Jan
10

Nats inquire on Nady, Swisher

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Add the Jim Bowden to the list of GMs calling Brian Cashman. According to MLB.com’s Bill Ladson, the Yankees and Nationals are “currently in trade discussions” involving Xavier Nady and Nick Swisher. It’s unclear what the Nationals would offer the Yankees, and I still don’t think the Yanks should be in such a hurry to trade either of these two players. However, this is one rumor that might carry some weight. The Nationals need some pop, and the Yanks could be trying to clear payroll for one final pitching signing of the Hot Stove League. (Hat tip to MLBTR.)

Categories : Asides, Hot Stove League
  • http://asportsaddictneedsdivineintervention.blogspot.com/ E-ROC

    Bowden and Cashman already matched up once on a trade. Maybe they can do it again.

  • Goosemania

    Bring in Lastings!

    • TurnTwo

      this was something i was thinking about today.

      prob have to trade Swisher over Nady, but get Milledge in return to play CF, or compete for CF, over Melky and Brett.

      plus, if Milledge was to do well in the Bronx, just more salt to rub in the Mets fans’ wounds, which is always a bonus.

      do the Gnats have any pitching that would be of interest? I know of Lannan, but dont know much about him.

      • http://incumbentgm.wordpress.com The Third Yip-Yip

        Balester, Martis, Detwiler are all solid prospects (Balester saw significant time in the bigs last year) but the Yanks need position players first. Up-the-middle players are typically the most valuable; I would hate to see Swisher go without a centerfielder of shortstop/second baseman coming back.

  • BigBlueAL

    Who the fuck would the Yankees want/get from the Nationals????

    • http://asportsaddictneedsdivineintervention.blogspot.com/ E-ROC

      Would you take the gamble of possibly acquiring Elijah Dukes, if Bowden is a meathead?

      • BigBlueAL

        Not really.

        • Jay CT

          I would do Nady for Dukes. I said that earlier today…

      • Ivan

        I would.

      • Currambayankees

        No, Dukes, please!!!!!!!!!!. I’d like to see Cash hold on to both unless he’s blown away by a trade and I mean blown away.

    • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      Chris Marrero?? Michael Burgess? Destin Hood as PTBNL? Ross Detweiler?

  • Doug

    how about milledge. would he be an improvement over gardner or melky in CF or is his 91 OPS+ not worth it

    • A.D.

      lastings millege is a bad defensive CF, they might as well play swish there

      • TurnTwo

        where is the evidence for this?

        as a prospect, i thought Milledge was sold as a plus defender in CF, though i could be wrong.

        • Doug

          according to thhe fielding bible, he’s not among the 10 best CFs or the 6 worst. somewhere in the middle

  • Charles R.

    I can’t really think of someone to get from the Nats. Maybe Dukes. Milledge? I’ll pass. Still too early to trade Nady or Swisher but maybe teams just keep on calling the Yanks for those two.

    • kSturnz

      If Bowden would be willing to trade a Dukes/Milledge package, I’d be all for it.

      • Doug

        for who?

    • TurnTwo

      the bonus on trading a guy like Nady for a player like Milledge is that you are clearing what, like $5 million+ in payroll in the swap?

      the money saved can then go into a pitcher still on the market to pitch or compete for the #5 slot, whether it be a Pettitte or Sheets or Pedro, etc, and you have another young, athletic OF in the organization for 2010 and beyond ready to go if Damon and Matsui both walk after 2009.

      more options = more gooder.

  • BigBlueAL

    Maybe they will just trade either for prospects and use the saved money on Derek Lowe????

  • Chaz

    Let Girardi manage this team. I think we have a great team with what we have. Last year’s team was unmanagable. We had no one useful on the bench. Swisher, Gardner/Melky, Cody Randsom, and Molina is a very formidable bench. And as we have all seen injuries can happen at any time, so depth is a good thing. I really like Aceves and would love to see him fill our 4 hole and give some quality innings.
    If we do make a trade it better be for some quality position prospects to replenish our system and we’re not gonna get any if we seem at all desperate to make a move.

    • Abe

      word

  • THU

    Dukes said he was going to kill his gf and her kids, had sex with a minor, has 5 kids with 4 different women and the list goes on. I would not want him on the Yankees, I don’t care if he’s got talent or not. I wanted to make a deal with the Nats, just not a big one. I’d rather got the clippard-Alba, Gonzo-nunez route.

    • Ivan

      Iight but people can change.

    • kSturnz

      we’ve had yankees with problems in the past. We are not the Bengals, we can afford to take in a player with high upside and a troubled past.

      • A.D.

        We’re also the Yankees, we can afford players without those issues

        • Will F.

          Those are awful issues!! I think we can speculate better than that!

    • http://asportsaddictneedsdivineintervention.blogspot.com/ E-ROC

      No one is denying that Dukes might have problems from the neck up. The Nationals actually hired a former police to follow him around during the season to make sure he stays out of trouble. Maybe the Yanks can do that and get results. I don’t think he had any incidents in 2008. That’s progress, I guess.

  • masonflint

    Not much they could offer up.. they wouldn’t give up prospects of any worth. They are not giving up Joel Hanrahan (which would be the first player i would ask for). Maybe they would give up either milledge or elijah dukes? read somewhere that those two are gonna battle it out for the CF spot, so they might be willing to deal one. Milledge would be an interesting addition to the CF battle. Not sure if either player is worth a headache. just keep swish and nady.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    I don’t like anyone from the Nats. Milledge and Dukes might have the most talent but I can’t see their attitude playing well in NY at all.

    I know Girardi runs a tight ship and all, but even so, it’d make me very nervous.

    • TurnTwo

      idk… i think Milledge got a bad rap while making his debut in the Mets organization.

      since he’s been with DC, what has he really done to deserve the continued criticism or bad-teammate label?

    • Doug

      how about their top pitching prospect, jordan zimmermann

      • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

        that’s too much. zimmerman is close to the majors and he projects to be a #2 starter.

        • Doug

          swisher/nady + kennedy not enough?

          • TurnTwo

            so is this the obligatory “+ Kennedy” trade proposal of the evening?

            • Mike Pop

              Adding IPK nets us almost anything.

            • Will F.

              Good point. Everyone thinks if you throw in kennedy it seals the deal. Let’s just trade nady,matsui and kennedy for rollins, hamels and howard and call it good!

              • Doug

                never said it seals the deal, but kennedy does have some value, esp. for a team that would be willing to stick him at the back-end of the rotation and just let him pitch with low expectations. he’s never gonna get that in NY.

      • AndrewYF

        They have enough Zimmerman’s already.

        What team ever won the World Series with two Zimmermans on the roster?

        I rest my case.

        • Doug

          okay, i’d have no problem taking their 3B either

  • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    @ anyone: Whom would you take for Nady? My thoughts are above:

    http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ent-253913

    • Charles R.

      Michael Burgess I guess. The Yanks were projected to pick that kid last year if I remember correctly. As much as I like Detwiler, that’s a bit of a reach I guess.

    • http://asportsaddictneedsdivineintervention.blogspot.com/ E-ROC

      Michael Burgess.

  • Charles R.

    I was looking at the Nats roster and now have an idea which players we should get. Enough of Dukes and Milledge. Here’s what the Yanks really need.

    Xavier Nady/ Nick Swisher for Tyler Clippard, Alberto Gonzalez, and Wil Nieves. Heh.

    • BigBlueAL

      We would have to give up more to get a package that good from the Nationals.

      • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

        Word. If I were the Nats I’d require Joba for that.

    • Will F.

      Let’s give swisher an at bat first. He isn’t worth much now and by yankee standards he could be a bargain. I think he could be a gamer and be clutch ala brosius and martinez. Let’s see how he fits before we throw him away.

  • BigBlueAL

    For you Mets haters, go to MLB Network, the 9th inning of Game 7 of the 2006 NLCS is coming up.

    • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com VO

      ahhhhh i love tht

  • Ivan

    You Delhome is having an awful game.

    • http://asportsaddictneedsdivineintervention.blogspot.com/ E-ROC

      That’s putting it mildly.

      • Mike Pop

        E-ROC, who do you want to see win tomorrow? I assume you would rather face the Chargers than the Steelers.

        Also Larry Fitz is the best WR in the NFL.

  • JeffG

    I’d like the idea of moving both out and effectively consolidating the position with Adam Dunn if we could sign him for 3yrs for 12mil per.
    Would be a little of a downgrade on defense but having a guy that averages 40HRs a year with career .247 /.381 /.518 you think you would want to make that move if the price is right and this off season with all the corners out there they are going cheap.

  • Doug

    supposedly the nats inquired about both swisher and nady. if we send both of them off to washington for prospects (burgess + detwiler maybe), don’t be shocked if we get in on manny

    • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com VO

      i would love for tht if the outcome was manny, but its probablly for another pitcher like lowe, or theyll just give pettite 16

      • Doug

        if we dealt 2 bats, we’d have to get another bat back

        • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com VO

          yea in the trade, or we just use another minor leaguer, trust me manny isnt gonna happen, too much money needed

          • Doug

            other than miranda maybe, we don’t have ready bats in the minors. and manny wouldn’t cost much more than nady + swisher

            • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com VO

              well now that i look at it your right, it would cost about 10 mill more which they could use if they dont sign pettitte

              • Doug

                really wouldn’t shock me

        • TurnTwo

          unless you plan on signing a bat via FA.

          • Doug

            that’s what i was saying, get rid of both swish and nady, we get in on manny

            • TurnTwo

              i dont disagree with your idea, but at this point, i think we can all reasonably rule out Manny, whether Nady, Swisher, or Nady AND Swisher are traded off the roster before spring training.

              • Doug

                but if both nady and swisher go, we would have to get another bat. lineup would be too weak

                • TurnTwo

                  thats why that would never happen.

                • Doug

                  bu why would you “reasonably rule out manny”?

                • TurnTwo

                  because the Yankees arent signing Manny.

                • Doug

                  okay. whatever you say

                • TurnTwo

                  you can be dismissive if you want, and count me into the column of people who want to see Manny in pinstripes as the DH, but for a second be a little realistic.

                • Doug

                  wasn’t being dismissive. asked a question why we should rule out manny. haven’t gotten an answer yet.

                • TurnTwo

                  because the yankees arent signing another OF/DH type to a $20 million/year contract?

                  because Manny has never been in the good graces of Cashman and Girardi in general?

                • Doug

                  that’s an answer

    • Will F.

      Oh your a genius! A modern day Nostradamus!

      • Doug

        problem?

  • teixburnathia

    Whats the risk of trading Nady/Swisher for Elijah Dukes? He’d only be on the bench and he could eventually take a starting job with the talent that hes got

    • http://asportsaddictneedsdivineintervention.blogspot.com/ E-ROC

      Elijah Dukes can start in center.

      • Abe

        Yea if he isn’t in jail.

        • http://asportsaddictneedsdivineintervention.blogspot.com/ E-ROC

          True. I don’t think he’ll go to jail anymore. Dukes has mouths to feed.

          • bronxbrain

            I read an article that made Dukes seem as though he were in the process of growing up and recognizing his own shortcomings. If his head were even somewhat on straight, then he would be an enormous acquisition–the sort of young, athletic, five-tool outfielder that the Yankees need. I don’t think Nady along would get him, but, if the Nats would make that deal, then I would hope that Cashman jumps at it.

            http://washington.nationals.ml.....8;c_id=was

            • Mike Pop

              Agreed, I would deal Nady for Dukes real quick. I just don’t understand why the Nats would want Nady. They are not contending next year, it just does not make any sense. I have trouble believing these rumors of Pittsburgh and now Washington. It just doesn’t make sense for these two teams to be inquiring on Nady.

  • Doug

    dukes is a risk in and of himself

  • Ivan

    Don’t ya luv the looks of met fans after the Molina homer.

  • BigBlueAL

    On a side/meaningless note. Have you seen the players who are being considered for Team USA since so many of them are declining invitations?? Amazing how all the guys who play for the Dominican and Puerto Rico are dieing to play but the Americans for the most part could give a crap.

    Its a shame because the WBC has alot of potential to be a great event. I still say it should be played in November.

  • http://twitter.com/OldRanger Old Ranger

    Unless the Yanks can get a player that is really good, by that I mean; Young, athletic position player…not, a DH type or trouble hunting guy. I favor players such as Baldelli, Crawford etc., the chance of us getting one of those guys is………..0!
    Keep what we have and forget more pitchers…we have a ton of them. Give them a chance to show they are worth something

    • Currambayankees

      I so completely agree with you. The Yankees should let the kids show what they got. Yeah, they had a bad year last year, so what? Most young players in particulare pitchers struggle their first year or two in the Ml but still need a chance to prover themselves. Also, unless the Yankees get an offer that blows them away I would hold on to both Swisher/Nada because both Matsui and Damon are big injury risks plus we still don’t know what we are going to get from Posada.

  • Moboy(aka McLovin)

    Swisher is not a bench player.He can still hit 30 homeruns and 90 rbi’s.He might not hit a 300 average like overrated Jeter but he can still hit better then some Yankee players and is healthy.

    No need for a $8 million bench player.

    • http://incumbentgm.wordpress.com The Third Yip-Yip

      +1 man, hearing that helped ease my fear that he will be traded or benched.

    • Mike Pop

      I didn’t understand why you had to throw in “overrated Jeter” but I guess you felt it was necessary.

    • Will F.

      Sorry that jeter has four rings. He must suck. He may be in decline but let’s not forget what he meant to those championship teams. Do us all a favor and don’t speak until spoken to.

  • Stryker

    i sincerely hope the yankees are smart and realize how undervalued nick swisher is. i realllllyyyy want to see him get a shot with the team rather than be traded away for a player like dukes or milledge. swisher > both of those guys and has an even better head on his shoulders.

    too much depth is NEVER a bad thing.

    • Abe

      I usually don’t like the ‘better head on his shoulders’ argument but in this case when you are talking about fools like Milledge and Dukes I have to agree with you. Plus I really like Swisher because he is undervalued and hope that if we trade someone it is Nady and not Swisher. Swisher also plays a better right field.

    • steve (different one)

      i sincerely hope the yankees are smart and realize how undervalued nick swisher is.

      uhh, they just traded for him. i think they are aware of it.

  • Ivan

    You know whats funny of Beltran K’ing on the curve, was that before that pitch, Wainwright just threw a curveball.

    • Abe

      yea that was Wainwright’s out pitch the entire postseason. I watched that game with some serious Mets fans and one of them called that Beltran would strikeout looking at a curve.

    • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com VO

      you no wut else is funny about it? is that, is the guy everyone jumps on the yankees for not signning. Now If he was on the Yankees and he struck out looking in a big game he would b called non clutch, sucks in the playoffs, and is going out with a girl twice his age named madonna

    • http://www.nowlive.com/comboplayer/NewComboPlayer.aspx?id=129711&override=true Joey H

      Not to mention on only 3 pitches. WITH, the bases loaded.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Looking for an 0-2 fastball. He looked like he saw a ghost once the ball started a break.

        • steve (different one)

          in fairness, it was a pretty ridiculous pitch.

  • Ivan

    Best team in the NBA is…………..?

    • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com VO

      knicks

    • http://asportsaddictneedsdivineintervention.blogspot.com/ E-ROC

      Cavs

      • Ivan

        I might just say……………IDK

        • Mike Pop

          I still say Boston even after that massive pounding last night.

    • Ricky

      Nuggets! Just kidding…I like the Cavs and Lakers and maybe Boston.

  • Ricky

    Like most of you, I would also like to keep both Nady and Swisher unless its an offer that cannot be turned down no matter what. An offer like that could include on of their top 10 prospects.

    1. Jordan Zimmermann, RHP
    2. Ross Detwiler, LHP
    3. Chris Marrero, 1b
    4. Michael Burgess, OF
    5. Jack McGeary, LHP
    6. Derek Norris, C
    7. Destin Hood, OF
    8. Adrian Nieto, C
    9. J.P. Ramirez, OF
    10. Esmailyn Gonzalez, SS

    • Kelvin R.

      I would really like to know more about the Nats prospects. They have some C prospects in that list. Really would like to know if they are close to the majors.

  • steve (different one)

    i would do Nady for Milledge.

    no thanks on Dukes.

    and can we please not lump Milledge and Dukes together? Milledge got in some trouble when he was a kid, since then his biggest crime is liking rap music and high fiving some fans.

    Dukes is a legitimate nutjob.

    • Ivan

      Dukes is also a better player.

      Dukes OPS+ was 125 with a .386 OBP which was 122 pts higher than his batting avg. compared to Milledge who’s OPS+ was 91 and his OBP was .330.

      • Doug

        duke + nyc = big trouble

      • steve (different one)

        i understand that. Dukes is immensely talented. i was at game 2 of the 2007 season, and Dukes hit a HR off Proctor that probably never got 20 feet off the ground from his bat to the seats. just an absolute laser.

        but the guy is someone i would have trouble rooting for.

        • BigBlueAL

          I believe he also hit a HR on opening day that season as well. Of course hitting a laser off of Proctor isnt that difficult to do….

          • steve (different one)

            good point.

  • rob

    I proposed this the other day during the live chat and it got shot down: a package of Nady and a combo of Kennedy/Veras/Ramirez to the Nats for John Lannan and Willie Harris. Listen the Nats are not going to give away Milledge for a player one year before he is a free agent. I think this package makes sense. Harris can play all three outfield postions, plus 2nd, ss, 3rd. Lannan is a young lefty but a back of the rotation starter. He pitch 182 innings and had similiar stats with Andy.

    • steve (different one)

      Listen the Nats are not going to give away Milledge for a player one year before he is a free agent.

      i would probably agree with this. on the other hand it doesn’t have to be one for one.

    • Mike Pop

      Not to mention Willie Harris was clutch in the World Series with the white sox ;)

      • BigBlueAL

        So was Scott Podsednik :-)

        • Mike Pop

          We need that kind of clutchiness.

  • Januz

    I really wonder what the Yankees have up their sleeve? Could it really be Manny? If they give Swisher and Nady to Washington, it may happen. I hope not, I can’t stand Manny.

    • Doug

      i’ve been saying all nite, it wouldn’t shock me

      • Mike Pop

        I would be shocked by that kind of move.

        • Januz

          I am thoroughly anti-Manny, and I don’t want him here. But here is a jolt of reality. If they would trade ONE of those two guys, it is no big deal. But if they are both traded, for prospects, then it is happening.

          • Mike Pop

            Lets say Manny went to Texas. Do they win that division. I think so, that lineup would score 1000 runs or more I would think. Maybe some of their young pitchers comes up. If they gave up like 5 runs a game they would still get in lol.

    • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com VO

      i dont think he would accept the offer though because he would have to cut his hair and shave, imagine that! manny clean!

      • yankeefan91 (sign manny)

        i would love to see manny in da bronx hes fucking clutch and we need that bat in are lineup

        • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com VO

          forget the clutch imagine the grit! no but really i always have liked manny bwcause of his antics is kinda funny, and if his bat was in the yankees lineup i would order the rings

  • Nat Lurker

    You won’t get Milledge, and Dukes in NYC would not be wise because of the media pressure. You might get a reliever and a lower level prospect, but it won’t be a top 10 prospect for Swisher or Nady. I don’t know if Nat management would give Hanrahan for one year of Nady, but they might do it for the longer contract of Swisher. Just a guess though. The Nats also have a couple of terrific fielding CF prospects in Bernadina and Maxwell. No way you get Burgess, Hood, Marerro, etc… those guys are the future. You get top prospects in trade from contenders, not builders.

    • Mike Pop

      So in short. You don’t make a trade.

  • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com VO

    just a question do you think matsui would waive his no trade clause? if so for who? i think he might because of the whole japanese respect thing?

    • Will F.

      Are you retarded?

  • rob

    Please this manny talk has to stop…..1st I don’t think BOTH Swisher and Nady are going to be moved. The Yankees are not going to get a 37 year old Lelf Fielder….Where is Damon going to play? Cashman does not want him inCF Manny 4 years ago would have been great…I believe Manny was playing for a contract last year….Do you want him in the lockerroom….Cash I beileve really want to lower the payrole and and losing Nady and Andy would be around a 17 millon savings and that money is not going to Manny

    • A.D.

      Manny + Dukes in the locker room, no way anything goes wrong

    • Will F.

      Manny is an ortiz dh in the al The only reason he played the field in boston was because of ortiz. The only way we get him is if we unload matsui. Don’t hold your breath.

  • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com VO

    why dont we ask for aaron boone?

    • gio

      boone signed with houston. his “clutchiness” factor is rather high, though.

  • DreDog

    I like the Jack McGeary and Michael Burgess ideas, but I don’t think the Nats would not part with them. That would go against their philosophy of draft and hold, building brick by brick.

    I think the Reds match up better. Or pray Nady is a Type A after the season.

  • Gleb

    Nady+Hughes+__
    For
    Chris Marrero

    Swisher, Jackson, Marrero -future OF.

    Make it happen.

    • j-man

      Who would trade your former #1 Prospect, 22 years old, possibly on the verge of a breakout season in the rotation, AND your starting RF for the 3rd best prospect in the worst minor league system in the MLB?

  • Frank B.

    Ben K. said it in this post… the Yanks are going to clear payroll, what they get back is less relevant than their motive IMO. They want to get another pitcher (see Lowe). Dialog may already have taken place between Lowe, Sheets or Perez contingent on one of these guys being moved… it wouldn’t shock me. IDK, just thinking out loud.

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