Dec
27

Football Open Thread

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The Giants are duking it out for a playoff spot, and are taking on the Panthers at home at 1pm ET. The J-E-T-S are stuck playing the 14-0 Colts on the road at 4:15pm ET. Good luck with that. Talk gridiron here.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    I have never had the slightest bit of interest in 24.

    • Steve H

      +24

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

        ICWUDT

    • Whozat

      I have never seen an episode of 24, lost, or any American-idol-style talent show,

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

        Woah. You capitalized the W. My world is shaken.

        • Whozat

          It’s just my phone doing autocaps :)

      • Tom Zig

        I watch the first few episodes of American idol when the sucky people are on. I enjoy watching their dreams get crushed.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

          Hehe, a sadistic +1

        • Whozat

          The Germans have a word for it: schadenfreude, which I find hilarious.

          And I do like watching people make fools of themselves, but I also sing, and it actually hurts my head to listen to some of those people (which I have done, on YouTube an stuff, not gonna lie)

  • Steve H

    Tough to say as a Pats fan…………Go Jets!!

    • Crazy Eyes Killa

      Yanks & Pats; how does that work? You must live in CT?

      • http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ

        Oh I’ve seen a couple. But they seem to go with the teams that win the most recently…
        Not that I’m accusing of Steve H of that or anything.

        • Steve H

          I live just outside of Boston. Sox are the only Boston team I don’t like, I just couldn’t stand the Sox (and their fans) from day 1.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

        Depends on where in CT.

    • johnny

      Easy to say as a Bills fan…FUCK THE PATS!

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    It’ll be bittersweet when the Giants lose today. On the one hand, it’ll suck that they’ll miss the playoffs for a first time in a long time; on the other, it’ll be nice not to have to watch these guys embarrass themselves every week.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    Defense Mega Fail.

  • Reggie C.

    Did Nicks actually just drop a floater?

  • Reggie C.

    Panthers are swarming. I need a deep throw.

    • Reggie C.

      Damn. That’s the idea though… Eli’s got to hit Manningham on that route.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      Didn’t help.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    That stat Buck just threw out there is meaningless w/o knowing what the average team does in that situation.

    • Tom Zig

      I don’t really follow football all that much, is Joe Buck a better play-by-play guy for football or baseball?

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

        Eh. He sounds a little more interested, but just as pompous and self-congratulating.

  • danny

    the giants are pathetic.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    R.I.P. 2009 New York Giants Season

  • Hughesus Cristo

    The Giants aren’t good, the bottom of the NFL is just terrible.

    Dallas isn’t good either. Green Bay is borderline.

    • Mike Pop

      Dallas isn’t good either

      Wrong…

      • Mike Pop

        Green Bay is borderline.

        Wrong.

  • Reggie C.

    Brandon Jacobs is running like an old old OLD man.

    • Hughesus Cristo

      The collapse of the Giants’ offensive line is the overlooked story of this season. Seubert, McKenzie and O’Hara are all on their last legs. Diehl was never that good to begin with, but they can’t cover for him anymore with the other three decomposing on the field.

      Jacobs needs initial separation to be effective. That has always been the case. He isn’t Barry Sanders.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    Nail, meet coffin.

  • Reggie C.

    YEP. If the Panthers put up another TD before the half , i’ll admit to GAME OVER.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    So, only 53 more days til P/C, huh?

  • manimal529

    this is just embarrassing.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno
    • Reggie C.

      Hey man. I just started reading TYU. Really good stuff you got there.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

        Thanks; I appreciate it.

  • Hughesus Cristo

    Loving the “Steve Spag-nuolo” chant on Fox

  • Tom Zig

    Tom Coughlin needs to quickly press the reset button before his progress gets saved.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      Haha, well done.

  • Reggie C.

    Giants clearly need to spend their eventual mid-1st round pick on the best available OL player. Who’s good out there?

  • Hughesus Cristo

    Let’s just hope Eli doesn’t die now

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    I can has LT please?

  • Reggie C.

    David Carr must be itching to get into this game. ELI … wtf was that?

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    Today, I watched the Giants game. FML.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    The Giants just doubled their rushing yardage on one play.

  • Jay

    Giants season is over. When does Sunday basketball start on ABC?

  • Crazy Eyes Killa

    Why would a player (I was looking at Jacoby Ellsbury for example) have a really good VORP, and not such a good WAR? Relatively speaking that is, like Ellsbury’s WAR is way lower than Granderson’s, but his VORP is higher

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      VORP doesn’t factor in defense.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    I can has substitutes? There’s no reason for Eli and Bradshaw to be in at this point.

  • Nick

    Wow do the Giants suck.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    Go away, Luke Wilson.

  • Reggie C.

    Is Stewart this good … or the g-men this bad?

  • Tom Zig

    Would this be a good description of today:

    Picture the Giants being awesome and take the opposite.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      Very accurate description.

  • http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ

    To take our minds of the Giants game slaughter, who would you rather have in the 5th starter role?

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200...../#comments

    Jennings would rather have Hughes but personally I disagree. Joba just finished pitching a full season starting so I think he’ll improve and I don’t know what to think of him starting for a full year and then being shifted to the bullpen for an unknown amount of time.

    But whoever isn’t the 5th starter really really should be the 6th starter. Not like last year with Phil in the bullpen while we watched Mitre start.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      All sorts of this.

    • Whozat

      Jennings’ reasoning is based on an incorrect assumption, one we saw disproven in the postseason last year: that moving joba-the-2009-starter to the pen turns him into joba-the-2007-reliever. Joba 2009 threw no harder than Hughes in th pen. If he doesn’t regain that velocity, I consider them equal. If he does, then it should definitely be joba as the 5th starter, though Hughes MUST be used in a way that allows him to move into the rotation in the event of injury or sucking.

      • pete

        agreed. joba is currently better prepared to start next season than hughes is. and neither should be in the bullpen because the difference in Hughes the 6th starter and McAllister the 6th starter is likely to be a lot greater than hughes the primary RH setup man and Robertson the primary RH setup man.

    • Hughesus Cristo

      FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PUT ONE OF THEM IN AAA TO START ALL YEAR

  • Salty Buggah

    Saints FAIL! Missed a game-winning FG. Off to OT. So much failing going on in the NFL today.

    • Salty Buggah

      This is after they allowed a game-tying punt return with 2:30 left to the Bucs.

  • Salty Buggah

    Damnit Ravens. Stop killing yourselves. You gotta beat the Steelers for the Broncos sake!

    They’ve had so many penalties that killed them. 2 brought back TDs. 1 took them out of FG range after Mason dropped a ball in the endzone while being wide-open by 10 yds.

    • Salty Buggah

      Wow. Damn you Ravens. Flacco got sacked, taking them out of FG range while being down 3 with 2:34 left.

      • Salty Buggah

        Aaaand Flacco throws a pick while being hit on 4th down. Just horrible. That should do it, barring a miracle.

        • Salty Buggah

          Ravens major FAIL. Almost sacked Big Ben on 3rd down, but didnt. They got lucky that he threw a pick and the guy who picked it off returned it to midfield. However, they got called for illegal contact and Steelers got the ball back. Game over.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    TB’s kicker booted that shit. Nice kick.

  • Salty Buggah

    Let’s go Broncos. Gotta beat the Eagles today. (For some reason, I’m having doubts but hopefully I’m wrong)

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      The Eagles did lose to the Raiders, so anything is possible.

      Oh. Wait. So did the Broncos.

      ;)

      • Salty Buggah

        I’m still not completely over that loss

  • Salty Buggah

    FUCK YOU ORTON! He completely shits his pants when there is even slight pressure, usually falling down by himself. But this time, he just threw it barely behind him (he wasn’t even hit yet) when no one is there. Almost TD Philly. McDaniels challenged and got it overturned, could’ve gone either way.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      Don’t sugarcoat it, Salty. Tell us how you really feel.

      • Salty Buggah

        What I said in that post doesn’t even show how much I hate Orton when being pressured. Reminds me of Brian Griese. He was the same way. Simply running out of bounds if there is a little pressure.

        • Salty Buggah

          See that! He just fell down by himself again (though he was barely touched it seemed…but he got away and then went to the ground) with one guy near him!

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

            I have Colts/Jets.

          • Salty Buggah

            Actually, not even one person touched him.

  • JMK THE OVERSHARE’s Glenn Beck Complex

    What do you guys see being the bullpen on opening day?

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      Mo
      Marte
      Robertson
      Aceves
      Gaudin
      Logan
      Hughes (you’re asking who will, not who should)

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

        I think Logan’s going to need to make the team out of ST, and I’m not sure he will. Also, don’t forget D-Rob has a reverse platoon split. He’s effectively your 2nd Lefty.

        http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....erId=29172

    • Salty Buggah

      Mo
      K-Rob
      Ace
      Marte
      Melancon
      Gaudin (barring a trade)

      Who else?

      • Salty Buggah

        Oh yea, forgot about Logan. I would say Hughes but I’m not sure.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

          I don’t want Hughes to be in there, but I have a bad feeling he will.

          • Salty Buggah

            I do too. Girardi is going to want him there

            • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

              Hopefully Cash sees it our way and overrules Girardi.

              • Salty Buggah

                Hopefully

              • JMK THE OVERSHARE’s Glenn Beck Complex

                I’ll have really soured on the Javy deal if Girardi is playing his (sometimes) asinine match-ups with Hughes throwing to two batters three times a week.
                I pray Hughes is in SWB or at the very least, in a long reliever/swingman role.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

                  Word; if Hughes is going to be in the bullpen, I hope it’s in a multiple inning role, perhaps even piggy-backing Joba.

                • http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ

                  But most likely it’s the almighty eighth inning role….
                  I’m hoping it’s AAA too so it’s a given he’s the 6th starter. I just had a real bad feeling Phil or Joba will be in the bullpen for the entire year despite and injuries…

                • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

                  I can’t see him getting regular innings in that role. Normally you don’t need a multiple-innings reliever on the days CC, AJ, Andy and Javy start and I don’t think Joba will have as many short starts as last season.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

                  I hope not. =(

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

                  Yeah, you’re probably right CBLL. Let’s just cross our fingers for Hughes as the sixth starter.

                • ColoYank

                  The trouble is: Joba pitched a full year (regular season, anyway) as a starter; the Yanks went 20-11 in his starts, so he has to be considered the incumbent. They got full-duty years out of Burnett and Pettitte in ’09. What do you think are the chances of that repeating in 2010? They have to get 90-95 starts out of the combination of Burnett, Pettitte, Joba, and Hughes.

                  That’s the way I think about it.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

                  I don’t think there’s any trouble with Joba having pitched a full season. He should be the fifth starter going into ’10.

                • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

                  I could see the Yankees needing Hughes to step in for an injured starter, probably AJ, Andy or Joba. That makes it all the more important to have him stretched out in AAA and not pitching short relief.

                • danny

                  i just hope they don’t stray from the thought that joba and hughes are both STARTERS.

                • ColoYank

                  Agreed, Matt.

                  I was trying to address the (to me) unlikely idea that Joba would start the year in the bullpen. And I agree with CBLL that I’d like Hughes ready and available to start, but I also think it will be very tough to go into 2010 with Hughes in Scranton. I just don’t think they would do that. It’s something the Yankee management get paid the big bucks to deal with.

                • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

                  Keeping Hughes in Scranton will be very hard, because it weakens the big-league team to not have one of your TOP 8 pitchers on the team.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

                  Keeping Hughes in Scranton will be very hard, because it weakens the big-league team to not have one of your TOP 8 pitchers on the team.

                  But is the step up from a Marte/Robertson set-up combo to Hughes really that big?

                • ColoYank

                  IDK. I think the theme we’re trying to hit is that the Yanks need to find a way to keep Hughes ready for the rotation. It seems like there would have to be other roles for him in the bullpen than teh 8th.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

                  My point is that the step up to Hughes from those guys is not big at all and the Yankees would be more than fine w/them as their SU guys.

                • ColoYank

                  ‘Kay. I won’t argue because I agree with your point, down to the personnel of Marte and Robertson.

  • Charlie

    The Giants are duking it out for a playoff spot got shit on

  • Salty Buggah

    Brandon Stokley got interfered with on 3rd down. He tried to appeal but instead got ejected and got a 15 yd unsportsmanlike penalty. We were already missing Eddie Royal today. And one of the backups just got badly hurt. Broncos D is committing a lot of penalties, with 3 from the secondary already with 2 mins left in the 1st. They’re trying to limit Desean Jackson but he is still getting catches and Eagles offense is just steam-rolling over the them. They got lucky once with a fumble in the redzone though.

    Broncos are self-destructing, though I didnt expect a win today.

    /rant over

    • Salty Buggah

      Total yards: 135 Eagles -9 Broncos
      First downs: 9-0
      Score: 10-0

      Only Marshall (great), Gaffney (meh), and Brandon Lloyd (ugh) left for Broncos.

      Uh-Oh

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    Come on, Donald Brown.

    /not rooting for either team, just rooting for the UConn player.

    • JMK THE OVERSHARE’s Glenn Beck Complex

      It’s hard to trust anyone named “Donald.”

      Just sayin’.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

        Dude’s really short.

  • danny

    everything has worked out for the jets, everyone who had to loose lost. too bad they are playing the Colts! haha

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      everything has worked out for the jets, everyone who had to loose lose lost. too bad they are playing the Colts! haha

      /pet peeve fixed

      • danny

        woops. i fail, just like the giants. :(

      • danny

        woops. i fail, just like the giants. :(

        • Tom Zig

          you posted twice, so you double suck

  • JMK THE OVERSHARE’s Glenn Beck Complex

    The Jets defense is pretty nasty, but boy, they look overmatched on offense and always seem to collapse in the red zone and in the 4th quarter.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

    Now I know what my life has been missing all these years.

    The Slap Chop.

    • Steve H
      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

        You fucking rule.

    • Tom Zig

      Don’t ever let a hooker bite your tongue.

  • Reggie C.

    BRAD SMITH , FTW !

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      That was very unexpected.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    The perfect word for today’s Giants game: abortion.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

      What a way (for them) to close the building. Ugh.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    Holy crap. What just happened?

    • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

      Caldwell put in another QB to see if anyone noticed.

      They did.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno
      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

        Painter is straight up helpless.

        • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

          Yeah, and the pass protection around him has disappeared. He’s basically being fed to the lions so Manning can avoid a possibly injury.

  • Reggie C.

    JETS ARE GONNA STEAL THIS ONE!!

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

      Or have it handed to them by the backups.

      Either way, fine by me.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    I hope WVU destroys FSU in Bowden’s last game.

  • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

    I feel like Leslie Nielsen just took over this game for the Colts.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

      Funny you mention that. I could have sworn he yelled out “I LOVE IT!” just before he got sacked, but no one came to help.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    I don’t hate the Jets or the Mets as they generally do not impede the progress of the teams I root for, but for some reason, I generally dislike the Jets more than I dislike the Mets. Odd.

  • Salty Buggah

    Broncos TD. Then Eagles fumble on kickoff. Broncos TD again. Now, broncos only down 27-24. I don’t trust the defense though so we need more luck.

    • Salty Buggah

      Now 2 sacks and Broncos get ball back with good field position to start the 4th!

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

        Aw shit.

  • Salty Buggah

    If the Broncos lose (hopefully not) and the Jets win (hopefully not…sorry Jets fans in here), we’ll have 5 teams at 8-7 vying for 2 WC spots.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

    Question-Who’s your #5 hitter in the Yankee lineup?

    The easy answer is Posada, but I (and many others) think he’s due for a serious decline this year. Jorge will get the job out of ST, but who’s your #5 if he’s struggling?

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      Posada, Granderson, Cano in that order.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

        That’s mine. Obviously it will actually be whoever is hottest at the time, but just going on profile I do Posada, Grandy, then Cano.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

          Word.

    • http://kierstenschmidt.com Kiersten

      Matt Holliday.

  • Reggie C.

    Who feels worse right now? Eli or Peyton?

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      Eli; Peyton’s season isn’t over after today.

  • Dela G

    hoy shit this is fucking awesome!!

    GOOOOOO GANG GREEN!

  • Salty Buggah

    Fuck you Colts!

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    Game, blouses.

    • Salty Buggah

      They’re going all Manny Ramirez vs. Mariano 2008…except this is worse

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    Two WR screens in a row? Really?

  • Steve H

    Don Banks not a believer in the Broncos.

    That leaves the Eagles, which beat Denver on Sunday for their sixth win in a row, improving to 11-4.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....ef=writers

  • ColoYank

    I know it’s mostly a football thread – sorry. But give me your over/under for Melancon in 2010 with the Yanks: games pitched: 38. Games finished: 10.

    • Steve H

      Oveur/Unger

      • ColoYank

        Captain Oveur/Felix Unger?

        • Steve H

          Captain Oveur/Flight navigator Unger