The Yanks are looking at Francisco Cordero just in case Rivera doesn’t end up signing a contract. They also want to bring back Luis Vizcaino to fill out their bullpen.
The Yankees should get Cordero anyway. They need a quality setup man. As for Luis Vizcaino, I guess it’s good that he’s returning. Maybe his second season in the AL will do wonders for him
What are the chances of Luis Vizcaino staying healthy in 2007? I think they’ve gotta be less than 50-50. He’s a Type-B FA, let him walk and take the draft pick. For the most part he’s easily replaceable.
Cordero wasn’t the same last year after Ned Yost pitched him 6 days in a row, that’s scary. The docs would have to give him a good once over before signing him.
The only time Cordero pitched 6 games in a row was May 4-9. In his next 25 games, he had 34 K’s in 24 innings with only 6 walks and 1 hr. He got bombed in 2 games, and only gave up a run in one other. http://tinyurl.com/yoy3og
The rest of the season after that point, he struck out over 12 per 9, with a 5.73 K/BB ratio in 46.2 innings. If there was a shoulder issue last season, I’d love to see what he’s like at full strength.
Cordero will never sign in NY as a setup man, because he can get closer years/money elsewhere. Of course, that’s unless the Yankees are willing to sign MO for $15 million a year, and then sign Cordero for $10 million a year, and convince him to setup.
But then you are paying $25 million for 2 innings in a game, and what, maybe like 160-180 innings total between the two of them in a full season? That’s like paying for Johan Santana to front the starting rotation.
brings up a bigger question, then… what brings more value to the team?
trading prospects to bring in Santana (or add Ace here… Oswalt, Haren, etc), and pay him $25 million a year for 30-35 starts, or basically sign two closers for 6-9 outs a game, and roll the dice with Joba, Hughes, and IPK in the rotation for a full season?
anyone else think that mariano’s $45M over 3 years would be better spent as $30M over 3 years for a younger cordero with $15M left to spend on santana/bedard/etc.?
also, seriously, barry bonds can be had at a serious discount for only one year, and while it would be a circus, having him an arod together would allow the media attention to be spread out over two guys instead of just one. also, everyone already hates the yankees, so adding bonds can’t really hurt much. finally, here is the most convincing argument:
hit bonds 3rd, and arod 4th.
you either have to pitch to bonds, or alex is going to be constantly hitting with guys on base. these extra runs will cover a lot of uncertainty in the rotation/bullpen.
They are paying Jason Giambi to play his best Barry Bonds imitation this season. No chance Bonds is a Yankee. None.
Barry Bonds is facing like four years in jail. Why the hell would any team sign him?
Maybe they want to appeal to the inmate market?
all this would work great…….on your Playstation 3.
only if you believe Cordero will be better that Mariano in the AL over the next 3 seasons. the money is irrelevant in this situation.
in 2009, if Santana is available, the Yankees are not going to NOT sign him b/c they are paying an extra $5M/year to their closer for the first 2 seasons of Santana’s likely 7-8 year contract.
The Yankees O is a much more balanced one than it was from 2002-2005. Aside from Matsu/Posada/1B the Yankees can run every player in that lineup. Out of the top 4 guys in the lineup, 3 of them had 20+ stolen bases this past season (Damon/Abreu/A-Rod). The Yankees run, and they like to hit & run more than often for a AL team.
Why sign Bonds who would clog up the basepaths, make Jason Giambi a $21 million dollar cheerleader, and force either one of Johnny Damon, Hideki Matsui or Melky Cabrera out of the everyday lineup.
I wouldn’t do it, simply because of the uncertainty of bonds’ future. There’s already a roster crunch, this would force Giambi to be either released or traded, and an outfielder to be traded. Also, Bonds and Arod in the same clubhouse as arod is chasing his record would make everyone crazy. However, the two of those hitting back to back could be more productive than Ruth and Gehrig.
Let not go too far.
I don’t think that’s going too far. Bonds has won 7 mvp’s and arod is talked about as being potentially the greatest player of all time when its all said and done.
Enough of the “clogging the basepaths” theory. I guess it’s better to have a speedy guy who doesn’t reach base so he can’t clog up a basepath than a hitter who reaches base? The clogging the basepath logic is typical of a fan who only sees the negatives of a situation.
I don’t want Bonds on the Yankees but it’s not because I’m afraid he’ll clog the basepaths.
Clogging the basepaths hasn’t stopped the Yankees advancing during the last few playoffs, lousy starting pitching was the culprit.
Cordero lost his closer’s job in Texas not more than 2 years ago, doesn’t that concern anyone?
Not really…. how often do you find a reliever as good as Cordero being a set-up man? He lost his closing job in Texas because of a terrible April, and never got it back. From May 1 to the time he was traded to Milwaukee, he was pretty dominant…. http://tinyurl.com/2qhs8k (and the ERA goes down about a full point if you take out his last game with Texas.)
no he doesn’t. he just isn’t an elite setup man. he is what he is. a somewhat reliable middle reliever who will chew up 60-70 innings for your team at about a 4.25 ERA.
that has value.
if they let him go and take the draft pick, i am fine with that. if they bring him back for a year, that’s ok too.
he is OK. not good, not awful.
See we could have had Codero and his 3 Era in the NL and 6 Era on the road.And you saw if we didn’t get Rivera we would get Codero not Joba as closer.Yeah Jorge more imporant.
Let’s think about this one.
Closer: Maybe 70 innings, maybe 8-10 really tough saves.
Catcher: 140+ games, 600 plate appearances, great offensive production.
There’s really no doubt who’s more important.
please, expand upon the significance of his road ERA in 2007. i’d love to hear what you think it tells us.
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