Olney: Yanks working hard to land a pitcher tonight

December 21, 2009 by Michael Axisa

Update (10:12pm): Mark Feinsand says they’re close to a deal, but it’s not a salary dump. Yay, no Lowe!

Update (9:51pm): Kenny Rosenthal echoes Olney’s report, adding that it is in fact a trade.

Update (9:50pm): Ken Davidoff hears the Yanks have (are in?) “two or three” serious trade discussions for a starter, though none for Harang.

8:50pm: Via Buster Olney, the Yankees are “working very hard tonight on deal for starting pitcher.” Tonight being the key word. Earlier today we heard the team was looking to add a starter before New Year’s, but that seemed rather arbitrary. Olney’s wording leads you to believe the team is in the final stages of negotiations at this moment.

So … any guesses? Olney mentions they were in on Aaron Harang last year, but that’s not a small contract.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ

I’m guessing Sheets. I’m hoping Dushcherer though it wouldn’t be the end of the world with Sheets.
- scooter
  
  With the rumored timetables for each guy, and the Crasnick report that Duchscherer has 3 offers on the table, that’s my bet, too
  
  It COULD be a deal, as in ‘trade’
  
  I doubt it’s Zambrano.
  
  Lowe seems way too pricey – and Swisher for Lowe would only work if the Yankees had Holliday in the bag (and so much for the budget)
  - http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/e6omir.gif Omg!Zombies!
    
    Lowe for Swisher only works if they add Heyward to it.
http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

/crosses fingers for Sheets or J-Dukes.
Mr.Jigginz

I believe MLB Trade Rumors reported earlier in the week that Duscherer was rumored to be near a decision…
Greg

Duke of Hurl
- LI Kevin
  
  No good.
  Sounds like he barfs a lot.
chriskeo

Mike, I am confused, does this mean that they are trying to trade for a pitcher, or sign one, or doesn’t imply one specifically.
- http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
  
  I have no idea. I changed the wording in my post to leave it more open ended. At first, I thought it was a trade, but I can see otherwise.
  - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
    
    I’m thinking trade, here’s the quote
    
    “Yankees working very hard tonight on deal for starting pitcher. Remember that they came close to deal for Aaron Harang in summer”
    
    ‘Deal’ is used to refer to what’s going on tonight, as well as Harang from last year. I’ll assume that Onley uses ‘deal’ for trades and ‘signing’ for FAs
John ny

I’m going off the radar…no sheets/ducsherer. Someone big
- http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
  
  Felix Hernandez or else Cashman!
pat

Hmm if it has to be tonight it could be Cash trying to steal a good pitcher from someone before the rival GM can change his mind.

That being said I still have no idea.
Jack

Roger Clemens
- http://www.facebook.com/TaintStick Taintstick
  
  Oh my goodness gracious
  - jsbrendog
    
    will he be in steinbrenner’s bawx?
  - SteveD Fla
    
    thats very funny
Mike Pop

Jeez. Who knows.
Johan Iz My Brohan

I believe it is Justin Duchscherer, since he is close to a decision, and the Yankees are close to signing somebody.

I like this better than Ben Sheets, so I hope this happens.
KDB

They’re getting IPK back.
- jsbrendog
  
  then trading him and melky for king felix
  - KDB
    
    That in a nutshell is the plan.
  - anon
    
    :fist pump:
V

Cashman loves to give the Yankee fans big presents for the Holidays. Why should this year be any different? Please, no Harang though.
- http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
  
  Why no Harang?
  - http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
    
    He’s not…very…good…?
    - frits
      
      periphs. edumacate yourself.
      
      he’s not a #1, but as a #4 starter he would be solid. 3.95 FIP last yr.
      
      that said, the contract is a tad pricey.
      - pat
        
        Tad pricy and the NL Central was the worst offensive division in MLB last year.
      - http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
        
        Yeah, I was way too lazy to actually look up his periphs.
        
        It’s worth nothing, though, that his tRA+ (stat corner version) has been 88 and 98 the past two years.
        
        I’d rather gamble on Sheets @ $12MM than trade for Harang.
    - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
      
      I seem to remember Joe P doing a piece last year saying he was mishandled by Dusty Baker (shock!) and was a good bounce back candidate. He detailed a stretch where he was overused, and his numbers were bad afterward.
      - http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
        
        Right, but that instance of misuse by Dusty was in 2008 (when Dusty brought him in for a few relief innings in an extra-inning game), so the bounceback related to that misuse should have been in 2009. He did have a better season in 2009, I’m just saying the 2008 misuse Joe pointed out wouldn’t lead us to believe a 2010 bounceback might be in the cards.
        
        http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
        
        Gotcha.
        
        http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
        
        (I know that because I had Harang in fantasy that season, I’m not just some weird Aaron Harang encyclopedia.)
  - V
    
    If its Harang then so be it but I HOPE it’s either Sheets or the Duke.
http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

He mentioned Harang, but I think he was just taking a swipe at a name.

BTW-Mike, kudos on that piece you did this afternoon. I know it’s impossible to nail down definitively, but you did a good job of going wherever the numbers led, despite having a preconceived notion going in.
- whozat
  
  …actually, mike did a back of the envelope calculation that he specifically mentioned did not take into account a number of important variables, including (but not limited to) the quality of opposing batters. Which is probably the single most important variable to account for in this case.
  
  So…really, we still don’t know very much at all.
  - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
    
    …actually, I just said that.
http://leutbneot.wordpress.com sam

The way the post was worded, it sounded more like a trade than a FA signing to me. We might do both. I like Duchscherer, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Cash traded for another guy, too. Sheets wants $12M, which is insane, and if that doesn’t come down, there’s no way Cash gets him.
Mike Pop

Could he be trading for another Aceves type? A guy that can be a swingman.
- Jack
  
  Isn’t that what Gaudin is for?
- Johan Iz My Brohan
  
  That would seem logical, especially if they want to get the most out of Hughes and give him as many starts as possible.
Johan Iz My Brohan

It better not be: Harang, Arroyo, Lowe, or Zambrano.

I read a trade proposal for Lowe or Zambrano (forgot which one) that included Melky and Joba. I swear the Yankees mlb board is the worst place to talk about the Yankees, next to LoHud.
- Zack
  
  +1
  
  You just missed a Montero for Harang proposal on MLBTR
http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

Please no:

Lowe
Harang
Zambrano
Pinero
Garland
Gloves

Can someone enlighten me as to why the Yankees would chose Duchscherer over Sheets? Duchscherer has had less than 30 starts in his career, and he’s 30. Sheets is an established ace.
- http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
  
  Salary and wanting to keep Hughes and Chamberlain in the rotation w/o hindrance.
- http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
  
  He’ll be cheaper. Yanks are near the 200 M mark, I don’t see them spending 10 M+ but that’s just me.
- jsbrendog
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm4TG56KGZ4
ledavidisrael

This fucked up the rest of my night. Im going to spend the rest of hit hitting refresh on twitter! Thanks Olney!
- Mike Pop
  
  +1
Phil McCracken

Maybe Igawa is being called up.
- Zanath
  
  Thread=over
http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

How long did the Redskins have possession in the first quarter? 30 seconds?
- http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering
  
  …
  
  That’s what I get for having multiple tabs open.
  - Mike Pop
    
    /points and laughs
- scooter
  
  If the Giants lose tonight, the season is pretty much over. It’s a long-shot even WITH a win.
  
  If that doesn’t inspire them, I’m not sure what would – maybe Dick Jauron as new DC.
YankCrank

For all of you saying you want Harang in a Reds salary dump but believe Cash doesn’t want to pay $12 million for Sheets, Harang is due to make $12.5 next year.

Either direction means a good bump in the payroll.
- http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
  
  … Nobody has said that.
Mark

If it is Harang would the Reds eat any of that contract?
- YankCrank
  
  Depends on if we wanted to give up anything.
http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

8:07pm: Could this be related to what David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution wrote in the comments section of his blog earlier this evening?

“Got a call from a NY writer today wanting to know if I’d heard anything heating up between Yankees and Braves…. Apparently Yankees have hinted at doing “something big” soon. Don’t know if that means pitching”.

Hard to imagine the Yankees will go another round with Javier Vazquez, but could this mean Derek Lowe? Like Harang, the Yankees could be among the few teams able to take on Lowe’s three-year, $45MM deal.
- http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
  
  I hate to say this (because I don’t like Lowe) but Lowe makes sense.
  -Braves are desperate to get rid of him
  -Lowe was quoted saying “he would never have signed there” if he was going to be traded a year later
  -The Braves CANT bring him back, so they’ll eat salary
  -Yanks went after Lowe last year as a FA, so they’re already familiar with him. Had AJ not signed, they would have signed him next.
  
  It all adds up.
  - http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
    
    Too much money and too many years. The Braves would need to kick in about $10M a year to make it even worth considering.
    
    Lowe threw 16.1 fewer innings in 2009 than he did in 2008, yet allowed 59 (!) more baserunners.
    - toad
      
      Yup.
  - http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
    
    Except for performance. This ain’t the NL. It’s been awhile since he’s been in the AL East and that didn’t end well.
    - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
      
      Right, which is why I don’t like him. Cash might view him as a replacement for Wang as a ground ball machine/inning eater type. At 37 in the AL East, I just have major doubts on how effective he’ll be.
  - whozat
    
    except the three-year, big money deal. I don’t know that Atlanta could eat enough cash to make that palatable, and I also don’t know that I think Lowe is a good bet to be any better than Joba or Hughes over the duration of that deal.
- http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
  
  Hmm.. Maybe Mclouth is involved. He’s a great little playa.
  
  /Francesa’d
  - http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/e6omir.gif Omg!Zombies!
    
    Hues + Jaba + Montero + the Brooklyn Bridge for McClouth
Mike Pop

I don’t think Cashman would take on Lowe and the 45 million that is left on his deal unless he got some solid minor league chips with it. Javier Vazquez I could see but he might cost too much in terms of trade bait.
- http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
  
  They’ll eat salary. He was awful last year and has made comments that make it hard to bring him back.
http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew

Hmmm.. If it’s a trade I wonder if Swish is involved.
- http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
  
  Damn, stole the words right out of my mouth. Wren inquired on Swish last year.
- http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
  
  I hope that isn’t the case. Trading Swisher, especially for a big contract starter, is a bad move in a few different ways.
  - http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
    
    I know what you mean but Swish carries a ton of trade value. He’s an on base machine, he hits for power and he’s not over paid. A lot of teams would love to have him.
    - Mike Pop
      
      Exactly why it’s a bad move for the Yankees in a few different ways. ;)
    - AndrewYF
      
      Right, so why waste his value on an overpaid starter that a team is looking to dump?
      
      Swisher isn’t going anywhere.
      - http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
        
        Haha. Exactly. Because I totally said we should get an overpaid starter that a team is looking to dump.
        
        AndrewYF
        
        Matt said: “Trading Swisher, especially for a big contract starter, is a bad move in a few different ways.”
        
        You replied: “I know what you mean but Swish carries a ton of trade value.”
        
        That ‘but’ means that you would not be so sure about not trading Swisher for a big contract starter.
        
        If you would like to take back your comment and say you misread Matt’s statement, you may do so now. I’m sure we will all accept your apology.
        
        http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
        
        First off, “big” does not translate “bad” or “overpaid.”
        
        The main point Matt was getting at is, trading Swisher would be a made move in several different ways. Just because he said “especially a big contract starter” doesn’t mean that was the only way that trading Swish would be a bad move.
        
        I voiced why trading Swish would be a good move.
        
        http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
        
        Sorry, *bad move. Not “made move.”
    - http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
      
      So the Yankees should be interested in giving him up for a bad contract?
      - http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
        
        Again, where did I say trade him for a bad contract?
    - scooter
      
      How do you trade Swisher without signing Holliday?
      
      And how do you stay within budget and sign Holliday? (Back-load the contract?)
    - Zack
      
      Problem is, his value is greater than Lowe, Harang, Arroyo, [enter crappy pitcher name here]
Infamous Richards

How bout them giants
- http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
  
  Hoe bout that open thread
Crazy Eyes Killa

Wow ESPN is actually breaking something for a change, instead of writing “sources:……..” and stealing someone else’s report
Crazy Eyes Killa

Harang was way too hittable last year and gives up too many dingers, sure hope its not him
http://www.facebook.com/TaintStick Taintstick

With Cashmoney as GM, rumors of a trade for a starting pitcher most likely means Matt Holliday will be our LF next year.
- Johan Iz My Brohan
  
  I liek drugz 2 d00d, mai beh we can lit wun up togeder sum tyme?
Eric

I think a Melky or Gardner for Lowe deal could be made if the Braves ate about 15 – 20 million dollars of the contract, and i think the Braves would make that deal to shed salary…..It would work for both teams.
http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

If Cash trades away Swish, will Matt ever forgive him?
- http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
  
  Depends.
  - http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
    
    #28 = All forgiven, no?
  - Mike Pop
    
    Tommy Hanson and Jordan Schafer for Swisher. Book it.
    - http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
      
      Okay, that works.
    - JMK THE OVERSHARE’s Glenn Beck Complex
      
      Jason Heyward or we say no.
    - Johan Iz My Brohan
      
      Tommy Hanson and ~~Jordan Schafer~~ Jason Heyward for Swisher. Book it.
      - ledavidisrael
        
        Tommy Hanson Jason Heyward Javy Vazquez for Swisher Melky Aceves
        lol
  - JMK THE OVERSHARE’s Glenn Beck Complex
    
    What would be an acceptable trade with Swish involved? One that includes some players the Yanks have been linked to.
    - http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
      
      So Lowe, Harang, Arroyo, etc.? None, IMO.
      - JMK THE OVERSHARE’s Glenn Beck Complex
        
        Javy Vasquez (won’t happen but whatevs)?
        
        http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
        
        Vasquez, maybe, yeah. That’d be the best.
        
        Mike Pop
        
        V-A-Z-Q-U-E-Z
        
        /tsjc’d
        
        http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
        
        C-L-O-W-N
        
        /Pinstripe Destiny’d
Goosemania

I have a bad feeling that this trade will include Swisher and Atlanta. That trade would be excellent if we were getting Jair Jurrjens but thats doubtful. Im nervous.
- http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
  
  I’m confident in Cash. I can’t remember the last time he made a trade that made me say “damn, he overpaid.”
  - jsbrendog
    
    but marte sucks and nady is injured and tabata is awesome and did ytou see wat ohlendorf and karstenbs did for pitts?!?!11?!11
    
    \ig’nant’d
Crazy Eyes Killa

This is probably nothing. If there were something I bet either Fox Sports or SI would be on it.
Mark

If he traded Swisher would Damon be back in play?
- http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
  
  Only if he can play RF.
  - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
    
    or CF, and move Grandy to RF.
    - http://www.teamnerdrage.com dr mrs the yankee
      
      Granderson has a terrible arm, Damon-esque.
John R

Check on the latest post on MLBTradeRumors.com. Says Yanks are working with Atlanta on a trade.
- http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
  
  No, no it doesn’t, actually.
- http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
  
  Actually, it doesn’t say that at all. The writer is just speculating, like the rest of us.
- Mike bk
  
  no, it says an atlanta reporters says they might be talking to atlanta, but never says they actually are.
Mark

I thought Granderson CF, Damon LF, and Melky RF, but who knows just throwing it out there.
- http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
  
  That would just be useless.
yankees76

Jeez, not sure Lowe is the answer in his age 37 season. (He’ll be 37 on June 1.)

Lowe has been the better pitcher, and has been successful (and unsuccessful) in the AL East.

I’m not sure whether I want Harang or Lowe less.

Can’t we just sign Sheets and/or Duke?
V

I do not care if the Braves kicked in 20 million. I would not trade Swisher for Lowe. Please stop the insanity……..Unless the Yanks intend to sign Holliday. Budget? What budget?
Michael Kay

What in the name of Marty Janzen?! Come on Olney, don’t Page 6 us here, GIVE US NAMES!
- http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
  
  Aaron Harang…?
  - Michael Kay
    
    Its just phrased so weird, if they were working on a deal for Harang wouldn’t he just say “Yankees working on a deal with The Reds for Harang”?
    - http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
      
      Oh I thought you meant names as in likely candidates since we have no idea who they are after.
      - Michael Kay
        
        I hope its just Sheets Or The Douche signing.
  - scooter
    
    According to Ken Davidoff’s latest tweet, it’s not Harang:
    http://twitter.com/KenDavidoff/status/6915110128
    
    Two or three trade talks – hmmm
    Lowe, or the return of Javy
    Zambrano
    
    Or… something huge? (Josh Johnson anyone?)
Gio

Three way deal where we get Vazquez and Juan Rivera from Angels. Then we’ll have both players we traded to get Javy back in ’03-’04.
- http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
  
  Can they get Randy Choate from Tampa?
- Johan Iz My Brohan
  
  The angels got raped this offseason…. Lackey, Figgins, Guerrero, Oliver, anyone else?
- steve (different one)
  
  that would be hilarious.
JMK THE OVERSHARE’s Glenn Beck Complex

Gardner for Shaeffer and Lowe? As much as I’d like to see Brett Gardner dropped into a cauldron of scalding hot semen, ultimately succumbing to terrible burns in Atlanta, I wouldn’t want to grab Lowe EVEN with Shaeffer unless Atlanta basically eats his contract.
- Mike Pop
  
  Lol.
  
  Gardner to ATL doesn’t make too much sense IMO.
  - JMK THE OVERSHARE’s Glenn Beck Complex
    
    I was going for the lulz and at the same time putting limits on my extreme desire to see Brett Gardner be traded.
- pat
  
  Gardner for Heyward + Lowe.
  - Mike Pop
    
    O’Brien said ‘something big’.
    
    Montero and Heyward swap, oh noes!
http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Mr. Yankee’s Alter Ego

OK, here’s my deal:

Braves get Nick Swisher, Austin Jackson and Ian Kennedy

Yanks get Derek Lowe, Mike Gonzalez and Rafael Soriano
- http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
  
  Deal.
- Mike Pop
  
  I laughed.
- http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
  
  ietc
NY

Lowe would provide a good innings eater in case Andy or AJ go down, so I wouldnt have too much of a problem if its for him. If it’s including Swisher though – does it mean Cash is also targeting Holliday? Hmmmm….
- http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
  
  The problem is that Lowe isn’t paid like an innings eater.
- Gio
  
  I don’t understand the notion of an ‘innings eater.’ I mean, I could eat innings, too, but would the Yankees want me to?
  - NY
    
    You missed the “good” part. Lowe might not be a stud, but he is more reliable than Joba, Hughes, or Sheets.
    - Gio
      
      Maybe in the NL East.
      - Zack
        
        or NL West
      - NY
        
        You probably throw like a girl…
http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew

Suddenly the seemingly cold stove heats up.. I wonder if this is all bullshit.

Cash rarely let’s anyone know what he’s thinking and what he’s doing, this situation shouldn’t be much different.
- http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
  
  I don’t think it’s BS, since Cash was quoted the other day about getting something done by New Years. Not like that’s some hard deadline, but implying he’s had some talks and thinks there’s a deal to be made, where both parties are pretty close.
  - Mike Pop
    
    Na, this is real. Rosenthal and DAvidoff are in on it now too.
Johan Iz My Brohan

Marlins/Braves/Yankees

Marlins give: JJ, Stanton
Marlins get: Igawa

Braves give: JJ, Heyward
Braves get: Edwar

Yankees give: Igawa, Edwar
Yankees get: JJ, JJ, Stanton, Heyward.

Heyward, Montero, Stanton makes me sooooo wet
- http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
  
  I traded Wang and Nady for Stanton in MLB ’09.
Big B

My guess – BWebb from Arizona.
- Mike Pop
  
  Not a bad guess. But don’t see it. They traded for E-Jax to make a run at the division this year with a top three of Haren – Webb – Jackson.
- steve (different one)
  
  i can’t see it, but i like the idea.
Louis

id say probably Lowe and maybe Haraang, whoever it is, id prefer they didnt have to give up any mega prospects, namely Jesus Montero. I dont think theyll have to though, cause all the pitchers theyre targeting are high contract pitchers who wuld be more of a signing than a trade, but if they actually are pulling off “something big”, like is being implied, than id prefer they… um… didnt give up Montero? And i think its ironic that Lowe is a possibility because last year it was considered almost an impossibility that the Yanks sign Lowe, Sabathia, and Burnett, but now there on the verge of doing just that
- Zack
  
  Yankees shouldnt give up anyone for those crappy pitchers and their contracts
Mike Pop

Via Davidoff:

http://twitter.com/KenDavidoff/status/6915110128
- Gio
  
  Amen to that.
- Big B
  
  Thank goodness – let’s hope he’s right that it’s not Harang. I’m uberanxious to know!
- yankees76
  
  Best news of the evening.
- http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
  
  Sweet.
  
  But now we need 2-3 names, instead of one.
  -Lowe
  -?
  -??
- http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
  
  So that would eliminate Sheets/Dusch.
  
  I wonder what the real deal is.
- V
  
  No Harang? Music to my ears.
- http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
  
  Thank Mo. You just made my night, Pop.
  - Mike Pop
    
    TWSS!
    - http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
      
      Haha
    - Jack
      
      http://www.dolland.net/lovelin.....amnlie.mp3
  - LI Kevin
    
    That’s what Michelle Phillips said.
    - LI Kevin
      
      *Mackenzie
wi-Fi Guy

Im going way off topic than everyone else ROY OSWALT !!!
- Big B
  
  That would be a dark horse! Not a bad guess.
- http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
  
  Now there’s an interesting angle…
- Free Mike Vick
  
  well played sir…well played.
- http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
  
  He talked shit about Al. He’s on my shit list.
  - Mike Pop
    
    +1
    
    You talk ish about Alex and you can just get out.
    - wi-Fi Guy
      
      Never knew this woah forget that he can stay on the astros
- Zack
  
  Houston never trades their core players. They always think they have a chance, and by adding small pieces like Lyon for 15m they think it makes them better.
yankees76

We’ll know soon enough. Wish it were someone with decent potential, though. Neither Harang nor Lowe are going to be “innings eaters” if they aren’t good enough to pitch in the AL East (in Lowe’s case, “anymore”).
http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

I’m not going to bother speculating on what might be going on, but I’ll say this… If they trade Jesus Montero, I’ll be disappointed. I know that if they traded him and got back a young superstar it’d probably be a good move, but unless we’re talking Felix or someone like that, I don’t want to hear Montero’s name attached to any rumored or consummated deal.
- http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
  
  +1
  - Mike Pop
    
    Agreed.
    
    I wouldn’t even think Felix would be available now anyway since they dealt for Cliff Lee.
    
    /waits for 10:01 update that Yankees have traded for Felix Hernandez
- pat
  
  The way Cash has operated the past few years do you think he’d trade Montero for crap? I’m 100% positive we would be very happy with whatever he got back.
http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

Guys, check out the updates to the original post.
- V
  
  C’mon Rosenthal you little weasel, do your job!!!
  I love the HOT STOVE.
http://sportsshowlive.blogspot.com/ Joey H

I called a Swisher for Javy swap earlier in the week.
- Zanath
  
  I don’t think Javy will ever be back here. Though I’ve been wrong before.
  - http://sportsshowlive.blogspot.com/ Joey H
    
    He’s matured. And lets remember that at this point, all they need is a good 3/4 guy.
http://kierstenschmidt.com Kiersten

It’s Lester.
- scooter
  
  They’re throwing in Willie Tyler too:
  http://mokellyreport.files.wor.....ester1.jpg
  - http://kierstenschmidt.com Kiersten
    
    Yeah that’s like 20 years before my time.
wi-Fi Guy

http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal

Speculations of a trade =O
D-Roc

josh johnson is coming to the bronx
Alex B

I know this is real far fetched, but how about Duck from the buccos?? Young, and has shown he can pitch even in the death trap of a team in Pittsburgh….
- Alex B
  
  *DUKE
Big B

I hope they don’t give up the farm no matter who it may be. Do you think the Cubs are trying to do a salary dump with Zambrano? Just a guess.
- Zack
  
  18m 4th starter? no thanks
JMK THE OVERSHARE’s Glenn Beck Complex

Josh Johnson anyone?
- wi-Fi Guy
  
  That would be AMAZING
- Zack
  
  No, because you’d see tons of reports of multiple teams after him. Plus they already turned down Feliz and Smoak earlier in the offseason.
  - Zack
    
    I meant no i dont think it’s him, not no i dont want him
    - Jake H
      
      That Feliz and Smoak for him was debunked by multiple people.
- Alex B
  
  i agree that would be incredible, but i dont see the fish giving him up
http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

Sigh…

A trade for a starter–that isn’t some young stud–would really be at worst a big step back for the ’10 team and at best a side-step. Hurting (or, stupidly stopping completely) the development of Hughes or Chamberlain as starters would be disappointing.
- scooter
  
  If it’s Oswalt or Josh Johnson, either Joba or Hughes are part of a (big) package going the other way
  
  (and I’ve just put ‘Johnson’ and ‘package’ in the same sentence)
  - http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
    
    (and I’ve just put ‘Johnson’ and ‘package’ in the same sentence)
    
    http://www.hiyoooo.com/
- http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
  
  I hear you, I’m feeling uneasy about this right now, too. Let’s wait to see what’s actually going down, though. In Cash We Trust.
  - Evil Empire
    
    Cash knows best.
http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

Fuck, the suspense is killing me. I need names, dammit.
- Evil Empire
  
  Barry Zito
  - http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering
    
    My dream trade is Zito for Wells straight up.
- Mike Pop
  
  Watch it be something ridiculous.
  
  Jamie Moyer.
  - V
    
    Jamie Moyer for bullpen coach maybe.
  - http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
    
    Cole Hamels.
    - Zanath
      
      Comeeeee onnnnnnnn Cole.
      - pat
        
        Who are you?
        
        (Said in the most nasal/whiny/girlie way possible.)
        
        Mike Pop
        
        Damn you pat!
        
        pat
        
        Bwahahaha
        
        http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
        
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXnnM218SPc
      - Mike Pop
        
        Who are you?
  - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
    
    I really doubt that. We have depth, what we need is a real #2 so we can push the inconsistent AJ Burnett down a peg.
Free Mike Vick

How can no one know who the pitchers are??? lol
- Mr.Jigginz
  
  Cash=NINJA.
- http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Theo Epstien
  
  YEAH! GET ME TEH NAMES SO I CAN STARTZ TEH BIDDING!!!
Johan Iz My Brohan

I hate the fact that it’s a trade, I’d much rather sign J-Duch, or maybe it’s Z-Duke… which would be better than Lowe, Harang, or Zambrano.
Mike Pop

I’m worried this might involve giving up Montero AND Hughes or Joba.
- http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
  
  If it’s for Felix or Johnson, I’d be okay. Disappointed…but okay.
  - Zanath
    
    I really can’t see Seattle trading Felix. They are clearly in contention for the AL West in ’10. Their rotation right now is great with Lee and Felix. Can’t see why they’d want to give an arm like Felix up in this situation.
  - scooter
    
    Seattle put themselves in position to win the AL West with a rotation led by King Felix and Lee – and spent cash to get Figgins. Why would the Mariners then trade the best pitcher in baseball?
    
    Josh Johnson? I would be too excited to be disappointed
    - toad
      
      Seattle put themselves in position to win the AL West with a rotation led by King Felix and Lee – and spent cash to get Figgins. Why would the Mariners then trade the best pitcher in baseball?
      
      They wouldn’t.
- http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
  
  That would be a blockbuster.
- Gio
  
  Why? They better be geting Josh Johnson or Lincecum if that’s the case. And we all know neither of those are happening.
Mark

That is why Cash is the best, everyone knows Cash is in trade discussions, but no one has any idea what players.
http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

How is it possible that Jon Heyman hasn’t broke the story yet?
- Mike Pop
  
  Seriously. He must be asleep.
  - V
    
    If Heyman does not know then it does not involve a Boras client.
    - V
      
      D00d, wtf? This was NOT me.
      - V
        
        I did not know that this name was taken.
    - V
      
      Kindly choose another screen name. Thanks!
      - V
        
        Maybe I am the original V and you are indeed the imposter.
    - http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
      
      You need to change your handle, that one’s already accounted for.
      - V Squared
        
        Fixed/
- Mr.Jigginz
  
  The deal must not involve a Boras client:BURN.
  - http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
    
    http://buuurn.com/
    - Mr.Jigginz
      
      h/t
    - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
      
      God, I love that.
- http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
  
  Maybe because this might actually be true.
http://sportsshowlive.blogspot.com/ Joey H

Carlos Zambrano? I heard that this morning.
- Mike Pop
  
  Cashman is too smart for that.
  - http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
    
    +that
wi-Fi Guy

The mets are giving up its Johan Santana !
- wi-Fi Guy
  
  Lets name all the tops pitchers and say their teams are giving upp i just hope theirs a team giving upp yesss
JM

What’s the problem with giving names, Olney?
Army vet

If it’s Derek Lowe – would you guys hate Cashman?
- http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
  
  I think we’d be pretty peeved.
- http://sportsshowlive.blogspot.com/ Joey H
  
  On first thought, yes. But Lowe is coming in to be a 3/4 guy not a #2 or 1. However, that’s a high price tag.
  - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
    
    Who’s our #2, Burnett? Too inconsistent. AJ’s a really good #3, but a middling #2.
    - Mike Pop
      
      When AJ is on, he’s one of the best pitchers in the game. Sure, it’d be nice to have a better pitcher in the #2 slot, but that’s what we’re hoping Joba can do.
      - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
        
        I agree, that’s why I really like Sheets. From the group of him, Joba and Hughes one of them will show up and/or perform well next year. They all have the ability, but expecting all 3 to be good is unreasonable.
    - Hughesus Cristo
      
      Remember when the Phillies won the WS in 2009? That sucked.
      - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
        
        That’s fair, but it’s also fair to say the Red Sox rotation is significantly better than ours right now.
- cjc
  
  well since it would be a salary dump the package wouldn’t be huge and he wouldn’t have to be a top of the rotation guy so I would be ok with it
- whozat
  
  Yep. It’d block up a rotation slot with a declining player for several years, spend money that I think could be better used on other players, and cost prospects.
- Reggie C.
  
  atlanta’s definitely eating salary.
  
  if its Lowe, we’re not taking on all that money.
Free Mike Vick

LOL @ no one having a clue who the pitchers are. haha
- Mike Pop
  
  It is pretty funny.
- http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
  
  What a clusterf*ck, huh.
- Zanath
  
  I hear they’re trading for Jesse Orosco.
Zack

2009 OPS+

Derek Lowe: 88
Joba Chamberlain: 90

Again tell me why we need Lowe? When only 1 of those 2 players is going to get better with age.
- http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
  
  And pitchers don’t even hit in the AL.
  
  http://www.hiyoooo.com/
  - http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
    
    Actually, this is probably a more appropriate end to my comment:
    
    http://sadtrombone.com
  - Zack
    
    Ah shit. Yeah ERA+
JobaTheHeat62

it wont be Lowe…that goes against everything Cashman has been saying about the budget and offseason moves. he wont do something stupid, at least i hope not. god i hate the waiting
ultimate913

My Mo. PLEASE don’t let it be Lowe.
http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew

Hmm, if no one knows what team and what player, maybe they don’t know what position either? Maybe we shouldn’t assume its for a starter.

..eh, who am I kidding, it has got to be a starter.
- VO
  
  It’s almost definitely a starter. That’s the one thing that all the reports have in common. I don’t think it’s going to be anyone like Harang or Lowe. Cashman has been sticking to his budget, I don’t see them eating any major salary.
  - VO
    
    I wrote this before the update.
BklynJT

Man, i was hoping we could go into the season we Hughes, Joba, and Montero. would be pretty disappointed if one of them is traded.
KayGee

Peavy anyyone? Kenny loves getting raped by the cash man
- http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
  
  Melky and Nova. Do it Cash!
SteveA

Brian Bannister perhaps?
Mike Pop

Feinsand says it’s not a salary dump.
- Mike Pop
  
  Good to hear in a way but it means that the Yankees are probably giving up something of value.
- Zanath
  
  The plot thickens!
- Johan Iz My Brohan
  
  Cashman, I know where you live, if you trade Montero, I will hunt you down.
Comrade Al

Jurrjens?
- Reggie C.
  
  or Kenshin Kawakami?
- http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
  
  Jesus Montero + Austin Romine for Junichi Tazawa!
Free Mike Vick

Why do i get the feeling i’m going to be slightly disappointed when i hear who it is?
http://twitter.com/PerminioNeto Permínio Neto

Ok, fine, it’s not Harang. Now, please, tell me it’s not Lowe.
- Zanath
  
  According to the last update, it won’t be a salary dump. So it’s probably not Lowe.
V Squared

Please no.
JobaTheHeat62

new update…no more Lowe speculation…now im really interested in this move..its not a salary dump which means it might be a pretty significant trade. wow this better go down tonight..i wont be able to sleep
- Reggie C.
  
  I’d be shocked if we don’t get a name tonight. Everybody’s awake and looking for the name. Its gonna leak within the hour. its gotta…right?
http://www.buffalosportsdaily.com Pat Moran

After watching RAW tonight, I wonder how J. Damon ever did an interview without embarassing himself.. Worst guest host EVER, dont bring him back Yanks just on that alone!
- Mike Pop
  
  Come on man.
  
  the guy has a stuttering problem, he’s done okay in his post game interviews considering his condition.
  - http://www.buffalosportsdaily.com Pat Moran
    
    I was just joking.. I LOVE J. Damon would love him back again.. But he really is a terrible RAW host, I have no idea what possessed him to do this.
http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew

Re: most recent update

WOOT!! I’m getting ancy here.
steve (different one)

this is insane. every single detail of every trade has been leaked for the last year, and no one even knows what team they are talking to?

this has got to be huge, no?

no one is protecting a Brian Bannister trade secret with their life, right?
- Doug
  
  just be careful what you wish for. you know who we’re dealing in a “huge” trade, right?
- Evil Empire
  
  Its probably a trade to get Jeff Marquez back.
sk

Josh Johnson?
danny

please no Zambrano.
scooter

According to Mark Feinsand, NOT a salary dump (so not Harang, Lowe or Zambrano):
http://twitter.com/BloggingBom.....6915912068

If that’s the case, it’s something big (Oswalt, Johnson)
- Reggie C.
  
  Is Oswalt still a big deal? He’s 32 years old and the peripherals are declining.
- Head Scratcher
  
  If it’s J. Johnson, we have more than replaced the void of dick jokes in the Yankeeverse.
  
  In all seriousness, what would Florida ask for (and turn down) in return? I’m thinking primarily Montero + Joba/Phil + lower class prospect. Hopefully that won’t come to be.
http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/e6omir.gif Omg!Zombies!

Man I parked my ass in front of my puter and forgot about the Giants game.

I feel like a fat kid with cake
http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

Harang
Lowe

OK, we’ve narrowed it down a bit. Only 288 pitchers to go.
- http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
  
  Sheets
  Dusch
  - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
    
    Gotcha. Make that 286.
    - http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
      
      Also, if it’s not a salary dump.
      
      ~~Zambrano~~???
  - http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
    
    ~~All Other Free Agents~~
    
    …for now?
Ben

If it’s something big I’ll take a guess and say its either Josh Johnson, Matt Cain or Roy Oswalt. Doubt its Zambrano and it better not be Derek Lowe.

Although a Melky-Gorzelanny swap could happen…but that doesnt fit in with the report of Cashman wanting to do something “big”.
- Alex S
  
  i would love me some matt cain
  - Reggie C.
    
    I didnt exactly call it, but i did posit a Cain for Montero trade several months ago. It gave several of our noteworthy posters pause before rejecting it. If its Cain … we’re likely losing Montero.
    - Alex S
      
      not saying i would make that trade…..especially if Montero is involved. But i have always been a Cain fan
      - Chazzy
        
        Montero for Cain doesn’t seem like a good fit… NL team with no DH and a block at C (Posey) … absolutely no experience at 1b.
        
        Aside from that i’d love to see Cain here. ALL ABOARD THE GRAVY TRAIN.
V Squared

This is going to be EPIC !!!!
danny

DO NOT TRADE MONTERO.

/rant finished.
- http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
  
  Cash knows what he’s doing.
  
  ..If only I knew…
  - danny
    
    i hope so.
BklynJT

My bet is that it is Johnson, the dude fits into the budget.
VO

I would assume that either Melky, or Gardner is in this deal from all of the recent reports saying that teams have been interested. I also think that Cashman isn’t teasing us and it will be someone of interest.
Nick

any chance it’s Josh Johnson?
- Mike Pop
  
  Very possible.
  - whozat
    
    Not really, given the package the Marlins already turned down.
    - Jack
      
      Are we sure that was ever really on the table?
    - Mike Pop
      
      Who’s to say Cash isn’t offering a ‘better’ deal mainly to counter Boston’s big pickups.
      
      Unlikely, but very possible.
Camilo Gerardo

wth…

watch it is going to be a Holliday signing, smoke and mirrors
Charlie

holy shit this is suspenseful. and i’m calling it, it is Felix Hernandez
- Doug
  
  after they just dealt for lee and are now favorites in the division…unlikely
  - Charlie
    
    i know, i know, but i’m feelin it
pat

Josh Johnson + Maybin for Hughes+ Montero?
- Teix is the Man
  
  Sign me up!
  - Teix is the Man
    
    Actually, nevermind, if it’s JOhnson and Stanton then fine, but HIGHLEY unlikely.
    - http://twitter.com/PerminioNeto Permínio Neto
      
      That would be freaking awesome!
- http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
  
  I will be the happiest person alive AND the saddest at the same time.
- http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
  
  That would be interesting.
  - Matt Imbrogno
    
    /handle change’d
- SamVa
  
  in regards to Maybin,
  incredibly nice guy.. we chatted for like 10 mins two years ago at spring training.. he was so psyched at the time because he had just hit that homer off of Clemens at the time the season before. I would love to have him in the organization. He also hit 2 home runs that spring training game. Yeah I know we aren’t going to get him, but I have a soft spot.
  - Matt Imbrogno
    
    I was at the Clemens game. Since Maybin and I are both 1987 babies, it made me feel like I’d accomplished very little.
ultimate913

I’m calling it. It’s Cliff Lee. Yes. His mind. It is blown…….again.
- Zanath
  
  It’s Roy Halladay.
- http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
  
  I wanted to finish my career in ~~Philly~~ NY.
SamVa

okay, since everyone else is calling it
i’m “calling” Grienke…
I like to go as realistic as possible.
I mean the royals wanted melk or gardy..
that’s a fair swap.
KayGee

GIVE ME PEAVY
- Tom Zig
  
  NO!
DGeezy

for the sake of throwing out a name that hasnt been mentioned, i wonder if the yankees would consider/are considering reacquiring ted lilly
- Mike bk
  
  ted lilly would classify as a salary dump
  - http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski
    
    I don’t think so. He’s making $12 mil, and given his last few years he’s probably worth close to that.
    - KayGee
      
      and had shoulder surgery and probably will start the season on the DL
      - DGeezy
        
        good point, i forgot about that.
slater

guys – Florida turned down Smoak and Feliz for Josh Johnson. That means they’re not taking Joba / Phil and Montero.
- Teix is the Man
  
  You know this how?
  - slater
    
    because i know how to use the internet / read?
    
    http://www.sportingnews.com/ml.....ak-dangled
    - Teix is the Man
      
      I meant how do you know that they wouldn’t take Joba and Montero?
    - Teix is the Man
      
      You stay classy..
  - whozat
    
    It was reported earlier this offseason.
- http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
  
  Oh damn I forgot, you’re right. Unless it’s Joba, Hughes, Montero and Romine or something…
Gio

Each of these little Twitter-tidbits keep eliminating possibilities: who’s left???
Free Mike Vick

I’m feeling JJ.
Alex C

I am going to take a guess and say Bonderman. Maybe Lilly??
- http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew
  
  Wouldn’t Bonderman be a bit of a salary dump?
  - Zanath
    
    I forgot that guy existed.
  - Free Mike Vick
    
    i bit?? he’s due 12.5 Mill.
    
    thats a no doubt salary dump.
MAtt

Teddy Lilz, this year will be a Yankee homecoming
JMK THE OVERSHARE’s Glenn Beck Complex

Would anyone do Cain or Josh Johnson for Montero+Joba?
- Crazy Eyes Killa
  
  Not Cain, Johnson yes.
- Teix is the Man
  
  Nah
- Evil Empire
  
  BOTH?
  
  No. One or the other? Sure. I think some other pieces on both sides would have to be involved.
- danny
  
  yes, but it would make me sad
mike n.

jonathan sanchez?
whozat

Given that it’s not a salary dump, this is either going to be a much lower-level move than people are talking about, or it’s going to involve Montero and one of Hughes or Joba.

I’m really not sure I understand the motivation for either :-/
- Matt Imbrogno
  
  That.
- Crazy Eyes Killa
  
  true
Jake H

I wonder if it’s for Ted Lilly.
- Crazy Eyes Killa
  
  I rather have him than Big Z, and the Cubs prob. feel the same way
http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

Can Adrian Gonzalez pitch?
- SamVa
  
  we have Nick Swisher.
  - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
    
    Maybe not for much longer. . . .
Reggie C.

Outside the box: JOE BLANTON.

pls dont kill me when i’m right.
- Mike bk
  
  classifies as a salary dump
- Gio
  
  We already have a Blanton. His name is Chad Gaudin.
  - Reggie C.
    
    yep. that’s my fear too. blanton isn’t much of an upgrade in terms of stuff from gaudin. but look at the innings logged. blanton is a guaranteed 33 start guy.
    
    i hope i’m wrong … but i got a sick feeling.
  - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
    
    and Sergio Mitre.
- Evil Empire
  
  I could see that, actually. Just some mid-level trade, nothing epic.
- whozat
  
  I hope not. That’d be an 80’s Yankees move, trading a young player who could probably perform similarly for an Established Veteran who really only costs more and provides no better production.
Gio

I’m guessing the trade is for Kyle Farnsworth.

Just kidding, but I wouldn’t be shocked if this were a minor move and we’ve all been jocked.
Randy A.

I’m preparing to be underwhelmed by this deal.
- Matt Imbrogno
  
  Yeah, I think we should all take this route.
VO

I’m thinking Lilly
http://dinosaursneverexisted.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/melky.jpg Drew

My sister’s cousin’s brother’s nephew’s father’s wife’s daughter is related to Josh Johnson! She says it’s a done deal!

/totally credible source’d
- Matt Imbrogno
  
  I’m your father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate.
SamVa

What if it’s just someone who started a rumor, like Cash is just like.. “let’s see how riled up we can get the media…” hahahaha I know that would be awful, but if I was a GM i think I would do it once, just to mess with the media for all of the shit they print.
http://www.facebook.com/TaintStick Taintstick

I think it will be a B-lister…Wandy Rodriguez, Chris Young, Jorge de la Rosa, etc
- http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
  
  Wandy’s no B-lister, he’s legit.
  - http://www.facebook.com/TaintStick Taintstick
    
    I mean B-lister in the sense that it’s not going to be Felix or Josh Johnson.
- Mister Delaware
  
  I don’t think Wandy and Young are on the same list.
- Matt Imbrogno
  
  Oo, Wandy would be nice. I wonder what his price would be…
Rockdog

David Wells
Charlie

needless to say, i will not sleep until i know the mystery pitcher
- http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
  
  Imagine if it’s a real minor move. I’m trying to get my hopes down since I made them way too high.
http://www.myspace.com/rayzayas Ray Fuego

Michael VICK!!
ledavidisrael

Injuryexpert is saying Zambrano
- Gio
  
  No way.
  - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
    
    We know they were talking to the Cubs, but Cash said the $ was too high. Maybe it came down some.
    
    Melky+a pitcher for the big Z?
    - Mike bk
      
      Z has to count as a salary dump
    - Matt Imbrogno
      
      I’d hope not. I really don’t want Zambrano anywhere near the Yankees. He’s not worth sacrificing another year of development of Hughes/Chamberlain.
- whozat
  
  god I hope not. If that deal ISN’T a salary dump, it’s even worse than if it is.
JobaTheHeat62

this is offtopic but wow i wish hakeem nicks would score so i could be in the fantasy superbowl
- Doug
  
  he’s hurt
  - JobaTheHeat62
    
    wow that sucks…im gona lose by like 5 points…i got tynes too…FG fest?
- Yankeegirl49
  
  I need 2 more TDs from Smith
  - Alan
    
    I only need one more point from him. I actually traded Brandon Marshall for Smith.
- Jack
  
  http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ove-21542/
Johan Iz My Brohan

Why do the Red Sox sign Lackey, then everyone assumes they will trade Clay Buccholz for Adrian Gonzalez, yet… they can’t decide who the hell this trade is be for?
- http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
  
  NESN made up the pipe dream of Adrian Gonzalez to the Sox and spread it everywhere. Thankfully there’s nothing like that over here so…we have no freakin idea who this guy is.
Teix is the Man

No other team will accept our shitty prospects because Texas’ are better.
-Slater’d
http://www.myspace.com/rayzayas Ray Fuego

They are trading for Zack Greinke. You heard it here.
- SamVa
  
  “SamVa says:
  December 21st, 2009 at 10:23 pm
  okay, since everyone else is calling it
  i’m “calling” Grienke…”
  
  nope. they heard it there
  - http://www.myspace.com/rayzayas Ray Fuego
    
    I meant as in here on RAB
Teix is the Man

No other team will accept our shitty prospects because Texas’ are better.
-Slater’d
- whozat
  
  No one said that, but Smoak is ALSO an elite bat, and Feliz is just as elite as a Joba/Hughes and he has more years of team control.
  
  it doesn’t add up.
  - Sleepy Carl
    
    I don’t think that rumor was ever confirmed. I just don’t see how they turned it down if it where true.
D. Pasqua

Unconfirmed- It’s Zambrano
- pat
  
  stfu
- Zack
  
  source?
http://www.buffalosportsdaily.com Pat Moran

I take back everything I said about Dadmon after he just made out with Mae Young.. He’s my hero again.

And I dont think its more than a #4 starter we’re talking bout here.
- Johan Iz My Brohan
  
  EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, I thought she was dead.
- pat
  
  Isn’t Johnny married?
  - Zack
    
    So?
    
    /ARod’d
    /Tiger’d
    /et all athletes
Alan

Justin Verlander ? might as well thing BIG !
- Nady Nation
  
  /mryankee’d
  - http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
    
    OH SHIT YOU SAID HIS NAME NOW HE’S GONNA COME.
    
    /TSJC’d
For Lack of a More Creative Name… Alex

This is more suspenseful than Game 2 of the ALDS!! (Not really, but I am going insane.) I really want to keep Joba, Hughes, and Montero, but Cash knows his shit.
joemomma

its timmy lincecum =)

on a more serious note. its probably a 4 or 5 guy from a low payroll team, or it can be 2-3 guy from a medium payroll team
Teix is the Man

I think Texas has better prospects, so nobody will trade for our shitty ones
-Slater’d
- slater
  
  you really are clueless.
  - Teix is the Man
    
    ?
- whozat
  
  Just because YOU keep saying it doesn’t mean that anyone else is saying this.
KayGee

Verlander?
http://Greg Greg P

Possibly Gil Mesche (sp)?
Matt Imbrogno

IT’S BEEN A WHOLE 24 MINUTES WITHOUT AN UPDATE!! GAAAAH!!
Free Mike Vick

JON HEYMAN WOKE UP!
- http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
  
  What did he say?
  - Free Mike Vick
    
    same as everyone else…nothing new.
    
    not Harang…not Z.
  - Johan Iz My Brohan
    
    #yanks in talks for starting pitcher. doesnt appear to be harang. maybe not zambrano either (tho they talked to #cubs)
  - Matt Imbrogno
    
    #yanks in talks for starting pitcher. doesnt appear to be harang. maybe not zambrano either (tho they talked to #cubs)
Teix is the Man

Joba and Montero will Not land an ace
-Slater’d
- slater
  
  if you can show me where i said that, i’d love to read it.
  
  you’re embarrassing yourself at this point.
  - Teix is the Man
    
    Whatevs
- http://threequarters.cementhorizon.com/archives/kool%20aid%20man.bmp The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
  
  Making the same comment 4 times in one thread: /Teix is the Man’d
  
  Good grief, man. No need to be so sensitive.
Gio

Mey Mike – can we get a spillover thread?
- Teix is the Man
  
  This
Will

How about this:

The Giants were supposedly very hot after Nick Johnson, so maybe after Damon came back with his reduced rate, Cashman called Sabean to see if maybe they could flip him? If so, I’d say a fair return would be Jonathan Sanchez. Another alternative would be Swisher for Sanchez, which I don’t think I’d like. Wishful thinking has me hoping for Matt Cain.
danny

zambrano gets paid $18 mil!?!? WTF, please stay away Cash.
Matt Imbrogno

This is either going to be something organization-changing or incredibly minor.
Reggie C.

If nothing materializes tonight … I dont think i’ll be able to sleep.

Pending Yankees trade + Nicks injury + Avatar = insomnia
Mo

I’m going to say Nolasco.
Doug

pick 6 baby
BrianM

My wild stab in the dark will be a deal with the Cubs for Lilly with Melky and prospects going the other way.
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