Was another Hughes deal on the table?

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Reiterating what The Daily News reported on Friday, ESPN notes that a Yankee source says Johan Santana trade talks are dead unless one of the Steinbrenners changes his mind. Interestingly enough, ESPN notes that the Yanks had an offer centered around Phil Hughes on the table until last week. It was my impression that the offer had been pulled in December, but the Twins knew the Yanks were willing to trade Hughes for Santana. Now, it seems that we have indeed saved the Big Three.

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  • zack

    Saved, of course, until Hank decides otherwise or the Sox suddenly “have the inside track” with a package centered around Coco Crisp and Craig Hanson…

    On the other hand, it really does look like there is more power sharing going on than Hank would like to admit.

  • E-ROC

    Hank wants Santana. It’s all up to Hal whether deal happens or not. I can’t wait to see a motivated and healthy Hughes this season. It’s going to be fun seeing the glimpses of dominance. The Show can’t get here any sooner.

  • Rich

    It’s difficult to truly know which offer was on the table at any particular time given the vagaries of Hank’s shifting positions.

  • Count Zero

    Happy One Month Till Pitchers & Catchers!!! Especially the pitchers. ;-)

  • godfather

    my left one for a hughes chance to spearhead nyy pitching…really want to see him in stripes because he seems to “get it”; of course, i’ve been watching them since a guy named joe played center

  • brad k

    I hope a kid with 13 pro starts, and not that impressive to boot, can get the job done. If not I know a 2 time Cy Young winner, in the prime of his career, we will all be wishing we had traded for.

    • steve (different one)

      i certainly understand the argument for wanting to trade Hughes for Santana.

      that said, criticizing Hughes for his first 13 starts is beyond dumb.

      Hughes was a lot better this year than Santana was at age 21. too bad the Twins didn’t trade him for Mike Hamption in 2000.

    • Nefarious Jackson

      did you happen to be awake to catch the playoff game he had versus cleveland Brad K? …. clueless

      • TurnTwo

        of course, because 4 innings is certainly enough to judge his future career in NY on.

        • daneptizl

          He’s just saying that if he can just as easily be great than horrible.

        • Nefarious Jackson

          and we can judge he will suck after 13 starts… at 21… in the AL east… when his last three starts he had an ERA under 3.00… and those four innings, it wasnt like he was under ANY pressure, right? at 21??? like I said- CLUELESS

  • Motown Yankee Fan

    Interesting that the offer is pulled just after Hughes starts throwing in Tampa. Maybe Eiland is seeing something more than expected from Phil. My hope is that I get to cheer Phil and the other two on March 31 in the Bronx and that on August 1, 2008, Johan is still a Twin.


    I’m beginning to be a big believer in the BIG THREE. At this point, it seems as if my biggest fear has abated – the only reason I wanted Santana was to keep him away from Boston, if Boston is without Santana I’m more than comfortable about our chances next year.

    That being said, I’m still kind of confused as to how the pitching is supposed to set up amongst the BIG THREE with their limited pitch counts. Can they honestly pitch an entire season, and perhaps the playoffs, with a 160-180 innings cap? If so, how would it be accomplished – skip starts once a month; out after 6? Sounds kinda shaky, and we may have to be looking more towards ’09 rather than ’08.

    p.s. Steve (different one) – why don’t you tell us what you really think of Brad K? Ha.

  • steve (different one)

    nah, i didn’t say anything personal about Brad, i don’t know him.

    i said it was dumb to criticize Hughes for his first 13 starts.

    there is this strange idea that elite starters spring into the majors fully formed at age 21 and that is simply not the case.

  • Realist

    Lol , I too thought the “Hughes deal” was pulled awhile ago? It matters not , as this young man has to be allowed to fail….which he won’t…imo. I am willing to bet that Hughes , Joba and IPK ALL benefit from having Eiland as their pitching coach….not to mention “The Wanger”…

    It is stupid to criticize a 21 year old after 13 starts , mostly without his leg drive….but stupid people say stupid things……..that’s why they aren’t running a MLB team ;-)

  • http://www.yankeesetc.blogspot.com/ Travis G.

    I believe the deal on the table was: Hughes, Melky, Marquez & Hilligoss.

    but c’mon, this deal is not dead until it happens. and Minny is going to call up Hank before he trades him to see if the Yanks will give up more.

  • steve (different one)


    so much for that.

    Steinbrenner said reports that the Yankees recently withdrew a formal offer to the Twins are not true.

    “There wasn’t an official offer anyway. You can’t withdraw something that wasn’t there,” Steinbrenner said. “There was no official offer on the table at this time.”

  • boylestock

    And Here we go again….

    Yankees VP Hank Steinbrenner said his team was still in the hunt for Johan Santana.
    Steinbrenner said ESPN’s report that the Yankees pulled their offer was untrue. “There wasn’t an official offer anyway. You can’t withdraw something that wasn’t there,” Steinbrenner said. “There was no official offer on the table at this time.” According to Steinbrenner, there has been some dialogue between his club and the Twins. “It’s still in the deciding process,” he said. “We’re still discussing it. There’s still a little talk back and forth.”