ALDS Game 3: Do or die time


In 2003, Roger Clemens took the mound for the Yanks in a potential elimination game in the ALCS. While Clemens struggled, the Yankees won the game in grand fashion. That game would be one of the last elimination games the Yankees would win in the playoffs this deceade.

Today, the Yanks find themselves again facing elimination and again turning to Roger Clemens as a savior. Clemens has long been expected to fulfill that role for the 2007 Bombers, and this is the biggest stage for one of the game’s all-time greats.

Ideally, Clemens would have thrown more than 10 innings since September 1 and more than zero in the last 23 days. But such is the state of the Yankees pitching.

Meanwhile, it’s win or face changes for the Yankees. If the lose today, Joe Torre is gone and so are many coaches. Brian Cashman, Jorge Posada and Mariano Rivera may see their days in the Bronx numbered, and no one knows what the future holds for Alex Rodriguez.

Right now, it doesn’t matter. Win today; play tomorrow. It’s that easy. Just win today.

The lineups:

Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Posada C
Giambi 1B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF

Clemens P

Categories : Game Threads


  1. SG says:

    Minor correction, Yanks won Game 4 vs Angels in 2005 when down 2-1, Chacon on the mound, Ruben Sierra singled in the game winner i believe

  2. Travis G. says:

    i’m going to be rational here for a moment. the Yanks lost game 1 bc Wang sucked and the offense didn’t come through early when given chances. they lost game 2 bc the offense sucked all night – when you allow 2 runs in 11 innings, teams will like 90% of those games (and with the Yankee offense 95%), but no, they couldnt do anything. sure, Caino sucked and Joba got a bit wild, but still: 2 runs in 11 innings is a GREAT pitching line. it should never have gotten to 11 innings with a working offense. with 2 HOFers and 8 former all-stars in the lineup, they HAVE to find a way to scratch across another run.

    but i dont think Torre should take the brunt of the blame. it should fall on the hitters (Arod, posada, matsui) having 0-fer two games (so far) and kevin long. they’re too good hitters for that to happen (and they happen to be our 4-6 hitters to boot).

    i also hate that ultimatum that Big Stein put on Torre. that only makes the team press more. he DID manage to take this team with a shitload of injuries into the playoffs and nearly secure the best record in MLB. having said that, the team needs someone fresh, someone that might bring more fire to the team and have more trust in the youth, e.g. Joe G.

    the idea that you need to have an ACE to win in the postseason is bogus. from 95-01, the Yanks had one Cy Young winner (Clemens in 2000, who probably didnt even deserve it), while the best pitcher in baseball, Johan, has failed to take his team past the LDS once. what’s more important is having 4 very good starters (remember Cone, Wells/Clemens, Pettitte, El Duque?), and i think we’ll have that next year: Pettitte, Wang, Hughes, Joba, Kennedy, etc. however, if Johan became available, i’d be willing to trade anyone outside of Hughes & Joba to get him (depending on the circumstances).

    • Pfistyunc says:

      The rotation should be better next year, but there is no way they are going to get Santana without giving up Hughes and/or Joba.

  3. Pfistyunc says:

    Well, look at the bright side. No matter what happens, at least we put up more of a fight than the Angels!! Freaking pathetic.

  4. cjc says:

    now make it up jeter

  5. cjc says:

    typical yankees PS inning

  6. Gibb says:

    God, if you read yankees blogs, please let the yankees win.

  7. cjc says:

    pathetic by Jorge again

  8. Adam says:

    Actually a good call by Torre.

    • SG says:

      Agreed. Clemens had nothing, my friend thinks he was tipping the splitter, but even if he was, it wasn’t biting. Hughes gives us a chance to stop the bleeding.

      Side note, Jeter’s throw in the first was brutal, could be the difference. I wonder if the papers will write about that or A-Rod…

  9. cjc says:

    now lets go

  10. Mike R. says:

    Jeter is a great friend. He is really doing everything he can to make sure the press doesn’t blame A-Rod for this one. What a guy!

  11. Ben K. says:

    This is seriously getting pathetic. I hate to be pessimistic but these guys aren’t Cy Young. Get some hits.

  12. Ben K. says:

    At least Phil Hughes is showing his stuff.

  13. cjc says:

    its fucking on now

  14. cjc says:

    my friend has always said a HR is a rally killer its amazing how true that is (just an observation obviously you will take the HR every time)

  15. Count Zero says:

    Breaking news: Hughes Not Over-rated. :-)

  16. cjc says:

    Phil has really manned up tonight

  17. cjc says:

    very smart move by Wedge walking Matsui even with his struggles Cano has been poor with the sacs full

  18. cjc says:

    and clearly lifetime numbers mean nothing big time robbie

  19. eli says:

    why ptich joba two innings tonight when hughes was pitching so well and we had a solid lead? No way he can go for two again tommorow.

    • SG says:

      agreed, eli. esp with a 5 run lead, i figured we’d see vizcaino or farnsworth there. if they get in trouble, then call the joba.

      then again, it was the heart of their order, can’t be too cautious with the season on the line i suppose

      • Mike R. says:

        I think this shows the total lack of confidence that Torre has in anyone in his bullpen not named Joba or Mo. He’ll probably throw Mo multiple innings tomorrow if need be.

    • Count Zero says:

      Agreed!!! We’re going to need Joba tomorrow if we win this one.

  20. eli says:

    torre cant even stall properly

  21. cjc says:

    I know people are going to complain about Joba going 2 tonight but this isn’t August you don’t mess around tonight because than there is no tomorrow worry about who pitches tomorrow tomorrow

  22. eli says:

    they were up 5 runs and hughes was lights out. if they get in trouble use him. thats why he the set up a guy not a middle reliever.

  23. eli says:

    certainly you have to win at all costs but you dont have to handcuff yourself for nothing

  24. Count Zero says:

    At least I can now face the Mets fans in the office tomorrow.

    It looked pretty bad at 3-0 in the 3rd. Co-MVPs Damon and Phil HUGE.

    Will it be Moose or Wang on short rest? I vote for Wang despite that game 1 disaster.

  25. NYFan50 says:

    It’s Wang. Torre just said so in the press conference.

  26. Stephen says:

    That’s the right move. The short rest could help him as a sinkerballer and you definitely like to see Wang in the Bronx, not on the road.

  27. Brian says:

    Phil Hughes: your Game 1 starter in Boston. A guy can dream, but Wang and Mussina support each other tomorrow, one pitches well and we have a chance. Pettitte for Game 5 against Sabathia.
    Hughes Game 1
    I’m not getting ahead of myself I’m not getting ahead of myself I’m not…..

    • dan says:

      i realize that you’re not getting ahead of youself getting ahead of youself getting ahead of youself, but if the yankees have to use mussina tomorrow then theyre probably not winning the game: That would mean wang isn’t pitching well, and then what are the chances of mussina pitching well after him?

  28. Miles Roche says:

    glad the yanks won’t face carmona on wednesday if it comes down to it. he’s outright nasty.

  29. Mike A. says:

    Phil was absolutely brilliant tonight. I’m looking forward to 10 more years of that.

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