Jun
12

Thursday Night Open Thread

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The Yankees are still out on the West Coast, so the regular game thread is a few hours away. While you’re waiting, check out the above feature on LHP Ian Clarkin, the third of the Yankees’ three first round picks in last year’s draft. Also check out this firsthand scouting report from Baseball Prospectus (no sub. req’d), which includes a link to even more video. I ranked Clarkin as the team’s third best pitching prospect and seventh best prospect overall two weeks ago.

Here is your open thread for the night. The Mets are playing, MLB Network is airing a regional game, and Game Four of the NBA Finals is on as well. Talk about those games, Clarkin, or anything else right here.

Categories : Open Thread

51 Comments»

  1. Yankee$ says:

    I just want to go on the record and say that Mike’s trade proposal today did not suck.

  2. Lukasz says:

    Looks like Brazil took flopping lessons from Lebron James

  3. The Other Matt says:

    Thanks for embedding the video, Mike. Pretty nice feature on a young, talented prospect in the system that many of us would otherwise not see much video on.

  4. Wolfgang's Fault says:

    Looks like I’m starting it off. Ok, so my question is Ronnier Mustelier was released in late April/early May. What happened to him? Did another club pick him up for their system? Is the guy out of baseball entirely? What’s the story w/him? Gotta be kind of scary for the guy if he can’t find a team to pay him to play ball. What does a guy like him, pretty much just over from Cuba, do if he’s not permitted to play baseball any longer? Hope he lands on his feet & is ok. Thanks in advance for any info.

  5. The Other Matt says:

    It is interesting that the Baseball Prospectus evaluation believes that Clarkin’s changeup will end up being his best off-speed offering, being that he was so highly touted for his curveball coming into the draft and in the video.

    • ALZ says:

      Is just a scout’s opinion. He does say that his curveball will always look better, but changeup more effective. This can be true, sometimes the big breaking curveball can be hard to locate, and isn’t always as deceptive. If he is good with both they will play off each other.

      • The Other Matt says:

        Very true. It was just an interesting bit of information. I remember seeing quite a few reports of him leading up to the draft last year, as he was considered a guy that the Yankees would target with one of their three picks if he were to be available, and I don’t ever really remember much being said about his changeup. With that being said, if his changeup turns out to be an a plus offering, in addition to his curveball, it will be all the better. Most starters normally have (at least) three quality/decent pitches. Normally, they’ll have the fastball, a secondary offering which will be there go-to pitch, and then another pitch which isn’t great but something of enough quality that they can show to a hitter so they can’t constantly sit on their go-to pitch. If a pitcher has two secondary pitches that are plus-pitches then it can help them substantially.

    • Yankee$ says:

      I was surprised to see 4th Starter “Realistic” Projection. I’m surprised they didn’t list potential Peak….or did I miss something?

      • ALZ says:

        Is realistic projection.
        Glasnow is #46 mlb prospect by BA this spring, and they have him as a #3. Eduardo is #65, and they call him a 4/5. BA had Crick as #33 overall, and this calling him a setupman. And I think it’s accurate. Odds are many these players end up in that role, not their ceiling, not guaranteed though.

  6. Dan says:

    I like the fact that they’re going big with the international signings, but I don’t get why they’re even bothering with a limit on how much they spend. No matter what, they’re not going to be able to sign a guy next year for any substantial amount of money, and then if they move to the international draft, they’ll forfeit at least the first round pick next year (and probably more). So why cap yourself at $12-$15m in salaries with the accompanying penalties? They should not get outbid on any player they’re remotely interested in. Spending the extra $10-$20m to lock up all of the players they want right now could end up saving them $100m+ in Free Agent contracts down the road.

    • tom says:

      Yankees apparently don’t plan to pay overage tax thrice. Yankees went with IFA as they got verbal agreements from 6 IFA teens. It would be fucked up if those IFA teens decided to sign with other teams. lol.

    • Yankee$ says:

      They likely gave themselves a budget for the overspend ($30 Million?). Budgets are good, even for the deep pocketed crowd. It forces you to make great decisions within the spending limit.

      • Dan says:

        That’s true, but they haven’t even been linked to any SPs and while they guys they’ve been linked to are highly rated, I haven’t seen anything to say any of them is the top guy on the market.

        • Preston says:

          Most raters wait to rank IFA until right before the signing period. Mostly because it’s hard to get info on 16-20 year old kids located all over latin america. But Dermis Garcia is widely considered to be one of the top two guys from what I have read.

  7. Yan Solo says:

    Jesus Montero just got called up by the Mariners apparently. For whatever that’s worth to anyone here…or on the Mariners?!

    • The Other Matt says:

      Yeah, I happened to see that today as well. Too bad he’s not in the lineup, I would’ve like to see him just because. The Yankees won’t being playing the Mariners again this season, and I don’t get a chance to catch too many Mariners games unless they’re on MLB Network/ESPN so it might be the only chance to see him.

    • Deep Thoughts says:

      Defensive scouting report from Jay Yencich at USS Mariner: “Runs and defends well for a golem or a prize-winning pumpkin but it’s not so great when you consider that it’s coming from an alive dude.”

      Offensively, not terrible at Tacoma, although it’s PCL:
      April (87 PA): .288/.322/.613, .390 wOBA, 23% Ks, 4.6% BBs
      May (133 PA): .252/.353/.351, .314 wOBA, 18.8% Ks, 13.5% BBs
      June (35 PA): .290/.371/.419, .340 wOBA, 17.1% Ks, 11.4% BBs

  8. The Other Matt says:

    Carlos Gomez just played a ball that bounced off the wall in left-center field and threw a strike from the track to throw out David Wright at 2nd.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      I saw Barry Bonds do that once, but it was to Todd Hundley. That’s a little more likely, considering Hundley was a catcher. David Wright is actually a good baserunner.

  9. The Other Matt says:

    Just read that it looks like John Ryan Murphy will be going down to Triple A with Cervelli coming off the DL tomorrow.

    • tom says:

      Yankees have no choice.

      • ALZ says:

        Don’t think he was enough of an upgrade to cut Cervelli for. He provided 91 wRC+, Cervellis is lifetime 92 wRC+. Sure I think he is better player, but he isn’t enough of an upgrade to cut your depth and start running his service time for as a backup player.

        • TheRealGreg says:

          Also a good idea to try and see if they can get some trade value for either of them

        • The Other Matt says:

          That’s my thinking. When Murphy was hot it was easy to say forget Cervelli, we should keep Murphy as the backup. But he has started to cool off a bit with the bat, and I honestly don’t think it was really ever worth risk having to DFA Cervelli at Murphy’s expense. At the end of the day Murphy still has a chance to be a starter in this league, possibly for the Yankees in a few years. Allow him to go down to AAA and get the majority of the playing time with Romine as his backup. To me, Cervelli is a very good backup, because he is just that, a backup. And he does a solid job behind the plate. I don’t think you lose or gain much by having Murphy ahead of Cervelli, therefore, don’t risk losing Cervelli for without reason. With the way Cervelli seems to get injured on a regular basis we may very well see Murphy back up sooner than later, anyway. It’s a lot of talk about the backup catcher job, anyway. Not to say it’s not important, but it’s not like the starting catching job is up at stake. If Murphy is sent down to AAA, as is being reported, then the Yankees are making the smart move. Don’t make it a more complicated decision move than it has to be. Even if Murphy goes down to AAA he still has the chance at having a very bright future, it won’t alter that.

          • Wolfgang's Fault says:

            When you play once a week, it’s not cooling off w/the bat. It’s not playing enough. Murphy needs a/b’s and Scranton is the best place for him to get them. I think Murphy’s going to be a real good ML hitter.

      • The Other Matt says:

        To a certain degree they do. But I agree with you for the most part.

  10. Bo Knows says:

    Baseball prospectus brings up Clarkin being matured physically (which a lot of places do as well), but he looks fairly thin, not Gosuke Katoh thin where you could probably see another 20+ lbs in his future, but Clarkin frame reminds me of Zack Greinke’s when he was in highschool. He could and should add another 10 lbs just from normal maturation of his body and probably end up around 200-205 lbs.

  11. ALZ says:

    Is the strikeout artist starting with the lefty?

  12. mustang says:

    I think the Diamondbacks and Yankees make good trade partners. I’m thinking Aaron Hill and Nick Ahmed or some of the other surplus infielders from the Diamondbacks on the front end. Maybe a starter like McCarthy or Arroyo on the back end.

    Thoughts ?

    • ALZ says:

      not particularly sure I want to buy on Hill with the season he is having, and the contract he is tied to. He was pretty bad when he was last in the AL east.

    • Oy says:

      Trading for Hill and/or Prado when their values are low would be nice. I wouldn’t give up anything of value, though. Both are owed a lot of money. Take on salary and give up prospects in the top 15-25 range, sure, but don’t give them top 10 guys.

      I’d rather have Phelps out there than McCarthy or Arroyo. They are meh at best.

  13. We all know Soriano is a streaky hitter he can look like total shit one week the one of games best hr hitters the next but if you bench him for one hit a game if hes lucky Suzuki we will never know will we ?

  14. Yanksinfirst says:

    REFSNYDER HAD NO HITS. AHHHHHHH

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