just thinking that. How in the hell do we go from one extreme to the other. This season ughhhhhh unbelievable, in so many ways. It’s really ridiculous that we didn’t lose any ground in the Wild Card race. We may even gain lol. Oh well we got a 4 game set in Baltimore and then 3 in Boston Gulp, This could be rough, or it could be glorious, either way I’m now an alcoholic.

  87. Mike says:

    Nice to see the Yankees give the Red Sox a lesson. Rivera with the win.

  88. Get Phelps Up says:

    CDick with a terrible baserunning play and the Orioles lose!!

    • forensic says:

      Aviles was caught stealing down 1 in the 9th too and the Indians lost.

    • forensic says:

      Dickerson needs to learn to camouflage his embedded Yankeeness better though.

      At least in the Indians game, Giambi got a single knowing that Aviles would get caught stealing and keep Giambi in the shadows.

      There’s also Ibanez and Almonte helping beat the Rays a bit.

  89. Meeks54 says:

    LOL Baseball is such a weird game we just need the Rays to lose against Sea and it’ll be a great day. Seriously the odds that three Wild card teams are struggling against the weakest teams in the MLB. Cleveland lost to the Mets. Baltimore to the Chisox. TB has been losing to the Seattle Pilots, it’s like the stars are aligning for the Yankees, and we’re not taking advantage. But they also fucked us by giving us the hottest team in baseball to play.

  90. Meeks54 says:

    LOL that’s right the Yankees have benedict arnolds all over the league, we’re like the mafia bitches.

  91. Kiko Jones says:

    The thing is the Yankees could’ve reached a playoff berth by now, but the bullpen chose one of the worst times ever to veer off course. Then again, the offense, the starting pitching and the bullpen have not all clicked at the same time, this season. First, both pitching staffs did the heavy lifting for the anemic offense. Then, the Bombers reappeared but the starters faltered. Now, the starters–for the most part–are starting to get back on track but the bullpen sucks. Jeez.

    But they’re still 2 games out!

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