Heyman: Gardner, Prado, Drew all clear trade waivers

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Via Jon Heyman: Brett Gardner, Martin Prado, and Stephen Drew all cleared trade waivers this month. That means they can all now be traded to any team. It doesn’t mean the Yankees want to move them, of course, but they can if they want. The Nationals claimed Matt Thornton off trade waivers the other day and the club let him go for nothing.

As a reminder, teams will pass almost all of their players through trade waivers this month. They are completely revocable, so players can be pulled back if claimed. Most of the time they try to hide a player they’re looking to move by putting a whole bunch of players on waivers on the same time. The Yankees figure to claim a player or three this month if for no other reason than to block them from going to one of the teams they’re trying to catch in the standings. I’m surprised no one claimed Gardner.

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  • ACX

    I was going to say, shocked Gardner wasn’t claimed by someone. Probably knew there was zero chance the Yankees let him go.

    • amanda

      maybe hes going to reds after all

      • ACX

        Gardner is going nowhere for at least four more years.

        • EndlessMikeJr

          Gardner would be a great trade chip as he is a center fielder with a great contract and could bring some nice players as we have a center fielder who is a leadoff guy already.
          I also think Girardi has messed with Ellsbury by constantly moving him from the leadoff position.We need power in left fielde not a spray ball hitter with good pop. Gardner has been great but he is more useful as trade chip.

  • blake

    Gardner is somewhat surprising because his contract doesn’t look bad at all right now……I’m guessing it was one of those situations where other teams were like (they’ll just pull him back so why bother)

    • Gardner Plants One

      Gotta agree with you here. Seems like teams know the Yanks aren’t moving him so they’re not even going to waste their time.

      • The Great Gonzo

        This exactly. I mean, make the claim, sure… but I don’t know what kind of paperwork is involved there. Maybe its a matter of not wanting to bother.

        Is it like ordering a pizza on Papajohns.com? Is it like starting the mortgage process? Is it a swipe process like you’re playing Fruit Ninja? How much work is it to claim a player off waivers? I want to know

        • ACX

          They have a timer like Dominos? Blinks when the process gets to next steps if you type in the players name? Step 3: Just passed the Cubs Step 4: Just passed the NL Step 10: Your player is safe.

        • Terry

          Many teams put almost all of their eligible players on waivers as a procedural move.

          The reasons why the players usually pass through is a combination of “gentleman’s agreement”, good business practice, and back-channel lobbying.

          Unless a team wants to be openly hostile (and no, ie the Red Sox and Yankees organizations are on very cordial business terms) thereby ruining future deals that sometimes have nothing to do with baseball (these club owners are more than just sports organizations), few hostile waiver pickups happen these days.

          • The Great Gonzo

            Soooooooooo, like Papa Johns then?

    • W.B. Mason Williams

      Gardner for Phillips!

      • NYCORNERSTONE

        Thats what i was thinking Gardner for Phillips and Stubbs

        • Deceptively Unathletic

          What are y’all smoking? Trade Gardy.. our best player in almost every facet of the game for a 2nd baseman about to be on the decline and a player who is either a slightly above average hitter or well below average year to year? Ca$hmoney made some great moves– Drew looks great at 2nd so far defensively and so does Headley (3B)

          • Angelo

            WB Mason Williams was joking. Pretty sure the latter poster was joking as well.

            • Deceptively Unathletic

              Yikes, hangovers and sarcasm don’t mix very well. My apologies kids.

          • NYCORNERSTONE

            lol only Red id trade him for is Joey Votto maybe

    • TWTR

      That makes me think about which players were claimed. It would seem obvious that Robertson would be one of them, not that they would trade him. Maybe Headley too? Those are the two players I want re-signed most.

      • blake

        I think there are probably a lot of players that get claimed every year that we never know about because they are just immediately pulled back……or that clear just because teams don’t bother claiming players they know a team isn’t moving.

    • Shame Spencer

      I do wonder what to do with Garnder… I’d bet money this turns out to be a career year for him, so do you try to capitalize on it and move him for something you really need (like a front-line starter or middle of the order bat, assuming he can give you that return)? Man, I really wish we just had his contract and not Ellsbury’s. I like Ellsbury as a player but that deal is so gross. No one will ever take that off our hands.

      • TWTR

        They should absolutely explore trading him in the offseason to see if any team would make an offer they can’t refuse. As unlikely as that is, it would be a great way to get younger and balance out the roster.

        • Howler

          It wouldn’t completely surprise me to see Ellsbury traded somewhere down the line. Eat some of the contract, throw in a prospect. Who knows what will happen. It’s why I never make projections what a roster is going to look like next year, because a lot can happen between now and then. Someone like Prado might not even be on the team.

        • Havok9120

          I agree on exploring a Gardner trade that way. I absolutely love the guy, and would like to see him on the team going forward, but he’s a great player on an eminently tradeable contract. Always worth seeing who will give what.

          • Thunderfingers (prev. I’m One)

            I imagine trades are explored all the time that we know nothing about. You know, Team A calls Team B about one player and a different player’s name comes up. Most of the time, nothing comes of it because of the Ruban Amaro effect.

        • Deep Thoughts

          Gardner, Prado, and Judge to the M’s for Cano, A-Jack, and cash considerations. Get it done Cash.

  • ChristIsKing

    Yo Mike, is that Billy Fleming kid for real?

    • Angelo

      He was a 21 year old undrafted free agent playing at the lowest level of the minors. What he does, does not matter at this point.

      Also, please follow the guidelines for commenting on this site. This has nothing to do with the posted topic.

      • ChristIsKing

        Angelo, with all due respect, when it comes to talking waiver claims, there is an aspect of trades and players who can take over IF a trade were to happen… Considering that Prado and Drew make up half the infield and Gardner is our best hitter right now, Id say a kid batting .484 in the minors is worth some talk moving forward…

        Thank you for your advice… and have a nice day.

        • Angelo

          I’m assuming you began follow prospects pretty recently. You’re referring to a player that every team in baseball decided to not draft this year. He’s also a player that is 21 turning 22 in a month in a league where most real prospects are 17-19 years old.

          He’s pretty old for that level of competition. The fact that he wasn’t drafted speaks to what scouts think of him as a player. He might still amount to something, but raving about success at the lowest level of the minors will usually leave anyone feeling pretty depressed. It’s close to meaningless. Even more so when the player you’re talking about has only played 10 games at the lowest level of professional competition.

          • ChristIsKing

            yea man, im pretty new to prospects… i see anything over .330 and i get excited. go figure

  • Drew

    Hopefully, the Yankees can continue to make incremental upgrades and bolster the rotation. Capuano was fantastic last night, but by any means should the Yankees just assume that he is going to continue be that pitcher going forward.

  • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

    Danks will probably clear, although I dont want him. Rios might clear and im not too high on him either. Hes been up and down too much in recent years. Al though we should claim him for the sake of claiming him. We can eat his contract and block other teams.

    • TWTR

      Dumping Thorton’s contract probably shows that they aren’t going to eat just to block. If they make a move, it will probably be for another pitcher.

      • ACX

        No Danks. Just NO!!!!

      • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

        I see it as that they are clearing some salary and a 25 man spot in preparation for a claim or even a block. (guys who took his spot are more expendable.))

  • blake

    Verlander will clear! Cash may put in a claim on Upton

    • TWTR

      Why do you risk alienating such a hot young woman? ;)

      • ACX

        I see what you did there. Kate is good, but we already have a hot young women now that McCarthy is here. Take Amanda over Kate 365 days a year.

        • TWTR

          Wait…there’s a quota?

          • ACX

            Hal is trying to budget..

        • gageagainstthemachine

          Ummm. I have to go with Kate Upton. Sorry. IMO

          • blake

            Yes God was in the zone the day he made her

          • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

            Can we sign Mrs. Roberts to a MiLB deal?

            • gageagainstthemachine

              Definitely MiLB deal worthy.

              • ACX

                Never saw her. How the hell did Roberts score that?

                • gageagainstthemachine

                  I think he might have been a good, multi millionaire, baseball player once upon a time ;)

            • pepespizza

              I see what you did there.

        • The Billy MartinVanBuren Boys

          Since we’re on the subject, I will take the WORST looking of The Captain’s conquests over the BEST looking wife of any player, any day of the week

      • Deceptively Unathletic

        Well done.

    • ACX

      I feel like Aaron Judge is basically one year away from contributing to this team. I dont see them adding yet another outfielder when they have Ellsbury, Gardner, Prado, and yes even beltran, plus those guys that fill in from AAA. The $$$$$ has to go to the infield and a pitcher…

    • HansDavenport

      Kate Upton wouldn’t have anything to do with Cashman.

  • ropeadope1

    Today’s Starting Lineups:

    Detroit Tigers

    1 LF Rajai Davis
    2 CF Ezequiel Carrera
    3 2B Ian Kinsler
    4 DH Victor Martinez
    5 RF J.D. Martinez
    6 1B Don Kelly
    7 3B Nick Castellanos
    8 C- Alex Avila
    9 SS Andrew Romine

    SP Rick Porcello

    New York Yankees

    1 LF Brett Gardner
    2 3B Martin Prado
    3 CF Jacoby Ellsbury
    4 DH Carlos Beltran
    5 1B Chase Headley
    6 SS Stephen Drew
    7 C+ Francisco Cervelli
    8 RF Ichiro Suzuki
    9 2B Brendan Ryan

    SP Shane Greene

    • The Billy MartinVanBuren Boys

      No Miggy?? I’ll take it!

      • ropeadope1

        Tex for Miggy. A wash.

        • Dalek Jeter

          I like Tex…but no. Miggy is so much better that we definitely benifet from both of them being off.

    • HansDavenport

      So today’s bench is Jeter and McCann. Unless a pitcher got sent down.

      • ropeadope1

        No roster moves as far as I can tell. But I see the bottom third of our order raking today, so all should be good.

  • Jack

    “…I’m surprised no one claimed Gardner….” Is it possibly because there’s at least a non-nominal cost with putting in a claim, whether you wind up getting the player or not?

    • http://www.google.com Tanuki Tanaka

      I doubt anyone not named Dave Littlefield would care about the cost if it means getting a good player.

    • Delia Enriquez

      Considering the year Gardner is having, it is surprising. I guess everyone figured the Yankees weren’t going to give him up anyway.

  • ACX

    A win today and the Yanks are back at their high water mark (6 above), and a real boost of having won two games CY Youngs started, only blowing the first one late, and if they win today, beating a 13 game winner having his best season. Not bad.

  • ACX

    Did Ian Kennedy make it through waivers? He was on the Yankees list earlier..

  • Deceptively Unathletic

    Anyone think they threw Brendon Ryan through as well?

    I don’t see how he fits this team with Drew being able to fill in for Jeter and Prado being able to fill in for Drew.. Wouldn’t a power bat off the bench make more sense?
    Ichiro has gotta go.

  • The Billy MartinVanBuren Boys

    There is no part of this waiver process that I even pretend to understand. If anyone cares to enlighten me as to why teams put players like Gardner on waivers, even if they can pull them back, please fell free, just use small words and type slowly…

    • TWTR

      The idea is that a a team that puts in a claim risks being assigned the contract of the player they claim because they cannot be 100% certain that the player they claim will be pulled back by the team seeking the waivers. That is what happened years ago when the Yankees’ claimed Canseco.

      So while many, if not most, players are pulled back, a team claiming a player can never be sure. And if you claim too many, that team’s payroll can suddenly rise by a lot.

    • blake

      It gives the teams options…..you try to pass as many players as you can through because you can then trade them past the trade deadline if you want to. Because the waivers are revokable there is very little risk to it…..most teams put many of their players on waivers….

    • Patrick

      A player is placed on revocable waivers and every other team has a chance to claim that player. If no team claims him, that player is through waivers and the team he plays for is free to trade him to any other team (until Aug 31). If another team DOES claim the player a few different things can happen:

      1. The team that owns the player’s contract can agree to a trade with the team that claimed him.
      2. The team that owns the player’s contract can just let the player go to the new team for nothing (what happened with Thornton)
      3. The team that owns the player’s contract can pull him off waivers and nothing happens but they are not allowed to him until the season is over.

      Generally teams will try to push all of their players through waivers just so they have as many trade options as possible.

      • Deep Thoughts

        Actually I think in Scenario #3, if the owning team pulls a player back off revocable waivers, the next time they try to waive the player during the waiver period, they must place him on irrevocable waivers. In that case, if another team makes a claim, only Scenarios #1 and #2 apply. The owning team cannot pull the player back a second time.

        • Patrick

          Hmm I guess there was a typo in my message. What I meant was, “3. The team that owns the player’s contract can pull him off waivers and nothing happens but they are not allowed to trade him until the season is over.”

          One classic example of irrevocable waivers is Manny Ramirez. He was put on waivers and was literally free to pick up by any team but nobody wanted his contract.

  • Scott

    Test

  • Shame Spencer

    Has anyone hear more on the new names from the Biogenesis case…?

    • HansDavenport

      Let’s not get that kind of thread going that is so Lohud, Let’s stick to waiver stuff.

    • Sweet Dick Willie

      Totally off-topic.

      • BKamm

        Wow, slam dunk!

    • 86w183

      MLB is seeking the names. Reports are there are at least five previously unnamed players who could be in trouble. Here’s hoping Big Papi is one of them