Olney: Yanks working hard to land a pitcher tonight
ByUpdate (10:12pm): Mark Feinsand says they’re close to a deal, but it’s not a salary dump. Yay, no Lowe!
Update (9:51pm): Kenny Rosenthal echoes Olney’s report, adding that it is in fact a trade.
Update (9:50pm): Ken Davidoff hears the Yanks have (are in?) “two or three” serious trade discussions for a starter, though none for Harang.
8:50pm: Via Buster Olney, the Yankees are “working very hard tonight on deal for starting pitcher.” Tonight being the key word. Earlier today we heard the team was looking to add a starter before New Year’s, but that seemed rather arbitrary. Olney’s wording leads you to believe the team is in the final stages of negotiations at this moment.
So … any guesses? Olney mentions they were in on Aaron Harang last year, but that’s not a small contract.
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I’m guessing Sheets. I’m hoping Dushcherer though it wouldn’t be the end of the world with Sheets.
With the rumored timetables for each guy, and the Crasnick report that Duchscherer has 3 offers on the table, that’s my bet, too
It COULD be a deal, as in ‘trade’
I doubt it’s Zambrano.
Lowe seems way too pricey – and Swisher for Lowe would only work if the Yankees had Holliday in the bag (and so much for the budget)
Lowe for Swisher only works if they add Heyward to it.
/crosses fingers for Sheets or J-Dukes.
I believe MLB Trade Rumors reported earlier in the week that Duscherer was rumored to be near a decision…
Duke of Hurl
No good.
Sounds like he barfs a lot.
Mike, I am confused, does this mean that they are trying to trade for a pitcher, or sign one, or doesn’t imply one specifically.
I have no idea. I changed the wording in my post to leave it more open ended. At first, I thought it was a trade, but I can see otherwise.
I’m thinking trade, here’s the quote
“Yankees working very hard tonight on deal for starting pitcher. Remember that they came close to deal for Aaron Harang in summer”
‘Deal’ is used to refer to what’s going on tonight, as well as Harang from last year. I’ll assume that Onley uses ‘deal’ for trades and ‘signing’ for FAs
I’m going off the radar…no sheets/ducsherer. Someone big
Felix Hernandez or else Cashman!
Hmm if it has to be tonight it could be Cash trying to steal a good pitcher from someone before the rival GM can change his mind.
That being said I still have no idea.
Roger Clemens
Oh my goodness gracious
will he be in steinbrenner’s bawx?
thats very funny
Jeez. Who knows.
I believe it is Justin Duchscherer, since he is close to a decision, and the Yankees are close to signing somebody.
I like this better than Ben Sheets, so I hope this happens.
They’re getting IPK back.
then trading him and melky for king felix
That in a nutshell is the plan.
:fist pump:
Cashman loves to give the Yankee fans big presents for the Holidays. Why should this year be any different? Please, no Harang though.
Why no Harang?
He’s not…very…good…?
periphs. edumacate yourself.
he’s not a #1, but as a #4 starter he would be solid. 3.95 FIP last yr.
that said, the contract is a tad pricey.
Tad pricy and the NL Central was the worst offensive division in MLB last year.
Yeah, I was way too lazy to actually look up his periphs.
It’s worth nothing, though, that his tRA+ (stat corner version) has been 88 and 98 the past two years.
I’d rather gamble on Sheets @ $12MM than trade for Harang.
I seem to remember Joe P doing a piece last year saying he was mishandled by Dusty Baker (shock!) and was a good bounce back candidate. He detailed a stretch where he was overused, and his numbers were bad afterward.
Right, but that instance of misuse by Dusty was in 2008 (when Dusty brought him in for a few relief innings in an extra-inning game), so the bounceback related to that misuse should have been in 2009. He did have a better season in 2009, I’m just saying the 2008 misuse Joe pointed out wouldn’t lead us to believe a 2010 bounceback might be in the cards.
Gotcha.
(I know that because I had Harang in fantasy that season, I’m not just some weird Aaron Harang encyclopedia.)
If its Harang then so be it but I HOPE it’s either Sheets or the Duke.
He mentioned Harang, but I think he was just taking a swipe at a name.
BTW-Mike, kudos on that piece you did this afternoon. I know it’s impossible to nail down definitively, but you did a good job of going wherever the numbers led, despite having a preconceived notion going in.
…actually, mike did a back of the envelope calculation that he specifically mentioned did not take into account a number of important variables, including (but not limited to) the quality of opposing batters. Which is probably the single most important variable to account for in this case.
So…really, we still don’t know very much at all.
…actually, I just said that.
The way the post was worded, it sounded more like a trade than a FA signing to me. We might do both. I like Duchscherer, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Cash traded for another guy, too. Sheets wants $12M, which is insane, and if that doesn’t come down, there’s no way Cash gets him.
Could he be trading for another Aceves type? A guy that can be a swingman.
Isn’t that what Gaudin is for?
That would seem logical, especially if they want to get the most out of Hughes and give him as many starts as possible.
It better not be: Harang, Arroyo, Lowe, or Zambrano.
I read a trade proposal for Lowe or Zambrano (forgot which one) that included Melky and Joba. I swear the Yankees mlb board is the worst place to talk about the Yankees, next to LoHud.
+1
You just missed a Montero for Harang proposal on MLBTR
Please no:
Lowe
Harang
Zambrano
Pinero
Garland
Can someone enlighten me as to why the Yankees would chose Duchscherer over Sheets? Duchscherer has had less than 30 starts in his career, and he’s 30. Sheets is an established ace.
Salary and wanting to keep Hughes and Chamberlain in the rotation w/o hindrance.
He’ll be cheaper. Yanks are near the 200 M mark, I don’t see them spending 10 M+ but that’s just me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm4TG56KGZ4
This fucked up the rest of my night. Im going to spend the rest of hit hitting refresh on twitter! Thanks Olney!
+1
Maybe Igawa is being called up.
Thread=over
How long did the Redskins have possession in the first quarter? 30 seconds?
…
That’s what I get for having multiple tabs open.
/points and laughs
If the Giants lose tonight, the season is pretty much over. It’s a long-shot even WITH a win.
If that doesn’t inspire them, I’m not sure what would – maybe Dick Jauron as new DC.
For all of you saying you want Harang in a Reds salary dump but believe Cash doesn’t want to pay $12 million for Sheets, Harang is due to make $12.5 next year.
Either direction means a good bump in the payroll.
… Nobody has said that.
If it is Harang would the Reds eat any of that contract?
Depends on if we wanted to give up anything.
8:07pm: Could this be related to what David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution wrote in the comments section of his blog earlier this evening?
“Got a call from a NY writer today wanting to know if I’d heard anything heating up between Yankees and Braves…. Apparently Yankees have hinted at doing “something big” soon. Don’t know if that means pitching”.
Hard to imagine the Yankees will go another round with Javier Vazquez, but could this mean Derek Lowe? Like Harang, the Yankees could be among the few teams able to take on Lowe’s three-year, $45MM deal.
I hate to say this (because I don’t like Lowe) but Lowe makes sense.
-Braves are desperate to get rid of him
-Lowe was quoted saying “he would never have signed there” if he was going to be traded a year later
-The Braves CANT bring him back, so they’ll eat salary
-Yanks went after Lowe last year as a FA, so they’re already familiar with him. Had AJ not signed, they would have signed him next.
It all adds up.
Too much money and too many years. The Braves would need to kick in about $10M a year to make it even worth considering.
Lowe threw 16.1 fewer innings in 2009 than he did in 2008, yet allowed 59 (!) more baserunners.
Yup.
Except for performance. This ain’t the NL. It’s been awhile since he’s been in the AL East and that didn’t end well.
Right, which is why I don’t like him. Cash might view him as a replacement for Wang as a ground ball machine/inning eater type. At 37 in the AL East, I just have major doubts on how effective he’ll be.
except the three-year, big money deal. I don’t know that Atlanta could eat enough cash to make that palatable, and I also don’t know that I think Lowe is a good bet to be any better than Joba or Hughes over the duration of that deal.
Hmm.. Maybe Mclouth is involved. He’s a great little playa.
/Francesa’d
Hues + Jaba + Montero + the Brooklyn Bridge for McClouth
I don’t think Cashman would take on Lowe and the 45 million that is left on his deal unless he got some solid minor league chips with it. Javier Vazquez I could see but he might cost too much in terms of trade bait.
They’ll eat salary. He was awful last year and has made comments that make it hard to bring him back.
Hmmm.. If it’s a trade I wonder if Swish is involved.
Damn, stole the words right out of my mouth. Wren inquired on Swish last year.
I hope that isn’t the case. Trading Swisher, especially for a big contract starter, is a bad move in a few different ways.
I know what you mean but Swish carries a ton of trade value. He’s an on base machine, he hits for power and he’s not over paid. A lot of teams would love to have him.
Exactly why it’s a bad move for the Yankees in a few different ways.
Right, so why waste his value on an overpaid starter that a team is looking to dump?
Swisher isn’t going anywhere.
Haha. Exactly. Because I totally said we should get an overpaid starter that a team is looking to dump.
Matt said: “Trading Swisher, especially for a big contract starter, is a bad move in a few different ways.”
You replied: “I know what you mean but Swish carries a ton of trade value.”
That ‘but’ means that you would not be so sure about not trading Swisher for a big contract starter.
If you would like to take back your comment and say you misread Matt’s statement, you may do so now. I’m sure we will all accept your apology.
First off, “big” does not translate “bad” or “overpaid.”
The main point Matt was getting at is, trading Swisher would be a made move in several different ways. Just because he said “especially a big contract starter” doesn’t mean that was the only way that trading Swish would be a bad move.
I voiced why trading Swish would be a good move.
Sorry, *bad move. Not “made move.”
So the Yankees should be interested in giving him up for a bad contract?
Again, where did I say trade him for a bad contract?
How do you trade Swisher without signing Holliday?
And how do you stay within budget and sign Holliday? (Back-load the contract?)
Problem is, his value is greater than Lowe, Harang, Arroyo, [enter crappy pitcher name here]
How bout them giants
Hoe bout that open thread
Wow ESPN is actually breaking something for a change, instead of writing “sources:……..” and stealing someone else’s report
Harang was way too hittable last year and gives up too many dingers, sure hope its not him
With Cashmoney as GM, rumors of a trade for a starting pitcher most likely means Matt Holliday will be our LF next year.
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I think a Melky or Gardner for Lowe deal could be made if the Braves ate about 15 – 20 million dollars of the contract, and i think the Braves would make that deal to shed salary…..It would work for both teams.
If Cash trades away Swish, will Matt ever forgive him?
Depends.
#28 = All forgiven, no?
Tommy Hanson and Jordan Schafer for Swisher. Book it.
Okay, that works.
Jason Heyward or we say no.
Tommy Hanson and
Jordan SchaferJason Heyward for Swisher. Book it.Tommy Hanson Jason Heyward Javy Vazquez for Swisher Melky Aceves
lol
What would be an acceptable trade with Swish involved? One that includes some players the Yanks have been linked to.
So Lowe, Harang, Arroyo, etc.? None, IMO.
Javy Vasquez (won’t happen but whatevs)?
Vasquez, maybe, yeah. That’d be the best.
V-A-Z-Q-U-E-Z
/tsjc’d
C-L-O-W-N
/Pinstripe Destiny’d
I have a bad feeling that this trade will include Swisher and Atlanta. That trade would be excellent if we were getting Jair Jurrjens but thats doubtful. Im nervous.
I’m confident in Cash. I can’t remember the last time he made a trade that made me say “damn, he overpaid.”
but marte sucks and nady is injured and tabata is awesome and did ytou see wat ohlendorf and karstenbs did for pitts?!?!11?!11
\ig’nant’d
This is probably nothing. If there were something I bet either Fox Sports or SI would be on it.
If he traded Swisher would Damon be back in play?
Only if he can play RF.
or CF, and move Grandy to RF.
Granderson has a terrible arm, Damon-esque.
Check on the latest post on MLBTradeRumors.com. Says Yanks are working with Atlanta on a trade.
No, no it doesn’t, actually.
Actually, it doesn’t say that at all. The writer is just speculating, like the rest of us.
no, it says an atlanta reporters says they might be talking to atlanta, but never says they actually are.
I thought Granderson CF, Damon LF, and Melky RF, but who knows just throwing it out there.
That would just be useless.
Jeez, not sure Lowe is the answer in his age 37 season. (He’ll be 37 on June 1.)
Lowe has been the better pitcher, and has been successful (and unsuccessful) in the AL East.
I’m not sure whether I want Harang or Lowe less.
Can’t we just sign Sheets and/or Duke?
I do not care if the Braves kicked in 20 million. I would not trade Swisher for Lowe. Please stop the insanity……..Unless the Yanks intend to sign Holliday. Budget? What budget?
What in the name of Marty Janzen?! Come on Olney, don’t Page 6 us here, GIVE US NAMES!
Aaron Harang…?
Its just phrased so weird, if they were working on a deal for Harang wouldn’t he just say “Yankees working on a deal with The Reds for Harang”?
Oh I thought you meant names as in likely candidates since we have no idea who they are after.
I hope its just Sheets Or The Douche signing.
According to Ken Davidoff’s latest tweet, it’s not Harang:
http://twitter.com/KenDavidoff/status/6915110128
Two or three trade talks – hmmm
Lowe, or the return of Javy
Zambrano
Or… something huge? (Josh Johnson anyone?)
Three way deal where we get Vazquez and Juan Rivera from Angels. Then we’ll have both players we traded to get Javy back in ’03-’04.
Can they get Randy Choate from Tampa?
The angels got raped this offseason…. Lackey, Figgins, Guerrero, Oliver, anyone else?
that would be hilarious.
Gardner for Shaeffer and Lowe? As much as I’d like to see Brett Gardner dropped into a cauldron of scalding hot semen, ultimately succumbing to terrible burns in Atlanta, I wouldn’t want to grab Lowe EVEN with Shaeffer unless Atlanta basically eats his contract.
Lol.
Gardner to ATL doesn’t make too much sense IMO.
I was going for the lulz and at the same time putting limits on my extreme desire to see Brett Gardner be traded.
Gardner for Heyward + Lowe.
O’Brien said ‘something big’.
Montero and Heyward swap, oh noes!
OK, here’s my deal:
Braves get Nick Swisher, Austin Jackson and Ian Kennedy
Yanks get Derek Lowe, Mike Gonzalez and Rafael Soriano
Deal.
I laughed.
ietc
Lowe would provide a good innings eater in case Andy or AJ go down, so I wouldnt have too much of a problem if its for him. If it’s including Swisher though – does it mean Cash is also targeting Holliday? Hmmmm….
The problem is that Lowe isn’t paid like an innings eater.
I don’t understand the notion of an ‘innings eater.’ I mean, I could eat innings, too, but would the Yankees want me to?
You missed the “good” part. Lowe might not be a stud, but he is more reliable than Joba, Hughes, or Sheets.
Maybe in the NL East.
or NL West
You probably throw like a girl…
Suddenly the seemingly cold stove heats up.. I wonder if this is all bullshit.
Cash rarely let’s anyone know what he’s thinking and what he’s doing, this situation shouldn’t be much different.
I don’t think it’s BS, since Cash was quoted the other day about getting something done by New Years. Not like that’s some hard deadline, but implying he’s had some talks and thinks there’s a deal to be made, where both parties are pretty close.
Na, this is real. Rosenthal and DAvidoff are in on it now too.
Marlins/Braves/Yankees
Marlins give: JJ, Stanton
Marlins get: Igawa
Braves give: JJ, Heyward
Braves get: Edwar
Yankees give: Igawa, Edwar
Yankees get: JJ, JJ, Stanton, Heyward.
Heyward, Montero, Stanton makes me sooooo wet
I traded Wang and Nady for Stanton in MLB ’09.
My guess – BWebb from Arizona.
Not a bad guess. But don’t see it. They traded for E-Jax to make a run at the division this year with a top three of Haren – Webb – Jackson.
i can’t see it, but i like the idea.
id say probably Lowe and maybe Haraang, whoever it is, id prefer they didnt have to give up any mega prospects, namely Jesus Montero. I dont think theyll have to though, cause all the pitchers theyre targeting are high contract pitchers who wuld be more of a signing than a trade, but if they actually are pulling off “something big”, like is being implied, than id prefer they… um… didnt give up Montero? And i think its ironic that Lowe is a possibility because last year it was considered almost an impossibility that the Yanks sign Lowe, Sabathia, and Burnett, but now there on the verge of doing just that
Yankees shouldnt give up anyone for those crappy pitchers and their contracts
Via Davidoff:
http://twitter.com/KenDavidoff/status/6915110128
Amen to that.
Thank goodness – let’s hope he’s right that it’s not Harang. I’m uberanxious to know!
Best news of the evening.
Sweet.
But now we need 2-3 names, instead of one.
-Lowe
-?
-??
So that would eliminate Sheets/Dusch.
I wonder what the real deal is.
No Harang? Music to my ears.
Thank Mo. You just made my night, Pop.
TWSS!
Haha
http://www.dolland.net/lovelin.....amnlie.mp3
That’s what Michelle Phillips said.
*Mackenzie
Im going way off topic than everyone else ROY OSWALT !!!
That would be a dark horse! Not a bad guess.
Now there’s an interesting angle…
well played sir…well played.
He talked shit about Al. He’s on my shit list.
+1
You talk ish about Alex and you can just get out.
Never knew this woah forget that he can stay on the astros
Houston never trades their core players. They always think they have a chance, and by adding small pieces like Lyon for 15m they think it makes them better.
We’ll know soon enough. Wish it were someone with decent potential, though. Neither Harang nor Lowe are going to be “innings eaters” if they aren’t good enough to pitch in the AL East (in Lowe’s case, “anymore”).
I’m not going to bother speculating on what might be going on, but I’ll say this… If they trade Jesus Montero, I’ll be disappointed. I know that if they traded him and got back a young superstar it’d probably be a good move, but unless we’re talking Felix or someone like that, I don’t want to hear Montero’s name attached to any rumored or consummated deal.
+1
Agreed.
I wouldn’t even think Felix would be available now anyway since they dealt for Cliff Lee.
/waits for 10:01 update that Yankees have traded for Felix Hernandez
The way Cash has operated the past few years do you think he’d trade Montero for crap? I’m 100% positive we would be very happy with whatever he got back.
Guys, check out the updates to the original post.
C’mon Rosenthal you little weasel, do your job!!!
I love the HOT STOVE.
I called a Swisher for Javy swap earlier in the week.
I don’t think Javy will ever be back here. Though I’ve been wrong before.
He’s matured. And lets remember that at this point, all they need is a good 3/4 guy.
It’s Lester.
They’re throwing in Willie Tyler too:
http://mokellyreport.files.wor.....ester1.jpg
Yeah that’s like 20 years before my time.
http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal
Speculations of a trade =O
josh johnson is coming to the bronx
I know this is real far fetched, but how about Duck from the buccos?? Young, and has shown he can pitch even in the death trap of a team in Pittsburgh….
*DUKE
I hope they don’t give up the farm no matter who it may be. Do you think the Cubs are trying to do a salary dump with Zambrano? Just a guess.
18m 4th starter? no thanks
Josh Johnson anyone?
That would be AMAZING
No, because you’d see tons of reports of multiple teams after him. Plus they already turned down Feliz and Smoak earlier in the offseason.
I meant no i dont think it’s him, not no i dont want him
That Feliz and Smoak for him was debunked by multiple people.
i agree that would be incredible, but i dont see the fish giving him up
Sigh…
A trade for a starter–that isn’t some young stud–would really be at worst a big step back for the ’10 team and at best a side-step. Hurting (or, stupidly stopping completely) the development of Hughes or Chamberlain as starters would be disappointing.
If it’s Oswalt or Josh Johnson, either Joba or Hughes are part of a (big) package going the other way
(and I’ve just put ‘Johnson’ and ‘package’ in the same sentence)
(and I’ve just put ‘Johnson’ and ‘package’ in the same sentence)
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I hear you, I’m feeling uneasy about this right now, too. Let’s wait to see what’s actually going down, though. In Cash We Trust.
Cash knows best.
Fuck, the suspense is killing me. I need names, dammit.
Barry Zito
My dream trade is Zito for Wells straight up.
Watch it be something ridiculous.
Jamie Moyer.
Jamie Moyer for bullpen coach maybe.
Cole Hamels.
Comeeeee onnnnnnnn Cole.
Who are you?
(Said in the most nasal/whiny/girlie way possible.)
Damn you pat!
Bwahahaha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXnnM218SPc
Who are you?
I really doubt that. We have depth, what we need is a real #2 so we can push the inconsistent AJ Burnett down a peg.
How can no one know who the pitchers are??? lol
Cash=NINJA.
YEAH! GET ME TEH NAMES SO I CAN STARTZ TEH BIDDING!!!
I hate the fact that it’s a trade, I’d much rather sign J-Duch, or maybe it’s Z-Duke… which would be better than Lowe, Harang, or Zambrano.
I’m worried this might involve giving up Montero AND Hughes or Joba.
If it’s for Felix or Johnson, I’d be okay. Disappointed…but okay.
I really can’t see Seattle trading Felix. They are clearly in contention for the AL West in ’10. Their rotation right now is great with Lee and Felix. Can’t see why they’d want to give an arm like Felix up in this situation.
Seattle put themselves in position to win the AL West with a rotation led by King Felix and Lee – and spent cash to get Figgins. Why would the Mariners then trade the best pitcher in baseball?
Josh Johnson? I would be too excited to be disappointed
Seattle put themselves in position to win the AL West with a rotation led by King Felix and Lee – and spent cash to get Figgins. Why would the Mariners then trade the best pitcher in baseball?
They wouldn’t.
That would be a blockbuster.
Why? They better be geting Josh Johnson or Lincecum if that’s the case. And we all know neither of those are happening.
That is why Cash is the best, everyone knows Cash is in trade discussions, but no one has any idea what players.
How is it possible that Jon Heyman hasn’t broke the story yet?
Seriously. He must be asleep.
If Heyman does not know then it does not involve a Boras client.
D00d, wtf? This was NOT me.
I did not know that this name was taken.
Kindly choose another screen name. Thanks!
Maybe I am the original V and you are indeed the imposter.
You need to change your handle, that one’s already accounted for.
Fixed/
The deal must not involve a Boras client:BURN.
http://buuurn.com/
h/t
God, I love that.
Maybe because this might actually be true.
Carlos Zambrano? I heard that this morning.
Cashman is too smart for that.
+that
The mets are giving up its Johan Santana !
Lets name all the tops pitchers and say their teams are giving upp i just hope theirs a team giving upp yesss
What’s the problem with giving names, Olney?
If it’s Derek Lowe – would you guys hate Cashman?
I think we’d be pretty peeved.
On first thought, yes. But Lowe is coming in to be a 3/4 guy not a #2 or 1. However, that’s a high price tag.
Who’s our #2, Burnett? Too inconsistent. AJ’s a really good #3, but a middling #2.
When AJ is on, he’s one of the best pitchers in the game. Sure, it’d be nice to have a better pitcher in the #2 slot, but that’s what we’re hoping Joba can do.
I agree, that’s why I really like Sheets. From the group of him, Joba and Hughes one of them will show up and/or perform well next year. They all have the ability, but expecting all 3 to be good is unreasonable.
Remember when the Phillies won the WS in 2009? That sucked.
That’s fair, but it’s also fair to say the Red Sox rotation is significantly better than ours right now.
well since it would be a salary dump the package wouldn’t be huge and he wouldn’t have to be a top of the rotation guy so I would be ok with it
Yep. It’d block up a rotation slot with a declining player for several years, spend money that I think could be better used on other players, and cost prospects.
atlanta’s definitely eating salary.
if its Lowe, we’re not taking on all that money.
LOL @ no one having a clue who the pitchers are. haha
It is pretty funny.
What a clusterf*ck, huh.
I hear they’re trading for Jesse Orosco.
2009 OPS+
Derek Lowe: 88
Joba Chamberlain: 90
Again tell me why we need Lowe? When only 1 of those 2 players is going to get better with age.
And pitchers don’t even hit in the AL.
http://www.hiyoooo.com/
Actually, this is probably a more appropriate end to my comment:
http://sadtrombone.com
Ah shit. Yeah ERA+
it wont be Lowe…that goes against everything Cashman has been saying about the budget and offseason moves. he wont do something stupid, at least i hope not. god i hate the waiting
My Mo. PLEASE don’t let it be Lowe.
Hmm, if no one knows what team and what player, maybe they don’t know what position either? Maybe we shouldn’t assume its for a starter.
..eh, who am I kidding, it has got to be a starter.
It’s almost definitely a starter. That’s the one thing that all the reports have in common. I don’t think it’s going to be anyone like Harang or Lowe. Cashman has been sticking to his budget, I don’t see them eating any major salary.
I wrote this before the update.
Man, i was hoping we could go into the season we Hughes, Joba, and Montero. would be pretty disappointed if one of them is traded.
Peavy anyyone? Kenny loves getting raped by the cash man
Melky and Nova. Do it Cash!
Brian Bannister perhaps?
Feinsand says it’s not a salary dump.
Good to hear in a way but it means that the Yankees are probably giving up something of value.
The plot thickens!
Cashman, I know where you live, if you trade Montero, I will hunt you down.
Jurrjens?
or Kenshin Kawakami?
Jesus Montero + Austin Romine for Junichi Tazawa!
Why do i get the feeling i’m going to be slightly disappointed when i hear who it is?
Ok, fine, it’s not Harang. Now, please, tell me it’s not Lowe.
According to the last update, it won’t be a salary dump. So it’s probably not Lowe.
Please no.
new update…no more Lowe speculation…now im really interested in this move..its not a salary dump which means it might be a pretty significant trade. wow this better go down tonight..i wont be able to sleep
I’d be shocked if we don’t get a name tonight. Everybody’s awake and looking for the name. Its gonna leak within the hour. its gotta…right?
After watching RAW tonight, I wonder how J. Damon ever did an interview without embarassing himself.. Worst guest host EVER, dont bring him back Yanks just on that alone!
Come on man.
the guy has a stuttering problem, he’s done okay in his post game interviews considering his condition.
I was just joking.. I LOVE J. Damon would love him back again.. But he really is a terrible RAW host, I have no idea what possessed him to do this.
Re: most recent update
WOOT!! I’m getting ancy here.
this is insane. every single detail of every trade has been leaked for the last year, and no one even knows what team they are talking to?
this has got to be huge, no?
no one is protecting a Brian Bannister trade secret with their life, right?
just be careful what you wish for. you know who we’re dealing in a “huge” trade, right?
Its probably a trade to get Jeff Marquez back.
Josh Johnson?
please no Zambrano.
According to Mark Feinsand, NOT a salary dump (so not Harang, Lowe or Zambrano):
http://twitter.com/BloggingBom.....6915912068
If that’s the case, it’s something big (Oswalt, Johnson)
Is Oswalt still a big deal? He’s 32 years old and the peripherals are declining.
If it’s J. Johnson, we have more than replaced the void of dick jokes in the Yankeeverse.
In all seriousness, what would Florida ask for (and turn down) in return? I’m thinking primarily Montero + Joba/Phil + lower class prospect. Hopefully that won’t come to be.
Man I parked my ass in front of my puter and forgot about the Giants game.
I feel like a fat kid with cake
HarangLowe
OK, we’ve narrowed it down a bit. Only 288 pitchers to go.
SheetsDusch
Gotcha. Make that 286.
Also, if it’s not a salary dump.
Zambrano???All Other Free Agents…for now?
If it’s something big I’ll take a guess and say its either Josh Johnson, Matt Cain or Roy Oswalt. Doubt its Zambrano and it better not be Derek Lowe.
Although a Melky-Gorzelanny swap could happen…but that doesnt fit in with the report of Cashman wanting to do something “big”.
i would love me some matt cain
I didnt exactly call it, but i did posit a Cain for Montero trade several months ago. It gave several of our noteworthy posters pause before rejecting it. If its Cain … we’re likely losing Montero.
not saying i would make that trade…..especially if Montero is involved. But i have always been a Cain fan
Montero for Cain doesn’t seem like a good fit… NL team with no DH and a block at C (Posey) … absolutely no experience at 1b.
Aside from that i’d love to see Cain here. ALL ABOARD THE GRAVY TRAIN.
This is going to be EPIC !!!!
DO NOT TRADE MONTERO.
/rant finished.
Cash knows what he’s doing.
..If only I knew…
i hope so.
My bet is that it is Johnson, the dude fits into the budget.
I would assume that either Melky, or Gardner is in this deal from all of the recent reports saying that teams have been interested. I also think that Cashman isn’t teasing us and it will be someone of interest.
any chance it’s Josh Johnson?
Very possible.
Not really, given the package the Marlins already turned down.
Are we sure that was ever really on the table?
Who’s to say Cash isn’t offering a ‘better’ deal mainly to counter Boston’s big pickups.
Unlikely, but very possible.
wth…
watch it is going to be a Holliday signing, smoke and mirrors
holy shit this is suspenseful. and i’m calling it, it is Felix Hernandez
after they just dealt for lee and are now favorites in the division…unlikely
i know, i know, but i’m feelin it
Josh Johnson + Maybin for Hughes+ Montero?
Sign me up!
Actually, nevermind, if it’s JOhnson and Stanton then fine, but HIGHLEY unlikely.
That would be freaking awesome!
I will be the happiest person alive AND the saddest at the same time.
That would be interesting.
/handle change’d
in regards to Maybin,
incredibly nice guy.. we chatted for like 10 mins two years ago at spring training.. he was so psyched at the time because he had just hit that homer off of Clemens at the time the season before. I would love to have him in the organization. He also hit 2 home runs that spring training game. Yeah I know we aren’t going to get him, but I have a soft spot.
I was at the Clemens game. Since Maybin and I are both 1987 babies, it made me feel like I’d accomplished very little.
I’m calling it. It’s Cliff Lee. Yes. His mind. It is blown…….again.
It’s Roy Halladay.
I wanted to finish my career in
PhillyNY.okay, since everyone else is calling it
i’m “calling” Grienke…
I like to go as realistic as possible.
I mean the royals wanted melk or gardy..
that’s a fair swap.
GIVE ME PEAVY
NO!
for the sake of throwing out a name that hasnt been mentioned, i wonder if the yankees would consider/are considering reacquiring ted lilly
ted lilly would classify as a salary dump
I don’t think so. He’s making $12 mil, and given his last few years he’s probably worth close to that.
and had shoulder surgery and probably will start the season on the DL
good point, i forgot about that.
guys – Florida turned down Smoak and Feliz for Josh Johnson. That means they’re not taking Joba / Phil and Montero.
You know this how?
because i know how to use the internet / read?
http://www.sportingnews.com/ml.....ak-dangled
I meant how do you know that they wouldn’t take Joba and Montero?
You stay classy..
It was reported earlier this offseason.
Oh damn I forgot, you’re right. Unless it’s Joba, Hughes, Montero and Romine or something…
Each of these little Twitter-tidbits keep eliminating possibilities: who’s left???
I’m feeling JJ.
I am going to take a guess and say Bonderman. Maybe Lilly??
Wouldn’t Bonderman be a bit of a salary dump?
I forgot that guy existed.
i bit?? he’s due 12.5 Mill.
thats a no doubt salary dump.
Teddy Lilz, this year will be a Yankee homecoming
Would anyone do Cain or Josh Johnson for Montero+Joba?
Not Cain, Johnson yes.
Nah
BOTH?
No. One or the other? Sure. I think some other pieces on both sides would have to be involved.
yes, but it would make me sad
jonathan sanchez?
Given that it’s not a salary dump, this is either going to be a much lower-level move than people are talking about, or it’s going to involve Montero and one of Hughes or Joba.
I’m really not sure I understand the motivation for either :-/
That.
true
I wonder if it’s for Ted Lilly.
I rather have him than Big Z, and the Cubs prob. feel the same way
Can Adrian Gonzalez pitch?
we have Nick Swisher.
Maybe not for much longer. . . .
Outside the box: JOE BLANTON.
pls dont kill me when i’m right.
classifies as a salary dump
We already have a Blanton. His name is Chad Gaudin.
yep. that’s my fear too. blanton isn’t much of an upgrade in terms of stuff from gaudin. but look at the innings logged. blanton is a guaranteed 33 start guy.
i hope i’m wrong … but i got a sick feeling.
and Sergio Mitre.
I could see that, actually. Just some mid-level trade, nothing epic.
I hope not. That’d be an 80′s Yankees move, trading a young player who could probably perform similarly for an Established Veteran who really only costs more and provides no better production.
I’m guessing the trade is for Kyle Farnsworth.
Just kidding, but I wouldn’t be shocked if this were a minor move and we’ve all been jocked.
I’m preparing to be underwhelmed by this deal.
Yeah, I think we should all take this route.
I’m thinking Lilly
My sister’s cousin’s brother’s nephew’s father’s wife’s daughter is related to Josh Johnson! She says it’s a done deal!
/totally credible source’d
I’m your father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate.
What if it’s just someone who started a rumor, like Cash is just like.. “let’s see how riled up we can get the media…” hahahaha I know that would be awful, but if I was a GM i think I would do it once, just to mess with the media for all of the shit they print.
I think it will be a B-lister…Wandy Rodriguez, Chris Young, Jorge de la Rosa, etc
Wandy’s no B-lister, he’s legit.
I mean B-lister in the sense that it’s not going to be Felix or Josh Johnson.
I don’t think Wandy and Young are on the same list.
Oo, Wandy would be nice. I wonder what his price would be…
David Wells
needless to say, i will not sleep until i know the mystery pitcher
Imagine if it’s a real minor move. I’m trying to get my hopes down since I made them way too high.
Michael VICK!!
Injuryexpert is saying Zambrano
No way.
We know they were talking to the Cubs, but Cash said the $ was too high. Maybe it came down some.
Melky+a pitcher for the big Z?
Z has to count as a salary dump
I’d hope not. I really don’t want Zambrano anywhere near the Yankees. He’s not worth sacrificing another year of development of Hughes/Chamberlain.
god I hope not. If that deal ISN’T a salary dump, it’s even worse than if it is.
this is offtopic but wow i wish hakeem nicks would score so i could be in the fantasy superbowl
he’s hurt
wow that sucks…im gona lose by like 5 points…i got tynes too…FG fest?
I need 2 more TDs from Smith
I only need one more point from him. I actually traded Brandon Marshall for Smith.
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ove-21542/
Why do the Red Sox sign Lackey, then everyone assumes they will trade Clay Buccholz for Adrian Gonzalez, yet… they can’t decide who the hell this trade is be for?
NESN made up the pipe dream of Adrian Gonzalez to the Sox and spread it everywhere. Thankfully there’s nothing like that over here so…we have no freakin idea who this guy is.
No other team will accept our shitty prospects because Texas’ are better.
-Slater’d
They are trading for Zack Greinke. You heard it here.
“SamVa says:
December 21st, 2009 at 10:23 pm
okay, since everyone else is calling it
i’m “calling” Grienke…”
nope. they heard it there
I meant as in here on RAB
No other team will accept our shitty prospects because Texas’ are better.
-Slater’d
No one said that, but Smoak is ALSO an elite bat, and Feliz is just as elite as a Joba/Hughes and he has more years of team control.
it doesn’t add up.
I don’t think that rumor was ever confirmed. I just don’t see how they turned it down if it where true.
Unconfirmed- It’s Zambrano
stfu
source?
I take back everything I said about Dadmon after he just made out with Mae Young.. He’s my hero again.
And I dont think its more than a #4 starter we’re talking bout here.
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, I thought she was dead.
Isn’t Johnny married?
So?
/ARod’d
/Tiger’d
/et all athletes
Justin Verlander ? might as well thing BIG !
/mryankee’d
OH SHIT YOU SAID HIS NAME NOW HE’S GONNA COME.
/TSJC’d
This is more suspenseful than Game 2 of the ALDS!! (Not really, but I am going insane.) I really want to keep Joba, Hughes, and Montero, but Cash knows his shit.
its timmy lincecum =)
on a more serious note. its probably a 4 or 5 guy from a low payroll team, or it can be 2-3 guy from a medium payroll team
I think Texas has better prospects, so nobody will trade for our shitty ones
-Slater’d
you really are clueless.
?
Just because YOU keep saying it doesn’t mean that anyone else is saying this.
Verlander?
Possibly Gil Mesche (sp)?
IT’S BEEN A WHOLE 24 MINUTES WITHOUT AN UPDATE!! GAAAAH!!
JON HEYMAN WOKE UP!
What did he say?
same as everyone else…nothing new.
not Harang…not Z.
#yanks in talks for starting pitcher. doesnt appear to be harang. maybe not zambrano either (tho they talked to #cubs)
#yanks in talks for starting pitcher. doesnt appear to be harang. maybe not zambrano either (tho they talked to #cubs)
Joba and Montero will Not land an ace
-Slater’d
if you can show me where i said that, i’d love to read it.
you’re embarrassing yourself at this point.
Whatevs
Making the same comment 4 times in one thread: /Teix is the Man’d
Good grief, man. No need to be so sensitive.
Mey Mike – can we get a spillover thread?
This
How about this:
The Giants were supposedly very hot after Nick Johnson, so maybe after Damon came back with his reduced rate, Cashman called Sabean to see if maybe they could flip him? If so, I’d say a fair return would be Jonathan Sanchez. Another alternative would be Swisher for Sanchez, which I don’t think I’d like. Wishful thinking has me hoping for Matt Cain.
zambrano gets paid $18 mil!?!? WTF, please stay away Cash.
This is either going to be something organization-changing or incredibly minor.
If nothing materializes tonight … I dont think i’ll be able to sleep.
Pending Yankees trade + Nicks injury + Avatar = insomnia
I’m going to say Nolasco.
pick 6 baby
My wild stab in the dark will be a deal with the Cubs for Lilly with Melky and prospects going the other way.
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