Figured it was best to load up a new one of these with the playoffs about to start.


  1. Zack says:

    Jim (Boston)
    Twins over Yankees? Hurry and ask them to take your prediction down before your inbox is flooded with “you hate my team” emails!

    Rob Neyer (12:37 PM)
    That was probably a sentimental pick. Hard to see the Twins doing a great deal against the Yankees’ lefty starters.

    In case you needed further proof that “expert picks” mean nothing.

    • bexarama says:

      I’m shocked Neyer chose against the Yankees for “sentimental” reasons. Shocked.

      • JohnnyC says:

        Sentiment was one of the foundational sabermetric categories taught to Neyer by the master, Bill James. It’s a rare quality only observed by ballplayers on teams in the Midwest…such as Kansas City, St. Louis, or Minnesota.

    • Pat D says:

      Nothing but lip service.

      I’d also say that the Rangers are the second or third most unlikely team to win the World Series.

      • Tom Zig says:

        Cliff Lee wants to be on a winner. Well good, the Yankees are the very definition of a winner. They define winning. In fact if you go to the wikipedia page for “Victory” you’ll see the New York Yankees listed under “See Also”

        • Yank the Frank says:

          Bottom of the 1st Cliff Lee loads the bases with one out then strikes out the next two hitters. We gotta get this guy.

  2. Pat D says:

    I agree with this. If Red Sox fans want to keep acting like they’re so superior because they don’t “buy championships” and whatnot, but, my god, for the last decade the Red Sox have done nothing but emulate the Yankees in every imaginable way.

    This is just the icing on the cake.

  3. Dr Van Nostrand says:

    that cash strapped little engine that could franchise makes another big splash

  4. Tom Zig says:

    I think the only thing that could keep Lee in Texas is if they win it all this year.

  5. Poopy Pants says:

    Did anyone here realize that you can’t make a mistake if you’re going up against a guy like Cliff Lee?
    I’ve had TBS on for about 3 minutes and heard that phrase about 12 times.

  6. sleepykarl says:

    If (when) the Yankees win the World Series, Randy Winn will be the longest tenured player without going to the playoffs, but will have a WS ring.

  7. Accent Shallow says:

    Roy Halladay is a strike throwing cyborg.

    I hate him so much.

  8. Accent Shallow says:

    I really enjoyed seeing David Price fail.

    I really look forward to seeing Cliff Lee fail at some unspecified point in the near future.

  9. Tom Zig says:

    Wow all but game 2 (6PM) of the NY/Twins ALDS is in prime time. While none of the the TB/TX games are in prime time at all.

  10. Zanath says:

    Looking at GameDay for the Rays-Rangers game…why is Dan Wheeler all of a sudden starting? Shields hurt or something?

  11. Jerome S. says:

    So when we all said that TB couldn’t hit, we were right weren’t we

  12. Jerome S. says:

    Rob Neyer just tried to say that Liriano’s a better pitcher than Sabathia

  13. Zack says:

    I watched ESPN just long enought today to see Bayless say Wilson is looking like Cliff Lee Jr- I guess because he’s white and throws lefty.

    Wilson had 94 BB this year in 204 IP. Lee has 95 in his last 667.1 IP.

  14. Steve H says:

    White: Check
    Lefty: Check
    Similar BB ratios: No

    Still, 2 out of 3 ain’t bad, you have to agree with the comparison. It’s 67% correct, way more than half.

  15. thurdonpaul says:

    i have tickets for game 4, how the hell do i root for us to lose on saturday ?

    im very confused

  16. poster on another computer who happens to be a deuce bag says:

    I want a transcript of the RAB radio call of the Berkman HR.

  17. Carlosologist says:

    The FiOS TV guide is trying to play Nostradamus with tonight’s game.

    “Minnesota Twins at New York Yankees from Yankee Stadium. The Twins snapped a drought of 11 straight playoff losses and beat the Yankees in the postseason for the first time in nine meets on Friday to stay alive.”

    • Apollo22237 says:

      They must have figured that because we didn’t play yesterday, that means we didn’t beat Minnesota yesterday and that counts as a moral victory.

  18. tom says:

    Oy. Just listening to Francesa (I know; I should know better) talking to Ron Darling. Francesa: that uncalled pitch to Berkman the other night was a “100% strike — not 95; 100″.

    This is how myths are born.

    • Pat D says:

      Well it was a strike according to Brooks, wasn’t it?

      The two pitches before it were not, of course.

      • tom says:

        I guess I’d say a pitch that paints the black is by definition less than 100% — it will always depend on which edge of the plate a particular umpire is favoring (and, as Berkman explained to no avail, it was the outside part that had been favored all game long). A pitch that bulls-eyes the plate is what I’d call 100.

        Naturally, the previous strikes being out of the zone weren’t even part of the discussion — rather odd, considering their whole argument was that Pavano was deeply penalized in being denied the strike because getting it called was his whole “strategy” Two things wrong with that: 1) it takes real entitlement to think you should get outside pitches on one side plus the very edge of the zone on the other; 2) it’s a rather stupid “strategy” that depends on an umpire revising his strike zone in the 7th inning.

    • And I’m sure they didn’t mention the called strikes to Berkman that were well off teh plate.

  19. Jerome S. says:

    Ok ok ok, so I’m a bit nutty for looking at other Club’s blogs and stuff, but get this: Giants fans are freaking suicidal about last night’s lost. Suicidal. Which sucks, because I heard that SF is a suicide prone city. Anyway, they get pissed about a one-run loss in extra innings that merely tied the series (and guaranteed another Lincecum start) in an objectively great baseball game? Dare I say it… but they sound like our trolls!

  20. Pat D says:

    Glad to see that the NoMaas posters still make fun of Ben, Joe and Mike.

    But I see they’ve branced into attacking tsjc now, too.

    “Joe Pawlikowski says:
    October 9, 2010 at 4:16 pm
    This series has been boring as hell. I am hoping for a loss so I can deliver 1500 words (plus copious graphs and screenshots) on why Posada should have swung at a 1-0 pitch in the 3rd inning. The only thing interesting has been tsjc’s relentless search for my hemmorhoids.

    Sensitive RAB guy says:
    October 10, 2010 at 12:31 am
    So tjsc is supposedly a “civil servant.” Does that mean my tax dollars are going towards him posting 342 RAB-posts/day? Just wondering.”

    Considering you can change handles so easily there, as here, I’m gonna have to suspect Rose, right?

    No matter who it is, yeesh.

  21. vin says:

    It sucks to be Brooks Conrad. From Fangraphs:

    “Conrad’s total defensive WPA in this game comes in at a staggering -.635. That number, combined with his -.116 batting total, comes out to a total WPA of -.751. Brooks Conrad cost the Braves 75% of a postseason victory, one which would have put them one victory away from the next round of the playoffs. Conrad’s play tonight, particularly if the Braves don’t come back to win this series, will go down as one of the worst playoff performances of all time. ”

  22. Newbie says:

    Anyone else see the Simpson’s reference to Sabermetrics last night?

  23. Why the hell do I find “Pawn Stars” so interesting?

  24. Steve H says:

    Joba Chamberlain didn’t pitch in the ALDS because he is secretly being stretched out to start in the ALCS. I will not even attribute this to an anonymous source, I will simply state as fact.

    For CBS,

    I’m Charlie Casserly

  25. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Is John Sickel’s prospect book worth it for someone into prospects in general?

  26. Jo3momz says:

    So Damon would “love” to return to NY next year. Thoughts on this?

    • Newbie says:

      In what capacity though?

      Brett Gardner is a better option in leftfield even when not considering how much cheaper he is. Damon can’t even play much outfield anyway.

      And there does not appear to be much room for him as a DH. Jorge will definitely need some time there, and if Jesus comes up, you want him hitting when Jorge is catching for the most part, so unless Damon is willing to come back as a partial platoon player, it won’t happen.

      Also, Damon is not as good as he was in 2009, and his demands will probably be much too high. I’d say the Damon in NY idea is all but dead.

    • Zack says:

      3 years for 30m, get it done or fire Cash!1

  27. Jon says:

    Just found this on some site from Yarkbarker.. found it pretty commical.

    -Chase Utley was really the only position player who did any damage with the bat for the Phillies. He compiled four RBI in the three games, including his Game 3 home run. He also made one of the more heads up plays of the series when he was “hit” by an Aroldis Chapman fastball, which led to a huge inning in Game 2. Now, as for his defense…

  28. Zanath says:

    So who does everyone pick for game 5 tonight? It seems like most people in the MSM are on the Rays bandwagon again. I think it’s gonna be close, but I pick the Rangers to eke this out.

  29. Zanath says:

    Hazel Mae actually listed the Rays winning % when they have 30,000+ people in the stand. I never thought I’d hear that stat.

  30. Zack says:

    So I haven’t seen any articles saying David Price has a low baseball IQ for being slow to cover first, looking at the umpire instead of the runner, and allowing Molina to steal a base….

  31. CBean says:

    There’s no baseball at all tonight. This makes me sad.

  32. Johnny O says:

    From Klaw:
    In Wednesday’s night game, Yankees lefty Manny Banuelos showed a good combination of above-average stuff, command, and an easy delivery. He worked at 90-93 mph, locating the pitch to both sides of the plate, with a straight change at 79-81 with very good arm speed. His curveball has an 11/5 break and good depth, and he commanded the pitch about as well as he did the fastball, throwing it for quality strikes and putting it below the zone as needed. He throws from a 3/4-slot and the ball comes out of his hand very easily and deceptively quick. He’s 5-foot-11 but well built, certainly strong enough to be a starter; the only concern I’d have off this look was that hitters did square up his fastball when he came toward the middle of the zone, as the pitch has some downhill plane but not much lateral movement.

    • Johnny O says:

      This is good stuff. He can locate, has good ‘stuff’, seems like an easy, repeatable motion. That last part obviously is not great but I read this as “batters hit his mistakes” which is true for basically all pitchers. Plus it’s a hitters league and he hasn’t pitched in a few weeks. And he’s not even 20 yet. I think he’s gotta be the #2 overall prospect.

  33. Steve H says:

    AJ Burnett hitting 2 players in a simulated game has made the front page of the Boston Globe website sports section. Wow, talk about envy.

  34. Esteban says:

    Hey question to the RABbis: Do you guys get more money for having more fans on FB?

  35. Steve H says:

    From Olney: They need to win this series in six games because if the series extends to seven games, they will have to beat Lee in Game 7, something they haven’t done in a long time.

    Last time the Yankees have faced Lee in a 7th game: Never
    Last time the Yankees have played in a 7th game: 2004
    Last time the Yankees have won a 7th game: 2003

    Umm, ok Buster.

    • Johnny O says:

      I’m guessing he means they haven’t beaten Lee in a long time, regardless of the situation. Game 7, game 1, August, Spring Training, home, away, etc. I don’t know the exact numbers, but bottom line is cliff lee is good, therefore we don’t want it to go 7 games.

      • Steve H says:

        But even that isn’t true. Lee didn’t get tagged with the loss, but the Yankees beat the Rangers August 11th with Lee starting after getting 4 runs thru 6.1 innings off him.

        • JGS says:

          And they scored 5 runs in 7 innings off him in Game 5 of the WS just last year. That they lost the game anyway is beside the point, unless he thinks Lee was pitching to the score.

    • Salty Buggah says:

      Last time the Yankees have played in a 7th game: 2004

      Typo? You seem to have forgotten the violent earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanic eruptions of 2004 that cancelled the MLB Playoffs that year.

      Seriously though, that’s stupid. Apparently facing Lee and starting AJ means the Yanks should just forfeit and go home. They’re DOOOOMED.

  36. Pat D says:

    Here’s a nice article I found linked from Olney’s blog.

    I find this funny in oh so many ways considering that it dosn’t actually say anything.

    • Thomas says:

      I really can’t believe an actual journalist wrote the word “snookered” in an article (let alone a title).

    • Tom Zig says:

      Is Randy Galloway a male or female?

    • Tom Zig says:

      It’s just a collection of one sentence paragraphs that aren’t really related to each other. It’s like a devout Yankee hater from ESPN message board wrote that. In the words of Sir Charles Barkley That’s turrible.

    • sleepykarl says:

      To defend some Texas journalist, Randy Galloway is among the biggest jackasses I have seen. He has a drive home espn radio show that is soooo dumb. There are some decent writers and radio here, he is so far from it.

  37. Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Blog says:

    So, you know how, if you turn OBP into a percentage you can use it in a phrase like “He gets on base about 33% of the time” if his OBP is .330? How would you construct a similar phrase for wOBA after changing it to a percentage? “He does ________ about 34% of the time” for a wOBA of .340.

    Reading how wOBA is calculated there’s probably too much to it to be able to do something like this, but if there is a way to phrase it i’d like to hear it.

    • Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Blog says:

      If anyone read this and resisted the urge to just post “WTF?” I thank you. I walked away thinking of this and decided this is a dumb question. Just because you can turn a decimal into a percentage doesn’t mean it lends itself to a direct word description, especially advanced stats.

    • Jose the Satirist says:

      It is difficult to convert wOBA into a phrase like you can with OBP by saying “he reaches base 33% of the time”. Could you say “He reaches his maximum run value 33% of the time”? That would be my best guess at trying to say it as a single statement.

    • Jerome S. says:

      He manufactures 33% of a run per PA.


  38. Steve H says:

    On the radio this morning I heard an ad from Fox stating tomorrow night’s NLCS Game 1 is “The most anticipated matchup in playoff history.”

    We’re all looking forward to it, but come on. That’s insane.

  39. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Yay free mini report on ManBan by Law.

    In Wednesday’s night game, Yankees lefty Manny Banuelos showed a good combination of above-average stuff and command and an easy delivery. He worked at 90-93 mph, locating the pitch to both sides of the plate, with a straight change at 79-81 with very good arm speed. His curveball has an 11/5 break and good depth, and he commanded the pitch about as well as he did the fastball, throwing it for quality strikes and putting it below the zone as needed. He throws from a three-quarters slot and the ball comes out of his hand very easily and deceptively quickly. He’s 5-foot-11 but well-built, certainly strong enough to be a starter; the only concern I’d have off this look was that hitters did square up his fastball when he came toward the middle of the zone, as the pitch has some downhill plane but not much lateral movement.

  40. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Oh and a top 10 list by THT.

    1. Jesus Montero / C/OF/1B / If anyone places the Yankees system a full notch above Boston’s, it’s Montero. He can make it defensively as an outfielder, which is where I’m guessing he will end up, considering the amount of young catching talent in the organization and Mark Teixeira’s firm grasp on first base.
    2. Manuel Banuelos / SP / Banuelos had a tremendous second half of the season, successfully taking his slick three-pitch mix all the way to Double-A Trenton.
    3. Dellin Betances / SP/RP / I question whether Betances’ arm will hold up as a starter, but he did produce a great bounce back year, as he didn’t make my top-10 last year. He still has so much to prove.
    4. Gary Sanchez / C / It’s hard to debut any better than Sanchez did in 2010 at age 17. He even got a taste of the New York-Penn League. A big time bat might be in the works.
    5. Andrew Brackman / SP/RP / Unranked on this list last year, Brackman appears to be fully back from Tommy John surgery, with his mechanics cleaned up, his fastball back to form, and his curveball not far behind.
    6. Austin Romine / C / Romine had another solid season, this time proving himself at Double-A Trenton. His upside is certainly limited, but Romine could be an average big league regular at catcher in the next couple of years.
    7. Cito Culver / SS / Culver has the ability to play a respectable shortstop. His offensive game doesn’t have the kind of upside I like in a first round high schooler, but he has above average bat speed and contact skills for his age.
    8. Brandon Laird / OF/3B / While there isn’t much upside, Laird has some intriguing natural pop in his bat that could become his big league calling card. Improved plate discipline would do him wonders.
    9. Adam Warren / SP / Warren is proof that a well-commanded fastball can take a pitcher far. Whether the Yankees trust him enough to join their rotation one day will be dependent on the development of his change-up and slider.
    10. Slade Heathcott / OF / I have a soft spot for Jairo Heredia, and almost put him here, but his injury history kept him away. Ivan Nova had a breakout campaign and deserves some love. But I decided on Heathcott. He certainly did not deliver in 2010, but I like his tools and time is on his side.

  41. Jerome S. says:

    better rotation: 95 Braves or 2010 Phillies?

    I still say Braves.

    Some Phillies fan tried to tell me otherwise today on the bus. Thoughts?

    • bexarama says:

      Braves – three HOFers in their prime. Halladay, Hamels, Oswalt, all are terrific, but only Halladay is at a Maddux/Smoltz/Glavine level so far, even if Hamels is really really good at a still relatively young age

      • Pat D says:

        Bill James said that the, I think it was, ’97 Braves had the best rotation possibly in the previous 60 years.

        This was in an article where he highlighted how teams that had decade best starting pitching didn’t win championships.

        And, yea, I’d take the ’95 Braves.

  42. bexarama says:

    I found this from after the 2007 WS

    Gene Wojciechowski should not be allowed to talk about baseball

  43. Tom Zig says:


  44. Tom Zig says:

    I know someone on here last year got this made into a poster:;1024.jpg

    I don’t remember the website that does it. Can anyone help me out?

  45. Steve H says:

    So after the comeback, CC in game 4 or not? (I guess I should be asking Buster Olney since he is so aware of the inner workings of the Yankees thoughts).

  46. Zack says:

    “Gammons thinks one advantage Boston has is that they’re looking at Crawford as middle-of-the-order bat rather than as a leadoff man, and Crawford “doesn’t want to be the guy trying to steal 70 bases.”

    I don’t want to do the whole bash-Gammons thing, but does anyone see him as a 3-4-5 hitter? And if he stops running then he has a 15m salary for .800 OPS and great defense?

  47. Steve H says:

    Pete Abe just said what Gardner did last night is going to make the Yankees keep him around a long time.

    So not the whole awesome season he just had, but one infield hit? Ok Pete.

    • Zack says:

      So if he was out by a half step they wouldn’t keep him around a long time?

    • poster on another computer who happens to be a deuce bag says:

      This is a bit unfair. Obviously Pete is implying that the reason they’re keeping Gardner is that he’s the type of player with the speed to beat out hits like that and it’s very useful, not because of one infiled single in one game.

      I don’t lke Pete Abe either but let’s be fair here.

  48. pat says:

    Freddy Sez passed away.

  49. I think I wanted to kill 95% of the kids I had today. My fucking word were they bastards today.

  50. Memo to “The Office”:

    Please remember that you’re a comedy show and make me laugh more heartily than one or two little chuckles per episode. I keep giving you chance after chance, but you’re really blowing it.

  51. Steve H says:

    The lineup does not have the normal holes in it, like a Mike Cameron or a J.D. Drew.

    You don’t fear A-Rod in the postseason even if he has a great regular season.

    -Michael Holley

  52. Steve H says:

    NEW YORK – John Smoltz is aware of the numbers, particularly the 4.17 ERA that ranked only 17th in the majors and sixth in the American League.

    But if he had to choose one rotation to win a playoff series, Smoltz still would pick the Red Sox [team stats].

    “If they could be magically in the playoffs, they would have the best rotation in baseball,” the former All-Star pitcher turned TBS broadcaster said last night at Yankee Stadium before calling Game 3 of the AL Championship Series. “That’s the kind of staff they have. You look around at the question marks about Game 4 starters. There wouldn’t be any question marks with the Red Sox.”


  53. Zack says:

    Cliff Lee didn’t just beat the New York Yankees, he humiliated them.

    This crap is getting old already. Cliff Lee is a top 5 pitcher in baseball, yet shutting out the Yankeees humiliates them? Didn’t he shut out the Rays twice? The Rays that what 90% of ESPN ‘experts’ had as their WS winners in the beginning of the posteason.

    • first time lawng time says:

      Yeah but, I’m pretty sure the Rays mustered more than 3 baserunners at one point and even had a rally going in game 1…

  54. Mike Axisa says:

    How in the world did Ted Lilly get three years and $33M? Destroys the market for SP now.

  55. CBean says:

    Did tex take the game thread down with him?

  56. Kevin G. says:

    If Darvish gets posted this offseason, is it possible for the Yankees to get him AND Lee? I doubt it, but it would be nice. (Remember, not many people said it was possible for the Yankees to sign CC, AJ, AND Tex before the 2009 season.)

    Yeah, I know. I’m greedy.

  57. Jo3momz says:

    So Melky got released by the Braves. Javy deal looking just a bit better.

    • Accent Shallow says:

      But her son, also a known graffiti vandal, has managed to finish writing a 700-page novel “about a ninja or something” that he’s self-publishing next month, she said.

      What an incredible sentence.

    • Thomas says:

      You just can’t predict baseball.

      That’s up there with the Britney Spears stalker, who thought she was sending him messages with her varying hairstyles (though I don’t think he was a Bin Laden fan).

  58. Zack says:

    yankees clubhouse remains impossible to work, unless you want exclusive with moeller, golson or pena. #nicescrubs

    Um, I think it’s called – don’t bite the hand that feeds you?. Why would any Yankee willing talk to MSM members when all they do is trash you?

  59. Jerome S says:

    I would say that Cano’s been Mr.October this year.
    But apparently Cody Ross begs to differ.

  60. Tom Zig says:

    Which Barry Bonds was better?

    2001, 2002, or 2004

    • Steve H says:

      I’d go 2001. As valuable as walks are (in 2002 and 2004) when you are hitting HR’s once ever 6.5 AB’s and getting an extra 100 AB’s that adds up. He wasn’t really given that opportunity in 2002 and 2004, so even if it was somewhat out of his hands, I’d say he was better in 2001.

      • Thomas says:

        In 2001, Bonds BABIP was only .266, while it was .330 in 2002. His career rate is .285.

        In 2002, he may have been lucky (though I am sure he hit a ton of liners and may have an xBABIP of around .330). However, I am pretty much sure that he was unlucky in 2001, which is just insane to think about.

        • JGS says:

          Shrug. BABIP doesn’t include home runes–he had a .266 BABIP but a .328 batting average. Fangraphs’ HR/FB data only goes back to 2002, but considering that from 2002-2005 he was at 27.1%, 29.6%, 29%, and 26.3%, he was almost certainly above 30% in 2001. I would tend to thing that would counteract whatever bad luck BABIP was giving him.

  61. Yank the Frank says:

    What do you think of Dave Eiland as a pitching coach?

    • Zack says:

      I like him better than Dave Island.

      To be honest, what do you judge him by?

      He hasn’t screwed up CC/Andy, not going to blame him for AJ, and I believe they said he helped Wood
      He’s had 2 young starters to work with, one had a mediocre first year as a starter, one had a good one. You want to see how he works with Phil and his curve/overall approach, and see if he can help Joba if he’s still here next year. Even after that, that’s a 2 pitcher sample size.

      So I’d go with acceptable.

      • Accent Shallow says:

        Well, he was hired mostly because of his prior relationship with Hughes/Joba/Kennedy in the minors.

        Hughes just had a successful year as a starter, but his non-fastball pitches took a step backward. Kennedy was traded away (and concluded a successful year of his own), and Joba is an afterthought at this point.

        If he’s not back in 2011, I’m not shedding any tears, but I’m not going to sit here and advocate he definitely not be back.

        • Zack says:

          Well teams usually accept that 1 of 3 prospects work out no? He’s obviously not Dave Duncan, but he’s also not junk.

          And while IPK had a good year this year- that’s like saying you did good in math this year and giving no credit to last year’s math teacher.

    • Jerome S says:


  62. Zack says:

    The media is starting to make me hate Michael Young.

    Yes he moved positions, but everyone fails to mention that Mr. Team-first bitched and moaned about during the offseason last year. And when you have cement feet and your employer owes you 60m, you do what they tell you to do.

  63. Jose the Satirist says:

    Why is everyone rooting for an NL team to win the World Series? I can’t bring myself to root for the Giants. Does that old rivalry no longer mean anything to Yankee fans?

    • Zack says:

      If it hasn’t happened in 40 years it’s tough to have most Yankee fans see it as a rivalry, sorry.

    • CBean says:

      I’m not going to root for the Rangers after they beat us. Right now, I’m even rooting for the Phillies over them, but I actually like the Giants.

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      I’m rooting for a seven-game series. Which team wins is immaterial to me.

    • Accent Shallow says:

      Well, the Yankees not putting up much of a fight in the ALCS did create a fair amount of bad feeling towards the Rangers.

      I can’t wait to see Cliff Lee fail.

    • Thomas says:

      I am rooting for the Giants, because I hate the claw and antler crap and I feel like if the Rangers win there is a better chance that Lee will resign with them.

      I would have rooted for the Rangers over the Phillies though.

    • Yank the Frank says:

      A Giant victory may mean we have a better chance of getting Lee, it may not of course. A Ranger victory may mean the Rangers will go even harder to keep Lee, but it may not of course…

  64. Zack says:

    There are other issues, of course, such as whether Nick Swisher should be viewed as a long-term right fielder, or if he should be watched closely in 2011, his walk year, to determine if — after two excellent regular seasons — two straight years of postseason failure were an anomaly or a sign that he is simply not cut out for October.

    Since the Swisher-4th-OF bandwagon crashed, I guess we should try this bandwagon instead.

    • Pat D says:

      I would not be surprised if Swisher was traded.

      • Zack says:

        I would.

        Only positions Yankees are looking to improve are OF, C and SP.
        Catchers are never available.(Guys like Iannetta/Snyder/etc but they aren’t getting Swish in return)
        Trading Swisher for another OF doesn’t make sense for either team.
        If a team is trading a SP they want cost controlled prospects in return.
        And trading him for prospects to replace him with Crawford or Werth doesn’t make sense either.

        • Poopy Pants says:

          Trading Swisher to make room for Crawford makes sense to me in the long-term.
          Kabak wrote earlier this season the Yanks could already afford both Lee and Crawford for 2011.
          Getting rid of Swish’s salary would make it easier.

          They could:
          Replace Swish with Crawford,
          Replace NJ, Thames, Berkman with Montero (maybe keep Thames on the bench??)
          Replace Javy with Cliff Lee

  65. Pak says:

    Fantasy Basketball questions:
    My roster is:
    PG: Monta Ellis
    SG: Brandon Roy
    G: Devin Harris
    SF: Kevin Durant
    PF: Rudy Gay
    F: Kevin Garnett
    C: Brook Lopez
    C: No one because Boozer and Harrington are injured
    Utility: Rodney Stuckey
    Utility: Don’t know who to start

    Bench: Evan Turner, Luol Deng, Richard Jefferson, Ron Artest
    Injured: Boozer, Al Harrington

    How’s my team? Who should i pick up for center, who should i start at the utility spots?


    • Thomas says:

      Team look solid, should certainly be good with scoring. Assists, rebounds, and both percentages should be solid, too (not sure about steals and blocks). You’ll probably lose TO every week, but that happens to most good teams.

      I’d start Deng at the other Util spot, unless you really want steal then go with Artest. If you are in H2H, it won’t really matter just swap players in and out when they have off days.

      As for center, I have heard a lot of hype for Mozgov (not sure if he is legit). Who’s available at center in your league?

    • Jerome S says:

      Kevin Durant’s gonna have a monster season, glad you have him.

      Glad I could contribute.

  66. Andrew says:

    So it sounds like every piece of Andy Pettitte’s lower body exploded during his ALDS start based on the tweets coming out of Girardi’s press conference. And yet he still managed to pitch 7 great innings against the Rangers, go figure.

  67. Zack says:

    Francesa: Do you give a guy like Werth a premium for performing in the postseason?
    Cashman: *laughs under his breath* No. I know his agents will though.

    Smart man.

  68. Brad Toughy says:

    Doing my first ever Fantasy NBA draft tonight—any draft strategy suggestions?

    I don’t particularly follow basketball and haven’t ever done a NBA fantasy team.

    • Thomas says:

      If possible, try and draft the player that everyone hates for no reason despite him performing well a round later than he should last. For example, people seem to refuse to draft JD Drew or Brad Hawpe (though Hawpe sucked this year) in baseball for whatever reason and went for sexier names with slightly higher ceilings but much lower realistic levels of play.

      A couple good examples might be Troy Murphy, Okafor, and Millsap.

    • Zack says:

      Don’t go strictly by last year numbers after the elite guys- guys go from starters to back-ups much quicker than NFL/MLB.

      And all PFs aren’t created equally. Some are ‘stretch’ that give you 3s but lack rebounds, while some are down low with more rebounds but lower FT%, etc. So you have to look at how your draft is going and how you can balance that.

  69. jsbrendog (returns) says:

    OH NOEZES!!!!!! panic everyone. pull a Bo

  70. PhillyMatt says:

    Anyone have details about his kid, read he may be 16?


    Basically Lee’s wife didn’t like the fans in Yankees stadium. Anyone putting stock into that? I feel you can find that in any stadium.

  72. Guest says:

    On the Cliff Lee wife getting harrased thing: Not helpful. Definitely not helpful.

    BUT, in the end, the dollars will be the dollars. If we give him enough, he will likely come.

    I’ll say this, his agent would have to an absolute idiot to not use this story as leverage to get the Yankees to pony up more dollars. Hopefully, the Yanks will, he dons the pinstripes, and Mrs. Lee will be treated like royalty around NYC for years to come.

  73. Kevin G. says:

    Wow, those guys from the Westboro church may be coming to my school to protest a play.


    (Sorry if this post breaks the Rose rule. I think its fine, however.)

  74. CBean says:

    The Yankees Official Scorer died in a house fire.

    • first time lawng time says:

      Wow…everyone’s dying in Yankeeland this year.

      2009: Season of pride, tradition, and glory.

      2010: Season of iconic Yankee deaths?

  75. Does anyone know which Yankee farmhands are becoming MiLFAs this year? I’m pretty sure Igawa is one of them, but that’s all I know.

  76. Carlosologist says:

    Something cool I noticed: Every time one of the Lakers makes a 3-pointer, they play the chime that the Yankees have whenever a Yankee hits a homer.

  77. larryf says:

    So do we make some sort of BIG announcement during the World Series to steal the spotlight and put it rightfully back in the Bronx where it belongs?

  78. Jerome S says:

    I have favorited Bryce Harper’s facebook profile. Not his page, his actual profile.


  79. Mike HC says:

    I just heard that Bengie Molina gets a ring no matter what because he played for the Giants earlier in the year and the Rangers now obviously.

    Pretty cool.

  80. Brad Toughy says:

    For the fantasy football heads out there:

    I’ve got Arian Foster, Steven Jackson and Jahvid Best for two RB spots and am a little thin at receiver.

    I’m comfortable keeping any combination of backs for the rest of the season. A team in my league has said he’s looking for RB help and will move Andre Johnson (HOU) if the deal is right. Can any of my backs get Johnson in a straigh 1-for-1?

    • Mike HC says:

      Foster and Jackson should only be done straight up. I would wait for another good game before trading Best. He will have one.

  81. Accent Shallow says:

    Cliff Lee got rocked. I am filled with schadenfreude.

    True aces battle through when they don’t have their best stuff, not give up 7 runs in 4 2/3.

    /kidding about the “true aces” bit, but I am filled with schadenfreude. Screw that guy.

  82. Zack says:

    So Ron Washington is down 0-2 with the help of dumb managerial moves- and we get a cupcake piece about him and his fungo bat?

  83. Esteban says:

    Happy Birthday Mike

  84. Poopy Pants says:

    Anyone else have Time Warner Cable in Queens? I can’t find MLB Network in HD ever since they put Ovation HD in that spot. Is it offered on TWC anymore?

  85. poster on another computer who happens to be a deuce bag says:

    So guys, I’ve watchd only ONE basketball game ever and that was the Duke-Butler March Madness championship (great game, BTW), but I do have some basketball loyalties due to family, specifically to Duke and to the Nets.

    With baseball season over and with me realizing I’ll go nuts with no team to root for (G-men only play once a week…not enough) I’m thinking of trying out basketball. As I said, I have a sort of quasi-royalty to the Nets because it runs in my family. But looking at thm right now I have to say that they’re boring aas shit and moving to Brooklyn won’t help that too much with another better NY team already in place.

    So, in short, I’m thinking of becoming a Knicks fan because they have Amare (a comma goes somehwere in that name but IDK where) and a very good shot at gettng Carmelo before the year is out and they MIGHT, just might, slip in as the eighth seed, making them more exciting than the Nets will be for a good long while.

    As new basketball/Knicks fan, what should I know about the sport and team that I don’t already?

    Thanks guys.

    • poster on another computer who happens to be a deuce bag says:

      I just looked at the scores for the first two games. It seems encouraging; they played two good teams pretty close.

    • Poopy Pants says:

      If you’re that bored there are other things you could do with your time: learn a language or musical instrument or volunteer (and help other people), rather than forcing yourself to root for millionaires that don’t care about you.

    • first time lawng time says:

      As a Knicks fan, be prepared for a season of disappointment. Although their games so far have been close so that’s encouraging.

      And don’t criticize Gallinari. He’s really good, he just sucks right now cause he injured his wrist during pre season. Once he gets into a groove their offense will improve.

      And I reccomend going to a game at the Garden if you haven’t done so already. They’re really fun.

      Welcome to Knicks Basketball!

  86. Congrats to Brett Gardner for winning a Fielding Bible award!

  87. Thomas says:

    Sweet CougarLife now has commercials. (safe)

    • Thomas says:

      At about 15s in when it goes “At,” it sounds sort of like “You take your car to work/I’ll take my board/and when your out of gas/I’m still afloat” portion of Surf Wax America by Weezer, IMO.

  88. Jerome S says:

    They got a poll of the greatest Yankees. My selections:
    1.Babe Ruth
    2.Mickey Mantle
    3.Lou Gehrig
    4.Yogi Berra
    5.Mariano Rivera
    6.Joe DiMaggio
    7.Bill Dickey
    8.Derek Jeter
    9.Whitey Ford
    10.Alex Rodriguez
    11.Thurman Munson
    12.Andy Pettitte
    13.Jorge Posada
    14.Roger Maris
    15.Don Mattingly
    16.Ron Guidry
    17.Reggie Jackson
    18.Bernie Williams
    19.Phil Rizzuto
    20.Elston Howard

  89. Tom Zig says:

    What kind of package would it take to land Colby Rasmus?

    What about Kemp?

    Of the two, I see Kemp as being the most likely to be traded. Ned Colletti ripped him in public. He fits the good young outfielder who had a down year and possibly needs a change of scenery. Couple that with the McCourts trying to cut payroll. I think we may have a fit here.

    Rasmus is probably the better player but I don’t think Mozeliak will let TLR’s grudge against Rasmus cloud their judgment. I think Rasmus will cost too much.

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      I’d imagine Hughes+ for Rasmus. However, with the Yankees’ dearth of starting pitching, dealing Hughes obviously isn’t a palatable option.

      Kemp’s value is harder to assess because he was close to worthless this past season (0.4 fWAR).

    • Thomas says:

      Gardner and Joba or a killer B for Kemp? Does that sound fair and appealing? I’d do it as a Yankee and I could see the Dodgers doing it since they are likely to dump Kemp (though I think they can get better offers).

      • Brad Toughy says:

        I’d think if the Yankees were to trade Joba or Gardner in a deal it will be for a starting pitcher. I think that the Yankees are comfortable going forward with an outfield of Gardner-Granderson-Swisher.

        Using Gardner and Joba in a deal for a SP if the Yankees are interested in Carl Crawford might make sense.

  90. larryf says:

    Rookie catcher comes up in May and leads team to world series championship. 2 years in a row!


  91. Jerome S says:

    Girardi’s binder is stoopid. I heard Terry Francona has memorized everyones stats about everything, because he’s a fucking genius and doesn’t need a moronic binder.

  92. theyankeewarrior says:

    Hal says Cash has his budget.

    And that they want Mo & Jeter back.

    And that they needs to hit the FA market.

    And that they will hit the trade market.

    LOL. Lets go baby.

  93. Steve H says:

    Has Charley Casserly reported yet that the Vikings cut Moss because he insulted Favre’s gray hair?

    • Thomas says:

      When I first heard that Moss had been cut from the Pats, I joked to my friends, ” He probably made fun of Brady’s hair.” Then, within 10 seconds, Casserly’s report came on saying that was the reason he was cut.

  94. Accent Shallow says:

    Cliff Lee, post-season deity, is dead. 6.94 WS ERA. I am so filled with schadenfreude I have to take a dump.

    God, that was satisfying.

  95. Tony Micelli says:

    After yesterday’s elections I saw this commercial and it’s pretty scary.

    Of course the gov’t soon banned the commercial from airing for some reason.

    • Thomas says:

      The government didn’t ban it. According to the video’s description, major TV networks, including ABC, A&E, and the History channel have refused to air it, which is entirely within their rights. Additionally, three networks listed in the description are all owned by Disney, so if those are the only stations refusing to play the ad, then in fact it is only one company not playing the advertisement.

  96. Avi says:

    Baseball America’s top 10 Yankee prospects (released today):
    1. Jesus Montero
    2. Gary Sanchez
    3. Dellin Betances
    4. Manny Banuelos
    5. Andrew Brackman
    6. Austin Romine
    7. Hector Noesi
    8. Eduardo Nunez
    9. Slade Heathcott
    10. Brandon Laird

    • YankeesJunkie says:

      Surprised that Sanchez is so high and that Nunez is on the list at all, he is pretty terrible. If the Yanks could somehow unload Laird and Nunez as valuable prospects to another team that would be great because they don’t have much future with the Yankees. I look for a guy like Brett Marshall to make a big jump next year at A-Ball as he gets further away from TJ surgery.

      • Avi says:

        They’re looking at overall “ceiling” with Sanchez which they say is higher than Montero’s.
        I’m surprised that people don’t realize how good Nunez is. Where so used to having Jeter at SS that we forget what kinda offensive numbers shortstops usually put up.
        Nunez is a good defender with a CANNON for an arm. If he got 500 AB’s I’d be surprised if he didn’t steal 40 bags.
        So if he hit .280 with 40 steals he’d be an above average ML SS.
        I like Marshall too.

        • JohnnyC says:

          “So if he hit .280 with 40 steals he’d be an above average ML SS.”

          He’d be Elvis Andrus!

        • CountryClub says:

          .280 is probably asking a bit too much from him. They should trade him while his value is apparently high.

          Laird is a different story. If he can play all 4 corners and he can hit with power, he has some real value for the Yanks.

    • CountryClub says:

      It’s good to see 3 non pitchers/catchers on there. They could have easily had Murphy and Phelps in the top 10.

      • Avi says:

        Adam Warren too. The Yankees have about seventeen players in their system that are likely to have Major league careers ahead of them.
        Their #12-15 (phelps, warren, Marshall) prospects are better than most teams 6th best guy.

  97. JohnnyC says:

    The details of the Mets’ new ticket plan for 2011 are hilarious. For one of the packages, you can get a one on one fielding lesson from your favorite Mets player. For another package, you can have a bullpen session with friendly supervision from the Mets coaching staff.

  98. RobC says:

    the American Veterans Center is having ther annual conference in DC this Thurs-Sat.
    On Fri night there is a presentation “Basbeall Heroes of WWII” to include Yogi Berra, Bob Feller, Jerry Coleman, Lou Brissie, and John Miles
    info at

  99. Church of the Perpetually Outraged says:

    Ok fess up, which one of you sent this in today:

    Mike (NYC)
    The Yankees need a young centerfielder. Would the Angels trade Mike Trout for Austin Romine and Pat Venditte

    Klaw (1:42 PM)
    Best. Question. Ever.

  100. Zack says:

    Heyman says Takahashi wants 3 years at 4-5m. Maybe that will “excite” the fanbase enough.

  101. Tampa Yankee says:

    So the Blue Jays trade for Olivo for just cash then decline his option. If he turns down arb, the Jays could have up to 8 of the first 50 picks in next year’s draft. They could easily load up quickly with the talent in that draft.

    (h/t MLBTR

  102. Tom Zig says:

    There are birds in my air conditioner.

  103. missing baseball says:

    My love of the Knicks was nearly on par with my love of the Yanks about 10 years ago, but I quit them completely when Van Gundy left and they brought in Marbury, Iseah, etc. I’m trying to jump back in and was wondering if anyone could recommend a good Kincks blog?

  104. Pat D says:

    Oh, and since this is an open thread, I’ll say this. If anyone wants to go see Due Date, you can skip it. Now if you like Todd Phillips’ other movies, I’m sure you’ll like this, but it’s uneven at best. A few funny parts, Robert Downey Jr. was good, but it’s way too reliant on extremely unrealistic situations. And Zach Galifianakis is extremely annoying. His character is like Homestar Runner in that he’s completely oblivious to how off-putting he is, but not in a harmless way like Homestar Runner. I also don’t understand why anyone thinks he’s all that funny or talented. I think I could probably play his part in this movie.

    Second, let me use this forum to remind everyone of proper movie etiquette. First of all, SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don’t go to a movie to hear you and your shit, I’m there to hear the movie. So couple of middle aged women sitting 1 row behind and 7 seats to the left of me: if I can hear what you’re saying clearer than what the actors are saying, YOU’RE TOO FUCKING LOUD!!!!! Second, just because the seat right in front of you is unoccupied, that doesn’t mean you put your leg through the space and use the arm rest as a leg rest. And you shut the fuck up too, because you were a fucking idiot.

    OK, rant over. So next time a friend of mine wants to go see a movie, and it’s the opening weekend of said movie, I’m gonna say, “No, not this week. Let’s go see something that opened two weeks ago.” When I saw The Social Network yesterday, I didn’t have to put up with any obnoxious assholes just because the theater was less crowded and so I could sit in a seat relatively far away from anyone else.

    Yes, I hate people.

    • Jerome S says:

      let it all out, man. let it all out.

    • Carlosologist says:

      Tell us how you really feel, Pat.

    • This is why my girlfriend hates to go to the movies. The etiquette in movie theaters is horrendously bad these days.

      • Pat D says:

        It must also be the reason I don’t go as often anymore. I’ve been usign the excuse of not wanting to go alone, but I’ve done that plenty of times.

        I do have a new rule for myself going forward. Do not go see any movie on its opening weekend, unless it’s the first show of the day. This rule does not apply to family movies, which shall always be restricted on opening weekend.

        Of course, I waited until the 3rd week that Toy Story 3 was out before I saw it, and the theater was still packed. So I guess I still won’t see any of the Harry Potter movies in the theater.

  105. Kevin G. says:

    * Off-Topic Thread #7 (Austin 25, 2010 – October 6, 2010


  106. Tom Zig says:

    “People will suffer” – lovely headline on about the Cowboys. They make it sound like Jerry Jones is going to go on a killing spree. That picture of Wade Phillips doesn’t help either.

  107. Tom Zig says:

    Paul DePodesta, JP Ricciardi, Sam Alderson.

    Nice work, Mets.

  108. And Bud Selig did something stupid. Again.

  109. Dax J. says:

    Can you guys give me your opinion on Willy Aybar? I think he could be a good option off the bench.

    • Dax J. says:

      Not that the bench is priority #1 right now, I’m just saying he could be a good addition once we clear out the Cliff Lee drama.

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      If Thames signs elsewhere, maybe. Aybar has had good success against lefties in the past (.381 wOBA in 2009, .347 in ’08, .368 in ’06), so he might be a suitable replacement for Thames. However, Aybar was horrid last season, even against lefties, and has consistently been an offensive black hole vs. RHPs.

  110. Jerome S says:

    What specific combinations of mushrooms do I have to do in order to understand UZR and Robbie’s is negative?

    • Esteban says:

      Just know that 0 is average, which might be quite good depending on the quality of the other fielders. A slightly negative UZR doesn’t mean a fielder is “bad”

      • YankeesJunkie says:

        Yeah, but just from looks Robbie seems to have great range and makes a lot of plays from second base. I have had a hard time really getting into defensive metrics because I don’t think they have found one that really nails it on the head.

  111. All Star Carl says:

    Jorge to have the same Knee Surgery as CC.

  112. Esteban says:

    Ha! A friend of mine said he would rather have a statue as a fielder that never made mistakes over a fielder with great range but made ~20 errors.

  113. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Executives think Yanks offer arb to Jeter? I hope so.

  114. Not Tank the Frank says:

    My goodness, the Yankee hate on ESPN has reached epic proportions of late. From losing in the ALCS, the Gold Gloves, Jeter’s contract, to Cliff Lee, it’s just been unbearable over there. I haven’t seen it this bad since 2008 when they missed the playoffs. Or perhaps 2007 when the Red Sox won the World Series. They were far more concerned over trashing the Yankees over at ESPN than they were at praising the Red Sox; though they’re still pretty good at that too.

    • bexarama says:

      post-2007 WS was the worst, as you said every article was more about trashing the Yankees than praising the Red Sox. And it’s funny, because I don’t really think of them so much as hating the Yankees, they just adore the Red Sox… but it was kind of the opposite after that series.

  115. first time lawng time says:

    Joe Morgan out of ESPN next year. And possibly Miller, too.

  116. Ghost of Scott Brosius says:

    Dave Cameron continues to insist that Montero isn’t viable AT ALL at catcher and that his only future with the Yankees is as a trade chip. Am I the only one who thinks he’s just bitter because his Mariners decided to take Smoak instead? I mean, we know there are bad reports on Montero’s catching, but he just dismisses him as completely hopeless.

    • Jerome S says:

      I think he’s miserable because he lives in Seattle.
      You would be too.

    • bexarama says:

      Meh, he was tearing Montero apart before the trade, he just doesn’t like him as a prospect. He didn’t like Cano either. I’m not trying to say Cameron’s an idiot or anything, I’m sure he’s generally pretty good at evaluating prospects, but we all have our biases and we’re all not always right.

      (Nevar forget

      • Steve H says:



      • Ghost of Scott Brosius says:

        Wow….that was epically bad. I definitely think there is a propensity to knock Yankee prospects…if Montero was in the Royals or Rangers system, he’d be raved about endlessly. To be fair, Cano was never much of a prospect, he’s a clear late bloomer. But Montero’s numbers are off the charts- and when you consider age and league, they’re incredible. It seems that everyone harps on his flaws to distract from the fact that the Yankees might have a cheap homegrown superstar on their hands. It’s almost like an elaborate plot to persuade us that he’s not good so Cash will trade him.

  117. Zack says:

    One thing working in Detroit’s favor is that they have fellow Venezuelans Miguel Cabrera and Armando Galarraga on their roster. Of course, none of this will matter if they don’t make the right offer [to Victor Martinez].;id=3393

    So it works in their favor, unless it doesn’t.

    • bexarama says:

      Matsui is totally going to the Mariners to be with Ichiro!!!

      • CBean says:

        It reminds me of some comments during the last game at Fenway. They were talking about how the Red Sox thought that having both Dice-K and Okajima on the same team would be great because they would both be friends because clearly all Japanese people are friends with each other. Imagine their surprise when it turned out that they didn’t actually like each other very much.

        Oh Red Sox. Your race fail is epic.

        • bexarama says:

          Yep, I remember that. And during the last game of the 2009 WS Buck and McCarver had a pretty long discussion about how Matsui would obviously either resign with the Yankees or go to the Mariners just to be with Ichiro. Only, it was like, less racially enlightened than that. o_O I mean… I get that maybe you can feel more comfortable around people from your country, but by all reports Matsui and Ichiro don’t get along, like, at all. Yeah.

  118. Zack says:

    One of the things that annoys me about twitter is when guys write their entires articles on it. Do I need 15 tweets from Adam Ruben about the Beltran conference call?

    • Steve H says:

      Buster Olney is the king of this (I don’t follow Rubin). Someone needs to explain the whole point of twitter to these guys. Buster doesn’t even shorten his links so the link usually uses up most of the 140 characters.

  119. Dick Whitman says:

    Now that Feinsand is the new Chairman of the NY Chapter of the BBWAA, does anyone know his stance on Blyleven? I’d ask him, but he gets pissy quickly if you don’t agree with him.

  120. JGS says:

    “Jeff [Francoeur] is a winning-type baseball player who brings a lot of energy.”

    -Dayton Moore

    Man, I can’t wait for the epic Posnanski post that will follow the in-light-of-that-quote-inevitable Francoeur signing from KC.

    • Zack says:

      Comments like this will always have me questioning if the Royals are ever going to be good again with Moore as their GM.

      I know he put together a great farm system, but would anyone be shocked if he (a) traded players away for .300 OBP players or guys with nice ERAs but 5 K/9 numbers or (b) not let them get ML ABs to develop like Gordon and Ki’lah’a’ha’a’h

      • Steve H says:

        Yankees should look to trade them Nunez. He puts up a .310 OBP with the best of them.

        • Thomas says:

          I was thinking that, but the Royals already have Betancourt who is worse in OBP and defense while costing more money, so it probably won’t happen.

          Maybe they’ll go for Juan Miranda another no defense and clearly flawed hitting firstbaseman.

  121. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Yankees prepared to give more years than other teams for Lee…

    I’d rather give him more money but meh…And Yanks are unlikely to get a FA catcher because they want the young catchers to have a chance.

    Since Cervelli proved that he’s nothing more than a back up so this bodes well with Lee and Montero.

    • Accent Shallow says:

      Did any prospect follower expect to see Cervelli as a quality MLB starter? I don’t think he ever will be, but he’s young.

      I think he can be a top backup, with time.

  122. bexarama says:

    2.44 ERA, .175/.215/.281/.496 against, 0.792 WHIP, 11.3 K/9, 7.50 K/BB

    Those are Pedro’s numbers in 2000.


    :: head explodes ::

    (it was only 6 games but O_______O)

  123. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Yankees interested in Jorge De La Rosa. Great strikeout rate but horrendous walk rate. I’d take a flier on him but not as a backup plan to Lee or Pettitte.

    • Thomas says:

      I’d take him on a flier, but he’ll probably find a much better (likely multi-year) deal somewhere. For example, Ben Sheets got $10M last season from the A’s and he is just as injury prone and didn’t pitch the season before. No way the Yankees should give De La Rosa nearly that much.

  124. Zack says:

    Shocked the NFL lasted a whole 20 days without an arrest.

  125. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Lol Yankees finishing in 3rd place. It’s not really predictions but a Yankee hating article. Descriptions are saying how much the Yankees suck.

    Just a quick laugh for this Firday.

  126. Tom Zig says:

    Re: Mark Teixeira:

    “I think I’d probably be playing within a week or two, I’m not sure exactly, we’re probably at three and a half weeks now, I think they said six to eight weeks at first, I’d probably be back sooner.”

  127. Jerome S says:

    We need food. Subway or pizza? Quick, damnit!

  128. MyNameIsNed says:

    So I made the mistake of stumbling over to Pinstripe Alley this morning and I saw a post one of the authors made regarding the lineup for 2011. Can you believe that they wanted to get an OF and move Swish to the bench??????

    Yet another reason I try to avoid that site……..

    • bexarama says:

      I rarely go to Pinstripe Alley but when I do, the posts are generally okay. It’s just the comments that are absolutely insane. There was one post from right after the ALCS that was like, here’s what we can do for 2011, don’t panic/scream about trading everyone. And the comments were all panicking and screaming about trading everyone.

  129. Zack says:

    I’m not one to believe in curses, but the Portland Trailblazers are cursed.
    Roy is what 26 and already has bone-on-bone knee?

  130. Tom Zig says:

    Sox claim a Buchholz off waivers.

    What’s with the Red Sox and going for players that have names in common?

  131. Mickey Scheister says:

    Any chance this Vick guy can play a good OF and run the bases the way he runs down field.

    Vick for OF 2011

  132. Justin Upton is on the market. Red Sox are supposedly in on the talks.

  133. Jerome S says:

    Never going to happen, but should:
    Offer Jeter a low contract (3/20) with ridiculous incentives for finishing the season over .280, .290, .300, .310 etc.

    eh? EH?!

    • Thomas says:

      I’d wish the Yankees could do it, but you can’t give performance incentives. The only performance incentives allowed are based on appearances (e.g. PAs, ABs, games, IPs).

      The only other performance incentives are A-Rod’s home run incentives that are for career milestones, which were expected to get revenue bonuses from extra time on national TV. The media/fans will not care whether Derek Jeter hits .290 or .300.

      They could offer it based on gold gloves, MVP votes, silver slugger, etc., but those are usually only for an extra $50-$100k.

  134. FIPster Doofus says:

    The Marlins are about to trade Dan Uggla for Omar Infante and Mike Dunn. What a shitty franchise.

  135. Cashman: Okay, I am willing to give up David Robertson, Romulo Sanchez and Mark Melancon for Josh Johnson

    Beinfast: I thought you traded Melancon to the Astros.

    Cashman: Final offer.

    Beinfast: Done.

  136. The Marlins should be contracted from the league. They are a horribly run franchise. What MLB should do is move the rays to that new stadium in Miami that is being built so whatever fans that show up don’t have to sit in Tropicana.

  137. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Nightengale suggested Logan Morrison and Ricky Nolasco is enough for Justin Upton.

    If that’s the case like Gardner and one of the killer Bs plus Joba should be enough.

  138. Thomas says:

    Holy smokes. Benoit just got 3 years and $16.5M with an additional $1M in incentives per year from the Tigers.

    I think Detroit will regret this big time.

  139. From MLBTR

    The White Sox are willing to discuss Gavin Floyd.
    “4.08 ERA, 7.3 K/9, 2.8 BB/9, 0.7 HR/9, and career-best 49.9% groundball rate in 2010″

    He’d be a great alternative if the Yankees don’t land Lee. Would Laird/Adams, Warren be a good starting point? Too much, too little?

    • Thomas says:

      I think that is way too low.

      They are offering up a solid pitcher (sub 4 ERA) only making $5M and $7M for the next two years with $9.5M team option in 2012. He is definitely worth either Gardner or one killer B as the center piece, but then again with Kenny Towers who knows what he will be traded for.

    • vin says:

      They just would’ve been better off not trading for Edwin Jackson. The kid they dealt, Daniel Hudson, dominated for the DBacks.

      In 11 starts in AZ, Hudson (23 years old) had a 1.69 ERA, 79.2 IP, .841 WHIP, 5.8 h/9, 0.8 hr/9, 1.8 bb/9, 7.9 k/9.

      That’s after climbing 5 levels in ’09 – went from Low A, all the way to the big leagues.

      With Peavy, Danks and Buerhle, the Sox had enough front-end pitching to get to the playoffs. I don’t get their need for Edwin Jackson… but Kenny Williams alwasy leaves me dumbfounded.

  140. Zack says:

    The Average Bear Market: Finally, Scott Boras is out there marketing Kevin Millwood — who is coming off a horrendous year (4-16, 5.10) — as a great buy for teams that play in a big pitchers’ park. But when Rumblings asked one scout which park would be a good fit for Millwood, his immediate quip was: “Jellystone.”


  141. Captain Jack says:

    Greinke, TJU, Floyd, Uggla, and Fielder may all move in the same offseason…wow, I can’t think of a more interesting offseason for trades.

  142. Steve H says:



  143. Steve H says:

    Ron (Bronx, NY)
    Ok, I’m a longtime Yankee fan, that’s out of the way, but even though Garcia had some incredible numbers let’s remember he pitched in a no pressure place. CC must win the award based on win-loss, pressure everytime he took the mound, and his other numbers.

    Klaw (1:38 PM)
    And Ron wins the chat. BTW, is “Garcia” suppposed to be Hernandez? Or did you use Garcia as a generic term for a Latino player?

    Ron gives Yankee fans a bad name.

  144. Javy has 6 teams interested in him. Is it still to risky to offer him arb? The signing team will no longer give up a 1st round pick because he is a Type B and Javy might want to get out of NY or sign a multi year deal.

    • Zack says:

      He’s not getting a multi year deal. The worst GM ever wouldn’t even do that. And he might hate NY, but I don’t think any player has got a pay cut in arbitration; I believe a guy walks away from 10m for 2-4m when I see it.

  145. Avi says:

    Venezuelan reporter Alexander Mendoza tweets that Felix Hernandez has been named the American League Cy Young.
    According to Mendoza, King Felix is already celebrating the win with his family. Assuming the BBWAA website is functional, we should know for sure in a little under 20 minutes.

  146. Avi says:

    Nolan Ryan told Brian Costa of the Wall Street Journal that the Yanks will outbid Texas for Cliff Lee.

  147. Tom Zig says:

    David (New York)

    Dusty Baker lost by 1 point and you didn’t have him on your ballot at all. I’m not saying he deserved to be on your ballot one way or the other, but even a third place vote gets him a tie. A second place vote wins it for him. You swung the vote for Black.

    Klaw (1:16 PM)

    Except I wasn’t the only writer to omit Baker. I actually asked Mike Leake to fill out my ballot for me but he couldn’t lift his arm to pick up the pen

    Law brought his A-game today

  148. Thames Time says:

    How hard would it be for the Yankees to get Andrew McCutchen? Impossible or very impossible?

  149. Zack says:

    Evan Roberts (WFan) said that the D’Backs would probably ask for Davis, Pagan, and Pelfrey for Upton, and then him & his partner said that was too much to give up….then I laughed and laughed and laughed.

  150. Monteroisdinero says:

    Anybody like Max Scherzer of the Tigers? I was impressed with his stuff against us. Can we swing a deal with the Tigers again-this time for pitching?

  151. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Drayton McClane is selling the Astros.

  152. Zack says:

    Only one end zone will be used for offense Saturday at Wrigley Field for the Illinois-Northwestern game because of safety concerns, the Big Ten announced Friday.

    You can’t be serious.

    • rbizzler says:

      Have you seen the pics of the end zone in question? It is pretty damn close to the brick wall. Even with some padding, it is best to avoid the possibility of catastrophic injury. The plans seems a bit quirky, but the players will be safe(r) and everyone still gets to enjoy the game in a unique environment.

  153. bexarama says:

    Alby released, signs with a Japanese team.

  154. I just saw a George Springer reference in the chat. UConn, mother fuckers!

  155. tampaRob says:

    Larry Rothschild is our new pitching coach

  156. Harold Reynolds just suggested that the Mets, Mariners, and Pirates all “dangle” David Wright, Ichiro Suzuki, and Andrew McCutchen.

  157. Sleepykarl says:

    Anyone think Andy LaRoche or Delwyn Young might be a good idea to take a flyer on for a utl role?

  158. Sweet Dick Willie says:

    I can’t find it anywhere, and Joe & Mike didn’t mention it in yesterday’s radio show, but did the Yankees offer Jeter arb?

    They had to, right?

    • Zack says:

      They haven’t yet, but the deadline is November 23.

      I doubt any team has yet, you don’t lose anything. If someone goes and signs Jason Frasor today then Jays get the two draft picks without having to offer or not offer arbitration.

      • Sweet Dick Willie says:


        So I’m guessing they will, because it will only give them more leverage.

        If he declines, what team will offer > 3/$45 AND give up a first round pick in the deepest draft in years?

        If he accepts (which I believe the chances are as close to zero as you can get), I’m sure the Yanks would love him on a one year deal, even at $20+ million.

        So if there’s a downside to offering him arb, I’m missing it.

        • Zack says:

          The only downside to arbitration would be if the Lee-budget was blown because Jeter asked for ~35m and the arbitrators gave it to him based on:
          (1) the player’s contribution to the club in terms of performance and leadership;
          (2) the club’s record and its attendance;
          (3) any and all of the player’s “special accomplishments,” including All-Star game appearances, awards won, and postseason performance;
          (4) the salaries of comparable players in the player’s service-time class and, for players with less than five years of service, the class one year ahead of him.

          But that’s worst-case scenario, and makes the assumption that they have a hard budget.

          • Sweet Dick Willie says:

            But, the way I understand it, the only way Jeter would get such an award would be if the Yankees submitted a ridiculously low ball bid, like $5 mil.

            Jeter earned $21 mil in 2010, so if the Yanks sumitted an offer of $22 mil and Jeter submitted $35 mil, I find it hard to believe an arbiter would award Jeter the bid, if for no other reason that it is about 60% higher than the next closest MLB player’s salary.

            My (not so) bold prediction: they’re offering him arbitration.

            • Sweet Dick Willie says:

              Ooops! Forgot about Alex’s salary.

              Still, IMO it’s moot, because there is virtually no chance Jeter would accept arbitration.

            • Zack says:

              I don’t think anyone knows how the arbitrator(s) would rule if it’s $20m-$30m offers, because they’re allowed to go beyond stats, and talk about accomplishments.

              Only the 11th captain in team history, leadoff hitter for the game’s best offense; club is a playoff team every year, they have the highest attendance in the game; he’s won AS, GG, SS, Yankee All-Time hits leader, tied as Yankee All-Time leadoff HR leader, most posteason hits, ABs, and runs ever.

              Are all those legit reasons for 30m? No, but the arbitrators aren’t sabermetric, and not always baseball people either. And while the Yankees have 30 minutes for rebuttal – are they going to stand up there and tell Jeter to his face that the GG doesn’t matter because of his UZR?

  159. Jerome S says:

    Going to Boston dressed in Yankees attire. See you in Hell.

  160. Pat D says:

    So my parents were on the way back from Baltimore listening to the Penn State broadcast. Apparently their broadcaster said that Jeter signed the contract.

    Of course I knew this was bullshit, but I still came here to make sure. Sure enough, it’s bullshit.

  161. So I’m going through my blogroll and I see on an A’s site that one guy suggests the A’s trade for A-Rod.

  162. Jimmy says:

    I’ve been searching for a site that records promotions/demotions etc. for given players. Baseball America has a great column by Matt Eddy for Minor League transactions, but only records signings, DL activity, picking up or outrighting players nothing in there about when for example Dellin Betances was promoted from Rookie ball to Charleston in 2008 (don’t particularly care for this answer, its a general example).

    The minor league main websites have some data going back to early 2009, but no further.

    Does anyone here know whether such a resource exists?

  163. Getting a new phone today…BlackBerry or Droid?

  164. bonestock94 says:

    “Derek’s significance to the team is much more than just stats. And yet, the Yankees’ negotiating strategy remains baffling. They continue to argue their points in the press and refuse to acknowledge Derek’s total contribution to their franchise.”

    Jeter’s agent. I guess negotiations are as ugly as the media has been saying.

  165. Steve H says:

    Ignoring team needs (but current contracts included) do you give up a bigger trade package for Justin Upton or Adrian Gonzalez?

    • JGS says:

      Justin, no question. Adrian’s salary will hit Teixeira levels after next season.

      • Steve H says:

        Agree completely. I figured that was the obvious answer but I read this in the Globe today:

        A National League scout was asked a simple question: If you had only so many trade chips to use in the pursuit of a hitter, would you use them for Justin Upton or Adrian Gonzalez?

        Without hesitation, the scout said, “Gonzo. He’s a much better hitter.’’

        Considering contracts, age, positions and money, how can the answer not be Upton, especially when you can probably move him back to CF, therefore adding even more value. Upton+$10 million 1B is unquestionably better than Gonzalez+$1 million CF/RF.

        • Zack says:

          While Adrian has had a much better career so far, you’re doing that whole double-pay thing; give up top prospects, and pay the guy the market-rate. That alone makes me pick Upton.

  166. Teh Compensation Pick says:

    I did not recall until looking just now that Dan Haren actually pitched quite well after his trade to the LAA.

  167. poster on another computer who happens to be a deuce bag says:

    Just so you all know, I have not disappeared, I’m just hibernating until the season starts again.

    Now you can all stop you’re wailing and crying at my extended absence, since you know I will return.


    Right. Ego fed. Carry on.

  168. Jerome S says:

    Why does it feel like the Yankees won the World Series even when they didn’t?

    Is it just me?

  169. Tom Zig says:

    Looking ahead to the 2012 FA class, there appears to be literally no body of interest unless you count CJ Wilson, Josh Willingham, Jeff Francis, and maybe Grady Sizemore gets bought out.

    • JGS says:

      Of interest to the Yankees? Not particularly.

      There are plenty of interesting names though–Fielder, Adrian, Reyes, Jose Bautista, Buehrle, CJ Wilson.

      Plus, it’s big year for closers–Heath Bell, Broxton, Papelbon, Fuentes, Capps, Matt Thornton if Jenks gets non-tendered this year

  170. I got into a brief Twitter argument with Heyman and didn’t end up blocked. I’m disappointed in myself.

  171. Thomas says:

    Tigers sign Victor Martinez for 4 years $50M. The Red Sox will likely get the 19th pick in the draft.

    • Jose the Satirist says:

      Wow. Now I’m really curious about that rumored 3/$48M offer from the White Sox.

    • Jake LaMotta's Left Hook says:

      If Theo let him go for the sole purpose of the best available draft pick, bad move. Obviously, a draft pick in this upcoming draft is a great thing to have, but in the end that draft pick could very well bust. Sure, VMart has his faults, but the Sox lose a great amount of fire power this season. Also, with their lose of firepower and the most of the Rays roster becoming free agents, this could be a prime opportunity for the Blue Jays to compete, even though they are not necessarily ready to go for it all.

      It seems like the Red Sox are a middle-of-the-pack team continuously building for the future, and only compete for a WS when they see it as a possibility. They’re no longer the feared powerhouse they were long ago, yet they are still a dangerous team

      • Thomas says:

        It is definitely a big loss for the team.

        I highly doubt Theo let him go for the pick. First the pick may be a bust and likely will be worse than Martinez. Second, the Orioles offered Martinez 4 years and $48M, so if they upped their offer a little they could have gotten him. If this happened the Sox would have gotten the O’s second pick (their first rounder is protected). Theo really had no idea which pick he was getting.

    • JGS says:

      So who catches for Boston next year? Saltalamacchia?

      Martinez’s 122 OPS+ in 2010 represents a career low for a full season. That’s a legitimate middle of the order bat. Salty’s career OPS+ is 82.

    • Zack says:

      MLBTR said they’re signing him as their DH and back-up catcher.

      Am I crazy to prefer Dunn over Vmart as DH?

      • Accent Shallow says:

        A little. V-Mart can play catcher, even if you don’t want him to do so on a regular basis. V-Mart is probably also a better 1B. Additionally, Dunn’s type of player seems to fall off a cliff quickly.

  172. Monteroisdinero says:

    Sox just looking to clear space for Francisco (rhymes with Petrocelli) Cervelli.

  173. Monteroisdinero says:

    Aubrey Huff signs with SF for 2 years/22 million

  174. Zack says:

    Cashman: Jeter should test the market if he doesn’t like our offer. Story up soon on ESPN New York

    Couldn’t agree more.

  175. Avi says:

    Ken Davidoff: Andy Pettitte is leaning toward a 2011 return to the #Yankees, according to an industry source.

  176. CBean says:

    My (Red Sox fan) boss is being gross and talking about Papelbon replacing Mo as the Yankees closer. This is a mean thing to do when I’m stuck at work helping him out. Mean boss!

  177. Jerome S says:

    Kevin Millwood was a positive fWAR player in 2010?

    So, like, I could do this, right?

    • JGS says:

      So was Wang in 2009. fWAR doesn’t care how much runs you actually allow, only what your FIP was.

      • Jerome S says:

        Millwood had 4.86 FIP. He was terrible and his peripherals were terrible. Why am I not yet employed by a MLB organization, when clearly I could also be positive fWAR.

      • Accent Shallow says:

        fWAR doesn’t care how much runs you actually allow, only what your FIP was.

        Which is a good reason to ignore it entirely. A pitcher’s job is to prevent runs, not to post a good FIP.

        (Yes, a good FIP is a great way to prevent runs, but seven straight ringing line drives that are caught are still seven outs, even if such luck is unlikely to be repeatable)

        • JGS says:

          It’s a good reason to not base your entire evaluation of a pitcher on it. FIP does tell you what happened on the field, it just leaves out a lot. Strikeout, walk, and home run rates are important and FIP correlates with future ERA better than current ERA does. However, since a job is to prevent runs (and more importantly, how those runs are prevented doesn’t matter), that’s why I like bWAR better for evaluating how a pitcher did. In terms of “is this pitcher likely to be able to repeat his crappy (or good) performance”, fWAR is good.

          I think some people take fWAR too far, but that’s not a reason to ignore it entirely.

          • Accent Shallow says:

            There’s also some problems with rWAR: rWAR adjusts for quality of defense as per TotalZone, but fails to take into account a pitcher’s BABIP. So a pitcher with a BABIP of .270 could get a boost in “value” from rWAR, even though that BABIP is low enough to be unlikely to improve even with a better defense.

            A good example of this is John Danks.

            • JGS says:

              I’m not familiar with rWAR, but I’d argue that BABIP doesn’t matter to how much a person was worth, only how likely they are to continue to be worth that much. It doesn’t matter how you get the outs. 167.2 innings of sub-3 ERA is valuable, ridiculously unsustainable peripherals or not (that’s Dice-K 2008)

  178. Monteroisdinero says:

    If Jeter gets bitter and doesn’t resign, would it make sense to spend the money on Crawford? He plays left, Gardy moves to right and Swish DH’s. And yes, Nunez starts the season at short. Is this appealing to anyone? Carl could put up some #’s in Yankee Stadium. What a speedy outfield that would be and Nunez would just need to be adequate which I think he could be.

  179. bexarama says:

    Happy Thanksgiving, all!

  180. Jerome S says:

    I just realized why the D-Backs sucked.
    -They built a team that had low BA’s but high home run totals, despite playing in an infinitely large park.
    -Despite playing in a pitchers park, their pitchers sucked.

    Practically a recipe for failure, right?

  181. Zack says:

    6 years for a SS that turns 37 next year, oh yeah can’t wait to people try to defend that one.

    • Steve H says:

      1. He’s the Captain.
      2. He’s Derek Jeter. Again, he’s Derek Jeter!
      3. He’s the Babe Ruth of the modern Yankees.
      4. The Yankees print money, pay him what he wants for as long as he wants.
      5. Teh flip throw!
      6. He’s clutch.
      7. He deserves more than AJ.
      8. He’s the ultimate team player.

  182. Steve H says:

    From Neyer:
    More to the point, the Red Sox understand a simple truth about free agents in their 30s: They’re a great way to look foolish. If you make a list of the 100 worst moves in the last 30 years, you’re going to find a few trades and a bumper crop of contracts given to free agents in their 30s.

    Does Rob not realize that the vast majority of free agents are in their 30′s or very close to it? Of course more bad contracts are given to guys in their 30′s. By the time arbitration years are up (if they haven’t been bought out and extended) guys aren’t hitting the market at 24-28.

  183. Zack says:

    Why is AJ the benchmark for every Jon Heyman tweet? Talk about an obsession.

  184. theyankeewarrior says:

    George Sherrill

  185. Mike HC says:

    Anybody else excited to see who got the weekend writing job/s. I don’t know who applied (I didn’t), but I am definitely curious to see who the RAB three went with, ha. Good luck to all who applied.

  186. JGS says:

    Does anyone else here have the 41 game season ticket plan? I got a letter from the Yankees the other day regarding their plans for next year and noticed that they are cutting the postseason options for a number of their plans. In the case of the 41 game plan, they are dropping us from 11 postseason games (ie, all of them) to 6, and they choose which 6. This sucks, and calls for a strongly worded letter.

    This is no way to treat your customers, Yankees–just wondering how many others were affected by this.

  187. Any SABR person want to work out my advanced stats for my softball team?

    My triple slash was
    J. Cecala .324/.425/.471/.896

  188. bexarama says:

    I have MLBN’s Prime 9 Shortstops on in the background and they have Cal Ripken Jr. as #3 and A-Rod as #2. No one is a bigger A-Rod fan than I am but that is insanity.

    • JGS says:

      Percentage of games where he played short:

      Ripken: 76.7
      A-rod: 55.2
      Jeter: 99.1

    • Pat D says:

      I think that one is a little old now, but it clearly needs to be revised or taken off the air.

      Ripken probably should be high on that list, though. He was a shortstop the majority of his career, after all. The list of truly great shortstops is really short.

      • bexarama says:

        Yeah, it’s from pre-2009. When talking about Jeter (who is too low at #7, he should be over Ozzie Smith, all bat no glove >>>>> all glove very little bat, and Ernie Banks, at least) they say something like “How many shortstops have four rings?” Heh.

        I agree Ripken should be high on the list, that wasn’t my issue. My issue was actually that A-Rod was over Ripken. As good as A-Rod is/was, that’s insane. I think you can make a case that A-Rod should be on the countdown as a SS – I mean, there have been so few great shortstops – but not at #2. That’s too high.

    • Jerome S says:

      I’m guessing Wagner was the easy #1, right?

  189. Steve H says:

    You can’t sneak anything past Buster Oleny can you” From today’s notes column:

    Some Rays will accept or reject arbitration this week.

    That’s great stuff right there. Who else is providing such analysis like that.

  190. Tom Zig says:

    Sox interested in Guerrier. Hmmmm, type A free agent not offered arbitration. Only thing is, he doesn’t strike many guys out. He has a 5.9 K/9 rate for his career and was at 5.3 last year.

  191. Tom Zig says:

    (SFW, news report)

    Kid drinks 3 FourLokos and commits suicide.

    They said that’s equal to 18 beers and 6 cups of coffee.

    • Tom Zig says:

      Article from Time Magazine regarding the same incident.

    • Esteban says:

      Let’s ban everything that could be harmful in some way! The populace can not be trusted to be responsible for itself!

      • Esteban says:

        And all that bullshit about “made even more dangerous to underage drinkers by its colorfully enticing packaging and overly sweet flavor” is ridiculous. I don’t think teenagers drink alcohol because of the colors on the packaging.

        • Chris says:

          I don’t think teenagers drink alcohol because of the colors on the packaging.

          Then why do companies advertise?

          It does work, and it does make a difference.

          • Esteban says:

            Think about when you were a teenager/underage. Did you choose alcohol for the colors or because it was alcohol.
            I’ve had 4loko before, and it certainly wasn’t because of the colors or the taste.

            • radnom says:

              There have been drinks like this around for year, but 4loko is special – and thats why teenagers/underage kids flocked to it and how it became so notorious.

              You’re right, its not the color or the taste. Its the price. You can get WASTED on 4lokos ridiculously cheap. And they are certainly more appealing than “hobo drinks”. I completely understand why it so popular with the young crowd.

              • Esteban says:

                So your problem is with the price? Also, 4Loko’s being banned because people who are barred from purchasing anyway like it? How does that make any sense?
                Banning 4Loko is not gonna stop teenagers form underage drinking. Maybe we should just re-institute prohibition, so that way underage kids will never be harmed by alcohol!

                • radnom says:

                  Where did I say any of that? I was just stating why I think it became so popular, since I agreed with you that it wasn’t the color or the taste.

                  I certainly don’t support banning anything but more specifically I never insinuated that I did in my original post.

  192. Jerome S says:

    What’s Ivan Nova’s highest ceiling at this point? a number 5 starter, or a number 3? It can’t be much higher, right?

  193. Mike R says:

    Apparently the Rangers are interested in signing Pettitte. I understand it’s close to his home in Deer Park, but Andy did said if he comes back it would only be to New York.. Man would it piss me off to see Pettitte goto the Rangers regardless if we land Lee or not.

  194. Tulo is about to sign a $10 year extension. I LOVE THIS. Now all they need to do is lock up Ubaldo and I’ll be very happy.

  195. Hello RAB, I look at my computer clock and see that it is 1:58 am on a Tuesday morning. I just need a little time to vent y’know? Well, okay… here goes…

    I’ve been working on a psychology research paper since 11:30 am on Monday… 10 full pages… as a college freshman that shit is completely new to me. Cranking 5 pages out of my ass is a piece of cake, but 10 was a challenge. All is going well, especially for a psychology paper, which essentially is a giant mindfuck of a subject, yet it is interesting in the harshest of ways.

    Here is where I got super pissed, RAB. I decided to take a small break from my paper, it’s already 8:00 pm and due to my easy and slow pace I’ve done a good 7 pages with several breaks in between. Safari, my web browser, was open and had 3 windows of 6 to 8 tabs each. I decided to create a 4th window, a separate window from my dozens of sources for my research paper. I went to the Rangers-Penguins game feed in one tab, and was pretty pissed to see Crosby slewfoot Callahan on his ass, and Callahan to get the penalty for so-called interference. The other tab had MLBTR open, this was prior to the 9:36 post about Tulo’s extension I see above me. Well anyway, MLBTR has a stupid flash plugin script bug, for some reason it still isn’t fixed and coincidently crashed my web browser… 12+ websites of research material GONE…. they were not bookmarked, I had not yet cited them in my essay, and because my web browser crashed they were undocumented in the browsing history. I was hella pissed, but I’m good now that it”s all finished.

    TL;DR – mlbtr bug bent me over and screwed me sideways.

    • Monteroisdinero says:

      But Bexy argued with me at 3:15 AM! I only found out at 6:00 AM when I got up to go to work. You young whippersnappers always get the last word of the night in but I get the first word in after dawn breaks. I don’t mind battling with a 4’11″ blonde female Yankee fan. I rather enjoy it.

      And she loves show tunes. What a gal.

    • radnom says:

      What browser do you use? Depending on what caused the crash if you had been using Chrome (or Firefox I believe) it is possible you could have recovered those tabs.

  196. Steve H says:

    Jon Heyman is currently on the 98.5 Sports Hub Expert Hotline.

    Does. Not. Compute.

  197. rbizzler says:

    So, Cash is going to repel down the side of a 22 story building on Sunday.

    Seriously. (safe)

  198. It needs to stay true to itself, or at least whatever of itself remains, whatever part hasn’t been cannibalized by a god that’s colored green.

    I love you, Jeff Passan.

  199. Adam says:

    Eep, anyone see the news that Ace broke his clavicle riding a bicycle in Mexico?

    • Pat D says:

      He brok his clavicus…majorus.

      /Strong Bad’d

    • theyankeewarrior says:

      Yes, what a fucking idiot. I’m sorry. I have no patience for athletes who hurt themselves doing stupid things.

      Doesn’t he have a bad back? Why is he riding a bicycle? This is 2010. There are stationary bikes in weight rooms. He’s a pitcher. Not a cyclist.

      And how fast was he going that he could break a clavicle? I’ll say it again: what a fucking idiot.

  200. Steve H says:

    Michael Felger and Tony Mazz just theorized that doubles are the same as triples because you knock in everyone who’s on base with a double. They said 45 doubles and 5 triples is the same as 30 doubles and 20 triples. I’m not kidding.

  201. Tom Zig says:

    Bobby Jenks is likely to be non-tendered. Do the Yanks pursue him? He strikes out a ton of batters but does walk a few too many. He could be worth taking on.

    • Oliver Queen says:

      Not a huge fan. I think other teams can offer him better opportunities and will offer more money.

      • Zack says:

        Always thought he was overrated, but it’s hard not to like him after looking at his numbers.
        His FB averaged 95 over the last 2 years, he’s only had a bad FIP once (2009), and he has a career 54.3 GB% and that was 58.3% and 57.6% in 2 out of the last 3 years.

        *I know he had a questionable attitude in the past and he’s probably overweight, but I’d take him for 1 year.

  202. Monteroisdinero says:

    Pedroia the new Yogi:

    ” I’m pretty much 99.9% healed. That’s as close to 100% as we’re going to get.”

  203. Jerome S says:

    Selig’s expanded WC (I’ll call it the ObamaCard to scare people) will inevitably lead to an ugly World Series between someone 110-52 and a team that’s 85-77. No one would watch, and the horror would be staggering.

  204. Monteroisdinero says:

    Yanks make new offer to Jeter at 4:27 PM (AP).

  205. FIPster Doofus says:

    Adam Dunn to the White Sox – four years, $56 mill.

    That’s probably overpayment, but Dunn should thrive at homer-happy U.S. Cellular Field.

  206. Joey says:

    Alright people, need some help. Finally broke down and made a twitter account to follow some news and whatever, need suggestions who to follow. Got the obvious (Mike, Joe, Ben, Yankees, KLaw, other nonbaseball interest). Suggestions? TIA

  207. jsbrendog (returns) says:

    anyone going to stamford to see cahsman repel sunday? I am.

  208. Zack says:

    Wait, Wang was non-tendered? But I was told Cashman blew it last year when he didn’t re-sign him

  209. Thomas says:

    Ron Santo died. That’s sad.

    • Pat D says:

      Indeed it is.

      Watch him get elected to the HOF on next year’s Veterans Committee ballot. While it will be nice for his family, the man himself won’t be able to enjoy it and considering how many times he was snubbed, to me it would feel like a backhanded compliment.

      RIP, Ron.

    • FIPster Doofus says:


      As Pat said, it’s a shame he’ll have to be elected to the Hall posthumously. He deserved better.

  210. bexarama says:

    from an article on the biggest Winter Meeting deals:

    The Yankees didn’t repeat… Considering their myriad pitching problems and injuries, the Yanks certainly could have used Kennedy, who won nine times in 32 starts for a D-backs team that lost 97 games.


    Could the Yankees have used Kennedy? Sure, I guess. He’s a better 6th starter than most other teams have. Is the reason the Yankees didn’t repeat because they didn’t have Ian Kennedy? Um, no.

    • Zack says:

      It’s obvious they lost in the playoffs because they didn’t have IPK, not because CC & Hughes sucked against Texas.

      And don’t forget Jerry Hairston Jr., he could have PH for ARod in a big spot and won the entire series with his grit alone.

    • Steve H says:

      It sounds like an argument that the Yankees could have used the depth of Kennedy to help them make the playoffs. Problem with that is that they actually did make the playoffs, without him. And if the argument is that Kennedy would have put the Yankees over the top, vs. both the Ragners and the Giants, then I just don’t know what to say.

    • Poopy Pants says:

      I agree. The Yanks didn’t win b/c CC and Hughes ate shit.

      • bexarama says:

        Eh, CC wasn’t great but the Yankees won all of his starts. I think it’s just easier to say the pitching and hitting wasn’t there at the same time in the ALCS. And Ian Kennedy probably wouldn’t have helped the pitching there, at all.

  211. Sox trying to start a fire with AGonz rumors again… once again, it will probably go down to Casey Kelly, Iglesias, etc and Theo will balk, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they get him this time. The only thing I find strange is that it would only involve prospects.

  212. mbonzo says:

    Someone on MLBTR suggested that with AGon to the Red Sox, the Yankees have no choice but to get Crawford to compete. So he suggested the Yankees trade Curtis Granderson for Derek Lowe. I haven’t stopped laughing.

  213. bexarama says:

    Normally I like Keith Law, but wut?:

    While there’s alot to like about the makeup of right-hander Casey Kelly, Law points out that he is also a great defensive pitcher. His fielding is so strong in fact that Law writes that “it’s like having an extra infielder on the diamond.”

    • Tom Zig says:

      I laughed when I saw that. That’s Peter Gammons-esque.

    • Zack says:

      Snap-shot of Casey Kelly on the mound last year:

    • Pat D says:

      The part in quotations is the only thing that Law actually said. The little summation before the quote sounds utterly ridiculous, since it makes you think that what Law says will ocntradict the first point or something.

      I mean, the quote isn’t really stupid, he’s saying he’s a great defensive player. The way that it is presented is what is really bad about this.

      • bexarama says:

        There is nothing wrong with saying he’s a very good fielding pitcher. Heck, I’d expect that, he’s a converted IF. I think saying it’s like having an extra infielder is really dumb, though. Not killing KLaw – I normally think he’s very good and we all say dumb things.

  214. Pat D says:

    Olney with a blog post today about the Jeter contract. He uses phrases like “turning point in the relationship,” but because of a link to a Ben Shpigel article, the headline refers to the “end of innocence” between the Yankees and Jeter.

    Can’t we ever just cut out the hyperbole in this story? Must it always be reduced to some kind of lyrical, literary melodramatic love story?

    And of course then there’s the link to the Lupica article which is prefeaced by saying that Jeter deserved better from the Yankees. Needless to say, I didn’t even click on that link.

    • Poopy Pants says:

      “Can’t we ever just cut out the hyperbole in this story? Must it always be reduced to some kind of lyrical, literary melodramatic love story?”

      But it’s cool to pretend that Mo, Montero and Jeter are superhuman and gods? You can’t have it both ways. I say fans and media should stop all of the douchiness. It’s just a game.

  215. Jerome S says:

    But, soft! what light through yonder PC monitor breaks?
    It is the Bronx, and Derek is the sun.
    Arise, fair sun, and kill the envious Reds Sox,
    Who are already sick and pale with grief,
    That thou her shortstop art far more fair than she:
    Be not her shortstop, since she is envious;
    Her vestal wall is but sick and green
    And none but fools do wear it; cast it off.
    It is my captain, O, it is my love!
    O, that she knew she were!
    She speaks yet she says she wants 100 million: what of that?
    Her eye discourses; I will answer it.
    I am too bold, ’tis not to me she speaks:
    Two of the fairest Steinbrenners in all the heaven,
    Having some business, do entreat her eyes
    To twinkle in their spheres till they return.
    What if her eyes were there, they in her head?
    The brightness of her ass cheek would shame those stars,
    As daylight doth a lamp; her eyes in heaven
    Would through the airy region stream so bright
    That birds would sing and think it were not night.
    See, how she falls over his ass to get that ball upon her hand!
    O, that I were a glove upon that hand,
    That I might touch that ball!

    But I can’t because my range !#$@

  216. Esteban says:

    I really hate those Pomplamoose Hyundai commercials. Your music sucks hipsters.

    • Esteban says:

      And now Honda has Vampire Weekend in its commercials? I like Vampire Weekend, but damn car companies, stop trying to out indie/hipster eachother.

  217. Gonzo says:

    Werth to Nationals!!!
    Awesom news! Drives up the price on Crawford for the Red Sox!!!

  218. Rey22 says:

    Wow, Werth to the Nationals. That kinda came out of absolutely nowhere.

  219. pete says:

    Ok so my roommate is cool and everything, but he is the loudest eater in the fucking universe. I’m currently listening to music pretty loudly on headphones, and the mighty crunch of the apple he’s attacking is rather forcibly permeating the originally lovely sounds of The National. Pete is mad.

  220. Zack says:’s Alex Speier hears from a source that Adrian Gonzalez has wanted to play for the Red Sox for a “really long time.”
    -From MLBTR

    It’s almost like the media is easy to predict:

    Zack says:
    December 4, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    …But I’m sure we’ll hear the story lines about as a young boy growing up in San Diego, he always loved and admired the Red Sox organization and his dad always had dreams about his boy playing at Fenway.

    • bexarama says:

      I love how playing for the Red Sox was apparently his ~second dream~ uh-huh.

      • Zack says:

        Wait, you don’t remember that heavy Red Sox following in San Deigo in the early 90s?

        I think his baseball dream order goes like this:

        1st Dream – Play for hometown Padres
        2nd Dream – Play for team that gives me 160m
        ~End of List~

  221. Stayed home sick today…but I still have about 13 pages of work to do.

  222. bexarama says:

    Harold Reynolds said the Red Sox had the best team in 2010


  223. Not Tank the Frank says:

    Interesting trade. If the Jays get Zach Greinke, I’ll just… I mean… fuck. Just change the name of the AL East to the FML League.

  224. Gonzalez looks good in that Red Sox cap.

  225. BklynJT says:

    It’s hard for me to tell, but do you think that some of the opposite field homeruns that A-Gon “woulda hit” in Fenway vs Petco based on distance would actually just be doubles because of the height of the green monsters. From all the opposite field hr highlights that I’ve seen for A-Gon, not many of them look like they had the clearance

  226. Thomas says:

    Great question on the ESPN winter meeting page:

    From Rob:
    Could the Sox end up trading Ellsbury and say Darnell McDonald for Justin Upton?

    Chris Sprow’s response
    Unless Theo Epstein was holding a light sabre to Kevin Towers’ neck, no. In seriousness: Sox just moved three prospects they like for A-Gon, so unlikely they’d part with more this week.

  227. Mike R says:

    Glad to finally see a signing, albeit not Cliff Lee. I could careless if we signed Cliff Lee or not, granted he is a great pitcher. The thing that annoyed me the most about the situation is that we missed out on other pieces because Lee took his sweet ass time. Nevertheless there is nothing we can do about it, that’s how the free agent process works. That being said, I’d love for Pettitte to come back and give us one more year. There’s no way Burnett replicates his putrid 2010 season and either way we still have a good staff. I doubt the Yankees will make a movie this off season, I bet they wait until July to even go after Greinke. The best, yet probably the most improbable solution to sour the taste in all of our mouths is if the Yankees somehow pulled off some type of Blockbuster trade to bring in King Felix. That would definitely make us all feel a little bit better, but it’s hard to expect that will happen. I wouldn’t even try to get Greinke because you know the Royals and their worthless owner GLASS is going to expect everything and more, let the Rangers give him that.

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