Nov
26
Ranking the Yanks’ championship teams
ByThree weeks ago ago, the Yanks won the World Series, and the buzz hasn’t worn off. In fact, it won’t for a while. For the Yankees, the team’s 27th World Championship brought out the need to put things in list order in all of us. Dan Rosenheck offered up his list of World Championships with the 2009 club placing a very respectable 12th. This year’s Yanks just missed his Upper Echelon of teams. ESPN ranked this year’s club 10th overall in franchise history. Dayn Perry placed them 10th on a list of the top ten in franchise history. Where do you guys rank ‘em?
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#1 in my heart.
/lame’d
I just threw up a little in my mouth.
Only the 1927, 1932, 1939, 1961 and 1998 WS championship teams won more regular season games. Only the 1998 team won more games combined (season/post-season). Accordingly I’d place the 2009 squad 6th behind the foregoing teams and wouldn’t argue if someone wants to place the 2009 squad 5th ahead of the 1961 squad.
This all sounds about right. I say 2009 is 5th. It gets bonus points for an unbalanced schedule and 3 tier playoff system.
Definitely.
On second thought let me add the following WS teams with a higher in-season winning %: 1923; 1928; 1936; 1937; 1938; 1941; 1953. Looks like 2009 should rank more in the middle of the pack of 27 but having 3 round of post-season series needs to be given more weight when comparing across eras.
3 behind the muderous row and 98
I don’t like the philosophy of Dan Rosenheck. His basic premise is that Pythagorean Record takes out all the luck of the game. Things that really throw off the Pythagorean Record are one run games and walk offs, and blowouts.
I’m not surprised that all but five of the World Series Teams had better records than their pythag predicted. Good pitching both starters and in the bullpen makes 1 run games more often go your way. Potent offenses explode every so often for a blowout, and the Yanks good pitching makes it unlikely for a blowout the other way.
Fundamentally it seems like Rosenheck gave priority to those teams that underperformed according to Pythagorean Record. I wouldn’t say that all those walk off hits, and one run games that Mariano saved lucky.
I wonder if Mo’s cutter could break Ruth’s bat?
No way.
Maybe that’s what will end the world in 2012.
Great stuff!
Ive always felt the 39 and 53 Yankees were the two most underrated Yankees Championship Teams.
Both teams were the last of a stretch of consecutive titles and were not long removed from losing respective superstars, Gehrig and Dimaggio.
As for overrated, I believe YES did a feature on the best Yankees teams of all time and for some odd reason covered both the 77 and 78 Yankees. Both of those teams were vastly overrated in comparison to other Yankees title teams.
Id like to see Prime 9 take a shot at this subject.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
This team ranks 3rd all time….
1. ’98
2. ’27
3. 2009
I think 3 is a little too high, especially with 1939 definitely ahead of this year’s team. 1939 Yankees had a +411 run differential!!!
It’d be a quite matchup to see Ford, Raschi, Lopat, and Reynolds go up against an order like this:
1B. Henrich
2B. Gordon
CF. Dimag
RF. Selkirk
LF. Keller
C. Dickey
3B. Rolfe
SS. Crosetti
Theres a ton of lefty power in that lineup, and a couple of HOF righties.
The 2009 Yankees were behind the 2004, 2007 Red Sox teams.
(I keed.)
Drinking the wine already today?
Going to Brooklyn today, so no. I brought the heavy hitter — Early Times whiskey!
“What the Red Sox did this decade could be said to have been even more of an accomplishment than the late 90s dynasty Yankees considering all the crack I just smoked.”
Oh my God, ESPN actually did say that.
It’s along the lines of:
“The 90 teams of the Yankees were SOOO good that it was boring watching them destroy everyone. The 2004 Red Sox had the greatest historical achievement og going down 3-0 them coming back to win it all. Therefore I think thsoe teams are better than the 90 teams.”
-Howard Bryant
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No love for any of the seventies teams? Any team with Jackson, Munson, Nettles, Gossage, and Pinela, et al, may not be as good as murderers row or the ’98 team, but overated, kind of harsh don’t you think?
Just in comparison to the teams of the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, and 90s.
It’s hard to quibble with the lists compiled by Rosenheck or Perry, and yet I will: the ’78 club wasn’t all that talented. The rotation had Guidry, Figueroa, and some tattered rumors, but its idomitability, its refusal to lose, should push it up a couple of notches.
And how can you have a group of ball teams called “run-of-the-mill champions”? That’s a contradiction in terms.
These pieces are fun, they’re keepers. Thanks, guys.
hard to say since none of us were alive for half of them..
as far as in order of the ones i have seen, not greatest but favorite…
1. 1996
2. 2009
3. 1998
4. 2000
5. 1999