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Kevin Goldstein's Top 11 Yankees prospects
Lose an arm; gain an opening

The Yanks have announced who will be starting their first four exhibition games next week; allow me to quote PeteAbe:

Wednesday at Toronto: Brett Tomko

Thursday vs. Tampa: Phil Hughes

Friday at Minnesota: Ian Kennedy

Saturday vs. Minnesota: Joba Chamberlain

According the the YES Network’s site, Thursday’s and Saturday’s game will be on TV. So that’s right, in four days we’ll get to see Phil Hughes make a start againt the defending AL Champs, then two days later we’ll see Jobamania. Awesome. Just awesome.

With the exception of Joba, the regular starting rotation is being held back a week. CC Sabathia will make his first spring start on March 6th, which puts him on track to start Opening Day in Baltimore. Joba’s second spring start would come on March 5th, lining him up with the fifth spot in the rotation. No surprise really, but this kinda confirms it.

Anyway, here’s the open thread for the night. Talk about whatever, just be cool about it.

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Kevin Goldstein's Top 11 Yankees prospects
Lose an arm; gain an opening
  • Mike Pop

    Shit, I wanted to watch Tomko pitch.

  • Jasper

    Jeter’s got Hammy problems. Oh no!
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3926360

    Hopefully not too serious

    • Tom Zig

      It says he’ll resume running tomorrow, I take it that it is not serious.

  • GG

    Jesus am I F-ing pumped, how are Brackman and the other young studs going to be used next month? starts?

  • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

    Damn you, UConn’s cable package for not having YES.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Hey guys, miss me?

    And I’d rather everyone that’s going to get hurt to get hurt now and then be healthy for most of the season than the other way around like last year.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      Totally missed you, Rebecca. Can we call you Becca?

      Sorry, that might be the sixer talking. Glad to have you back, sober or not.

    • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

      What’s Spring Training without our “Optimist”?

  • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    Dammit. I’m in school at gametime.

    Btw, check out this fantasy team (7-team, custom scoring, H2H points):

    C Brian McCann
    1B Albert Pujols
    2B Ian Kinsler
    3B Evan Longoria
    SS Stephen Drew
    OF Josh Hamilton
    OF Nate McLouth
    OF Jay Bruce
    UTIL Robinson Cano
    UTIL Troy Tulowitzki
    UTIL J.J. Hardy
    BE Lastings Milledge
    BE Adam LaRoche
    BE Adam Jones
    BE Pat Burrell
    BE Cameron Maybin

    P CC Sabathia
    P Felix Hernandez
    P Joba Chamberlain
    P Yovani Gallardo
    P Jonathan Broxton
    P Matt Cain
    P Joey Devine
    P Chien-Ming Wang
    P Edinson Volquez

    Personally, I think this team is pretty good. Any thoughts on how it may do (or an early read on my 3 keepers for next year)?

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      Your outfield is a possible weak spot, but your infield MORE than makes up for it. McCann-Pujols-Kinsler-Longoria is insane.

      • Mike Pop

        Na, I like his outfield. Bruce, Jones, and Maybin. Love those guys and Bruce is a good fantasy outfielder already in my opinion. Hamilton will probably give you a solid year.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        Amen.

    • pat

      Pretty sweet dude. I’d bet on keeping pooojols, cc and maybe felix or longoria.

      • Mike Pop

        Heres a team I got:

        C-Brian McCann
        1b-Chris Davis
        2b-Robinson Cano
        3b-A-Rod
        SS-JJ Hardy
        OF-Ryan Braun
        OF-Carl Crawford
        OF-Jay Bruce
        UTI-Chipper Jones
        UTI-Adrian Beltre
        UTI-Justin Upton
        Bench spots-Travis Snider, Adam Jones, Nick Swisher, and Yunel Escobar. I need another 2b I think.

        Pitching is weak.
        SP-Joba
        SP-AJ
        SP-Clayton Kershaw
        RP-Broxton
        RP-Kerry Wood
        P-Jair Jurrjens
        P-Mike Gonzalez
        P-Grant Balfour
        Bench-Carlos Zambrano, Scott Baker, Brandon Morrow, Carmona, Lannan, Grienke, and Ducshcherer.

        • Mike Pop

          Meant to reply this to my comment above.
          D’oh!

        • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

          That’s a pretty solid team. Your pitching could be a weak point, but with that offense, you should be alright. My first draft is next Friday night.

          • Mike Pop

            I dealt Miggy, Brian Roberts and Zack Greinke for A-Rod and Carlos Z. I had to get A-Rod, lol.

            • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

              Haha, that’s a pretty solid move.

              • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

                More than that, it’s a steal.

                • Mike Pop

                  Eh, I don’t know. Lost alot of speed with Roberts gone. But the main reason I did it was because my love of A-Rod and I think Chris Davis is going to mash. He’s uber good.

                • Steve H

                  No. It’s a total steal. What you’re losing in 1 category you’re more than making up for in several other. That, and A-Rod’s good for 20 steals himself.

                • Mike Pop

                  Ya, shit your right. I’m the man! I’m a huge sportz nut.

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEVdca9U9LM

            • Steve H

              I would continue to make trades with that person. I would have traded those 3 for just A-Rod in a heartbeat, and you got Z as well?

              • andrew

                If you would’ve traded those 3 for just ARod, I’d like to continue making trades with you
                You’d essentially be trading a late first round pick, a 5th round pick and a 10th round pick to move up 5 draft spots

                • Steve H

                  Whoever gets the best player in a fantasy trade wins. Don’t forget about the replacement players on top of A-Rod. Starting pitching is overrated, Grienke should be nowhere near a 10th round pick, unless it’s a 20 team league.

                • Steve H

                  ESPN has A-Rod ranked as #1 overall. Roberts is ranked #38, Grienke #87, and Tejada #166.

                  Please, let’s trade.

                • andrew

                  I agree that usually whoever gets the best player in a fantasy trade wins, but Cabrera’s stats are only slightly worse ARod’s, and Brian Roberts is easily a top 5 2nd basemen… replacement level in the 2 leagues i am in for losing greinke and roberts would be Iwamura or Rickie Weekes + Jesse Litsch or Jeremy Guthrie… that does not come close to making up for what you gain by getting ARod.
                  With ARod AND Zambrano, yea the trade is a steal, but without him, I’d rather have the group of 3.

                • Steve H

                  Ok, I blame this all on Mike Pop. I thought he meant Miggy Tejada, you thought Cabrera, and know I just don’t know.

                  Damn you Mike Pop!!!

                • andrew

                  Yes. My bad. He probably meant Tejada… I don’t think i’ve ever heard Cabrera called Miggy now that i think about it. Oh well.

        • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

          If I were in your league, I’d say that this just isn’t fair. Your pitching is pretty good, I’d say. I like all of your pitchers except Zambrano, maybe Lannan, and maybe Duscherer. If one of those guys pans out, you’re in good shape.

          • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

            Of those three, at least one will have a good/decent year, and it’ll probably be Zambrano.

    • andrew

      i’ve only done 12 team leagues, so i dont know how stacked this team is compared to the others in the league but it looks pretty solid, maybe a little light on saves though

      I kept adam jones for this year, he rarely came on late last year before hurting his ankle, i think he’s gonna have a very good year

  • Will

    Is it just YES? I’m at school and we obviously don’t get YES, and no slingbox for me. Shit.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    MLB Network’s “30 Teams in 30 Days” is on the Yankees. It’s showing right now.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      I have no MLB Network at home or at school. I only have YES at home and I have to settle for NESN for baseball games. Ugh. Thank fucking christ this is my last semester.

      • Mike Pop

        OH MAN, your missing out!!!!

    • The Evil Empire

      Joba in the pen agian discussion going on

      • The Evil Empire

        again*

      • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

        Now I’m glad I’m not watching.

        • kunaldo

          it’s usually not a good idea to suggest that joba’s being “wasted” in the rotation while flashing a graphic that says he had a 2.76 ERA in 12 starts….effin idiots

  • Mike Pop

    Damn, D-Wade. 50 points but his team didn’t win. Way to be a team player, Dwayne.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Dan Pleasac: “The Boston Red Ros are a vastly improved team.”

    Shut your bitch-ass mouth, Pleasac.

    • Mike Pop

      Joba-team player.

    • K.B.D.

      Their All-DL team will smash anybody else’s out there.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      I’m trying to think of what exactly they improved. Getting Saito is a plus but adding Penny, Smoltz, and Baldelli doesn’t really improve them much. And, any time you’re going into a season w/Jason Bay as your LF instead of Manny, you’re not improved. That’s not a slight on Jason Bay because he mashed in Boston but it’s just the truth.

  • McCaff

    I’m flying down to Tampa on Saturday morning, watching Joba pitch, then flying back to new York Saturday night. Life is good!

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      You’re flying down to watch him record six outs? That’s determination, holmes.

      • McCaff

        Yeah well i fly for free, and i have nothing to do, so im going. I want to go early to ST so i don’t miss the prospects like i did last year when i went towards the end of it.

    • Joey

      Nice, at some point during the season I want to go over for a weekend and watch Brackman, Bleich, Dellin, etc… pitch, we’ll see how it works out (I live in Orlando, so it’s only like a 1.5 hr drive for me).

      I wanted to get ST tickets but all home games were gone in 2 seconds and just about all away games were the same thing. Oh well. Hopefully I’ll be able to make it to the new stadium sometime this season, if not it’ll be the first season in a long time.

  • K.B.D.

    Braves sign Garrett Anderson: http://tinyurl.com/cotkep.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt
      • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

        There goes the Swisher/Nady trade, if one ever existed.

        • Mike Pop

          One could still be moved midseason.

          • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

            Nah, I doubt that. Somebody will get hurt by then and the Yanks don’t do salary dumps.

  • aaron empty

    i know were all sick of the ped thing, and of the “great” peter gamons, but his latest post is really pretty interesting. it features a 40 year old piece from SI talking about PEDs in sports and baseball, check it out:
    http://myespn.go.com/s/convers.....ry/3926544

    • Steve H

      40 year old piece about PED’s? Impossible, A-Rod brought PED’s into the game and ruined the sport forever.

      • andrew

        I heard that ARod invented PED’s

        • Mike Pop

          and made 13 year old Dominican kids inject themselves with them. Rumors were he held them at gunpoint.

          • Steve H

            Rumors? That would mean it hasn’t been proven. It’s a fact, though a little skewed. The 13 year olds were injecting 9 year olds at gunpoint.

            • Mike Pop

              Damnit A-Rod!!!!

    • YankeeScribe

      40 years ago? You mean there was cheating in the era of Hank Aaron and Bob Gibson? Say it ain’t so!

      • Steve H

        And Hall of Famer Jim Rice, who probably only made the HOF because people thought that the steroid era was clouding his stats, when he in fact played in an era when players were using PED’s. Of course, this was well known, except to the writers with the blinders on who figure that if a story is “new”, it will be a bigger story.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    No wonder the Rangers can’t pitch worth a shit, their GM thinks Joba Chamberlain should be in the bullpen.

    • K.B.D.

      Well, Nolan Ryan wants his guys throwing 140-150 pitches a game. In the Texas heat.

      They also threw Vincente Padilla and Kevin Millwood out to the mound to get shelled regularly. To stop the bleeding, they picked up Sidney Ponson.

      I’d say the Rangers franchise might be a bit misguided in their use of pitchers, so I’ll take their ideas with a grain of salt.

      • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

        Yeah, and Nolan isn’t exactly an ideal candidate to be a pitching coach. As a pitcher, on most days he never knew where the ball was going. As great as he was at striking guys out (#1 all time) he was equally horrendous in walking too many. The All Time BB leader, by a LOT. Almost 1,000 more than anyone in history.

        http://www.baseball-reference......reer.shtml

        If someone doesn’t have the 100MPH heater that he did, they probably shouldn’t take too much advice from him.

        • Steve H

          He is so overrated as a pitcher. I got into a huge argument with my boss a while back, I was arguing that Steve Carlton was a significantly better pitcher than Ryan, and he was having none of it. Then baseball-reference won the argument for me, I could slice it up a million different ways to show that Lefty was better.

          • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

            Nolan Ryan is quite possibly the most overrated pitcher in the history of baseball.

            • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

              Nolan is either great or horrible depending on which side of the ledger you look at. If you look at both sides, he was uber-talented, remarkably healthy, and extremely flawed pitched.

              Nolan’s like NYC, he’s got a lot of everything. Good and bad.

    • Steve O.

      That, and the fact that there’s just no talent on that staff.

      • Mike Pop

        They are coming up soon though.

  • andrew

    i’m looking forward to that Yankees vs USA game the most though… hopefully they play their starters for longer than most ST games

  • http://www.blueseatblogs.com Dave

    No love for Howell or Bathgate?

  • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

    The MLB network thing was good until they all revealed they’re B-jobbers.

    • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

      They’re just trying to get noticed. Get people talking about them and their nascent network.

      If they say “The Yanks are doing the right thing and I agree 100%” then nobody notices. When they say “The Yanks are blowing it with this kid” then people pay attention.

  • C. Roy

    ugh…Watched the joba “debate” on mlb network and it drove me nuts. I could not believe not one of them thought that Joba is going to be more valuable in the rotation.

    • C. Roy

      ha bobby abreu “excellent defender”

    • Tom Zig

      “If Joba goes to the bullpen it really strengthens their team.”

      Haha how’s that work?

    • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

      Simple rebuttal, use these three questions.

      What do starting pitchers make?

      What do 8th inning relievers earn?

      Are you trying to argue that every GM and agent in Baseball is stupid?

  • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

    WOW, Abreu is a good rightfielder? I’m not even going to say anything about his phobia of walls, but I will throw a stat out there. He had a UZR/150 of -23.

    • The Evil Empire

      Yeah I was thinking the same thing.
      Do you think Johnny Damon will ever be a “real” yankee? For some reason I always see a red sox player when I look at him.

      Maybe if he wins a WS in the bronx here in 09. Maybe

      • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

        I’ve always seen him as a Athletic… might just be me.

        • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

          lol I had no Idea he was there for just one year.

          • The Evil Empire

            Yeah maybe you should’ve said a royal lol

      • Spaceman.Spiff

        The correct scientific terminology is True Yankee™©®. And Johnny needs to play the game the right way more before I’d consider him that.

      • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

        Do you think Johnny Damon will ever be a “real” yankee? For some reason I always see a red sox player when I look at him.

        Question: Does he play for the Yankees?
        Answer: Yes. He is a real Yankee.

        • andrew

          Blasphemy!

      • Dave M

        Everyone seems to forget he played longer with the Royals then he did witht he Sox.

        • Mike Pop

          Heh, Damon, Dye, and Beltran. Some outfield…to not keep.

  • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

    LOL What rock is this guy living under? Cano had a great season last year?

    • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

      Oooof. That’ll leave a bruise.

  • The Evil Empire

    MLB network = Two thumbs down

    “Robinson Cano had a great year last year”
    HAha

  • Tom Zig

    Robinson Cano! A great season for him last year – MLB Network

    I am guessing they were sarcastic.

    • Tom Zig

      3 comments in the same minute about the same comment on MLB network….wow

  • Pete

    Not only do they all think he should be in the pen, but they don’t even make the only plausible argument for b-jobberism (the irrational fear that jobs will break down). They all agreed that he’d be wasted in that role (that role of course being future ace).

    • 27 this year

      yea the saddest thing is “what if our starter goes 7 innings in a 2-1 game” I want Joba. First of all, of those max five games in a year where that happens, either Mo would pitch two innings or Bruney/Marte/whoever else (Melancon?) they would only fail maybe once. Also, who ever paid over 50 million for a reliever/closer? Starters are more fuckin valuable. The Yanks have a good bullpen with plenty backup but finding a #1 is difficult. Hence, Joba.

      Then again, we should just move Mo to the 8th, that way they can’t say they would have Joba considering Mo is still better than Joba. I think MLB should rewrite the rules to make the game play in just the 8th inning. All the other innings should be simulated.

  • Mike Pop

    I still can’t believe that Baseball Prospectus has the Sox winning 98 games.

    • 27 this year

      I know, last year they had everyone having a good year except Ortiz and Beckett. No way they improve while adding no one.

      • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

        How about subtracting Manny?

        And the fact they signed the all DL club shows you how worried they are about their pitching staff. Beckett started breaking down last year and Dice-K is walking way too many guys to remain successful.

        What makes them think Penny will be healthy enough to be their #5 starter is beyond me. He has a bad shoulder, was horrible for the Dodgers (in the weak NL West) last year and he’s yet to have surgery. Plus, he has a rep for not working all that hard on rehab assignments.

  • Mike Pop

    Dan Pleasac said: “I believe if Joba goes to the bullpen, it really strengthens their team and their right there.”

    Ugh.

    • Mike Pop

      Also, he said that the pen does not have enough depth. I don’t know why I watch these shows.

      • Tom Zig

        While they might be B-jobbers, they aren’t as biased as ESPN. Plus Steve Phillips and Joe Morgan don’t work for MLB Network…not yet at least.

    • Tom Zig

      Haha I said the same thing. Do these people actually believe these statements or are they just trying to create controversy to get viewers?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

    Sierra Nevada Torpedo IPA gets a 7/10 from me. And I’m only typing this because I just finished a sixer. Please take it easy on me if the overnight post is bunk.

  • Mike Pop

    Silence of the Lambs is such a good movie.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      Dammit. Now that you like it I can’t. Fuckin’ Popavero.

      • Mike Pop

        What a jerk.

      • http://www.youtube.com/kevyyankees Kevin G.

        Than you can’t like the Yankees because he does.

        • Mike Pop

          Ya, you stupid jerkface.

  • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

    I think it comes down to who is healthier, Lowell+JD Drew or Jorge+Matsui.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      Which, judging by the opening of camp, is advantage Yanks right now.

      • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

        Absolutely, Jorge was throwing 200 feet and he said he feels about 85%. Thats amazing for someone who had surgery not too long ago.

        JD Drew not so much… His back is still bothering him.

        • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

          Ask Don Mattingly about bad backs. Ended his career at 34 and he stopped being an elite hitter 6 years earlier.

          • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

            Trust me, I know plenty about bad backs lol.

            • Mike Pop

              That’s what she said.

              • Steve H

                nice

              • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

                lol really though, Its the reason I stopped playing baseball as well.

        • andrew

          It’s amazing for somebody who had the surgery in some respects. But you’ve got to understand that this injury is caused by the long term wear and tear, so if it werent feeling good right now, we’d be in big, big trouble, because its not going to feel that much better in 6 months.
          I had the injury in HS, its no fun.

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  • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

    Damn it. Here I am on Sunday night with a shit load of homework AGAIN.

    • Drew

      same here, just fiished ten pages worth of papers..

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  • Mike Pop

    What is the hardest sport to repeat in? Basketball, Baseball, or Football?

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      Championship wise? Recently, it’s obviously been baseball.

      Also, Heath Ledger, ftw.

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  • usty

    I’m pretty sure Al Leiter doesn’t appear as frequently on MLB network due to the aneurysm he was developing from being the only one making logical arguments. It was great, he’d talk and then Reynolds or whoeever would just completely ignore his statements and say something stupid and Al would just get this little twitch and look in his eye like he was going to punch someone in the head.

  • usty

    Gah…I keep getting duplicate post errors.

  • Tom Zig

    Get that nonsense out of here

  • Mike Pop

    Not Ka-Blamo.

  • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    Monsieur, pourquoi est-ce que vous avez affiche ce lien?

    Seriously, what does this have to do with Joba?

  • Tom Zig

    It doesn’t, the more people that click the more his “city” grows. He is using RAB’s popularity for his own advantage, and is misleading people as well.