Open Thread: Continuing the Torre story


What I love about the nightly open thread is that we can write about basically anything. If you find it boring, irrelevant, or overdone, you can just skip over the post and dive into the comments. If you want to use the post as a jumping off point you can, but there’s certainly no obligation to do so.

Why did I open like this? Because I saved up some articles relating to the Joe Torre book, and I figured I’d dump them on you in the open thread, rather than litter your day with them. I know a lot of people are sick of the topic. Even for those who aren’t, it’s a tough topic to navigate because so few of us, if any of us, have read the book. We’re going on reactions. But they can be fun too, right?

First up is Ken Davidoff. He wrote about Brian Cashman‘s relationship with Joe Torre following the 2005 season. Yet before he gets into that, he says something about A-Rod which I think is worth repeating:

And as Tyler [Kepner] points out, if Mariano Rivera had just picked up the save in 2004 ALCS Game 4, then Alex Rodriguez would’ve been riding a monster first two rounds into the World Series, and we wouldn’t be standing here today, dissecting A-Rod the way we do.

Of course, this isn’t blaming Mo, just like “if he hadn’t thrown the ball into center field we would have won the 2001 series” isn’t blaming Mo. It does bring up an interesting point, though. People also kill A-Rod for striking out with a man on third and less than two outs in the game, and then dismiss his early home run. This I will never understand. Sans the home run, Mo doesn’t have a lead to blow.

Next up, and also relating to A-Rod, is a statement by Brian Cashman. Bryan Hoch brings it to us.

“I think we’ve gone through so much of the Alex stuff that, you know, if anything, maybe this brings people closer together,” Cashman said on Monday during a conference call to announce Andy Pettitte‘s one-year contract.

I’m not so sure this will bring anyone closer together. Cashman does have a point, though: the team has been through all this. They’ve dealt with A-Rod for five years now. I doubt anything Torre makes public in the book will change how the guys on the team view him now.

Finally, Jack Curry has some quotes from Torre on the book. The former Yanks’ skipper made it clear that he never used the word “betrayal,” despite every tabloid in the city saying so. He also had a comment on A-Rod: “I don’t think I said anything about A-Rod that I didn’t say already.” Yeah, that you didn’t already say to Tom Verducci. Thankfully, it appears A-Rod is taking this all in stride.

This is your open thread for the evening. The Knicks and the Nets are off tonight, the Hurricanes are in the Garden, and the Devils are in Ottawa.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. The Evil Empire says:

    Hot Stove MLB Network: Joba in the pen by the end of this year? … ?

    • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

      I brought this up last night. Its almost inevitable that he will wind up in the bullpen in the playoffs, if not before then. 2 reasons

      -Even if you skip him once a month, he’ll still log roughly 150 IP by the end of the year, which most believe to be his limit this year.

      -When you look at the likely post season rotation, he probably doesn’t get a start anyway. CC, AJ and Wang are just about locks, and you usually don’t need a 4th starter. Even if you do need one, Andy could still get the nod if the opponent is susceptible to lefties.

      The only way I see him starting in the post season (assuming we get there) is if he spends a month on the DL earlier in the year, and someone else is hurt heading into October. I don’t see them giving him another 25-30 innings in the post season if they have another good option, and assuming Andy has a good year he’s a good option.

      • … or they just shut him down in early September and call it a year.

        There’s that possibility too.

        • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

          Even if they’re in the playoffs? That would be one hell of a waste of a great arm.

          I know the Joba-Bullpen/Joba-starter thing has unfortunately become contentious, but the Yanks can’t concern themselves with those things. They have to use whatever they have to win games, especially in the playoffs. Another 10 innings spread out over a month won’t kill him, but acting as a ‘relief ace’, he could be a huge difference maker.

          That’s the best argument the pro-bullpen guys have, that Joba can affect the outcome of more games by being used as a true fireman (or relief ace). Not just in the 8th inning, but anywhere the game is potentially on the line. He could be one hell of a weapon.

          • Another 10 innings spread out over a month won’t kill him

            … we hope.

            • Ryan S. says:

              Assuming Joba logs in 140-150 innings in the regular season but is managed correctly and is feeling good, I don’t see there being much risk in letting him be the 4th starter (as much as I love him, Andy can be the long middle reliever)- that’s only about 12 innings extra assuming he starts twice. If the bullpen is doing good and someone like Bruney or Veras legitimately earns that 8th inning role during the regular season, I think that’s how Joba would be best used. If that ever illusive “bridge to Mo” isn’t effective during the regular season though, it might be worth bring Joba back to the ‘pen one last time. Regardless, if Joba is healthy and has some gas in the tank for October, why not take advantage of one of best arms in baseball?

    • celerinosanchez says:

      Torre is looking like a real whore. Yanks paid him a lot more than other managers and put up with his playoff losses for many years before bidding him goodbye. He presided over the greatest collapse in playoff history. After he lost the pushbutton bullpen of mendoza, stanton, nelson and rivera, he was exposed as an absolute butcher when it came to the end of the game. Show me the games the Yanks won because of his managerial genius. Wasn’t it his job to get the best out of his team (including A-Rod)? Or maybe his job was to rest on his laurels, drink green tea, and make the stinky foot face. Sorry about the rant, but this really rubs me the wrong way. The new Joe (Girardi) won 89 games after losing 3/5 of his rotation. I think we’re in better hands.

      • Sweet Lou says:


        You can also add the failure of Torre/Stottlemyre not calling a pitch out when Dave Roberts is leading off first in Carl Lewis track position.

        Also, the fact that John Olerud got hurt during the Red Sox series – it hurt them badly but obviously it was not Torre’s fault.

  2. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3863517

    A person close to Rodriguez told the Daily News that Rodriguez wasn’t concerned with how he is portrayed in the book, set to be released Feb. 3.

    “He laughed at the stuff because he is so beyond all of that,” the person said, according to the report. “Personally he feels like he’s in a great space in his life and felt very comfortable last year in the clubhouse and with his relationship with his teammates.”

    According to the report, a person close to Rodriguez said A-Rod “doesn’t feel like he had any real relationship with [Torre],” and thus isn’t hurt by anything Torre might have said or written about him in “The Yankee Years.”…

    While Rodriguez cared more about what people said and thought of him when he arrived in New York in 2004, he doesn’t worry about it as much anymore, a person close to him told the newspaper.

    “He says he got the Jeter stuff out of his system when he had that press conference [at the start of spring training] a couple of years ago,” one person said, according to the report. “He came to grips with the idea that Jeter didn’t want to be his friend again the way they were years ago, and he stopped worrying about it.

    “He’s heard the A-Fraud stuff, and he has admitted he tried too hard to make everyone like him when he came over to the Yankees,” the person said, according to the report. “But since then he has become more at ease in the clubhouse, and he believes he is more accepted as one of the guys. He has taken the young Latin guys like Melky [Cabrera] and [Robinson] Cano under his wing and they really look up to him. He believes things are a lot different now.”

    2009 ARod = Mashtastic .320/.415/.660

    I can SMELL IT, bro.

  3. Joey says:

    So any snap judgments about MLB Front Office Manager yet?

  4. Manimal says:

    Anybody here watch Fringe?

  5. ???? says:

    MLB 2K9 versus MLB 09 the show…who wins, by how much? Explain…

  6. Mike Pop says:

    Heh, they just called Joba and CC fat.

  7. Ken says:

    Michael Kay has been repeating the last two years how Joe Torre does not like him. I wonder why? Kay claims he does not know why Torre hates him. I wonder what the real reason is? Kay is two faced phony, he rips the Yankees players, manager, GM, and owners on his radio show but when he is on Yes, he does not continue his criticisms, he will not say anything negative about the Yankee organization.

    • Jamal G. says:

      I read that Torre felt that Kay was one of the Yankees’ minions that asked deliberately uncomfortable questions of Torre.

      • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

        Yep, that’s what I’ve heard as well.

        It just goes to show the Yanks were a house divided under Torre in the later years (2003 on). You were either pro-Torre or pro-management. You had to pick a side, and that kind of dissension is unhealthy in any business. Everyone needs to be pulling in the same direction, not pulling against each other.

      • Matt says:

        *Joe Torre and Don Zimmer are on the phone. Joe is recalling his first date with Michael Kay*

        Don: Hey
        Joe: Hello.
        Don: So?
        Joe: What?
        Don: Come on. How was your date?
        Joe: Oh, the date. The date.
        Don: Yea, how was it?
        Joe: Interesting.
        Don: Really?
        Joe: Oh yea.
        Don: Why what happened?
        Joe: Let’s see…how shall I put this?
        Don: Just put it.
        Joe: He took it out.
        Don: He what?
        Joe: He took (blows on glasses) it out.
        Don: He took what out?
        Joe: It.
        Don: He took It, out?
        Joe: Yessiree Bob.

    • steve (different one) says:

      Kay is two faced phony, he rips the Yankees players, manager, GM, and owners on his radio show but when he is on Yes, he does not continue his criticisms, he will not say anything negative about the Yankee organization

      as opposed to Torre, who rips Yankee players, GM, and owners in his book, but now that the reaction has been negative, has backpedaled while hiding behind a “third person narrative”.

      Kay is a douche, no question.

      but i am a lot more prone to believe that Torre is petty and apt to hold grudges than i was 3 days ago.

    • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

      “Kay is two faced phony, he rips the Yankees players, manager, GM, and owners on his radio show but when he is on Yes, he does not continue his criticisms, he will not say anything negative about the Yankee organization.”

      That’s just silly. They’re two totally different jobs. Talk radio is about being provacative, getting people’s attention. Its all about one man’s opinions and the audience’s reaction to them.

      The lead announcer of Yankee broadcasts is there to introduce the game, describe the game, and offer some analysis. TV announcers get in the way of the game if they talk too much or inject too much opinion. Its not about them, its about the game.

      Totally different jobs.

  8. Mike Pop says:

    Heh, Joe Magrane already.

  9. Jamal G. says:

    Here’s one about Kevin Brown: http://weblogs.newsday.com/spo.....nkees.html

    Later, Torre tells of a 2005 game against the Devil Rays in which Brown stormed off the field down 6-0 after one inning, and later was found by the manager, shirtless and “curled up on the floor in a tiny crevice in the corner of a storage area in the back of the clubhouse.”

    “What are you doing?” Torre said.

    “I’m not going to go out there and pitch anymore,” Brown said.

    “What are you going to do?”

    “I’m going to go home.”

    “You might as well go home,” Torre told him, but warned him that if he quit at that point he was through with the team.

    Brown put his jersey back on, returned to the mound and threw four more innings.

    Jesus, Joe, did you really have to out the dude like that? God damn…

      • Jamal G. says:

        Jane Curtin: And, an embarrassing note: 19-year-old Anita Dark of St. Petersburg, Florida, filed a paternity suit this week, and has claimed that the father is Weekend Update Sportscaster Chico Escuela. Ms. Dark alleged that she became intimate with Mr. Escuela last Spring, when Chico was in Florida attempting a comeback with the New York Mets. On advice from his lawyer, Chico can’t comment on Anita Dark, but he is here this week to tell us about sports. Welcome home, Chico!

        Chico Escuela: Thank you, Hane. Basebal bin berra berra good to me. Anita Dark bin berra berra good to me.. but Chico can’t talk about it. In sports, Charles White won the.. how do you say.. Heisman Trophy. Now, look at this run. Charles White is the best football player. He runs with authority. Chico run from authority.. but I can’t talk about it.

        Uh.. Darrell Dawkins does it agian. Look at this. [ show video of slam dunk that shatters the glass backboard ] He break the glass! He break it! Why do they use glass? The backboard should be stronger! Should use cement.. or steel.. or iron. Not rubber! Rubber break! But I can’t talk about it. Back to you, Hane.

        *Laughs out loud*

    • Mike Pop says:

      Can’t believe Torre said that about Brown. Sellout.

    • Chris says:

      Heh… that game must have been Cano’s debut:


    • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

      Brown, huh?

      Guessed right on that one. (pats self on back)

      BTW-Yes, Torre’s a douche bag for outing him. I think we all know that by now.

  10. Joseph P. says:

    So there’s an SI writer, female, named S.E. Cupp:


    There has to be a month’s worth of jokes in that name, right?

  11. Thomas says:

    Random non-baseball related question. If you had to go to a concert where the lead act is Fall Out Boy or Limp Bizkit, who would you rather see? I realize both suck horribly, but you have to go see one.

  12. Jamal G. says:

    Here’s instance number two of Joe Torre being a hypcrite (the first one was him bitching to ARod about ordering club attendants to get coffee when Torre did the same – only he ordered them to get his signature green tea): http://tinyurl.com/cvzt4q

    But he has gone beyond his own code of conduct with his book. In spring 2003, David Wells and a ghostwriter published a book, “Perfect I’m Not: Boomer on Beer, Brawls, Backaches and Baseball,” and Torre was furious, angry that Wells had aired some of the Yankees’ dirty laundry in the pages. Wells tried to distance himself from some of the words in the book, saying they belonged to the writer, but the Yankees’ manager would not accept that. After a meeting with the pitcher, Torre said this to reporters:

    “We talked to him about a lot of things today. I just sensed he was bothered by it. Not by what we said, but by how it came out. How much of it is actually what he said and how much isn’t exactly what he said, I don’t know.

    “But there’s no question: It has his name on it, and he has to be accountable for it.”

    Torre, Cashman and George Steinbrenner held Wells accountable — in the end, he was fined $100,000 by the organization.

    Now it is Torre’s responsibility to be fully accountable for the words in the book that has his name on it, and he must stand behind those words.

    If he hides behind Verducci and the suggestion that the ugly anecdotes aren’t his, the explanation will have echoes of “I didn’t knowingly take steroids.” If he embraces the words as his own, he also should acknowledge he has been, at the very least, extraordinarily hypocritical.

    Just keep on looking like a douche, Torre, we still have sixty-nine days ’till Opening Day to talk about this.

  13. Evan says:

    I hate when people try to give Varitek worth by saying the pitchers’ have 1.5 lower ERA. No shit versus who, the guy catching for wakefield, or the guy who never catches these guys and is filling in when tek is out injured. Just a stupid statistic.

    • Jamal G. says:

      I haven’t even clicked the link yet, but don’t worry about those reviews. I’ll say it again, if you’re on the fence about this game, do not get it. You have to be an absolute baseball dork to enjoy this game, or else you’re going to want to break it offering contracts to every arb-eligible; every player with less than three years of service time; and every player who’s eligible for free agency.

  14. A.D. says:

    Heh Garland resumed talks with the D’Backs….looks like he isn’t getting any offers….no shock there

  15. Chris says:

    In most of the excerpts released from the book, Torre spends his time ripping the head cases that he had to coach. I wonder if Cashman thought (like most people did) that Torre was a good people manager and would be able to control these head cases. In the off seasons prior to 2003-2005, Cashman brought in a bunch of head cases, like Randy Johnson, A-Rod, Carl Pavano, Kevin Brown, Jaret Wright, Gary Sheffield, and Karim Garcia.

    I wonder if Cashman assumed that Torre would be able to handle these guys because of his success in the glory years. After things fell apart, Cashman learned his lesson. The only guy that would fall in that category acquired in Torre’s last two off seasons (2006-2007) would be Kyle Farnsworth.

    Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but the manager’s job is to manage the cry baby baseball players, not bitch and moan about how they’re cry babies.

    • bicsharpie says:

      I don’t think that Jaret Wright was a headcase. That dude didn’t work out but it’s pretty obvious that he was a hard worker and a decent dude. He and Pavano had similar injury histories but at least Wright tried to fight through them for the betterment of the team.

  16. Lanny says:

    Well, they have done an amazing job of hyping and selling this book.

  17. Joey H says:

    I’ve said 1,000 times on my radio show, Pettitte will be back. It was too obvious. This rotation will be awesome.

  18. Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

    NoMaas hitting it out of the park once again


    “NOMAAS EXCLUSIVE: Torre to release second book


    Highlights of the book include:

    - His 894-1003 record before he went to the Yankees
    - Blaming everyone else for winning only one division title in 15 seasons
    - Feeling betrayed by GM Frank Cashen after leading the Mets to a 286-420 record

    And last but not least, his inability to handle a pitching staff and his poor work ethic:

    There were whispers about his problems handling pitchers, teaching fundamentals, arriving at the ballpark too late and leaving too early. (Source: The Atlanta Journal Constitution, Feb 2 1985, Page B2) “

  19. rickross says:

    NoMaas chat right now…sucks compared to RAB’S…

  20. bicsharpie says:

    Speaking of the Joe Torre book, is anyone else as shocked as I am that the NY Post hasn’t ran a back page headline that says “Classless Joe”?

  21. Mikey (Yankee Fan in the OC) says:

    The chat’s alright, Lane Meyer knows the most out of the NoMaas guy so this is a decent chat. Yeah, Mike does do a better at choosing questions and answering them with some sort of intellect.

  22. Hollywood says:

    Why doesn’t ESPN come out of the closet and officially market themselves as the worldwde leader in pro-Red Sox and anti-Yankee propaganda? In a cut-in during the UK/Ole Miss game, they talk first about Gooden and Justice involved in steroids, and they just happen to only show highlights of them in Yankee uniforms. Despite the fact that these guys are known for their days with other teams, and many people hardly remember them in a Yankee uniform. The second story was of-course more banging the drum on how badly Torre ripped the Yankees.

    Nobody can complain about the Yankees having YES network when the Sox have the biggest sports network in the world running their propaganda. When the Yanks win the Series in ’09, ESPN will probably make like Al Franken and try to just have the result changed while no one’s looking.

    • Steve H says:

      Last line is classic.

    • Matt says:

      “Why doesn’t ESPN come out of the closet and officially market themselves as the worldwde leader in pro-Red Sox and anti-Yankee propaganda? In a cut-in during the UK/Ole Miss game, they talk first about Gooden and Justice involved in steroids, and they just happen to only show highlights of them in Yankee uniforms. Despite the fact that these guys are known for their days with other teams, and many people hardly remember them in a Yankee uniform. The second story was of-course more banging the drum on how badly Torre ripped the Yankees.”

      Agreed. And every time they showed FAs during the beginning of the winter, if possible, they showed clips of them bringing the pwn to the Yankees.

    • A.D. says:

      Yeah I notices all the Justice clips were in a Yankee uniform, and its just really, he’s known as a Brave & Indian

  23. Evan says:

    Are any of you following the Australian Open?

    • Matt says:

      Somewhat but not really.

      I always love playing tennis because I’m good at it for like…ten minutes. Then my baseball/softball swing kicks in and end up knocking the ball over the line too much.

      • Evan says:

        I played it briefly one summer but my serving problems were Kournikova-esque so I haven’t felt motivated enough to playing it again. I’d love to get back into it, though.

        Well, the tournament sure makes it easy to lose a lot of sleep, lol.

    • BigBlueAL says:

      Stopped watching as soon as Ana Ivanovic was eliminated….

  24. Joseph P. says:

    Hey, anyone ever watch Burn Notice? I liked the first four episodes plenty, but if this continues in the mold of “Michael someone finds someone in need, goes to great lengths to help them for little compensation relative to the risk, makes inkling of progress in finding out who burned him,” I can see it getting old quick.

    • Matt says:

      I watched one episode. It was alright but I’m more than likely never going to watch again.

    • Jamal G. says:

      Same as you. I just gave up after the first three episodes, it just didn’t entice me enough to keep coming back.

    • Thomas says:

      I’ve seen all but one episode and it is pretty good. They all have the same basic plot of Michael help those in need and those part have gotten a little stale. However, the later ones (late first season and the second season) have progress in who actually burns him. I’d still recommend watching it. The first few are a little slower.

    • Hollywood says:

      I’ve been a religious Burn Notice watcher since day 1. The 1st season is pretty much like you described until it picks up at the end. In my opnion the 2nd season really takes off, and I don’t want to be blasphemous here, but it’s starting to get like The Shield for me in that I’m really anxious to see how it progresses from week to week.

  25. Manimal says:

    How bout that new show lie to me, did anyone like it? I thought it was ok, a little gimmicky and lame at some times and I got a little lost in the plot (They just randomly introduced that senator or whatever he was, I thought he was involved with the murder of the teacher)

  26. A.D. says:

    Shows I enjoy watching right now:

    The Unit

    Anything out there I’m really missing?

  27. Ace says:

    Varitek has spent his entire major league career with Boston, which obtained him and pitcher Derek Lowe from Seattle for reliever Heathcliff Slocumb on July 31, 1997.

    Nice trade, Seattle.

  28. Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

    Stealing this from Nomaas chat. Great question, a variation on Kill-Fuck-Marry.

    Keep One, Release One, Trade one to Red Sox

    Hughes, Brackman, Betances

    • A.D. says:


      Keep: Hughes
      Release: Brack
      Trade to Sox: Betances


      Hughes is closest to majors, is damn good, and will likely be successful.
      Brack: Better than Betances
      Betances: greatest chance of busting

      • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

        “Brack: Better than Betances”

        Please back this up with stats.

        OK seriously this time, why do you think that? We’ve seen Dellin pitch in pro ball with varying success at age 20. Brackman’s an unknown at this point, and his Hawaii Winter ball wasn’t pretty. I know there are reasons for that, but he’s 22 and the fact remains we’ve yet to see him pitch effectively, so how do you put him ahead of the more established (at a younger age) Betances? Also, reports I’ve read have Dellin’s SO potential higher than Brackman’s.

        • A.D. says:

          Basically, I think Brackman is generally considered a better prospect than Betacanes, thus why he’s higher on essentially every prospect ranking sheet.

          There obviously isn’t enough comparable sample to rank Brackman ahead of anyone on pure stats, and there are similar concerns for the 2 in injury & control.

      • Mike R. says:

        Provide analysis to back up your statement. :)

    • Thomas says:

      I’d keep Hughes, release Brackman, and trade Betances. The chances of Brackman and Betances getting to Hughes level are small and Brackman’s upside is higher Betances.

    • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

      BTW-That says trade one TO THE RED SOX, so it could come back to bite you. Big time.

    • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

      I’ll go



      Trade to BoSox-Brackman

      Rationale being Hughes is too complete, and I have more doubts about Brackman than Dellin

  29. paul says:

    So let me make sure I have the whole A-Rod thing correct. He may hit .300 with 40 HRs and 140 RBIs, and gives 110% on the field, but he is ruining the Yankees and should be gotten rid of because he craves attention and is hyper-sensitive to what people think about him. Meanwhile, Manny, who also may hit ,300 with 40 HRs and 140 RBIs, but will kick the crap out of an old front office guy and jake it on the field half the time – he would be a great asset and should be signed by teams immediately. Ok, got it. Anyone who does not want A-Rod on the Yankees or thinks he is the reason they have not won of late is a complete and utter fool.

  30. Jamal G. says:

    Heh, this is from the NoMass chat:

    [Comment From Ian Kennedy]
    Anyone out there still believe in me?
    I do. I think you’ll be league average or better for the duration of your career, which lasts at least 10 years.
    [Comment From Melky Cabrera]
    Anyone out there still believe in me?
    STFU, Melky.

  31. A.D. says:

    Can’t believe the Yankees DFAed Chase Wright…he’s the second coming of Erik Bedard don’t you know!!!!1!

  32. BillyBall says:

    IAN O’Conner stated today that if the Yankees do not win a World Series in the next 2 years with A-Rod, he will be traded. The Yankees will eat a big chunk of that albatross contract ala Rangers and trade him. This was spoken on the Michael Kay show. I say if the Yankees do not win this year and he slumps again he’s a goner!

    tommielee smith bangs johncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside down says:

    “Look up and compare Manny and A-Rod’s numbers in the postseason”.

    So I did. Here it is;

    Manny in POST SEASON is batting 286
    with a slugging percentage of 550
    28HR’s in 378 AB’s tommielee smith bangs carlos a/k/a/ upside down!

    A-Rod in Post Season is batting 279
    with a slugging percentage of (hold on now) a whopping 483 slugging percentage
    7 HR

    Not the worst but not Manny numbers.

    Now what. Do you want me to guess what color underoos you wear?


    Let’s trade A-Rod for Wright and sign Manny. That’s a better Yankee team!

    • Rick in Boston says:

      And why would the Mets trade Wright? And you also realize that (unless the CBA changed on this) A-Rod has 10/5 rights, meaning that the Yankees can’t trade him without his permission, right? And that more AB’s mean the more likely a player is going to match their average seasonal production, right? Somehow, I doubt it.

  33. [...] Some things are better left unsaid  /  Continuing the Torre story [...]

  34. godfather says:

    Who knew? Joe, forgetting he was made by NYY and not vice versa, joins the ranks of Sammy Gravano and Jose Canseco as primo snitches. As though that putrid TV commercial celebrating his makeover weren’t enough. Alas, another one who has Made It There bites the biggie. It’s about the players, Giuseppe, not you. Verducci is an asshole, too, for his accompaniment. Disgraceful paisans, both. Bite the cannoli, bitches….

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    The relocation consultant is the first person you will come across with. He is salesperson of the moving company you are dealing with. You will be advised by him on all parts of secure and planned moving.

    A survey of all the goods at your house will be done by him and he will give you the feedback on which articles can be carried and which can’t. He will make you aware of the many services the company offers. This survey lets the counselor of the company to get an idea to present the estimate of costs for moving your goods to your new home. Once you decide upon one pricing options out of many and sign an order for the service, the company will start its service.
    Packing and Loading
    In case of packing being done (obviously if you have ordered) by the company the concerned persons will drop in to house in the morning of scheduled day of move or day before it. It depends on how much packing has to be done.

    Driver or van foreman is the next man who will play a role as more that of his professional post. In fact the van foreman is in charge of all the process. Besides driving, they play multifarious role in terms of getting the goods loaded, and carrying them absolutely safe to you new location. Helpers are there to assist him in loading and unloading process.

    Protecting your home from untoward and pinching harms while loading is also the prime responsibility of the van foreman. He makes sure that the floor runners are laid down to save carpets and floors from scratches or anything like that. Railing and doorways are also padded to protect the walls and woodwork from any kind of damage.

    In case you are not able to be there at the time of loading, you must give the charge to responsible person who can ensure things going on smoothly and sign the bill of loading and the list of inventory.

    Cloth pads are wrapped around the furniture to protect it from scratches and dirt. All the items which can get dirty and severe damage are packed properly to avoid any misshapenness. Arrangements are made for protecting even a futile thing like gardening tool.

    Make sure that nothing is left behind once the van is ready with the articles loaded on it.


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