Agent says Granderson’s “first choice” is returning to Yankees

The Five Longest Yankees Homers of 2013
The Uncertainty of Michael Pineda

Via Dan Martin: Matt Brown, agent for Curtis Granderson, confirmed his client wants to return to the Yankees next season. “That’s his first choice. He absolutely wants to stay there,” said Brown. “It looks like we’re probably headed down that [qualifying offer] road, but I think people remember what he did the previous two years.”

Granderson, 32, hit .229/.317/.407 (97 wRC+) with seven homers and eight steals in 245 plate appearances. His power (.178 ISO and 11.3% HR/FB) slipped quite a bit, which could easily stem from the fractured right forearm and fractured left hand he suffered. Brown said Granderson was not bothered by changing positions (first to left field, then to DH) this year, but he would “rather play center or certainly the outfield every day.” Martin hears the Rangers and Red Sox are potential landing spots.

The Yankees should definitely make Granderson the ~$14M qualifying offer, which would be a slight pay cut from his $15M salary this season. Missing more than a hundred games in your walk year really sucks — “There’s no getting around [it], missing 100 games the year you’re becoming a free agent isn’t great,” said Brown — but I still think teams will make multi-year offers this winter. Power is hard to find these days, even if you only project Granderson as a 25-30 homer guy going forward and not a 40+ homer guy.

The Five Longest Yankees Homers of 2013
The Uncertainty of Michael Pineda
  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Make the QO.
    If he accepts, he’s the RF/DH.
    If he declines, take the pick and let him walk.

    • Mark Teixiera – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew)

      If Granderson declines to QO then I wouldn’t necessarily let him walk. Would I offer more than a 2-3 year deal? No chance, but a 3 year deal $15 million per I would be very comfortable with since his injuries this year were more of the flukes nature rather than of the body breaking down variety.

      • mitch

        Agreed. The QO would be ideal, but i’d go 2 or 3 year if necessary. I wouldn’t want to commit to a guy like Choo or Ellsbury for 5+ years when there should be some internal options ready in another year or two. There’s also no way i’d enter the season with Ichiro, Almonte, etc as an everyday player. Grandy makes a lot of sense as a short term corner outfielder.

        • Chris Z.

          He is probably asking for 5-6 and will get 4. Personally I wouldn’t go 4 on Granderson. 3 years MAX.

          • mitch

            I wouldn’t go more than 3 either. I’d actually be pretty surprised if another team offered him 4+ considering they’d have to lose a pick in the process. If that is the case i’d be fine moving on.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        He’ll be 33 starting next season.
        He hasn’t really hit well since first half of 2012.
        I’d take the risk on him rebounding if he accepts the QO.
        I wouldn’t take a multi-year risk on him rebounding. Most likely they’d just be paying for his decline years.

        • Dohrmann

          “He hasn’t really hit well since first half of 2012.”

          He has only played so much since then… He was on fire for a stretch this season and ice for another, hard to say what he would have done over a longer sample. Certainly he’s likely to start to decline going forward, but how much and how quickly is very much up for debate.

        • Laz

          And they gave Ichiro 2 years at $6.5M each.

  • Shittyshittybangbang

    A 14mm dollar, “qualifier”, is quite a bit of coin to give a player with such minuscule production. And if you use injury as reasoning, then you could also balk at that kind of money. Coming off injury, and a year older, there is no guarantee that he “reverts” to form. I like Grandy – good clubhouse guy, etc…, but let’s not remove some level of impartiality into the equation. Guys like Beltran and Napoli intrigue me.

    • JAG

      Really? Beltran is a lot older and much more prone to chronic injuries than Granderson, who missed time because he got hit in the hands twice by 90 MPH pitches. Napoli’s injury history is even worse, enough that he lost a multiyear deal that was on the table last off-season. Let’s also consider that Beltran is very close defensively to Granderson, while both of them can literally run circles around Napoli.

      I’m not sure where “miniscule production” comes from, unless you’re only counting the 2013 campaign.

      • Shittyshittybangbang

        2013, collecting 15mm dollars, batting 220 with 7 “bombs”. Regardless of injury, that ain’t bang for your buck. Beltran and Napoli could probably be had for 1/2 year contracts, limiting monetary exposure. NY might offer the QO based on expectations that others will offer a multi year deal, and they’d recoup a draft pick. Other than that, offer Grandy 3 @ 13 per, cross fingers, and hope for the best.

        • JCK

          A 14mm dollar, “qualifier”, is quite a bit of coin to give a player with such minuscule production.


          Other than that, offer Grandy 3 @ 13 per, cross fingers, and hope for the best.

          Wait, you’d be okay with committing $39 million over three years but not $15 for one? His 2013 wasnt good enough for a one year deal, but warrant a three year offer? This makes very little sense to me.

          Also, you keep taking about 2013 numbers being a realism motto give him a QO. But his injuries were fluky and likely won’t inform 2014 production at all. So why even use that in your evaluation as to whether an offer makers sense?

          • JCK

            realism motto = reason to

            F-ing iPhone.

    • pat

      40+ HR and 100+ RBI is minuscule production? Damn. I won’t even bother with WAR.

      • Shittyshittybangbang

        2013 numbers. Give me the “war” for those. Look, I’m not a sabr-metrician, or however you say it/ spell it. I keep it simple; BA-220, HR-7, AB-~250, 15mm salary. That ain’t good.

        • the tenth inning stretch

          You’re right, it’s totally Curtis’s fault that he had bones broken twice by pitches. It sucks that the Yankees gave that much payroll to an injured dude, but it’s not Grandy’s fault, as you seem to imply. It’s not like the guy is injury-prone or anything. He slumped at the end of 2012, but so did every other Yankee.

          • Shittyshittybangbang

            His fault ? Of course not. He was hurt, might lead into being “injury prone”, is getting older and might never be what he once was. Just trends, no emotion.

            • BFDeal

              Getting a broken hand might lead to “injury prone”? You’re really reaching now.

              • Shittyshittybangbang

                Injury prone = propensity, which might be bad-luck, totally un-scientific or maybe a by-product of age. Who knows. Point is he was on the D.L. For a significant time. And who’s to say his injuries won’t become chronic. Now, extrapolate his numbers for a full season; ~18 H.R.’s, 60/70 RBI’s with his usual sub-par B.A. – Grandy might be the answer, but let’s look at all options and spend with a clear plan in place.

    • Dohrmann

      Are you familiar with the term “sample size?” If you are going to bring any “impartiality” into the conversation, that would be a good place to start. 245 PAs isn’t even half a season. (Also not sure his injuries are the variety that are likely to linger.)

      Another good place would be acknowledging the risk with either Beltran (who missed a huge chunk of his Mets career and is, what, 40?) or Napoli (who is diagnosed with a degenerative hip condition).

      I am not arguing for Granderson or against the others (truly am impartial here… would like any of the three on the right deal), but I do not believe you are being in any way impartial.

      • Shittyshittybangbang

        “Sample Size” ? Not for 15mm.

  • JGYank

    Not the greatest outfielder but considering our current outfield I’d be happy to have him over the other options we have on the team already. Give him the QO. Keeping him or getting a pick is a win win situation.

    • Dohrmann

      Going back over the past 7 years (including 2013), he’s 4th in OF fWAR. Certainly he’s likely to start declining soon (or already has), but he’s a pretty damn good OF. It really amazes me how bias Yankees fans are in their views.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I agree.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      (With Curtis.)

  • Bobby D

    If you want to build a championship team you don’t give a qualifying offer to a guy who can easily be pitched to in a big spot. Remember his pitiful performance in the playoffs striking out almost every time up with runners on base!! You need guys who can make contact in the clutch and can move base runners!

    • mitch

      Ichiro makes a lot of contact — do you want him instead?

      • JAG

        So do Nunez and Cervelli.

      • Braun

        For $10 million less yes I want him. You can still get a productive player who doesn’t suck 85% of the time and keep a veteran guy for the bench.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          Being cheaper doesn’t make shitty players better or bench players starters.

          Ichiro isn’t a starting caliber OF anymore.
          Granderson likely still is.

          • BFDeal

            Braun just watched Moneyball last night.

    • gc

      He had a bad playoffs in 2012. But so did just about every other Yankee not named Raul Ibanez. His playoff production in 2010 and 2011 for the Yanks was pretty solid though.

      • Neil

        And of course Ibanez was let go without an offer. If you sign Grandy you can’t sign Reynolds. Too many potential strikeout guys in the lineup. I also don’t think you can go into next season with both Ichiro and Wells on the roster. Give Almonte a chance. Assuming a trip to the post season is part of next season (certainly not a given) a few contact hitters in the lineup would be helpful instead of so many HR hitters whose HR frequency goes down and Ks go up in the post season.

    • Matt DiBari

      Prior to the 2012 playoffs he was a .267/.375/.535 hitter with five homers, six doubles and three triples in 27 games. And even that was dragged down by one really awful series (the 2006 World Series)

      He had a really bad post season last year, but so did about 12 other Yankees.

    • Pee Wee Herman Ruth

      If you want to build a championship team you don’t give a qualifying offer to a guy who can easily be pitched to in a big spot

      Let me correct that for you….If you want to build a championship team you do give a qualifying offer to a guy who will either accept and be in your lineup for another year or reject and yield an additional draft choice.

      There ya go

      • Bobby D

        And if he accepts you can have a choke postseason player again like our old buddy Swisher! Time to move on.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Ahh, the old “move runners” canard.
      Does Suzyn Waldman write your talking points for you?

      • gc

        The best way to move the runners is to hit the ball out of the ballpark. And that’s something Granderson can most definitely still do.

  • Vern Sneaker

    And if he doesn’t accept, we have Wells, Ichiro, Almonte, et al. And that ain’t grand[erson].

    Or Cashman can spend a few $$ on another retread.

    • Chris Z.

      The thing that sucks is that 2014 IS the year for retreads. 2010, 2011 and 2012 were not. Now we as fans stand here rooting against logic. 1 year stop gaps to get under 189.

    • Braun

      So Cash should spend money on a 33 yr old OF instead?

      • RetroRob

        Depends on how much and for how long.

  • JAG

    Qualifying offer to Granderson is almost as easy a decision as making one to Cano. Granderson isn’t the greatest ever, but he’s above average easily and is, has been, and very likely will be a big contributor to the team. How much did we like the OF of Gardner, Wells, and Ichiro last year? Soriano changes the equation, but more power is certainly better than less.

    Worst case, he walks and you get a pick, best case he’s back for 1 year at a discount. Middle case, you negotiate some kind of 2-3 year deal for him. Sounds like a win-win-win.

  • BK2ATL

    Kinda sucks that we will have the money to keep him at least short-term, but may not, with all of the legit 40+ HR OF in our system beating down the MLB….

    Equally sucks that his 2013 was shortened due to teams recklessly pitching him inside and hitting him, without recourse from MLB or the Yankees.

    And it would really suck if he ended up in Boston or Texas, while we’re rolling out the Ichiro’s and Wells in the OF in 2014.

    If anything was definite in 2013, our power numbers took a tremendous hit without a healthy Granderson, and even worse, Cano had little protection for much of the year. Crazy enough, we could lose both this offseason, which is possible.

    No if ands or buts, we need to sign them both this offseason.

  • Dick M

    I like Grandy, even though he scares me in the post-season vs good pitching. You also need to build a bridge to hopefully Austin and Mason.

    An OF next year of Sori, Grandy and Gardner is a start on getting things right.

    I’d offer him 3 years, no more. 13-14 mill per yr. If that doesn’t get him, and it might not, then you have some tough decisions on your hands. The real problem here is we don’t have any major league ready outfielders in our system. (While Almonte is a better option than Ichiro and Wells, he really doesn’t fit the bill.)

    • Dohrmann

      Check out his actual post-season production… more series above a .900 OPS than below it. Career .791 OPS.

      Did people here start watching baseball in 2012?

      • dick m

        Lies, damn lies, and statistics. Grandy’s pull the ball approach just isn’t a prescription for post season success.

        As Ron Darling says, HR’s tend to dry up in the post season.

        • gc

          Grandy’s pull the ball approach just isn’t a prescription for post-season success. Except when it is. Like during his 2010 and 2011 Yankee post-seasons.

    • BFDeal

      Every player should scare you when facing “good pitching”. That’s why it’s called “good pitching”.

      • dick m

        Some guys are better at it than others.

  • Dr. TJ Eckleberg

    I think you absolutely extend a QO. I would even be up for a 2-3 year deal worth $10-12mm.

  • mike

    I could live with Granderson, Soriano, Gardner OF, with Soriano as the DH if Jeter plays SS and Ichiro/Wells sliding into a platoon situation getting 200 targeted AB’s each. Sprinkle in Almonte or another RH bat if Ichiro retires or is moved.

    If Jeter is the DH, do matchups in LF with Wells and Granderson – wells hit OK until he was overexposed this year, so limiting his appearances since he costs nothing might be the way to go.

    amazing that everyone above will actually be a free agent after 2014….

    • nsalem

      We can also use Almonte as a pinch runner especially when the season is on the line.

  • Shittyshittybangbang

    I know we’re committed contractually to Wells and Ichiro, but it hurts my head like heck to see them in any line-up projection. Actually, if I’m Grandy’s agent, I lead negotiations with two words; Wells Ichiro. Boom, pay him !

  • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

    QO to Granderson is a no-brainer.

    If he turns it down, I’m up in the air as to what to do with him. My gut says only make a 2 year offer. Grandy is a one trick pony (maybe 1.5, defense is decent, better at a corner spot than center at this point) and even though power is the best trick to have, if he loses it he’s not much more useful than Ichiro (maybe even less useful, since he makes little contact).

    That being said, I still see Curtis as a good power hitter (at least 20-30+) for the next couple years, but I’m not sure I’d want to gamble longer than that.

  • Jerry

    $14 million gets you a guy who strikes out close to 200 times in a season? I’ll take that job.

  • Eddiedi

    If we do QO, do we get a pick if he signs elsewhere. If so, seems like a no brainer. if he accepts, great, if not then we get a pick. Would love the pick. Same question for Kuroda.

  • OldYanksFan

    In 1957, when 100 Strikeouts was considered HORRIBLE, this guy struck out 146 times.
    146 times. Horrible.
    He also posted a triple slash of: .365 .512 .665 1.177

    ENOUGH talking about Strikeouts without any other context.

    God bless Mickey Mantle.

    • WhittakerWalt

      I don’t think anyone would be complaining about Curtis’s strikeouts if that was his triple slash line.
      Well, OK. Some people would still complain.