Feb
11

Open Thread: Early camp roundup

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Pitchers and catchers are like, forty hours away. How awesome is that?

Here’s a recap of today’s action from camp:

Here’s your open thread for the night. The Isles are taking on the Devils in Newark, the Rangers are taking on the Fightin’ Ovechins at home, and the Knicks are out playing that other LA team. Talk about whatever your heart desire, just be nice.

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  1. …and Hoch also noted that Jon Albaladejo looks to have lost about fifteen pounds over the winter.

    Two words: Center. Field.

  2. Thomas says:

    Go UConn!

  3. Hoch: “Duncan is a great reminder that players are always playing for all 30 teams – the best thing the Yankees could do for him is trigger a trade in the spring.”

    I wonder where we could send him and what we could get for him? Can he outhit Hopper/Gomes/Jones and maybe stick with Cincinnati? Why not LA: until they add Manny, it looks like they’re starting Juan Pierre (ugh)… the Mariners just lost out on Abreu because they couldn’t clear salary, maybe Shelly’s a cheap (albeit much less effective) consolation prize?

    I know we’re not going to get anything awesome for him, but maybe we get a younger positional player with a longshot upside play or something.

    …or, double up and give someone like the Mariners or something two players (i.e. Shelley and something extraneous on the 40-man like Giese or Stephen Jackson) to get that lower-level prospect while clearing a roster spot for someone like Nomar or Grudzielanek…

  4. Eric Duncan says:

    Hey guys. As you said, I have been trying out the outfield. Any chance I ever make it to the majors? Whether it be starter or backup.

  5. Kanekoa gets a spring training invite… looks like it’s time to revise that ol’ top 30 prospects list, Mikey-boy, LITTLE TEX IS MOVING UP IN THE WORLD!!!

  6. mustang says:

    “A-Rod is expected to be in camp next week, so hopefully all of this will be behind us in seven or eight days”

    My God if were only that simple.

  7. Thomas says:

    Shit, UConn need to stop turning the ball over. 14 TO in 17 minutes, just horrible.

  8. stringerbell says:

    You guys see deadspin today? Interesting article with Selena Roberts version of the “stalking” incident. The most significant quote:

    “I am going to continue to work on this book,” said Ms. Roberts when asked if she’s got more news coming. “And that’s where I’m going to leave it.”

    “The book is still a work in progress,” said her book editor, Mr. Hirshey. “I assure you she has more drug revelations as well as other news. Not everything that Selena has on A-Rod’s steroid participation has come out yet.”

    http://www.observer.com/2009/m.....-nightmare

    • Jamal G. says:

      It could just be a bunch of hot air. She did say that she didn’t have enough concrete evidence to release the information about ARod’s steroid use outside of the 2003 season. So, you could reasonably expect that the editor is just talking shit, and the only thing that she has yet to release is whatever proof she has that he was taking steroids in the 2001 and 2002 seasons. Remember, she did say that she was surprised he copped to the 2001 and 2002 seasons during the interview.

    • mustang says:

      I guess someone forgot to tell Ms. Roberts that we are going to put this behind us in seven to eight days. I don’t think that time table works for her.
      LOL

    • Mike A. says:

      They’re just trying to sell more books.

      • mustang says:

        I hope thats all that it is , but with A*Rod the fun never seem to stop.

      • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

        They’re not going to have any trouble selling this one.

        • A.D. says:

          Eh, I pretty sure its less intriguing than the Torre book, right now it doesnt have much hype, and we all know A-Rod took roids. If the roids hadn’t been leaked until the book was published, then they’d have something.

          • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

            Have you seen this?

            http://njfrogman.blogspot.com/.....ts-to.html

            Its worth noting that Larry King’s boss (CNN) and Selena Roberts boss (SI) both work for the same company, Time Warner. If you know anything about creating buzz and synergy in media companies, that Larry King question was no accident.

            Whether or not that’s true, Alex has led a . . . . shall we say . . . .very book-worthy personal life. If 2% of his sex life is in the book, it will sell a ton of books, and be a huge distraction for the Yanks this year. If that rumor is true, then he will be a distraction for ever.

            BTW-Its worth noting that Selena Roberts was interviewed yesterday on WFAN and was asked if “there’s anything salacious in the book”. She answered “Its a profile on Alex and how he became the person he is today”.

            • A.D. says:

              Hmm well when you put it that way….are you working for the Time Warner publicity team

              • Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

                They don’t need me, and me posting on a blog won’t sell one extra book. I’m just worried about the Yanks having a GINOURMOUS distraction right in the middle of the season. I’m just hoping it doesn’t derail Alex and/or our season.

  9. A.D. says:

    Duncan potentially playing himself into a utility role.

    Personally I’d like to see Malec try out the outfield to make it as a utility guy

  10. A.D. says:

    Brian Bruney switching to 38

    BUT THATS DAN GIESE’S NUMBER!!!!!11!!!

  11. Jamal G. says:

    Girl A:”… When he picks up a random girl at a bar and invites her to a party, you’re supposed to freak out!”
    Girl B: “I’m not freaking out because in my mind she’s fat.”
    Girl C: “She’s a kickboxing instructor. Her ass looks better than my face.”

    Awesome. I have become a uuuge fan of “How I Met Your Mother” over the past couple weeks.

  12. Jennings: Sent a few text messages back and forth with Eric Duncan (right) this afternoon, primarily to ask about a report that he’s been taking some outfield fly balls down in Tampa.

    “Yeah, been working in the outfield a little,” Duncan said. “I have no idea about playing in the season, just makes sense from both sides for me to play more positions.”

    This year, Eric Duncan. Next year… Derek Jeter.

    Cashman: Hey, Derek… what’s happening.
    Jeter: Whatup, Brian.
    Cashman: Yeeeah… Did you see that Post article about ARod cheating on Madonna with Sarah McLachlan? Crazy shit, huh?
    Jeter: Yeah, that’s wild. ARod’s a crazy dud–
    Cashman: Hey, changing topics, I was talking with Joe, Hal, and Hank, and we were saying that now that we’ve won #27, we should mix things up a bit. Why not try out the outfield this spring, you know, see if it’s fun or not? Whaddya think? Awesome idea, mmmkay?
    Jeter: Well–
    Cashman: SUUUPER. So if you could just go ahead and get into the outfield, that’d be greeeat. I’ll tell Joe you’re on board. Equipment’s already put some outfielders gloves in your locker. I’ll get Zillo on some blurbs for the media questions. Gotta run, Jeets, Thanks a bunch.

    … aaaaaaaaand, SCENE!

  13. Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

    Now that Abreu and Dunn are off the board, you would think the Yanks/Braves would get serious about exploring a deal. Pete A has a trade proposal

    “I consulted the Baseball America Prospect Handbook. How about Nady and $2 million to the Braves for OF Gorkys Hernandez, LHP Jeff Locke and a lesser prospect? I’m just picking names, but I think it makes sense. Hernandez is a good CF prospect but the Braves already have one of those in Jordan Schafer. Locke is a 21-year-old from New Hampshire who had a poor season in low A ball but has velocity and command. Maybe he needs to meet Nardi Contreras.”

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....this-deal/

    If I’m Cash, I make that deal so fast that Nady gets whiplash on his way to the airport. Which is to say it isn’t going to happen. Gorky’s a top 5 guy, and I think you’d be dealing with the bottom 5 of the Braves top 10 prospects.

    Something to throw into the mix, Nady will be a type A, so that can be factored onto the compensation package as well.

  14. Scott of 3 Kids Tickets says:

    UCONN vs SYR
    &
    NC vs the Dukies

    Now that’s a DH!

    Go HUSKIES (and NC..anyone but the Dukies)

    -Scott

  15. Memo says:

    And who is going to punish Bud’s 18 million dollar butt?

    “Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig said Wednesday afternoon that he is “just heartsick” about Alex Rodriguez’s admission of performance-enhancing drug use and would not rule out punishing him or adjusting baseball’s record book.

    When asked in a telephone interview if he would consider suspending Rodriguez, Selig recalled that he “had put a bulletin out” about the illegality of steroid use in 1997, even though MLB had no drug testing at that time. Rodriguez tested positive in 2003, according to Sports Illustrated, and now has admitted to ESPN that he used performance-enhancing drugs from 2001-2003.”

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports.....titialskip

  16. dan daniels says:

    go cuse!

  17. Scott of 3 Kids Tickets says:

    …and Sax could tell you about sucking….him and Knobby…

    -Scott

    This was meant for the “actual” Steve Sax, not the person above…lol

  18. usty says:

    Mixing together Honey Nut Cheerios with Special K just might be the most delicious breakfast cereal (non-super sugared division) ever.

  19. My Jets offseason shopping preferences (now that we have some Brett Favre money back on the cap:

    1.) Nnamdi Asomugha (if he’s not franchised, which is unlikely)
    OR
    1.) Terrell Suggs (if he’s not franchised, which is unlikely)
    OR
    1.) Bart Scott
    OR
    1.) Ray Lewis

    2.) Resign Tony Richardson

    3.) Jim Leonhard

    4.) Byron Leftwich OR… wait for it… Michael Vick

    5.) Bryant McFadden

  20. Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

    Some MLBTR entries on the Yanks-Braves trade stuff

    “The Braves have $6-8MM left to spend, but they’d also like to add an outfielder. Rosenthal describes Nick Swisher, who makes $6.55MM this year, as the Braves’ most likely option. If Atlanta expects the Yankees to pick up any of Swisher’s salary, they’d likely have to part with “higher quality prospects.”

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....raves.html

    “Fallout From Abreu And Dunn Deals

    * The Braves lose leverage. They’ve considered trading for Xavier Nady or Nick Swisher, but with Dunn and Abreu off the board, and Manny out of reach, the Braves might have to give up more in a trade with the Yankees.
    * The Yankees, in turn, benefit from these two deals because they can demand more from the Braves. Peter Abraham thinks the Yankees should hold onto Swisher and Nady.”

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....om-ab.html

    I’m starting to think this might actually happen.

  21. A.D. says:

    Garret Anderson and Ken Griffey Jr. are now the best remaining alternatives to Manny, so they could both benefit from today’s deals

    Imagine going to the fans, well we weren’t going to give into Manny, but don’t worry we got Griffey on a one year deal.

  22. Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

    Some MLBTR entries on the Yanks-Braves trade stuff

    “The Braves have $6-8MM left to spend, but they’d also like to add an outfielder. Rosenthal describes Nick Swisher, who makes $6.55MM this year, as the Braves’ most likely option. If Atlanta expects the Yankees to pick up any of Swisher’s salary, they’d likely have to part with “higher quality prospects.”

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....raves.html

    • Mike R. says:

      I wouldn’t say they’d print anything. The original headline was “Alomar is an inconsiderate AIDS infected prick!”, but they didn’t print that. Sure the reason was a lack of space, but that shows some kind of restraint doesn’t it?

      • Reggie C. says:

        Lets see a confirm on Alomar’s health status before the jokes fly.

        • Reggie C. says:

          my apologies. i just read what i wrote and i didnt get my point across at all …

          Its newsworthy b/c ALomar is a future Hall of Famer , and if the lawsuit is real then this is simply something we should all steer clear of commenting on..

        • Steve H says:

          I obviously hope it’s all false. You have to wonder about his health in a way, he dropped off like almost no player ever has. He literally had his best season ever in 2001 (an all time great for 2b), followed by his worst in 2002. Hopefully it was just the NL/NY transition, and all of this comes out as total BS.

    • usty says:

      Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. He had a GIRLfriend? That’s the bigger news.

  23. Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....ppare.html

    A not too informative Feinsand write up on Montero and Brackman. Some decent quotes from Mark Newman, though.

  24. Januz says:

    I would not trade Swisher or Nady, this team’s bench is not exactly full of all-stars. There is some depth with the pitching in he minor leagues with Brackman, McAllister and Bleich to name a few (With 2 spots guaranteed to be filled up thru 2011 (CC & AJ, the need is not that high). In addition, the position players are not as bad as some make it out to be (Montero, Jackson, Lassiter, Suttle, and Angelini to name a few).

    • Reggie C. says:

      Unless we’re getting back Jordan Schafer … a purported real CF prospect with a higher offensive ceiling than Jackson, then it simply doesn’t behoove the team to trade Nady or Swisher. Now Schafer isn’t Rasmus, but i’m pretty sure he’s still more highly regarded than Jackson.

      Losing Swisher or Nady isn’t going to cost this team a WS in ’09. If we fall short next season it’ll be due to broken down SP and/or failed bounce-back seasons from key guys like Posada and Cano.

  25. Steve H says:

    Submitted not only as the all time classic baseball name, but also for the sponsor by TiricoSuave. Good stuff.

    http://www.baseball-reference......ru01.shtml

  26. Manimal says:

    “I know he’s going through a rough time right now, and I think his apology said it all. He’s disappointed in himself, he made a mistake and we’re all going to move on … I’m just going to open up my arms, give him a big hug, tell him I love him and we’re going to get through this.” -Mark Texiera on Arod
    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=nyy

  27. A.D. says:

    Rosenhaus indicating that Plax, Boldin, and Chad Johnson all could be available. Could be some crazy swap in there.

    • Manimal says:

      I hope the Giants get Boldin and/or Houshmandzadeh. Ochocinco is a joke and no one wants Plax back. We need to draft some LB’s as well but this draft is full of em so I think the front office will take care of business.

  28. Dave says:

    Ben,

    Recover faster? Yes. Stay healthy longer? I am skeptical about that. There is overwhelming evidence to the contrary in fact. Players and anyone who used steroids seem to get hurt earlier in their careers, go on the decline faster and more often because their body starts to break down. I know bonds played until he was older as did clemens but both of them have dealt with their fair share of health problems as well. i can see if you said that roids helps you play better when you are older but I really doubt that it helps you stay healthier as you age, I will try to see what i can find out about that and get back to you but all of the available facts seem to contradict that sentiment. And even if one were to assume that roids helps you stay healthy and these guys health problems came as a result of cycling off them i could certainly buy that but then, what does that have to do with arod? And further, arod was 26, 27 and 28 I believe when he was using on texas. Was he really that likely to get injured on roids or not?

    Finally, arod had over 600 at bats all three seasons on the rangers. I think it is safe to say he did not need the roids to recover faster from any sort of injury during that time to gain an edge as he did not have any. I really think that the roids only helped him marginally if at all as he was the best player in the game in his prime already. he didnt become a monster on texas. He hit a few more homeruns in a right handed power hitter friendly Arlington Park.

    His homerun total was probably more impacted by the park factor than the roids. The only thing I see in his numbers that really do look like they may have been caused by the roids was his 2004 season and the year after he claims he came off them. The stats reflect that notion very well as that was the worst season he had gone through since 1997 after six straight years of sustained excellence he came back down to earth a bit. He actually put up similar numbers last year though so it may have just been his difficult times adjusting to NY and the pressure as well. There is just no solid proof anywhere when looking through his numbers that steroids gave him any sort of help padding his stats.

  29. pete says:

    I’d trade nady for gorkys in a second, but do the braves have anyone legit at SS (prospect-wise)? cuz we don’t…I’d rather have Ajax as our best outfield prospect and have a good SS prospect than two good OF and no SS

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