Oct
05

ALDS Game 2: Making the same mistake twice

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So we’re seeing Joe Torre repeating the past.

Fact: Hideki Matsui is slumping badly and has been since mid-August. The guess is that his recently drained knee is bothering him more than we realize.

Fact: Jason Giambi, while not necessarily better than Matsui, is an option off the bench. It couldn’t hurt to stick him behind A-Rod and Posada for protection.

So what does Joe do? He puts Matsui, the weak link, in between Jorge and A-Rod. I guess he figures Carmona will attack Matsui while pitching against A-Rod and Posada. I would much rather see Giambi there, but such are things.

Win today and everything looks rosy.

The lineups:

Johnny Damon LF
Derek Jeter SS
Bobby Abreu RF
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Hideki Matsui DH
Jorge Posada C
Robinson Cano 2B
Melky Cabrera CF
Doug Mientkiewicz 1B

Andy Pettitte P

Categories : Game Threads
  • Relaunch

    Torre is an idiot

  • Barry

    after the top of the 1st it looks like we’ll need a gem out of andy today

  • SG

    Carmona’s sinker looks pretty nasty today. Hopefully Andy can neutralize some of their lefties, despite his L/R splits telling me otherwise (i know i’m reaching here)

    as i type this, sizemore singled up the middle…let’s get 2 and erase that

  • http://riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    You know, I’m really starting to despise this team, but only because the 8-10 minute at-bats are BORING.

  • E-ROC

    Shocking?! Torre doesn’t shake things up. ‘Ol well. Go Pettitte!!

  • ansky

    rally towels; the signature of a gimmick fanbase.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I wonder how many of the poeple chanting “Kenny! Kenny!” right now know that he played for them twice before.

  • E-ROC

    That bat flying at Pettitte was scary.

  • E-ROC

    That’s why u Cabrera is CF. Thank God, Joe Torre at least got that right.

  • Mike R.

    That’s why you’ve gotta love Melky even when he’s slumping. How huge was that!?!?!?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Way to go, kid.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Great googely moogely! Way to go Melk!

  • Mike R.

    That’s why I love Melky too!!!!!!

  • http://riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Great, great play by Mink. Huge K by Andy.

  • E-ROC

    Pettitte pitched his way out of trouble. That is how u do it, people.

  • E-ROC

    The MLB has failed me. I have to deal with Tony Gwynn’s annoying voice along with Brenly and the other strange follow. Craig Sager is funny with nasty looking suits.

  • cjc

    for a guy that all the “experts” say is a bad 1b Garko plays pretty well against us

    • http://riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Garko does suck defensively. One good play don’t mean nada.

  • E-ROC

    Carmona threw some filthy s*** to A-Rod. That’s just unfair.

    • http://riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Carmona’s stuff is junk. A-Rod struck out because he isn’t clutch. Duh.

  • cjc

    tough break there off pettite blocked by the ump and robbie bobbles it

  • E-ROC

    Cano has to make that play. Looks like he got flustered with big Pronk running right at him. I would too.

  • E-ROC

    Where was that strike?

  • E-ROC

    Does Chip Caray work the Braves games on TBS?

  • E-ROC

    LOL, these fools are going crazy in Peter Abe’s blog about A-Rod’s AB. That’s just sad. I guess they don’t know what ”good pitching beats good hitting” means.

  • ansky

    Two observations:
    1. Could the announcers be more excited when the Indians execute a routine play and virtually yawn when the Yanks do anything?
    2. Are these Yankees already booking suites for the offseason and prepping tee times? because they sure as hell didnt show up for this series so far. I guess Melky doesnt play golf.

  • E-ROC

    Pettitte is a stubborn bastard. LOL, gotta love it. Poor Lofton guessed and was picked off.

  • Barry

    did anyone notice after the 1st inning or maybe it was the 2nd, either way it was 0-0 and the scroll on the bottom of the screen showed 1-0 cleveland. It was after melky made the throw home. TBS is annoying but i’ll take it over micheal kay right now pettitte is king

  • Rob

    Jeter was safe!

  • E-ROC

    Wasn’t Jeter safe???? WTF!

    • Barry

      idk TBS doesnt do replays

  • ansky

    he wasnt….it was close but he wasnt.
    Four starters still hanging donuts in the postseason right now. Gotta wake these bats up and give Andy some more support

  • ansky

    youve got to be fucking kidding me.
    How many more leadoff men on base? Every inning?
    and Sizemore gets to start on 3rd.

  • E-ROC

    Abooboo, look at who u are throwing to.

  • E-ROC

    Pettitte is our savior. Joba for two, then Rivera. Bring it home Yanks!

  • ansky

    jesus. Andy is just amazing. Give him a bat b/c he might have to win this game on his own the way the rest of em are playing.

  • http://riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Wow, you gotta give it up to Andy.

    Now, do you send Andy back out there, or go for the jugular with Joba? I say…Joba.

  • E-ROC

    F-ed up bat breaks when Abooboo hit it against the plate. LMAO!!! That’s priceless.

    • http://riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      It was pretty funny, I especially enjoyed how he just stood there looking at the handle like “wtf?”

  • ansky

    I am trying my damndest to give Arod some serious leeway with the postseason but my patience is waning..bigtime.

  • cjc

    oh boy I predcted he would be 0-8 ging into game 3 and blow up against westbrook he looked bad these last 2 ab’s I hope the fans lay off in NY if he comes in struggeling

  • cjc

    fuck matsui seriously how many balls are you gonig to roll over jesus

  • cjc

    god do I hate Chip why couldn’t we get any of these other anouncing teams

  • E-ROC

    F-ing Sizemore!!

    Anyway, Carmona stepped his game against A-Rod in his last ABs. He threw him three different pitches. Changeup, Sinker, Slider, at least that’s what the TBS crew said. All with good location.

  • Mark

    Anybody who wants to do SOMETHING about how bad the announcing crew really is(mostly Carey, but still), go to tbs.com and email them to complain. I can’t think of anything else to do, but if anybody has a good suggestion…..

  • ansky

    and now theyre playing the song from major league??????

    are you kidding me?

  • cjc

    if memory serves alex has always been schooled by carmona going back to his relief days (which I guess was only last year) no real surprise and if that was a slider at 95 than someones having TJ before to long :)

  • E-ROC

    I love that wall. Is Torre making the right decision with Pettitte?

  • E-ROC

    Cabrera played that really well.

  • E-ROC

    Joba warming up. He probably should have been in the game before the start of the inning.

  • kunaldo

    joba motherfathers!!!!

  • E-ROC

    LMAO!! Gutierrez looked silly. Blake got scared s***less by that fastball. God, I can’t wait to see Joba in the rotation. Pettitte should’ve gotten a standing ovation.

  • Stephen

    I just spent the last two at bats laughing maniacally to myslef

  • http://riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    This is not fucking cool man, my nerves are shot. I have the phone next to me dialed 9-1, and then when I feel the heart attack coming on, I’ll hit the other 1.

    This is intense.

  • kunaldo

    i gave him a standing O

    dude, my heart is going to jump out

  • E-ROC

    Somebody get some damn bug spray!!

  • E-ROC

    Joba probably saved Torre some criticism by getting out of that inning.

    Chip Caray did a bad analogy of the gnats and Nats. It was just horrible.

  • Pete

    “you can see them flying around, as you can remember the nats in the washington also caused some trouble in the final week of the season, ooooooo”….. are you serious? these anouncers suck, actually tbs just sucks in general, you can see how embarrased cal ripkin and tony gwynn are sitting there and that dude sagar the 70′s called they want your outfit back,and does tbs have one show only, how many frank tv ads do i have to sit through, although i like his jack nicholson….

  • kunaldo

    hey craig sager, it’s 2007, not 1967…enough with the combover and psychedelic blazers

  • cjc

    shit

  • E-ROC

    Uhhh…..A-Rod got a little too excited with the bug spread.

  • cjc

    shit shit shit

  • cjc

    dougie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • cjc

    terrible

  • ansky

    well…that is completely fucked.
    And im sure everyone and their motherfucking grandma will chalk those two wild pitches up to nerves and not the goddamn quasi-locust plague.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

    I gotta say: This is abso-fucking-lutley absurd. They have to stop this game. Not at all Joba’s fault.

    • http://SportingGurus.com Adam

      No, the game should continue. However, it is bad luck.

  • RichYF

    I feel so bad for the kid. His neck has more bugs on it than hair.

    FUCKING PICK HIM UP GUYS! WORK HARD ALL SEASON GET THE FUCK TO MO RIGHT NOW.

  • E-ROC

    For real. They need to kill these damn bugs. There is always something stupid that go against the Yankees. ALWAYS!!! It’s annoying.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

    I cannot believe how terrible the Yanks’ luck is. No way Joba gives up two wild pitches without these bugs.

  • http://riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Know what I think? I’ll you what I think. Joba got some of the bug spray on his hand making it sticky, and viola, he’s throwing his slider in the left-handed batters box.

    Could really use an A-bomb here.

  • Stephen

    This is it A-Rod…

  • RJ – Ct

    hasn’t the fukcing goround crew ever heard of yard guard!!

  • cjc

    so the league has learned how to beat Joba call in the knats

  • cjc

    just a bloop buddy

  • ansky

    that was a great game they just showed in those replays. Ah the good ol days when we could come up with base hits and runs.

  • Stephen

    GODDANMIT

  • http://riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Kinda shocked they didn’t IBB him there.

    • cjc

      why would they

  • Stephen

    sorry damnit

  • Pete

    no joy in mudville

  • E-ROC

    We’ll win in 10.

  • E-ROC

    Posada should know that Blake is a low ball hitter. So setting the glove low on the inner half of the plate isn’t a good thing. 1-2-3 inning for Mo. *Yawns*

  • Joe

    I hope Joba doesn’t go all Ankiel on us. You know, one bad inning, starts using HGH, and comes back as an outfielder. Can’t really see Joba lumbering around right field though.

  • E-ROC

    Shelley Duncan gets no f-ing love.

  • cjc

    could this middle of the lineup be any fucking worse

  • cjc

    this one is going to be very hard to win now very hard

  • RJ – Ct

    this fucking game is over without the ‘swarm!!’ and listening to carey you would think this is game 7 of the world series!!

  • cjc

    the offense can show up any inning now

  • E-ROC

    Well, we won’t win in 10, but we will win this damn ball game.

    Thank you Cano for swinging at the first pitch u see.

    Why didn’t Shelley Duncan pinch hit for Matsui??? Why is he on this team, if he’s not going to be in the lineup against a LEFTY!!!!!!!???????

  • RJ – Ct

    I’m with cjc, any inning now would be fucking nice.

  • RJ – Ct

    oh yeah, and Torre, thanks for starting that shell of a man Matsui! Torre, you know that his consectutive game streak is over right? so stop putting him in!!

  • E-ROC

    Caray said Rivera threw a 95 mph slider. Get rid of this clown, please!!!

  • cjc

    what next seriously

  • E-ROC

    Goodness gracious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!

  • Lil Jimmy Norden

    im havin 3 heart attacks over here

  • E-ROC

    I respect Victor Martinez, but he’s a lefty and lefties have trouble with the cutter. Righties give Rivera problems, sometimes. I just don’t get that. I know Garko isn’t Victor Martinez. I just wouldn’t IBB Victor. Where was that strike!!!!???

  • E-ROC

    That a-hole stuck his elbow in there.

  • Lil Jimmy Norden

    for fucks sake im dyin over here….lets get some freakin runs on the board!!

  • E-ROC

    Mo gets out of the inning and I think River Ave. lost about three readers and two co-workers, LOL. Ya’ll ok?????!!

  • Lil Jimmy Norden

    im good man im good.

    we need to turn the bats on NOW. this game is winnable. lets not let it slip away.

  • RichYF

    Yeah, I’m gnawing at my fingers here. This is ridiculous. Can we do something useful FFS?

  • cjc

    so Wedge has to be stoked not ever having to use Borowski

  • E-ROC

    Now Torre brings Duncan in. WTF! I would rather have Minky hitting because of defense.

  • E-ROC

    I wonder who is going to pitch next. Ohlendorf? The Viz?

  • RJ – Ct

    It’s sad, but these games aren’t even fun to watch at this point. I’m freakin out, chuggin beers, yellin fuckyou to Perahlta when he strikesout, its truly not enjoyable!!

    Please just pull this nightmare game out!!

    Someone attempt to walk by the way!!!

    Suddenly they can’t even attempt to get ahead of the count!!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

    Let’s hope The Viz can come through here. I’m nervous. Those damn gnats….

  • Pettitte’s stare

    I can’t even deal right now. even seeing lofton at the plate scares the hell out of me

  • E-ROC

    Diaz is starting to piss me off with his strike zone. Where was that u, clown?

  • Pettitte’s stare

    anyone else see dave roberts flying around the bases when they see lofton?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

    I am no fan of Luis. He’s killing me.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

    Just get the hitter.

  • Pettitte’s stare

    why don’t we have a bullpen besides rivera and chamberlain? Everyone else is useless.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

    Vizcaino is terrible.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

    If anyone wants to blame Cashman for this, I would say bullpen construct. They have NO pen outside of Joba and Mo. It’s pathetic.

  • Lil Jimmy Norden

    ahhhh fuck cmon guys

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

    If the Yanks lose this game, what are you gonna do? Bad fucking luck and no hitting. They have a great shot at stealing both games in New York and then Pettitte could go again on Wednesday.

    But if they can just get two outs…

  • cjc

    this team needs to unwrap the bats in Oct this is a big time problem 3 hits tonight 6 walks = 0 runs last night its down right pathetic

  • Rob

    This is like watching an Indians home telecast. WTF!

  • Joe

    Holy shit!

  • E-ROC

    Fire the DAMN UMPIRE!!!!

  • RichYF

    Biggest pitch of the post season right here

  • Lil Jimmy Norden

    yick

    • RichYF

      yick indeed. What a terrible pitch.

  • Joe

    fuck

  • cjc

    middle of the order 0-10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 disgusting this series is all but over

  • E-ROC

    That’s just sad. Viz sucks, HORRIBLY!! Wasted Pettitte’s effort. Torre starts Matsui again with Giambi, Duncan and Betemit sitting on the bench. Then you have the SWARM happening while our rookie is pitching. Then Diaz decides to tighten his strike zone. Bad f-ING LUCK!!!

  • Pfistyunc

    Last night, I made the comment that Cashtard needed to be fired and was attacked. Hmm, how did his softball lineup and two man bullpen work out tonight?

  • Pettitte’s stare

    UNC I still wouldn’t put the blame on Cashman, the bullpen is something that they every team hopes works out for them. You have the solid closers but then year after year teams look for solid relievers and often times they don’t pan out. The lineup is still the best in baseball, would you honestly trade the yankees lineup for anyone elses?

    • Pfistyunc

      I would trade offense for pitching and defense. The Yanks use a softball lineup to mash their way into the playoffs every year, then get their asses handed to them by teams with superior pitching and defense. I understand that bullpens are volatile from year to year, but we have a two man fucking bullpen!! That rest squarely on the shoulders of our remarkably incompetent GM.

  • Lil Jimmy Norden

    well its in our hands in any case. we sweep at home then it comes down to 1 game in cleveland. if we lose in crunch time, then so be it.

    im beyond pissed by this lax effort by this team. get it fuckin done already

  • tony from the bronx

    the yanks lost this game because posada is a horror show behind the plate.How manny pitches does he just not catch.Both wild pitches by Joba coulgve shouldve been blocked.Then he misses Mo strike out of Grady.The yanks lead the leauge in wild pitches and pass balls for all his offense the man is not agood defensive catcher.Stienbrenner is coming to new york today.If the yanks lose this series I dont think Torre is back.Steinbrenner,will summon his last brain cells and finally fire Torre,and can you blame him.