Joba: Seriously, I’m fine

October 1, 2008 by Benjamin Kabak 35 Comments

While George King was busy printing rumors about Joba’s shoulder, another Post reporter decided to ask the man himself. Joba says his shoulder is a-okay. He says he just couldn’t get loose on Sunday in Boston. There’s nothing wrong with that; it was raining and chilly. Plus, as anyone who ever participates in any athletic activity knows, some days, you just can’t get loose. There’s nothing to see here, people. Move along.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos

Okay, folks, nothing to see here, break it up, folks, nothing to–
OH MY GOD, A HORRIBLE PLANE CRASH! EVERYBODY, GET A LOAD OF THIS FLAMING WRECKAGE! CROWD AROUND!
Crowd around, don’t be shy, crowd around.
- stefan
  
  Simpsons quote of the day. Good stuff, good stuff.
Steve S

That first line of the article is so misleading-

“Joba Chamberlain revealed…”

Talk about going for the dramatic.
- Ivan
  
  They couldn’t think of a better lie so they had to tell the truth.
dan

Someone should keep score on these newspaper writers. See how many of their claims are correct and how many are completely made up.

Bill Madden: -6785
George King: ?
- http://www.workwithpete.com Pete
  
  You know, I’d visit that site EVERY day.
  
  Call it, “Anonymous Sources” …
AndrewYF

George King: -(3^^^^^3)
Ivan

Speaking of Bill Madden did anybody read his latest dumb article today. Talking about the yanks should trade Hughes and Cano for Matt Holliday and sign Orlando Hudson (who might be shot). Nevermind that Holliday is a left fielder who can’t field and is gonna want a ton of money after the 09 season which is another long and bad contract. Do people understand that kind of stuff got the yanks in trouble in the first place.

Why does Bill Madden has a job? People like him, would make ya lose your job.
- http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.
  
  Why does Bill Madden has a job? People like him, would make ya lose your job.
  
  Because by writing such stupid stuff, he gets people talking about him. We’re not talking about common-sense articles by smart writers that often, but whenever Madden posts something so absurd, someone invariably talks about it. It helps the News sell papers, and that’s why he has a job.
  - TurnTwo
    
    exactly. sometimes people forget that for these reporters, much like talk show hosts who get a little crazy, the whole point is to sell a product… whether that be newspapers, advertisements for the radio, etc.
  - Ivan
    
    Ya right.
  - jsbrendog
    
    so does this mean if i start making stuff up about stuff i can sell books?
    - A.D.
      
      potentially
    - http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos
      
      James Frey says hello.
A.D.

Annnd the Post still tried to spin that brief article into starter vs reliever debate….never fails
Bo

Why were Joba and Mo even pitching the final 2 weeks of the season?

Not like they had shoulder problems or anything.
- http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.
  
  Ok what? Joba did not have shoulder problems. That’s the whole point here.
  - steve (different one)
    
    and Mo has had this “problem” the entire season and was able to pitch through some pain without causing further damage.
    
    i’m sorry this doesn’t fit your “no one in the entire organization knows anything” agenda, but sometimes it’s educational to review the “facts” before “typing”.
Bo

They didn’t trade Hughes for Santana because they had faith he’d be a top starter. What makes anyone think they’d trade Hughes now especially for a LF?
- http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.
  
  If you’re going to reply to a comment high up in the thread, can you please use the reply function? That’s why we have it. Otherwise, you just get random comments floating in the middle of nowhere like this one.
  - steve (different one)
    
    also, if they traded Hughes for Santana, they would have Santana and perhaps no means to acquire Holliday.
    
    by waiting, they may be able to sign Sabathia and then trade for Holliday.
    
    so looking at the two possible outcomes:
    
    Santana/Damon in LF/no Hughes
    Sabathia/Holliday/no Hughes
    
    considering the 2nd option is probably an improvement on the first, there IS an argument that it might make sense to trade Hughes now.
    
    i am not saying they should, or will, do that. i am simply saying there are options that are available via Free Agency that were not available last offseason which MAY make trading pitching for a position player a smarter move than trading pitching for pitching.
Old Ranger

Would one say; Bill Madden, George King are interchangeable? 27/09
radnom

Shoulder problems at least explained why he isn’t building up his innings right now. Has anyone come across an explanation of why they are just letting that go?
- whozat
  
  I think he has too many big-league innings to go to any of the fall leagues, no? And maybe they don’t want him shutting it down and then cranking it back up for winter ball only to shut it down in time for spring training.
Yankees 4ever

I was wondering if anyone had ever seen these websites: http://www.pitching.com and http://www.drmikemarshall.com and if you think the Yankees pitchers would benefit from some of their ideas.
- http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8065 Accent Shallow
  
  I’m not going to pretend to be an expert on the pitching motion and what causes injuries, but the general consensus is that Marshall is a crank. Check the article under my name for more information.
  
  I’m unaware of the work of Dick Mills, and I have no idea if he’s a worthwhile instructor or not.
  
  That said, I’d assume that the Yankees have access to all the latest data on pitchers, their motions, and working towards an optimal delivery for every pitcher in their system. It’s always possible to give bad advice, but the impression I’m under is that the Yankees have an excellent mL instructional system in place.
  - Yankees 4ever
    
    Thanks Accent for that article, very informative, even it was a bit confusing. I think the Dick Mills site (pitching.com) may actually be better. He preaches a different type of pitching style (a la Lincecum) that puts less stress on the arm, elbow and shoulder.
Old Ranger

Joba is telling the truth…until/unless proven he isn’t! If he says there is no problem with his shoulder, I’ll believe him…two reasons; we need him (starting) next year, we need him healthy next year. If one contemplates the loss of Joba for next year…need one say, CMW.
With a starting line-up of CMW, Joba, Phil, maybe Pavano/Giese/Coke along with 1-2 FA for next year, I would say we will have a good pitching staff…but only if everyone stays healthy. 27/09.
- The King
  
  Do you really believe 27/09 will have an impact on next season?
  - Old Ranger
    
    Damm, I hope so…realistically, no! One can think optimistically, so…27/09
  - Old Ranger
    
    27/09… along with good pitching, defence and a much younger athletic team would go a long way in helping. 27/09.
whozat

After we see the fallout of who accepts arbitration and stuff, and can better assess what’s available on the market for OFers and such…what would people think of trading Damon? He’s coming off a great year with the bat, and is thus our most marketable vet. He’s also likely to regress, but a team looking for a Proven Winner and Proven Leadoff Man could probably be talked into taking him pretty easily. We’re going to have a CF issue to face anyhow. If Bobby accepts arbitration, that gives us a glut of corner guys. Damon could bring back a solid return, I think.
- Old Ranger
  
  I would welcome a trade of Jonny and arbitration for Bobby. Then trade Bobby along with Johnny…if Bobby excepts. We really don’t need either one of them next year, both of them are liabilities in the OF.
  We have IFs in the OF for next year…X-Man-LF/RF, Brett-CF, (Melky?) FA-RF!?
  I know some think with Brett in CF is a bad idea but, I believe in him as long as we have guys to knock him in. Sept., is not a good time to judge a player but…he has shown a big improvement, “Brett makes shit happen” (as someone said). 27/09.
  - http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.
    
    Don’t tell anyone, but the Yanks probably will need an upgrade over X. Nady before too long also. He didn’t exactly awe in September.
    - Old Ranger
      
      If we can up grade on Nady…go for it!
      As long as we still have A-Rod, Posada, Matsui and Cano, all back to back we can live with Brett, Jeter in the 1st and 2nd spots. Who will be batting 3rd…Cano, Nady or ??? Do you move Jeter to the 3rd spot, he can hit at a good .300+ clip and hits with runners in scoring position (except this year,DPs)? Many good questions for the winter. 27/09.