2015 Post-Draft Top 30 Prospects

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Thanks to the 2015 amateur draft and one minor trade, the Yankees added a swarm of new prospects to the farm system over the last several weeks, since I posted my Pre-Draft Top 30 Prospects List. Now that the draft signing deadline has come and gone, it’s time for a system update, because who doesn’t love prospect lists?

I considered waiting another week or so before posting this because of the upcoming trade deadline, but I figured it was worth posting now, as a snapshot in time before prospects are potentially traded away. I do expect the Yankees to make a deal or three at the deadline. They’re too good and too flawed not to, right? Chances are someone on this list won’t be in the organization this time next week.

Anyway, the only player to graduate to the big leagues since I posted by Pre-Draft Top 30 is Chasen Shreve. He’s two outs over the 50-inning rookie limit. As I did with the Pre-Draft Top 30, rather than post a simple 1-30 list, I’m going to break the prospects into groups because that’s more interesting. And remember, this is my personal list. You’re welcome to disagree. The cool thing is we can all be right — there’s no correct way to rank prospects. We all have opinions and they all stink. Away we go.

The Top Two

1. OF Aaron Judge (Pre-Draft Rank: 1)
2. RHP Luis Severino (Pre-Draft Rank: 2)

Same top two as before the draft and before the season. No reason to change things up. Judge hasn’t played in a week due to a supposedly minor day-to-day injury — he’s not on the DL and no, I don’t think he’s not playing because of some of kind of trade, that makes absolutely zero sense and the Yankees have never done anything like that before — but that’s not going to change my rankings. Both Judge and Severino are among the 50 best prospects in baseball, arguably among the top 30, and clearly the two best in New York’s system.

The Next Four

3. C Gary Sanchez (Pre-Draft Rank: 3)
4. RHP James Kaprielian (Pre-Draft Rank: N/A)
5. SS Jorge Mateo (Pre-Draft Rank: 7)
6. 1B Greg Bird (Pre-Draft Rank: 5)

Yeah, so things aren’t too clear after the top two. Slotting Kaprielian in was more difficult than I thought it would be — I think there are valid reasons to rank him as high as third and as low as sixth in the system. Can’t see him any lower than that. I think the perception he is low-upside is very unfair — I’m not saying he’s an ace, but he’s not exactly David Phelps either — in fact I think he’s the kind of pitching prospect who could exceed expectations as a four-pitch guy with command, especially if his late-spring velocity spike was legit. I like Kaprielian’s combination of medium-ish upside and high probability more than Mateo (high upside, low probability) and Bird (medium upside, medium probability).

The Injured Four

7. LHP Ian Clarkin (Pre-Draft Rank: 4)
8. 3B Eric Jagielo (Pre-Draft Rank: 6)
9. C Luis Torrens (Pre-Draft Rank: 8)
10. LHP Jacob Lindgren (Pre-Draft Rank: 12)

Gosh I wish I knew what was up with Clarkin. The latest reports say he hasn’t had elbow surgery but that isn’t exactly encouraging when he’s still yet to begin pitching in games. I can’t help but think back to Manny Banuelos in 2012, when he missed the season with a bone bruise in his elbow, then blew out his elbow during his rehab and needed Tommy John surgery in October. Yuck. Jagielo (knee), Torrens (shoulder), and Lindgren (elbow) are all out long-term with injuries too. Jagielo and Lindgren might come back late in the season but Torrens is done for the year. I love Torrens as a prospect and think the other three guys are safe bets to big leaguers of various calibers, assuming they get healthy.

Around The Horn, Sorta

11. SS Tyler Wade (Pre-Draft Rank: 10)
12. 2B Rob Refsnyder (Pre-Draft Rank: 11)
13. 3B Miguel Andujar (Pre-Draft Rank: 9)

Three very different infield prospects. Wade’s a no-doubt shortstop with zero power but good bat-to-ball skills and speed. Refsnyder is a bat first guy with questionable defense who is as big league ready as he’s going to get. Andujar is the most well-rounded player and has the highest upside of the three, but his overall performance hasn’t been great in the minors, and at some point it would be cool if the numbers start to come consistently.

The Four Righties of the Prospectocalypse

14. RHP Bryan Mitchell (Pre-Draft Rank: 13)
15. RHP Rookie Davis (Pre-Draft Rank: N/A because I’m an idiot)
16. RHP Drew Finley (Pre-Draft Rank: N/A)
17. RHP Brady Lail (Pre-Draft Rank: 20)

Kinda cool (and convenient) the four right-handers landed back-to-back-to-back-to-back like this. Mitchell spit hot fire out of the big league bullpen for a few weeks and is ready to help in that role, though the Yankees want him stretched out, which is understandable. Davis has made tremendous strides since being the team’s 14th round pick back in 2011, especially with his command. He’s a classic bulldog pitcher. Finley is sort of like the 2011 version of Davis but more projectable and with better draft day command. Lail is a high probability starter with four pitches and know-how. The Yankees did a tremendous job turning him into a legitimate prospect after taking him in the 18th round of the 2012 draft out of a high school in friggin’ Utah.

Low Ceiling, High Ceiling, And Everything Between

18. OF Ramon Flores (Pre-Draft Rank: 14)
19. OF Jake Cave (Pre-Draft Rank: 16)
20. SS Abi Avelino (Pre-Draft Rank: 21)
21. SS Thairo Estrada (Pre-Draft Rank: 29)
22. OF Leonardo Molina (Pre-Draft Rank: 26)
23. SS Kyle Holder (Pre-Draft Rank: N/A)

A collection of position players with different skill sets. Flores is an MLB ready lefty swinging outfielder who could end up carving out a ten-year career as a platoon bat. Cave is basically that as well, but a little further away and center field capable. Avelino, Estrada, and Holder are all lower level shortstops. Avelino (speed guy) and Estrada (contact guy) are both better hitters than Holder, who’s a better defender than those two as well as every other shortstop in the system. None of the three are gonna hit for power. Or at least aren’t expected to long-term. Molina is the most long-term project in the system — he has incredible natural tools and instincts, but is (still!) only 17 and not yet close to fully mature physically. The ultimate boom or bust prospect.

Reclamation Prospects

24. OF Tyler Austin (Pre-Draft Rank: 18)
25. RHP Domingo German (Pre-Draft Rank: 17)
26. RHP Austin DeCarr (Pre-Draft Rank: 19)
27. OF Mason Williams (Pre-Draft Rank: 22)
28. OF Slade Heathcott (Pre-Draft Rank: 23)
29. RHP Ty Hensley (Pre-Draft Rank: 28)
30. RHP Jose Ramirez (Pre-Draft Rank: 24)

All seven of these guys are trying to come back from something and rebuild their prospect stock. Austin has been hurt both this year and the last several years, and he’s not hitting in Triple-A at the moment. German, DeCarr, and Hensley are all working their way back from Tommy John surgery. Williams (shoulder) and Heathcott (quad) are currently on the MLB DL — they’ve both exhausted their rookie eligibility due to service time, but I don’t worry about that, it’s too much of a hassle — after, uh, turbulent careers to date. Turbulent’s a good word. Ramirez’s stuff is electric but the results don’t match, and his injury history is scary.

The Next Five

RHP Domingo Acevedo (Pre-Draft Rank: N/A)
SS Angel Aguilar (Pre-Draft Rank: 25)
LHP Jordan Montgomery (Pre-Draft Rank: 27)
RHP Branden Pinder (Pre-Draft Rank: N/A)
2B Tony Renda (Pre-Draft Rank: N/A)

No specific order here, the players are listed alphabetically. Acevedo has touched triple digits with his fastball and his frame is ridiculous (listed at 6-foot-7 and 190 lbs!), but his command is spotty and his breaking ball isn’t defined. The upside is incredible. The chances of him reaching his ceiling are also microscopic. Montgomery, Pinder, and Renda are all boring-ish lower upside guys who are safe bets to contribute at the MLB level in some capacity, even if they’re only extra players. Pinder’s done that already. Aguilar has as much offensive upside as any of the team’s shortstop prospects aside from Mateo, but, you know, they can’t all be in the top 30.

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  • joeman

    could they be interested in Ben Zobrist

    • Robinson Tilapia

      That’s the first thing you think of after reading this?

    • Some Asshole

      Zobrist would probably fall short of the top 30, just because his long-term upside isn’t there. I don’t think we’ll be chanting Zobrist’s name in the bleachers in ten years.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I’d rank him just above Kyle Holder, just to rub it in.

      • joeman

        yea probably better off with what they have at 2nd for the rest of the year….who’s talking about 10 years…in 10 years you won’t be chanting any of the current yankees in the bleachers

  • blake

    I’d rank Mitchell in the top 10 if they’d make him a reliever.

    • pat

      I’d be happy with the Dellin approach. Start him until he proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that he cannot possibly be a starter then make his transition.

    • DZ

      I’d rank him in the top 10 as a starter. I don’t see the logic in having a flamethrower with success at AAA (who admittedly struggles to throw strikes) higher than Clarkin and Torrens.

      • blake

        I’m not sure he’s ever going to be a good starter…..I think it’s possible he could be a dynamite reliever.

  • DZ

    Mike it seems like you weigh upside significantly higher than predictability no? Clarkin and Torrens seem pretty high to me considering they aren’t going to play this year. Im pretty familiar with torrens, but can someone tell me Clarkin’s long term outlook?

    • blake

      pretty much everyone that ranks prospects favors upside of predictability……not saying that’s always right…..but it’s kinda the way it always is.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      If healthy? Mid rotation +.

    • http://riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I go back and forth by the year it seems, sometimes upside over probability, sometimes the opposite. Clarkin’s a four-pitch lefty who throws strikes. He’s sort of a lefty Kaprielian.

      • LazerTown

        With a mysterious ailment.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Mystery to us.

        • http://riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Twist ending: The injury exists but Ian Clarkin doesn’t.

          • Some Asshole

            It’s all in our heads.

            • IVoted4Kodos

              I’d like to know what dan’s dingleberries have to say on the subject.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    We should be pretty damn impressed with how far Lail and Davis have come. That’s for sure.

    Surprised by how high Kaprelian ranked but, after reading Mike’s explanation, I totally get it, and do agree. Can’t wait to see him in games.

    Would have rather have seen a higher-upside guy holding up the rear rather than Ramirez, but it’s throwing darts at the wall by that point.

    Surprised to not see guys like Palma and Fowler not even make the 35. Would have been cool to have a Wilkerman or two sneak in there somewhere.

    Great list. Great job. This is why you keep us coming back, since the pay here to comment sure ain’t great.

    • LazerTown

      I’m not impressed.

    • LazerTown

      To me Bird should be a bit higher. Success in AAA is huge.

      • http://riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        He’s been there like a week.

        • LazerTown

          It’s been a good week though.

    • Chip

      Yeah, I might have bounced Ramirez for Fowler but really a well thought out list.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Nick Goody FTW.

  • Still Stucky

    #9 for a 18 year old catcher who’s never played above SS ball and who’s out for a year with shoulder surgery strikes me as aggressive.

    • http://riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      It is, but I’m a big fan.

  • Chip

    I wonder if the Yankees are about ready to move Jose Ramirez. He seems like a AAAA reliever but his work in MLB has been so few and far between that I’m not sure that’s an entirely fair judgement.

    • DZ

      I feel like they have so many other better options for relievers that he’s fallen out of favor. Do we think Burawa being lengthened out as a starter is because they have enough relievers or because he’s longterm better suited to start?

      • LazerTown

        Like anyone that can throw strikes?

      • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

        Burawa might be a 40 man roster casualty this offseason so I could understand why’d they would go the starter route with him.

        Gotta find some value in his arm perhaps.

    • Still Stucky

      few and far between AND almost no body of work.

      He’s pitched 13 innings in the MLs.

      13 innings.

      • Some Asshole

        Though it must be said that the Yankees failed on David Carpenter because he put up six AMAZING, WORLD-CHANGING innings in Washington.

        • LazerTown

          I’m still convinced Joe was trying to get rid of him for some reason

          • Some Asshole

            That may be. Just like I wasn’t on the HE SUCKS bandwagon after 18 innings, likewise, those same folks are pointing to the six whole inning he’s pitched in the past five weeks as yet another CashFail.

    • Still Stucky

      You know who once pitched 67 innings his rookie season on the way to a 5.51 ERA?

      The greatest relief pitcher of all time.

      • LazerTown

        Esmil?

        • Preston

          Mo

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      The stuff is there for him to be a good late inning pitcher.

    • mitch

      I wouldn’t say they’re ready to move him because he hasn’t seen many major league innings. Other guys have just been better and he hasn’t really earned an extended look. He’s been solid but unspectacular as a reliever in AAA, and the walks are a pretty big issue.

  • LazerTown

    This is all wrong. At least one of these players won’t make it.

  • Slappin Da Bass

    That low on Degano?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Someone just drafted is going to have a hard time breaking in unless they were the first rounder or a surprise name on the board with that sort of talent, like Finley.

      • Travis Lincoln

        I thought maybe we would see Josh Rogers or Isaiah Gilliam on the top 30 list. Lower half of course.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Total “numbers 28-45 are completely interchangeable” fodder.

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      The system has more upper level depth (AAA/AA ) than its had in years.

      That’s not an indictment on Degano , it just points to the progression this farm system has made since 2013.

  • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

    “15. RHP Rookie Davis (Pre-Draft Rank: N/A because I’m an idiot)”

    Nope far from it , if you could predict a 2 mph velocity bump (91-94 in 2014/93-96 hitting 97/98) then you’d be working in some teams F.O instead of having a blog.

    Yes his mental approach to the game has improved but the extra velocity helps as well.

    • blake

      That’s an 80 name he has though……

    • Rick

      I’m not sure anyone can predict a 2 mph velocity bump – those employed in front offices included.

  • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

    Nick Goody couldn’t even make the “next five” list? I don’t know if that’s a good thing or bad thing.

  • dave_8

    Sanchez too high if he’s still not considered a real catcher after all this time.

    • Rick

      He’s only too high if you don’t believe in the bat. I still think the bat is special and he has a chance to truly be an impact hitter in the bigs. I believe it’s the best bat in the system. The only reason I don’t think he’s our top prospect is because of his apparent inability to catch. If he could truly catch, you’re talking about a potential MVP.

      • CashmanNinja

        I wouldn’t throw potential All-Star around with Sanchez. He could be a very solid MLB player — especially if he sticks behind the plate, but considering some of the bats out there I don’t think he’d have much of a chance. There are very few catchers who can be MVP worthy. Buster Posey is one such catcher because his offense is that good and he calls a pretty good game. There are guys with lesser offense that can make an impact, but unless Sanchez becomes Yadier Molina on defense/play calling then I also don’t see any MVP votes in his future. Maybe he could be an All-Star, but MVP is very, very difficult considering some of the talent out there.

        • Rick

          It wasn’t totally my assessment of him, it’s Keith Law’s … I just happen to agree with it.

      • dave_8

        I think it’s the opposite. I think it’s still high b/c some here think he can catch. He was left back at AA to work on defense in his 6th pro season. And despite repeating the level, the only difference offensively was some more pop (but he only had 32 xtra base hits in 2014); the rest was the same or worse.

    • LiamInAlbany

      I’m not sure, Montero was still ranked pretty high in his heyday and I think the Yankees knew he wasn’t a long term catcher at that point.

      • dave_8

        I think the same about Sanchez — except Montero’s rank was based on a special bat. When Sanchez signed, he was supposed to have a special bat, but he never hit on Montero’s level. At age 20, Montero was hitting at AAA better than any full season Sanchez had at any level. And even that was considered slightly off from what he had been at lower levels.

        Slightly better catcher (more athletic) than Montero but not nearly the same hitter. Sanchez doesn’t hit well enough to make you live with bad defense. No matter how wrong-headed, comparisons were made to Piazza and Cabrera, no one utters those names when talking about Sanchez. Big difference if he was considered a good catcher — but he isn’t.

  • Mike Myers

    Where is “Miguel FLAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!” ? he needs to be top 30 on name alone.

    • Mike Myers

      replying to myself – Flames = .946 OPS @17

  • T Fish

    Pretty much agree with all…except I would replace Jose Ramirez with Nick Goody (he’s been great this year).

    • Robinson Tilapia

      “Whoops, I forgot Goody” in 3…2….

    • CashmanNinja

      I’m not a Jose Ramirez at all. None. He’s got very good stuff, but he’s simply not a major league pitcher. He melts down. They put him in a game with a huge cushion and he still gives up a bunch of runs and makes games closer than they should be. I just don’t think he can mentally handle NY. I’d take Goody over him any day of the week.

  • Mike Myers

    As I look at this list I see a lot of names drafted recently (post cash fixing the system). Maybe we should give him a break?

    • Chip

      Don’t confuse a list that lays out the 30 best prospects in the system to a league-wide list of prospects.

      If you put Tex in a race with Brian McCann, Jose Molina and Albert Pujols he might win, that’s not the same as being fast though. Miguel Andujar may be the 13th best prospect in the system, but that’s not the same as being a good prospect as compared to the 13th best prospect on other squads.

      • Stan

        Yankees are somewhere in the middle of the pack from most reports I have seen.. they aren’t a mess and they aren’t setting the world on fire… for a team that has consistently picked low in the draft that’s pretty good to me from where it was.

        • Preston

          I think they’d rank higher at the moment. Severino and Judge have both moved into the top 20, Sanchez has regained some of his prior top prospect luster and Mateo is shooting up prospect lists, not to mention how many other teams top prospects are graduating this year. I think the Yankees system is comfortably in the top 10.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Or not, considering both ranked highly on this list at some point and were both considered picks that carried more than average risk to them.

        • Chip

          Yeah but the problem is that they didn’t graduate from the list, they both fell off of it.

          I think that Culver actually paints the clearer picture. He was a first overall pick who is now what, the 8th best SS prospect in the system behind Mateo, Holder, Wade, Avelino, Estrada, Aguilar and Dermis Garcia.

          Bichette is a complete bust.

          The system is in good shape but a lot of that is due to the success of later round guys and international free agents. Their track record in the first round, not so much…

          • Preston

            Prospects are always going to fail at high rates. The average 6 year WAR total for a guy taken 21-30 is 1.44. You’re complaining that four guys taken 29th, 30th, 32nd, and 51st not working out is some indictment of player development. When it was always the most likely outcome.

            • Chip

              I’m not saying it is a failure of player development – I’m saying they were bad draft picks – there’s a difference. If they were good players who failed to reach their potential then that would be a failure of player development. Culver, Henry and Bichette were just picks wasted on bad players. I don’t care what the coaching staff is, you’re not making those guys good players.

              • Preston

                The only one of those picks that was really questionable at the time was Culver. CJ Henry was an elite athlete and DBJr had one of the best power grades among HS prospects in his draft class. And for all of Cito’s failures at the plate, he is a plus defender at SS. Which is a hard to find trait.

                • Chip

                  They were all crappy picks that left every single draft analyst saying what the hell?

                  In fact, the Bichette pick was so awful that most people chalked it up to Girardi’s relationship with Bichette’s father.

                  • Preston

                    No, that was just Culver. They saw a kid who wasn’t on a lot of radars because he was a cold weather guy. They thought he could be a plus defender at SS and although he was raw, they thought he could develop with the bat. They were half right.
                    BA mocked Henry at 17 prior in 2005 and said he had as much upside as anyone in the draft. Bichette was ranked 108th on BAs pre-draft board, which means he was considered a really good HS baseball player. Yes 51 was probably a reach but pre-slotting the draft process wasn’t so linear in how talent came off the board. They signed DBJr for 750k, they gave Greg Bird 1.1 MM and Jake Cave 825k that year. It wasn’t an awful pick. It hasn’t turned out well but you can only call it crappy with the benefit of hindsight.

      • Some Asshole

        Hey, everybody! The top 30 list all have Yankees on it! Suck it, Boston!

    • Robinson Tilapia

      When do you consider the process to “fixing the system” to have started? I say it absolutely predates Cito/DBJ.

  • lightSABR

    Brady Lail: out of MY high school in friggin’ Utah.

    (Therefore, the next Yankees homegrown ace.)

  • Asher Dratel

    I’m irrationally upset that Cave wasn’t able to maintain his ridiculously un-maintainable OBP numbers from the beginning of the season.

  • Tom

    I’d put Mateo ahead of Kaprielian and Sanchez because of his upside. He could get his feet wet in Tampa before the season is over.

    • Still Stucky

      Yanks were already aggressive with Mateo starting him in full season A to begin with. And while his bat has gotten better, he clearly still needs work on D.

      I suspect they’ll just leave him where is his for the year.

    • mitch

      I’d say Sanchez is the ultimate upside guy. If he can catch then he’s probably an above average MLB player. If he can’t then he’s going to struggle to make anyone’s roster.

    • Some Asshole

      FWIW, the three through six probably don’t have large gaps between them. Playing a guy in Single-A fifth is quite high, in my view, and certainly due to his performance thus far this year.

  • Jack

    What would it take to land Jon Niese, keeping in mind the Mets payroll restrictions and need for position players, and would you do it?

    • Still Stucky

      Six-man rotation?

    • Aldukes

      I mean, Kazmir was traded for two lower level prospects with pretty good numbers, right? I’d imagine around the same. I can’t even begin to guess on who. I’d do it though.

      • Stan

        neise would cost less than Kazmir in my opinion

    • LiamInAlbany

      Flip Tony Renda to em because why the hell not

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Can we just pretend we read the goddamn post?

      • Some Asshole

        Stephen Drew sucks.

      • Jack

        OK. Then how about, “Which package of top 30 prospects, non top 30 prospects and big team players would you trade to get Jon Niese and would you do it?”

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I GOTS SUMTHIN TO SAY ABOUT OL BAG OF DICKS AND NONE OF YOUR SILLY CONVENTIONS ARE GUNNA STOP MEEEEEEEEEEE.

        • mitch

          i wouldn’t give up any package of top 30 prospects for jon niese. I’d maybe do a one for one for somebody on the back end of the list. He’s a decent pitcher but they really don’t need him. They’re in pretty good position to make the playoffs already. At this point i’m looking for a guy who can make an impact in October.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            They can have Jose Ramirez. I have no interest in Niese, however.

    • cxz

      It wouldn’t take much, I bet Pirela would be enticing, he’s not going to draw much more than a AAAA player with a taste of MLB experience and team control. But, no, please no. And how this relates to prospect rankings,idk

  • blake

    Collin Cowherd ranks Severino and Sanchez way lower

    • Chip

      Did you see ESPN’s response?

      They don’t give a crap as long as you don’t say anything about Roger Goodell or point out that one of your coworkers is a friggin moron.

      • blake

        Pretty much….weak sauce ESPN not that I expect anything more from them. I used to listen to cowherd he’s been saying stuff like this for years…..shocking that so many people are shocked he’d say something stupid

        • mitch

          isn’t he leaving espn anyway?

          • LiamInAlbany

            Yup, heading to FOX

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        He’s leaving in a week. I don’t see a point to them getting hugely involved.

        • Chip

          Suspend him for the week.

        • Chip

          They could have suspended him for the week.

          That shows they have standards and doesn’t really cost them anything.

    • LiamInAlbany

      It’s a thinking man’s game!

    • Dalek Jeter

      I like Cowherd but I don’t know much about his baseball knowledge, especially in relation to prospect rankings. Knows plenty about college sports and the NFL, but baseball wise I’ve always found him lacking.

      • 86w183

        MLB prospects rank about # 25 on Cowherd’s knowledge scale. His opinion in that area means less than nothing. I think he’s a terrific talent, but o question he is an NFL/NBA/CFB guy first and foremost.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Exactly, Cowherd’s a very smart dude, and knows the NFL, college sports, and the NBA better than most…but I think that baseball prospects aren’t exactly his lane. And that’s fine, and it’s also fine that he puts prospect lists together, I just think they should be taken with a grain of salt.

  • IVoted4Kodos

    I am irrationally excited about Kaprielian. In the narrative that exists in my head, everything’s going to break his way and he’s going to develop into a much better pitcher than anyone expected and stick it to everyone who whined about the pick at the time.

    • Some Asshole

      It just feels like a name that would develop into a second-tier starter. Not an ace, but very solid in his own right. I hope it happens. Mostly because I hope for a nice haul after having to watch the 2014 team.

      • LiamInAlbany

        Kinda like Shields? Or *gasp* AJ Burnett?

        • IVoted4Kodos

          *Irrationally angry response about how much Burnett sucks*

        • Some Asshole

          Or a Lackey.

      • ropeadope1

        check espn mail.

        • Some Asshole

          Duly noted. You could give my drop a look if you’d like, but he’d be a weak link in your rotation.

    • LiamInAlbany

      As much as I was pulling for Whitley in the 1st round, I do like Kap a lot and I think he will end up surprising people.

    • blake

      I think there is reason to be excited….he’s pretty good and he could move fast

  • blake

    I don’t have really any problems with this list

  • LiamInAlbany

    Once again I put my money for this year on the wrong pitching prospect horse. Get well soon DeCarr

  • Reggie C.

    Miguel Andujar’s second half offensive surge last season had alot of eyeballs (mine included) on him. I really thought something had clicked and that he’d be on his way to catching some real prospect heat. I guess it was not to happen in 2015. Been disappointed with his play the whole season.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      There’s definitely signs of Miguel’s Summer Jam 2015 heating up, though.

    • Jorge Mateo a/k/a The Flash

      It is how you finish. If he figures out a level in the 2nd half – that is all that matters. Minor leagues are about development not necessarily full season stats – especially below AA ball.

  • Brian Cashman is watching

    From Keith Law’s chat yesterday:

    Ken (NY)

    What’s Kaprelian’s ceiling?

    Klaw (1:54 PM)

    Mid-rotation starter probability, chance to be a 2.

    You are permitted to get irrationally excited.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Bill (NY)

      What about Severino?

      Klaw (1:56 PM)

      *hangs up*

      • Brian Cashman is watching

        I deserved that one.

    • Jorge Mateo a/k/a The Flash

      I really like the kap. The one pick I wanted also was Jon Harris, who went one pick before Holder OR Chris Shaw who went one pick after Holder

  • pfoj

    I’m a weird weird person with regards to sports numbers. I need to know if the Yankees will let Judge wear the Gretzky numerals at the big league level.

    • AllPraiseBeToMo

      Why not? If he wants to he can wear it.

      • pfoj

        Because it bothers my neurotic mind and I won’t like it.

    • Some Asshole

      He may just wear a jersey with the square root of 9801 on it.

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      Me too. I care about numbers in sports way too much.

    • Jorge Mateo a/k/a The Flash

      Bernie got to keep his “51” camp number so maybe

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        If he wants 99, I’m sure he’d get it.

    • D$

      I’d love it if Judge came up and wore 99. Particularly if he mashes. Stick his finger right in the face of all those “if the Yankees retire any more numbers, they’ll need to get to triple digits” idiots.

  • Jorge Mateo a/k/a The Flash

    Kaprelian deserves to be in the top 10 and possibly 5th.

    I have Mateo as the third best prospect

    I am giving more love Fowler and he should be included in top 30

    I am also still putting Campos in my top 30

    Give me Davis over Lail but Davis has stuff to be in the top 10

    I am not putting any reliever in the top 10 – just cannot do it especially where more often than not the best relievers are failed starters at the mlb level

    • grandedan

      I think I was a bigger fan of Fowler last year. His slugging has just collapsed this year. His OBP is better though and so has his strikeout rate but where has the power gone?

  • Stan

    By my count that’s 3 of this years draftees in your misdeason top 30 (did I miss any?)… That’s pretty encouraging

  • Cuso

    6’7 and 190?!

    Eat something, please.

    • Some Asshole

      I feel like just my left butt cheek weighs more than that.

      • Bubba

        I never knew Kim K frequented this blog. Adds a bit of clarity to the handle.

        I’ll let myself out now.

    • JacobyWanKenobi

      I’m almost 6’6″” and I don’t feel comfortable under 220 :/

      • Captain Sensible

        Kristaps Porzingis plays baseball?

    • Dalek Jeter

      Yeah, he must be just like…wiring.

  • Madrugador

    The 40.8% bust rate for position players and 62.7% rate for pitchers are surprisingly sobering.
    Where did Kaprielian get assigned?

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      He hasn’t been assigned yet.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Is he still sitting in the hallway?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      He has not, that we know of, as of yet. I’d imagine SI.

    • W.B. Mason Williams

      Straight to the bust list.

  • JacobyWanKenobi

    Is there a rule preventing a player out of highschool doing something like “I won’t sign unless X team drafts me, I’ll just go to college instead”

    • Dalek Jeter

      Not at all, I doubt he’d say it publicly because it’d completely ruin his negotiating stance, but I’m sure some kids say things like that privately all the time.

    • blake

      no rule against it that I know of….but there is nothing to stop the other teams from drafting you anyway…..and not many high schoolers are going to turn down high pick signing bonus money if they seriously want to be a pro baseball player.

    • Stan

      They already do that

    • cxz

      I don’t see why there would be. But really, if you’re expecting one particular team out of 30 to draft you, you may want to rethink your strategy

      • JacobyWanKenobi

        I was thinking more in the case of like top HS prospects that are projected in the early first round essentially just getting their pick.

        • cxz

          Well, they can’t just block a team from drafting them, unless you have an Aiken situation where there’s an exception. They can just choose not to sign and hope to re-enter the draft with the same stock, but theres no way to really demand a team

          • JacobyWanKenobi

            They’d have to be selected by another team who knows they can’t sign them in order to prevent another team from selecting and signing them right? Idk i was just hypothesizing

            • blake

              I mean hypothetically yea if a guy for example wanted to be a Cub…..and the Cubs had the 5th pick…..

              he could tell the other clubs he only wants to sign with the Cubs…..but you’re costing yourself money by doing that because the 4 teams ahead of the Cubs could offer you more money…..especially if you’re good enough to go #1 overall……

              so yea it’s possible…..but it’s certainly not something you’d broadcast for a lot of reasons and I think it would have to be a unique circumstance like that where you’re a top talent and the team you want to play for is picking high that year……..players aren’t going to leave millions on the table to sign with say the Yankees at the bottom of the draft if they could go in the top 10…..that would be dumb

        • LazerTown

          Can’t do anything to prevent being picked. Give me the money over picking the team. There are millions of dollars difference between slots at the top

        • 86w183

          Bryce Harper tried that because he wanted to get drafted by the Yankees. No team will pay much attention to that.

          What they should pay attention to is when a player and his father (who is well to do) tell ALL the teams he’s going to college no matter what. The Yankees ignored Gerrit Cole and his dad and it cost them dearly.

          If I had a son who had a clear attitude that it’s team-A (or a small group of teams) or bust I would combine strategies, putting out public notice that we are not signing with MLB and privately letting the preferred team(s) know it didn’t apply to them.

          By the way, prospects do this privately every year in a variety of ways. For example I know a kid who told most teams he could not sign for under $ 1 M…. but told his two favorite teams he would sign for slot. He got slot.

    • Chip

      some players say that if they aren’t drafted in a particular round that they’ll go back to school so I don’t see any reason why they wouldn’t feel the same way about teams. That said, it’s a lot harder to control who drafts you than it is where you’re drafted.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Man, slippery slope slides Campos (Vincent or Jose) straight off the top 30.

    • ÅndyInSunnyDB

      It’s “Vicente”

  • grandedan

    It’s way too early but the Yanks exchanged Drob for Miller in a large part to get an extra high pick and that goes to Holder? Not a great debut so far and it’s not like he’s 19 either.

    We’ll see I guess.

    • Chip

      Andrew Miller + Holder > David Robertson

      • cxz

        I like Miller more alone more than Robertson honestly(I still like D-Rob, but we did the right thing)

        • Tom

          Robertson had the habit of getting behind almost everyone before coming back to get them.

      • grandedan

        What you really mean is Andrew Miller > David Robertson which is exactly my point.

        • blake

          they are both good…..but they chose the really good pitcher and a draft pick over the really good pitcher and no draft pick.

          • Chip

            smart use of resources.

            • blake

              at the time I was in favor of keeping the known quantity in Drob over the guy I hadn’t seen in pinstripes yet in Miller……after seeing the dynamic between Miller and Betances though and just how dominant they are together…..it’s hard to say it wasn’t the right decision.

          • grandedan

            Not illogical especially given the relative prices but look at the draft pick? He would be fine further down but not really what you are looking for in a top pick.

            • blake

              i mean he’s like 100 AB’s into his career…..and you don’t have a clue who will be available to draft when you make the decision they made on Drob and Miller…..the thought process seemed sound even if Holder busts……and it’s way way too soon to even really talk about his performance.

              • grandedan

                Except for the fact that the pick was regarded as questionable at the time for the very reason his first 100 ABs have looked so dismal. And his fielding hasn’t been exactly superlative either.

      • 86w183

        You left out the $ 10 M difference in the contracts…. Miller makes $ 2.5 M / year less.

    • blake

      don’t forget they also decided to exchange Drob for Miller because Miller is really freaking good.

    • 86w183

      I’m hopeful, but not optimistic. Didn’t like the pick on draft day and said so. Won’t be upset if I’m proven wrong, but will be surprised.

    • Frittoman626

      Can we give the kid a couple of years before you start calling him a bust. Who cares if he hasn’t had a good start to his pro career, it takes time to make adjustments. His greatest tool will be his defense. For all we know he could end up being what Jose Iglesias is (hitting better than what he was projected).

      • grandedan

        I doing a word search but I still can’t find “bust” in my post.

  • grandedan

    I suppose everyone has different standards for a prospect list. If the likelihood of actually helping a major league team in a significant way is part of the standard, Goody is probably in the top 10. I’d put him ahead of Rumbelow now and is pretty much next line for the bullpen but for a starter type. Have my doubts with Lindgren but would love to see him again when he’s healthy.

    • Chip

      Feel free to start your own blog

  • Dos Luises

    No love for Dustin Fowler?

    • calripyankee

      I was gonna say the same thing.. He’s having a “quiet” breakout season, if that’s possible??

      • Dos Luises

        He was mentioned as “Rising” in BA’s Mid-season Top 10.

  • The Original Drew

    I rip and I rhyme, I rhyme and I rip, that’s the way Dylan spits. I SPOT HOT FIRE.

    But seriously I guess my only surprise on this list is how high Kaprielian is on this list.

  • grandedan

    No matter what list you prefer or what your standards are, the dearth of high end starters is pretty alarming after Severino. So it’s Clarkin (broken) and Kap who hasn’t thrown a pitch and then what else? A bunch of Phelps types and more broken pieces.

    The Yanks really need to work on this. Shame they didn’t spring for Alvarez. I actually thought he was more important for the org than Moncada.

  • grandedan

    No matter what list you prefer or what your standards are, the dearth of high end starters is pretty alarming after Severino. So it’s Clarkin (broken) and Kap who hasn’t thrown a pitch and then what else? A bunch of Phelps types and more broken pieces.

    The Yanks really need to work on this. Shame they didn’t spring for Alvarez. I actually thought he was more important for the org than Moncada.

  • W.B. Mason Williams

    Half of the top 10 are either at AAA or deserve to be (ala the injured Jagermeister)

  • calripyankee

    Way too high on Andujar and Torrens.. Think you’re setting yourself up for disappointment with both..

    • Dalek Jeter

      Right around where MLB had them coming into the season.

      • Tom

        Is Torrens supposed to be good defensively?

        • Dalek Jeter

          MLB.com’s write up:

          Scouting grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 45 | Run: 35 | Arm: 60 | Field: 55 | Overall: 50

          Torrens mostly played shortstop in Venezuela, but the Yankees liked his potential behind the plate and moved him there as soon as they signed him for $1.3 million in 2012. Many of New York’s top catching prospects in recent years have been offense-first players, but Torrens profiles as a solid defender who can contribute with the bat. He’ll miss the entire 2015 season after surgery to repair a torn labrum in his shoulder in January, but he’ll still be 19 when he returns in 2016.

          He has a strong arm and has had no problems figuring out the quick footwork and transfer he needs as a catcher, throwing out 41 percent of basestealers in his first two pro seasons. Torrens’ receiving is still a work in progress but he has the hands and athleticism to improve in that regard.

          Torrens has a mature approach at the plate, showing patience and using the whole field. He has a quick bat and should provide double-digit home run power once he gets stronger. He may lack Gary Sanchez’s potential impact bat but has a better chance of remaining a catcher.

        • W.B. Mason Williams

          I’ve read “advanced feel for catching” for where he is right now.

          • Dos Luises

            Cannon arm.

        • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

          http://riveraveblues.com/2015/01/prospect-profile-luis-torrens-113464/

          Long story short , the shoulder surgery & his pitch framing ability will be the two things in the next few seasons that will determine his defensive ceiling

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      I have no problem with thier respective rankings.

  • disqus_SYUi2KdNZk

    After watching Refsnyder’s cup of coffee at the show, it seems to me he should be developed as a Gardner-esque outfielder. Yanks may be hurting him by trying to mold him at 2B where he does not look comfortable.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I don’t know that he has the speed or the defensive instincts to be Gardner. If he’s not playing 2nd he’s probably a 4th OF’er.

      • W.B. Mason Williams

        cosigned.

        Same power, worse defense, worse speed, worse bat.

        • Mike Myers

          Thrice – they are nailing him to 2nd, because he has no future in the OF.

        • Dalek Jeter

          I’d say the defense is several steps behind Gardner, because Gardner can play CF, (especially if he sticks with the Yankees, where 81 games include Death Valley) if he shifts back to the OF, can Refs even handle both corners?

    • disqus_SYUi2KdNZk

      Then Refs may be toast, which would be sad. He seems like a great kid.

  • Joe

    What about Nasty Nathan Cortes?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Probably in the “still raw, still far away” camp.

  • Mike Myers

    When should we expect the international haul of 14 to start making a dent on this list?

    • Alkaline

      2-3 years?

  • Mike Myers

    apparently the Os are going into sell mode after the sweep!

    • 86w183

      They can sell us Machado if it makes them feel better

      • blake

        he’s finally becoming a stud.

        • 86w183

          Finally? He just turned 23 this month. His FA coincides with the end of Headley’s contract. Signing him and Harper in the off-season prior to 2019 would be a very nice Christmas.

    • W.B. Mason Williams

      It wasn’t a back-breaker by any measure but they’re definitely starting to feel a tingle in their spine.

  • Dick M

    I think we’re getting there ………….. next step in the evolution of the system is more front end starters types. DeCarr, Hensley and Clarkin could really change the picture here. If those 3 are healthy and performing well then it’s a whole new deal.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      DCA. :)

      • Dick M

        What did Groucho say, “I’d never join a club who would have me as a member”?

  • Frittoman626

    The guys in the “Reclamation Prospects” part made me really sad. That is basically a reminder to the people who hug prospects to hard why you shouldn’t always hang on to them.

    • Tom

      They hope that there’s a Kris Bryant, Bryce Harper, Carlos Correa or Mike Trout in the system.

    • 86w183

      That’s the great challenge in player development. You got to know when to hold ’em, know when to fold ’em….. hmm, might be a song in there

    • Asher Dratel

      I would say Heathcott and Williams’ stock probably went up this year given they showed they were capable of performing at the ML level. Heathcott’s health has always been his issue.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Agreed.

      • W.B. Mason Williams

        “Lower” wasn’t really an option for those two coming in.

  • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

    Nice debut for Dermis Garcia SS/3B GCL 2
    One of last year’s very high profile IFA signees

    2-3 2 rbi’s.

    Only played 5 innings pulled out of the game in the top of the 6th… maybe he got traded?!
     ¯_(?)_/¯

    • Preston

      Put him on the list!

    • W.B. Mason Williams

      How many orgs can say they have a shortstop hitting .667 with 2 RBIs in every single game he’s played in?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      He’s got a lot of the skin in the game.

      • dkidd

        brilliant

    • PMian

      Dermis Garcia was one the highest rated IFA signings by the Yankees last year. Spent the entire year to date rehabbing from some undisclosed injury. Pulling him from his first game back after 5 innings would likely be well founded caution. Now I can begin dreaming of an all Garcia left side of the infield, Dermis at third and Wilkerman at short, perhaps next year at Charleston.

      • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

        That just might be the plan with Park playing 2nd base

  • Jorge Mateo a/k/a The Flash

    Severino back scheduled to start tonight – maybe Judge makes a return too

  • Jorge Mateo a/k/a The Flash

    Dietrich Enns getting some love on twitter today as under the radar flyer for coming season

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      Wilkerson Garcia getting love from B.A today

      http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/?1437751908

      Steve (Queens): We know about young guys like Lara, Robles, and Espinoza bursting onto the scene recently. Are there any other teenage guys off to good starts that could be potential stars?

      Ben Badler: If you want to keep in beneath the full-season leagues, Yankees SS Wilkerman Garcia is making a huge impression in the GCL. One of several big-bonus international signings last year from the organization and he’s probably going to be the highest-ranked one at the end of the season. Sweet swing and advanced approach from both sides of the plate and the reports I have on the tools are better than they were when he signed.

      • grandedan

        Too many Garcias,

      • Robinson Tilapia

        That’s WilkerMAN Garcia to you.

        • W.B. Mason Williams

          Part of the 10 year deal he signs in 2025 should stipulate that his 3 baseball playing sons should be named Wilkerson, Wilkerboy and Wilkerlad.

  • Captain Sensible

    Am I the only one who thinks Severino could be the pitcher we are talking about trading for? As a starter or reliever? Or Bryan Mitchell back in the bullpen?

    • W.B. Mason Williams

      I’d rather they just let him develop. There’s “aggressive” and then there’s “oh shit”.

      Find a Chipotle to satisfy your ravenous hunger.

    • Frittoman626

      Why would we trade FOR Severino when we already have him?

      • Robinson Tilapia
        • Frittoman626

          Touché

      • Rick

        He just means that he could fill the need and we wouldn’t actually have to give up assets to obtain another starting pitcher.

      • Captain Sensible

        Ha. Just sayin’. I’d rather turn him loose as a 5/6 starter than trade him or other assets for alot of the meh pitchers Ive been hearing about. If Pineda or Tanaka goes down so do our WS hopes, I don’t think even trading for Cueto will fix that scenario

    • grandedan

      I think the Yanks would like to use Severino in the bullpen later this season but it all depends on the pitcher. He’s by far their highest value prospect and they don’t want to take any excessive risk but if he seems ready and is feeling strong I think they might use him the way Price was used a few years ago.

  • dkidd

    this is my semi-annual reminder that severino has an 80 anagram tool:

    evil neurosis
    olive sunrise
    resuses violin
    universe soil

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Olive Sunrise was such a slut.

    • Dalek Jeter

      “Evil Neurosis” is a fantastic Black Metal band name.

  • HoopDreams

    #FreeIanClarkin

    • Tom

      I wonder how severe his injury is. Didn’t someone say he might not need surgery?

  • grandedan

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2015/07/24/minor-league-notes-9/

    Good write up from Jennings. Looks like Denbo is calling the shots now. Judge obviously in Witness Protection.

  • W.B. Mason Williams

    We joke about a player’s injuries being in their head, but I wonder if there have been MLB players that have been forced out of the game due to a complete psychotic break.

    John Rocker aside.

    • n0exit

      Not baseball, but the centre from the Bucks who had some mental health issues walked away from the game just this year I think.There would definitely have been players who mentally struggled or had mental health issues in pro sports, both in the minors and majors, but we’d never hear about it, and it probably ended their careers.

  • dave_8

    The Judge Watch is missing his 88th K.

    And interesting thing I noticed on the buggy bref site that seems to be missing the latest season some mornings for some reason. But that’s not the interesting part. Judge weighed 255lb this morning — when it showed only thru 2014. Up to 275lb this season. 230lb in college. Still think he’s not going 300+? He’s going to be a pioneer in the OF, an anomaly — or have to switch positions.

    • Tom

      Where does it show he’s 275 now?

      • dave_8
        • Tom

          Is that too much for someone his height?

          • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread
            • Bo Knows

              You do know that context is everything. by the same logic every pro-athlete in the world is technically obese

          • dave_8

            It depends. He has the frame and they say that he’s carrying that weight now due to his athleticism. But even those reports seemed surprised that he still could. I’m just wondering what happens after a few more pounds. Maybe he enters the 1b talk (his wingspan might help with those errant throws from Refs) — or maybe he’s the biggest capable OF in history. There’s been that height before — but not with that weight. And he won’t get leaner as time goes on. He’s going to marble a bit and his bone structure says more rather than ‘stop here.’

            People compare him to Stanton. But he’s 35lbs heavier, and 2 yrs younger.

            http://www.sportingcharts.com/articles/mlb/top-10-heaviest-players-in-the-mlb.aspx

            No OFs on the list. Dunn used to be but he retired at only 10lbs heavier than Judge is now. Pitchers and 1b/DH.

            • Bo Knows

              The reports are surprised because there aren’t a lot of physical specimens like Judge. His weight isn’t something that’s out of control, it appears to be from him naturally growing into his frame on top of top notch weight training. The fact some reports have called him the most athletic big man in the history of the baseball should alone tell us that he’s a freak of nature. That doesn’t include the fact that no report has said that he can’t be in the OF for the forseeable future

              You bring up Adam Dunn but the body types aren’t even remotely close to one

              • dave_8

                “or maybe he’s the biggest capable OF in history. ”

                “He’s going to be a pioneer in the OF, an anomaly — or have to switch positions.”

                I left that open — and that freak of nature, anomaly stuff clouds that foreseeable future. I know he doesn’t have Dunn’s DH physique but Dunn didn’t have that physique either at 23. You can be a chiseled behemoth but how many people that size can still run well enough to cover outfield gaps. My point is that he won’t grow taller but he will grow heavier. He’s not going to get faster or more athletic as that happens — only less. He’s gained 45lbs since college.

                I brought this up with Wily Mo Pena — or even Barry Bonds. His added muscle didn’t enhance his OF play. It hampered it. He could win a bodybuilding contest but couldn’t cover the line any longer. Pena was 260lb at the end but he wasn’t fat. He just filled out from (PED aided or not) his younger days as a 6’3″ CF. When he played his last game there at age 25, he was the heaviest CF ever — and he sucked out there — but he was a brute.

                • Bo Knows

                  I’m not sure how much you know about anatomy but muscle taking away from speed is a myth. Improper training (and bad weight) leads to loss of athleticism, you can put on a ton of muscle but neglect cardio or core training and end up much worse off. That’s why we see college and NFL players at 275+ lbs being able to move like they can. It’s also why Bryce Harper has gotten bigger and bigger every year but still maintains his own athletic ability.

                  Now as any player gets older they will slow down, and that applies to Judge but to assume he’s suddenly going to get to 300lbs+ based nothing but the fact he’s bulked up in an obviously healthy manner. Also based on observations Judge is completely fine in the OF and can stay there for the forseeable future.

                  BTW, what other players have or haven’t has no basis on what Judge does, especially considering the fact that anytime there is 6’7 person with a shit ton of athletic ability, he’s usually playing basketball. Fortunately for us, Judge chose baseball as his passion.

                  • dave_8

                    I was a trainer for 4 yrs for mostly young athletes. I’ve seen Judge run the bases. He’s athletic for his size and shape — but nothing like you see in the NFL. He’s not built that way at all. He doesn’t have a X-style physique. He’s not a 6’7″ Bo Jackson or Herschel Walker or Terrell Owens. And you’re right, pure muscle building performed properly shouldn’t take away from his speed. But even in pro baseball, the attention to that is nowhere near what it is even in college football. In football, what happens with most baseball players wouldn’t be allowed. They don’t simply send someone away with a program and a goal (like for Montero) and have him not follow it and eat his way to 40 extra pounds. You’re speaking of ideal conditioning from Judge based on what he looks like at 23. Some guys are born with great genetics and don’t do much beyond that. Other guys are gym rats who train properly. You’re assuming that he’ll fall into the latter minority. I’ve known many athletes who grew their way out of prior roles. They didn’t blow up like Montero with fat — but they weren’t Ivan Drago working endlessly to become the ultimate RF either. With age, big league meal money and post-game spreads and off-seasons, Judge will marble. And just looking at his old pics from college, I’ll say that his 45lb weight gain since then is not pure muscle. Especially in his lower half. And I’m saying he’s at a much heavier weight than most start with. And with all the advances, baseball strength and conditioning is still light years behind football. And there’s still something in the air from the old days that says that stuff doesn’t apply to baseball as much. I remember ONeill said he spoke to Torre over an off-season and said he gained 20lbs of muscle (as a joke)– and Torre flipped out b/c he thought that was a bad thing — not for his OF play but for his hitting. Compare that to NFL mentality.

          • Bo Knows

            If it’s healthy weight (muscle) it’s perfectly fine, and based on appearance it’s good weight.

  • Wolf

    Hey, all – new user (longtime lurker), just wanted to introduce myself. I’m a Jersey transplant in KY and a fan of the Yanks for my entire 47 years. Posted on other blogs a little a few years back, and I’m ready to jump back in. I think RAB has both the best writing and commenters, so the choice was easy.

    Since we are talking about prospects, I wanted to share a cool story with you. I’m a cancer survivor from this past year, and just as I began treatment last summer, I had to cancel plans to see Charleston play our Sally affiliate here in town. I was excited because I’d have a chance to see Judge in person and maybe meet him. Some friends of mine flagged him down, told him about my battle, and got him to sign this ball for me. They told me he dropped to his knee to apparently say a prayer as he was walking away. Freaking cool. He already was, but needless to say, he is my favorite prospect at this point, and I’ve been pulling hard for his success ever since.

    Looking forward to chatting with you all.

    • RetroRob

      Not all the commenters. : -)

      Great story. Keep fighting the battle, and welcome aboard.

      • Wolf

        Thanks, Rob. Yeah, I’ve gotten a fairly good handle on some of the names to take with a grain of salt. Or ten.

        • Looser Trader FotD™

          Salt cube.

    • Desert Yankee

      Thanks for sharing such a cool story Wolf-Hope you’re doing better. Nice to see such a talented young guy like AJ has his heart in the right place to go along with some serious skills.

      • Wolf

        Doing fantastic, happy to say!

    • Jacob

      Great story. Thank you for sharing. Good luck with everything.

    • Looser Trader FotD™

      Cool story bro! (Not sarcastic)

      Welcome!

    • disqus_8E66WIUyso

      the RAB family welcomes another yankee fan; and I will pray for you; both my parents had cancer and I know its a tough battle; blessings to you;

    • Austinmac

      Good story and welcome. Join us in good health.

    • Jerek Deter

      Congratulations on your victory against cancer!

    • BearNJ

      Welcome aboard. Great story. Be well.

  • RetroRob

    Current prospects and future Yankees out for dinner. (Just ignore Gas Can.)
    https://twitter.com/Its_all_Goody41/status/624278259832913920

    • Looser Trader FotD™

      The topic of conversation was ________.

      Go!

      • YankeesJunkie

        Time to find some “slump busters”!!!!