Jan
20

Few mentions of Pudge this winter

By

Looking back at this thread, which is hilarious in hindsight, some out there wanted the Yankees to offer arbitration to Ivan Rodriguez. Over a month and a half has passed since that deadline passed and, as with Bobby Abreu, we’ve heard few rumors of teams interested in Pudge. There’s just not a market for a 37-year-old catcher seeking a large contract.

The only real team I’ve seen him connected with is the Marlins. But landing there would mean a substantial pay cut from his 2008 salary:

Indications, however, are the only way Rodriguez would be a Marlin is if he is willing to play for the league minimum. For an established star like Pudge, that may not be the price he is willing to accept.

The O’s are out for Pudge, as they signed Gregg Zaun to handle duties until Matt Wieters is deemed fit for full-time duty. The Red Sox could use a catcher, but could Pudge catch a knuckleballer? We know Josh Bard can’t.

While Pudge’s destination isn’t known at this time, we do know one thing. If his agent had been able to properly forecast the MLB off-season landscape, he would have accepted an arbitration offer from the Yankees. And that would have been a bad thing — it might have cost them Mark Teixeira.

Categories : Hot Stove League
  • Phil McCracken

    His agent is Scott Boras. Since he rejected arbitration for Varitek, he probably would have done the same for Pudge.

    • Whozat

      Except that it was varitek that wanted to reject arbitration; that was printed in an article today. He felt more comfortable negotiating without a looming deadline, apparently. I don’t think it’s so safe to say that pudge would have told boras not to accept.

      And pudge is done. Molina is better behind the dish, and maybe with the bat too, these days

  • yankeefan91 (rooting for team dominicana)

    i heard earlier in the offseason that minaya was interested

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

    I like how MLB.com calls Pudge “an established star.” He may be established, but his days of being star are long behind him.

    • monkeypants

      I was going to respond that he could still make a heckuva a backup, and certainly a solid starter at C. then I looked at the numbers and I’m not so sure. He really may be cooked.

      • jsbrendog

        he was cooked the last time before he took peds lol

      • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

        Monkey Pants did you watch a game last year? Or the year before?

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Became a free agent at the wrong time.

  • John

    Why we try and sign for like a mil (way above league minimum) because thats all he’s going to get? We know posada is not ready for ST and may or may not be ready for the opener (though he says he would but who knows if he can throw. catch, hit, etc. until he actually does it) and we cant have Molina or younger Molina 2.0 (cervelli) playing a lot. Yes, we have tex but another bat (assuming pudge can hit better) doesnt hurt…im just saying, not that i really want him because he will have to adjust to our pitchers again, so its not worth it (remember our pitchers sucked a lot when he caught)

    • monkeypants

      Presumably Pudge can outhit Molina, but I’m not sure he will outhit him by that much (if Pudge really is winding down). Whose defense is better now, I wonder, Pudge’s or Molina’s? I wouldn’t want to see a repeat the three-catcher roster. So, if they were to sign Pudge, as you suggest, they should release Molina.

      So much depends on Posada’s ability to catch at all next season.

      • John

        well if he’s really cheap it doesnt hurt i guess. I still just hope jorge is healthy and we dont have to go here.

        I wonder if he sign a minor league deal? I doubt it as even the marlins are offering better but that would be great.

        What about Pillitiere (sp?) and anson?

        cant wait for romine/montero…

        • MattG

          No, it can hurt, because the Yankees would need to make room for him on the roster. With Cervelli already on the 40-man, Rodriguez really makes no sense.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

        “Whose defense is better now, I wonder, Pudge’s or Molina’s?”

        Molina’s.

      • Evan in NYC

        I like Molina much more than Pudge. Pudge threw out 37% of runners while Molina threw out 44%. Both bats are below average, but Molina seems to be more in sync with the pitchers than Pudge was last year.

        • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

          I really think Yankee fans undervalue Molina. This guy did wonders with the crap pitching staff he had last year.

  • Manimal

    Pudge> V-Tek, I think the argument could be made for both guys but right now I’d take Ivan. I’m surprised there’s no talks about the sox.

    • Phil McCracken

      I think Boston is looking for a “pitcher’s catcher”. Thats not Pudge based upon the fact that nobody wanted to throw to him last year.

    • http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com iYankees

      Neither player can hit Edwar Ramirez’s weight, so when picking between the two, the Sox would obviously go with who they know over who they don’t know. Varitek would be the easy choice if those were the only 2 choices.

  • AMS223

    random unrelated trade idea….

    Yankees trade 2 of Swisher, Nady, and Matsui and maybe a Veras or other arm (or no arm) it would prob be swish and nady so thats what i use below (i just mentioned matsui in case if they want to retain the japanese market and DH matsui)

    and

    Seattle Trades Ichiro.

    Why this makes sense for us: This gives us a GREAT fielding CF and a leadoff hitter for next year if damon does not return. It opens up a spot in the OF where we could bring back abreu on a 1 year deal or Dunn….or MANNY! Yes we give up 2 nice pieces but you have to look at the trade in terms of what it gives us in the FA class as well. Also, we could open up 2 or 3 spots on the 40 man roster which could help us too.

    Why Seattle does it… This gives them a lot of flexibility as Ichiro is making 17 mill a year (through 2012). Yes that would be expensive to us too but whtever hah. It also fills two holes for them at first base and LF. Nady can play Left while Swish plays 1st. Veras would also give them a good arm at the end of the pen after losing putz.

    Our potential lineups:
    Ichiro CF
    Jeter SS
    Tex 1B/Abreu RF…if abreu tex moves to 5
    Arod 3B
    Dunn RF/Tex 1B/Manny RF see above for why tex would be here
    Posada C/Matsui DH—-Posada there is dunn is signed and matsui there if not
    Matsui DH/Posada—see above
    Cano 2B
    Damon LF —i mean truth is minus the first time through the order 1-9 does really matter that much…and this gives up a lineup where it wouldnt let up or slow down. We would have speed at top and at the bottom and damon would turn that lineup over often.

    • Sweet Dick Willie

      Guess you didn’t pass your posting quiz.

      Two things wrong with this:

      1) It’s off topic, and
      2) It’s stupid.

      Ichiro is 35 years old and is owed $17 mil/yr for the next 4 years. Overpaying for an athlete on the downside of his career is generally not the way to build a championship club. Talk about roster inflexibility!

      • Jay CT

        I love Ichiro. I saw him at the All Star game during warmups snagging line drive shots behind his back without looking and laughing about it, while trying to teach the other guys. Then he hit 5 into the upper deck out of 10 swings. He is quite impressive.

        That said- That is a HELL of a lot to give up with a contract albatros around his neck. 68 million coming to him over the next 4 years. Plus, the Yankees are looking to CUT payroll. Plus, he is getting older, he blocks our top positional prospect. It just doesn’t work on so many levels.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      I’m usually not a stickler for keeping comments on topic, but I am a stickler for outlandish trade proposals that actually hurt the Yankees. Please keep it on topic.

  • MattG

    I just learned this bit of off-topic news, thanks to mlb trade rumors:

    “Sheets…is apparently seeking two years and $18MM or so with a third-year option.”

    • Should be working

      Hes going to be seeking that for quite awhile.

    • mike

      I keep thinking Philly will get in on Sheets because their rotation isn’t really all that scary ( likely behind both atlanta and the mets with Ollie P) and they likely do not need 35 starts or 200 innings from him to keep ahead of the pack.

      I do not know which other team has the $ and the ability to not get crippled by a Sheets blow-up, and the need to beef up their rotation with no obvious fit, and the Phillies keep coming to the front

    • http://evizions.com eVizions

      I would love to take a flier on Sheets. Offer him the 1/10 that we were going to offer Pettitte. Hell, I would do 2/18 in a minute. When was the last time you remember that a guy with legitimate ace stuff was a free agent and looking for a 1 or 2 year deal? Is his shoulder that bad that we can’t risk 1 year and 10M?

      • Should be working

        You would have to imagine that it is that bad if not one team has given him an offer.

  • Jake H

    It’s crazy that so many big time players can’t find jobs right now.

    • A.D.

      It is, in years past someone would have thrown a bad contract to Pudge by now that we could all use as a joke punchline

      • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

        I think right now sanity is finally in style. The crazy part was these guys who were not the cream of the crop getting these wild contracts.

  • Pingback: In search of a second catcher | River Avenue Blues

  • ortforshort

    Now that the Yankees have Teixeira, I recommend sign Pudge for a year.

  • mtt

    Sorry to come in so late, but no matter how good Pudge’s agent is, he could not have gotten Pudge into arbitration since the Yankees never made an offer.
    http://tinyurl.com/982wv6

  • Pingback: Derek Jeter makes 1st cut for U.S. DREAM TEAM… « Zell’s Pinstripe Blog