Jun
05

Heyman: Yankees asked Morales to hold off on signing

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Via Jon Heyman: The Yankees asked Kendrys Morales to hold off on signing so they could have a little more time to evaluate Mark Teixeira (wrist) and Carlos Beltran (elbow) following their injuries. Morales and Scott Boras said no because they’ve been waiting to sign for months and that is a stupid request. Heyman says Morales is likely to sign within a day or two since the draft is beginning tonight.

Teixeira already said he’s going to need regular days off to manage the wrist, no? And Beltran will receive treatment for the elbow the rest of the season, right? Right. They’ve already been evaluated, there you go. They’re probably going to get hurt again because they have injuries prone to setbacks and because everyone on the Yankees gets hurt again. If the Yankees are this hesitant to add help, then they’re in even more trouble that we all think.

Categories : Asides, Hot Stove League

83 Comments»

  1. YankeeDJW says:

    Even with no more injuries (haha), it can’t get much worse than Soriano at DH anyway. They should sign him the second the draft is over.

  2. TWTR says:

    It is a stupid request.

    • El Maestro says:

      Obviously is stupid, but doesn’t hurt to ask… I guess is just posturing.

      • Cuso says:

        Posturing is feigning strength to make someone come to you in negotiations. This is the opposite of posturing. This is asking for leeway by outright revealing your weakness.

        • lightSABR says:

          Really? It’s saying, “you know, we’re not sure we really need you because we have these two former all-stars who might be able to do the job.” Doesn’t sound like announcing a weakness to me.

          That said, it doesn’t sound particularly likely to succeed, either.

          • Cuso says:

            Really? Because to me it sounds like “Please don’t sign anywhere else yet because we need to see if we might not need you…but we might, so please wait for us.”

            • lightSABR says:

              It’s entirely likely that Tom K (a bunch of comments down) has nailed it: this is actually just Boras trying to convince other teams that the Yankees are in on the bidding when they really aren’t.

    • pat says:

      Why is it a stupid request?

      • TWTR says:

        Because assuming it is true (and it may not be as I suggested below), it demonstrates a (willful?) blindness to Morales/Boras’s best interests. IOW, it isn’t reasonable to ask a player who has, as a result of one of Boras’ few bad decisions, missed a 1/3 of the season to wait even longer if another, better offer is made by another team.

  3. W.B. Mason Williams says:

    “Look to my coming on the first light of the first day (after the draft), at dawn look to the (AL) east.”

  4. ALZ says:

    Kind of a dumb request. Boras knows they are interested, he probably trying to get them to make a fearful decision.

  5. theyankeewarrior says:

    If Beltran is so healthy, he can play RF. If Tex is so healthy, he can play 1B. Guess what? That leaved DH for KM every day. If Soriano is even in the picture here, then someone needs to be fired.

    • lightSABR says:

      Right. Ichiro is an adequate 4th outfielder, and Almonte is probably an adequate 5th outfielder. Soriano is looking less and less like an adequate anything right now – he’s sort of this year’s version of last year’s Ichiro, only with lousy defense.

  6. King George says:

    Girardi said they don’t want Beltran playing in RF because he can “jostle” the elbow and the bone spur can possibly get aggravated. You know what? Roll the dice. Put him in RF for as long as possible, sign KM, and call it a day. If he’s that fragile, he’ll get hurt as the DH anyways. KM costs money, *NOT* prospects. So do it.

    1. Gardner-LF
    2. Jeter-SS
    3. Ellsbury-CF
    4. Tex-1B
    5. Morales-DH
    6. Beltran-RF
    7. McCann-C
    8. Solarte-3B
    9. Roberts-2B

    That looks a hell of a lot better than what we’re seeing right now, even with Carlos coming back to the current lineup.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

      The more I think about it the more I agree with this line of thinking. Adding another DH is hardly ideal, but the Yankees are in a position where they just need to take a shot and roll the dice on Beltran in the OF to get some more offense.

      • Paisa says:

        I’m in the same camp. Morales makes basically no sense given the rest of their roster. But the offense is not good, and the roster is already so screwy and out-of-whack, that they might as well throw some cash at this particular problem (the offense) and hope it works out.

      • TWTR says:

        As we discussed on the prior thread, sub-out Johnson for Roberts, and for the first time this season, they have (potentially) either pop or on base skills at every slot.

    • Tom says:

      This seems like a no brainer.

      The worst case scenario is Beltran gets hurt in RF and the Yankees, for about 2 months, have basically swapped Beltran DH’ing for Morales DH’ing. But in so doing they have a backup 1st baseman and will eventually get Beltran back sometme in August (and at that point he can play the OF).

      The upside is Beltran plays RF and they have added a quality DH bat to the lineup and a backup for Tex – not a great one, but a guy who can play there when Tex feels the wrist acting up.

      The only downside I see signing Morales is
      1) Money – and it’s not my money so not really a concern.
      2) They would need to cut bait on either Soriano or Ichiro – this is kind of a big deal, but for Morales’ bat I think it’s worth cutting Soriano and run the risk of him having a hot streak somewhere else. They also have Almonte down in AAA as depth so if someone in the OF gets injured it’s not like they would be left extremely thin.

    • Dirk Diggler says:

      .625 OPS getting the second most at bats on the team?

      As if THAT doesn’t have something to do with the team’s ability to score runs?

      Thanks for the memories Jeet — but the guy doesn’t deserve to play over Ryan nevermind hit second.

    • lightSABR says:

      This.

  7. TWTR says:

    On second thought, this could be Heyman advancing Boras’ agenda.

  8. vicki says:

    this is embarrassing. i’m embarrassed.

  9. Steinbrenner's Ghost says:

    Cheap-skates

    They want to know if they collect on Beltran’s insurance policy before making an offer.

  10. Yangeddard Solarte says:

    Excuse me unemployed ballplayer, would you mind waiting a few more weeks to get a job and ignore all of the other employers requests while we determine if we really want to hire you or not?

    That’s absurd. I think they should pick him up and DFA Soriano. Bring Sizemore back and DFA Kelly Johnson.

  11. Roy Munson says:

    Good lord the Front Office is a mess. You think Cashman and Co are like $#@! this… let Hank, Hal, and Randy run this thing into the ground before we leave

    • hornblower says:

      Jon Heyman is a shill for Boras as are most of the other baseball wags. When he signs they get a nice present. Believe it.

      • Paisa says:

        Exactly. Scotty B trying to make the rest of baseball believe that the Yankees’ deep pockets are lurking in the background.

      • vicki says:

        i’m sure heyman and company have a direct pipeline of intelligence coming from boras HQ. that doesn’t make the report untrue.

  12. Farewell Mo says:

    That Cashman is a shrewd one, isn’t he!

  13. Ed says:

    The Yankees request is really silly, but, Morales really doesn’t have a place on the team right now. Unless Beltran or Tex goes on the DL again, he’ll play what, 2 games a week?

    He’ll mostly get in a game or two a week when Tex needs time off. You can squeeze in an extra game here and there when Beltran needs a day off and they don’t want to give anyone else a half day off at DH.

    And if you go this route, you loose the option of Murphy catching while McCann plays DH/1B. While Murphy has a short track record, are you sure that Morales is enough of an upgrade to justify taking at bats away from him?

    I think the only clear places to upgrade the team are by replacing Soriano, Ichiro, Johnson, or Roberts. We need a RF, 2B, or 3B. A DH who can barely play the field seems like a horrible fit.

  14. CashmanNinja says:

    Signing Morales is a must in my opinion. He costs NOTHING except money. This is one of the few advantages we have — use it. I realize that it creates a log jam, but as stated…Beltran has about as much a chance of hurting his elbow throwing a ball as he does swinging a bat. Morales offers a legit bat and last time I checked we needed offense. Plus there’s a very high chance that Beltran and Tex could need many days off and/or get hurt again and be out for chunks at a time. This is a no-brainer. Sign him, Cashman!

  15. viridiana says:

    “They’re probably going to get hurt again because they have injuries prone to setbacks and because everyone on the Yankees gets hurt again.”

    Says it all — great post

  16. Mike says:

    Boras owes us for making him rich this past off-season. He should grant this request.

    • Daniel says:

      I know, and honestly why not wait a day or two extra? What could it hurt? It’s not like he’s going to lose money by doing it. And is he going to hit more HR’s and build value anywhere better than at Yankee Stadium?

  17. Daniel says:

    I’ve never heard so many people say so many nice, positive things about Kendrys Morales in such a short amount of time. He is not that this good.

    • TWTR says:

      His 123 OPS+ last season would rank 3rd on the current Yankees’ offense, as would his 119 in 2012.

      • Farewell Mo says:

        Don’t let your facts get in the way of their narrative.

        The Yankees don’t need Morales or Drew because they’re just not that good. Period.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

      Compared to some of the players on the current roster…

    • CashmanNinja says:

      Morales may not be Pujols in his prime, but he’s much better than any of our alternatives. Morales gives us a legit bat in a lineup that is struggling to score runs. How is that a bad thing??

    • Daniel says:

      I get it but, It’s just funny. People are talking more positively about him than they were about resigning Cano last year.

      • TWTR says:

        I suspect that any negativity about Cano was with regard to a 10 year contract for a 31 year old.

        The offense is in a Code Red situation now.

  18. King George says:

    Well here’s some cold water to douse on this fire:

    Marchand says everyone he’s talked to in FO says Morales is not an option for them.

  19. cooolbreeez says:

    We need a bat. More than anything. KM has a bat. Sign him.

  20. Dirk Diggler says:

    The solution to the offensive struggles probably starts with Derek Entitlement and his .625 OPS being moved to ninth in the order instead of the spot that gets the second most at bats on the team.

    • King George says:

      +1

    • lightSABR says:

      Replacing five Soriano at-bats per game with five Morales at-bats per game would do a heck of a lot more for the offense than replacing one Jeter at-bat per game with one Beltran or McCann at-bat per game. Heck, Jeter’s not even the worst Yankee hitter this year. Soriano is.

      I have no idea if signing Morales can be made to work with their current roster construction, but as far as offense goes, Morales would do more than any changes they can possibly make with the players currently under contract.

      • King George says:

        You’re missing the point. Jeter should be dropped in the order. He’s single or bust. The argument was to simply lower him in the lineup.

        • lightSABR says:

          I don’t disagree that Jeter’s batting too high in the order, and on top of that, he really shouldn’t be playing shortstop anymore. I’m just pointing out that the order of the batters matters a heck of a lot less than who the batters are.

          From the little bit of research I’ve seen, batting order really doesn’t matter all that much – maybe a game per season or so. It’s mostly a symbolic issue – the Yanks won’t drop Jeter in the order because of what he’s meant to the franchise, and you’re furious with them because you think it means they don’t care about winning.

          I prefer to save my fury for the things that matter, like the way their idiotic $189m plan is well on its way to ruining a second season in a row without ever saving the Yanks a penny in luxury tax.

          • Dirk Diggler says:

            You’re right for the most part. But in the bottom of the ninth with Gardner on second — do you want Jeter coming up to the plate or Ellsbury?

            The answer is easy. And Jeter’s nonexistent range KILLS this team defensively.

            My question for you is — and this isn’t meant to be sarcastic or patronizing etc. — have the Yankees watched Morales work out or anything the past few months? I never read anything indicating such. Morales has always kind of been a heavy guy, I wouldn’t want to DFA Soriano and bring in an out of shape, not close to ready for game speed Morales. But yes, I agree, Soriano has been horrible.

            • King George says:

              This is essentially my argument.

              My answer to your question is that Morales essentially brings a better average and more consistency, as well as more power which has dropped off considerably with Soriano. Also consider Morales is a switch hitter whereas Soriano is not.

            • lightSABR says:

              How do you know the top of the order’s going to be up in the bottom of the ninth? Jeter can end the game with a strikeout or a GDP whether he’s batting second or ninth.

              I get that there are optimal batting orders and that the current one isn’t one of them. I also stand by what I said: who’s batting is more important than the order they’re batting in.

          • jim p says:

            maybe a game per season or so

            At the same time, how many times does a playoff spot rest on a one-game difference? Often enough to make every win count, no?

            • lightSABR says:

              Totally – I don’t mean to say at all that it doesn’t matter, and I wish Jeter were self-aware enough to realize that it’s best for the team if he takes a diminished role.

              But look at this offense right now. Juggling the batting order isn’t anything like “the solution to the offensive struggles.” We’ve got four starters right now who have been above-average hitters this season – Teixeira, Solarte, Ellsbury, and Gardner – and Ellsbury and Gardner have been just barely above average. That’s just not good enough, especially not with three starters on the DL and an overworked bullpen

              • jim p says:

                Complete agreement. Do wish the Captain could do the right thing. I mean, chain of command is chain of command, and a player is paid to do what they’re told, but I guess the ‘good soldier’ mentality has to take a back seat to ‘historic player’ right now. Heck, he might own part of the team next year!

  21. Algernon Blackwood says:

    “Morales and Scott Boras said no because they’ve been waiting to sign for months and that is a stupid request.”

    I actually lol’ed

  22. Tut says:

    Murphy’s numbers are based on small sample, high baip, and little power. I take Morales and McCann catching any day.

    • lightSABR says:

      Ouch. You’re right. And his BB/K rate is atrocious: 0.14!

      I guess Mike’s been cheering so hard for the guy that I didn’t realize how lucky he’s getting.

  23. Tom K says:

    The “request” is meaningless – why would it even leak out? Oh yeah, because Boras is using Heyman to get teams to think the Yankees are really in on Morales when they actually are not. The actual conversation probably went like this:
    Boras: Any interest?
    Yankees: Not right now, our players are getting healthy.
    Boras (to Heyman): Hey, John – the Yankees just said they weren’t interested “right now” in Morales – please print that as “The Yankees want us to wait!” Thank you.

    I mean, come on – all of this backlash over Heyman’s stupid story? The Yankees are not likely to sign Morales, nor do I think they really should.

    • Professorg says:

      Cashman is the stupid one for not signing Nelson Cruz for one year at 8 million.

      We wait it out with a ‘not make the post season’ rest of the year and hope Detroit hasn’t extended Max Scherzer with that Price Fielder money they saved and while we save money after being free of Ichiro, Soriano and our beloved Captain, we sign JJ Hardy for short and find a right fielder since Beltran may end up being the DH which leaves ARod where exactly?

  24. Mickey Scheister says:

    Whoever signs Morales plays with a 24 man team until he’s ready, right?

  25. ruralbob says:

    Oh, c’mon! “Jon Heyman said…”? About a Boras client? And people are giving this credibility? Sheesh!

  26. Kiko Jones says:

    All this hubbub over Kendrys Morales, eh? Really scraping the bottom of the barrel, huh?

  27. mustang says:

    I have a bridge to sale in Brooklyn and this seem like the right place since so many believe this story at face value.

  28. EndlessJose says:

    I don’t care if Morales plays third they need a bat.Elsbury has been hitting better now Tex and Beltran is back.Even if Beltran went hitless pitchers still shave to strike him out as he isn’t an easy out.

    The more firepower will help the whole line-up.

  29. Jorge Steinbrenner says:

    In an attempt to capitalize on the RAB crowd, Netflix changed the name of the show at the last minute to “Morales is the new Drew.”

    How Laverne Cox and Laura Prepon fit into all this, I have no clue.

    I highly doubt Kendrys Morales could pitch into the seventh either.

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