Open Thread: DiMaggio vs. Paige

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Jeff Faraudo of the San Jose Mercury News writes of a story out of baseball’s forgotten lore, a matchup between Joe DiMaggio and Satchel Paige.

Joe DiMaggio was a prospect, a promising one for sure, but he still was two months shy of making his New York Yankees spring-training debut.

Leroy “Satchel” Paige was a Negro Leagues pitching sensation whose exploits seemed the stuff of myth until they actually were seen.

On a Sunday afternoon, Jan. 26, 1936, at the Oaks Ball Park in Emeryville, the two future Hall of Famers crossed paths in a fascinating but seldom told chapter of their legendary careers.

DiMaggio, 21 at the time, wasn’t the stoic Yankee Clipper yet.

Paige, 29 and in the prime of his career, played mostly in the game’s shadows. He wouldn’t make his major league debut for 12 more years.

The game, as Faraudo describes it, was quite the battle, pitting big leaguers against two Negro league players and a crew of players from the Oakland playgrounds. Paige, unsurprisingly, stole the show, allowing just one run on three hits through nine innings while driving in his team’s only run. DiMaggio was hitless until the 10th, when he slapped a single up the middle for the winning run.

After you finish taking in that memory, come back for the open thread. In local sports, the Devils are up in Ottawa, the Islanders host Washington, and the Knicks host the Wolves.

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  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    I have five pages of work to write for my internship tonight. I really need to stop procrastinating.

    • thurdonpaul

      fuggetaboutitttt…its miller time

  • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

    Anyone else laughed out loud when the A’s signed Sheets? Not laughing at the A’s of course but at the Mutts.

    If they got Sheets and if he was healthy he would have probably made the Mets contenders. There is no way they even approach the Phillies with that rotation.

    • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

      And for clarification there is no way they approach the Phillies with their rotation as of now without Sheets.

      And I doubt the Mets can actually get anyone decent on the trade market but that’s just me.

      • Tom Zig

        If Santana made 50 starts, they might be contenders.

        • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

          Haha but more like 162.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          If Santana made 50 starts and won them all, the Mets might go 81-81.

          Maybe. Probably not, though.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        2010 NL East:
        1) Phillies
        (gap)
        2t) Marlins
        2t) Braves

        (huge gap)

        4) Mets
        (miniscule, microscopic, razor-thin, hair’s breadth gap)
        5) Natinals

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I laughed more when the Pads signed Garland. The Mets are going nowhere with that staff. If I was David Wright, I’d be pissed my prime years were wasting away with that crappy GM putting a team together.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        But Gary Matthews Jr?!?!?!??!?!

      • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

        I actually didn’t know Garland was signed until a few minutes ago. Met fans were dying to have him and Sheets when Pinero signed and now that they’re both gone they are royally screwed.

        I mean seriously who’s left on the FA market that can have an impact? Or who can they realistically trade for? Oh well thank Mo our GM is smart.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        Maybe they’ll take a flier on Bedard?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          Seriously, they should.

          Unfortunately Bedard is a whiny priss who doesn’t want to play in a big city and pitch under pressure. I bet Erik Bedard and the New York Mets wouldn’t end well.

          • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

            Yeah, but I think he’d consider changing his tune when no one else offers him anything. His market has been literally nil this Hot Stove season.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Who else is left?

          Looper? No, not going to happen because of their history.
          Washburn? Yeah, okay.
          CMW? Risky.

          Dare I say … PEDRO MARTINEZ?!?

          • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

            Washburn might do well in that fly-ball friendly park, but will the OF defense be good enough? Probably not.

            • Accent Shallow

              Depends on Beltran’s health, and what you think of Francoeur’s defense.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

            They should sign Smoltz to be the new closer and move K-Rod to the rotation.

            Can’t be any worse than the rest of their options.

  • vin

    Weird. I’m currently reading Posnanski’s Buck O’Neil book “The Soul of Baseball”… no more than an hour ago did I read stories about Satch.

    Also, on page 138:

    “…the man Joe DiMaggio had called the best pitcher he ever faced.”

    The famous “Nancy” story is worth checking out.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      The famous “Nancy” story is worth checking out.

      Refresh my memory, please. Spill it.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    Thome to Minnesota.

    Thoughts?

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      WordUpThome: SO WHAT IS THE MASCOT SITUATION LIKE IN MINNESOTA

      WordUpThome: BECAUSE IN LOS ANGELES THE ONLY THING WE HAD WAS KIM KARDASHIAN AND I’M NOT COMFORTABLE HAVING A MASCOT WITH A TUCKUS BIGGER THAN THE PHILLIE PHANATICS

    • vin

      They already have a full OF, and an everyday DH in Kubel. I figured Thome would be able to get a job that could guarantee him more AB’s.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        I bet Kubel plays more OF. Remember, their full OF got a little less full in the Gomez/Hardy swap.

        Cuddyer, Span, Young, and… that’s it. Kubel will find time there in both corners.

        • Accent Shallow

          For all of Gomez’s faults, at least he could play the hell out of CF. Young-Span-Cuddyer is ugly, and it gets uglier with Kubel in the corners.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

            Meh, Span’s pretty solid in CF.

            • pete

              and kubel’s better than young in left, I think

  • mustang

    Why I’m happy NOT to be a Mets fan.

    Don’t ask me why, but all winter I have been defending the Mets to a Yankees fan friend of my who hates them. After today I quit how can a big market team lose out to the Giants (Bengie Molina), Padres (Jon Garland), and A’s (Ben Sheets)?
    Are they kidding me?
    They are going to suck and they deserve every single lost.
    Sooo happy I’m a Yankees fan.

    • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

      I don’t even think the Jason Bay was a good signing either. Holliday would be soooo much better.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        Agreed. Even at the increased cost and contract length. Overpaying for Holliday is better than giving 4 or 5 years to JayRayBay.

        • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

          But with the money saved on getting Bay, they can now waste money on some other mediocre, overpaid veteran.

          Fits their M.O.

        • Tom Zig

          Holliday’s decline years will also not be as ugly as Jason Bay’s decline years.

          Ask the Mets to make a decision, and they’ll surely make the wrong one.

          • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

            Exactly. When I’m confronted with even a semi-difficult decision, I ask myself “What would Omar Minyana do?”

            When sober, I do the opposite of what I think the esteemed Mets GM would do. When drunk, I purchase leopard-print dress coats, hookers with dentures, deep fried peanut butter chips, 24 karat gold Pogo Sticks, and apartment buildings in Peter Cooper Village.

            Bit of a mixed bag.

      • Accent Shallow

        Ehhh, I don’t think the Bay signing was that bad. No, he’s not a good defender, but he can hit. (Although the K uptick in ’09 may be a bad sign.) I’ve long felt Holliday was overrated, both by difficulty of park adjusting for Coors, and by the fact that UZR loves his defense.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          The overrated Matt Holliday without the benefit of Coors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason Bay

    • mustang

      Seriously how do they sell this winter this team to their fans?

      Come see the Mets we did only one thing to make us better.

      The Mets big market team with a small market head.

      The Mets pray for us.

      • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

        It is a lovely area of Queens.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          Cabbie: What part of Queens you wanna go to?
          Prince Akeem: Take us to a common part.
          Cabbie: You’re in luck. If there’s anything Queens has a lot of… it’s common parts.

  • Riddle

    When do regular season tickets usually go on sale?

    • thurdonpaul

      i have been wondering that too

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    I’ve got a bet on with someone who shall remain nameless that Damon signs with the Yanks by Thursday.

    Any takers?

    • Tom Zig

      Friday

      • Tom Zig

        @ 6:03 PM

      • mustang

        I’m in on Friday about mid day.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I say Saturday. It’ll be in the morning during my MLBTR shift because the world will try to drive me crazy by having me post it at two sites simultaneously. Story of my life.

  • Accent Shallow

    I still can’t believe how no MLB team would take on a dominant force like Paige, color barrier or no color barrier. I guess that’s something I’ll just never be able to understand — the climate at the time.

    • Stu

      In 1943 Bill Veeck tried to buy the Phillies and then sign a team full of Negro League stars. The commissioner at the time (Kennisaw Mountain Landis)killed the deal. Before that the Pirates tried to sign Josh Gibson, a deal that was also killed. Didn’t matter how good a player was before 1947, sadly all that mattered was how dark they were.

      • Accent Shallow

        More people should read “Veeck as in Wreck.” Absolutely fascinating, and just plain fun. Definitely gave me more of an appreciation for baseball in the 40s-60s.

  • Accent Shallow

    So . . . Newsday going behind the paywall was a great decision, huh?

    http://www.observer.com/2010/m.....s-web-site

    • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

      Yeah, I read that earlier. 35 subscribers. In fairness, it’s skewed because the content is available to Cablevision subscribers, which is pretty much all of Long Island. Still, it looks to be a big bag of FAIL.

    • Steve H

      I hope that opens the eyes of more newspapers who plan on making people pay. It’s the damn internet, if one paper is going to make me pay, I’ll go one of 100,000 other places to get the same damn news.

      • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

        This is upsetting my journalism degree.

      • A.D.

        Well a few of the big ones go pay wall, and it becomes a little harder to do that. There’s the free papers in plenty of cities, however papers still get sold. Same can be true of media on the internet.

    • vin

      My favorite part of that story:

      “The web site redesign and relaunch cost the Dolans $4 million, according to Mr. Jimenez. With those 35 people, they’ve grossed about $9,000.”

      • A.D.

        In the short time that the Dolans have owned Newsday, it’s been a circus.

        Hmmm remind you of anything else that the Dolan’s put their name on?

  • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

    Looking at the Mets’ rotation and their overall impressive run of incompetence, we may be able to send them Igawa for Jenry Meija.

    But seriously, what’s their 1-5?

    Santana, Maine, Perez, Niese, Pelfrey?

    Yikes.

    • bexarama

      I think Niese/Nieve (I cannot keep them straight) is their #5 but yeah… yikes, that’s bad.

      They really should have gone for Sheets. I mean, everyone else on that team is injured, you might as well get someone that doesn’t suck when they’re not.

      • bexarama

        That said, they still might compete for the Wild Card because they have a good offense if Beltran plays and Wright figures out how to hit for power again, and it’s the NLOL. I don’t really think they’d make it to the playoffs because there are three better teams in their own division, and even if they did make it to the playoffs, I can’t see them getting past Round 1 with their awful pitching (minus Santana), but I don’t think they’ll be as totally embarrassing as they were last year.

        • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

          I’d be really surprised if the team makes it to the playoffs. Really surprised. They could have a legit lineup, but it really drops off after the core. Still, Castillo, Reyes, Beltran, Wright, Bay, Murphy, Francoeur, Blanco is a good NL lineup if healthy.

          Agreed that their division looks like the strongest in the NL next year, and on paper, the Mets don’t look even appear to be among the top three. That starting rotation looks bad. I mean really bad. The bullpen looks mediocre at best.

          The Mets are anywhere from total suckitude to mediocrity. But I think it would take a minor miracle for them to make the playoffs.

          I feel bad for Met fans.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

            They have to climb over 2 out of 3 teams that are much better (on paper) than they are in the Phils, Marlins, and Braves.

            I think their playoff chances are minimal, even if they’re fully healthy. And they’re not fully healthy.

    • pat

      If Escobar comes back healthy he could be pretty good in the NL.

  • bexarama

    I recently read The Yankee Years.

    I don’t know who I want to punch more:
    1. Torre, for doing this while he’s still actively managing and just coming off dumb throughout the book. I love what he did for the Yankees but dude, you can’t claim you were SO AWESOME at ego-managing then make it sound like one of the best players in the history of the game (that’d be A-Rod) on your team was SOOOO HORRIBLE OH POOR YOU.
    2. Verducci, for the whole damn thing. The hypocrisy and Red Sox/Theo Epstein ballwashing throughout the whole book is ridiculous. Example, you can’t talk about how genius Theo is for signing guys with high on-base percentages, then turn Cashman into some sort of monster for wanting to put guys with high on-base percentages on top of the order. The only good thing is that now I get to laugh at Verducci on MLBN when he has to say nice things about Alex and Cashman like he did last night (talking about the BBWAA awards and A-Rod’s “what’s next, the Good Guy award?” line) and tonight (talking about the trade for Granderson).
    3. Myself for reading it, because I knew it would be like this. :|

    • Accent Shallow

      In all fairness, as right as Cashman may have been, I’d rather the GM stay out of on-field affairs (like lineups). If your manager insists on putting out a subpar lineup, either take those players away or fire him.

      • radnom

        Yes and no.

        I would rather my boss make suggestions for my improvement than fire me without warning or do something passive aggressive.

        I think it is reasonable for such discussions to take place, as long as it is a discussion and its kept out of the media.

  • Dalelama

    Personal favorite retired Yankee you saw play? For me, Thurman Munson because he was so clutch and a leader, second place- Goose Gossage

    • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

      Anyone from 1978 or earlier. We haven’t seen a real Yankee since then.

      Also, Kiss rules!

      • Dalelama

        Anyone retired who you have seen

        • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

          Just Angel Berroa.

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      Small list for me. I guess I’ll say Moose and Bernie.

      • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

        Ditto. I’d add Cone to that.

      • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

        Moose ftw. It’s too bad he didn’t get in on the ring action this year..

    • vin

      Two words:

      Alvaro Espinoza.

      I also worshipped Ricky. Everyone loved Mattingly… that was too easy. Ricky and Alvaro were my guys.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

      Paul O’Neill.

    • Nady Nation

      Dion James.

    • DP

      Hal Chase.

    • JGS

      Scott Brosius. The grit factor was unreal

      • Dalelama

        Good choice Nettles also high on my list

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada
    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Jimmy Key.

      • JGS

        I could hit him

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Personal favorite retired Yankee you saw play?

      1.) Gerald “Ice” Williams
      2.) Hensley “Bam Bam” Meulens
      3t.) Deion “Prime-Time” Sanders
      3t.) Tim “Rock” Raines
      5.) Bernie “Feared” Williams

      What can I say? I like fast/strong guys with awesome nicknames. If you’re either A) historically underappreciated or B) flat out crappy but plucky and lovable, that’s a big help too.

      • Dalelama

        I remember when Meulens was the Montero of his day

      • TheALbEAST

        Charles “Chili” Davis

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          You just added value, my friend.

      • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

        Why do you hate white people?!

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          /Bo’d

        • TheALbEAST

          ^
          Brett “Grittner” Gardner

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

            I only had 5 spots.

            Andy “Stinky” Stankiewicz also just missed the cut.

            • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

              Can’t believe the New York combo of Coke ‘n Smoke was omitted.

              Huge oversight, my friend. Doc Gooden and Daryl Strawberry are legends.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                Huge oversight, my friend. Doc Gooden and Daryl Strawberry are legends.

                Agreed.

                Wait, you weren’t talking about in Colombia, were you? Well, yeah, how you meant it too, I guess.

      • ColoYank

        Murcer was an exciting player, offensively and defensively.

        Jackson was just charismatic. All also extremely clutch, even if it was apparent he had the biggest ego in the game.

        Munson – grittiest of all time. Saw a slow-motion shot of him taking a foul tip off his THROAT in the days before Yeager-protectors. He stayed on all fours for a few minutes before getting back behind the plate to catch the rest of the game.

        Winfield – the supreme athlete. Too bad the pitching sucked much of his tenure.

        Guidry – he painted it like nobody I ever saw. You couldn’t tell where the power was coming from, he was so diminutive on the mound. What a bat-misser. Very few like him.

        • thurdonpaul

          I agree with all of that, except for jackson, i never liked him. Way to much hot-dog for me and back then i could have played right field as bad as he did.

    • thurdonpaul

      thurman, donnie, paulie. like my name says :)

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        Here all along I thought your name was Paul Thurdon, Attorney at Law.

        • thurdonpaul

          i wish, then i would be rich. attorneys have it made (ducking).

    • scoopemup

      #7…you should have seen him when healthy.Thurman comes next,followed by Whitey Ford.

  • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

    So Duanel Jones, $1.3 mil. 3B IFA signing by the Giants, has had his deal voided due to a failed drug test.

    I was wondering if anyone knew anything about him. Scouting reports and stuff?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I don’t know anything, but if he got seven figures, he’s super legit.

      • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

        Think the Yanks should take a long look? One would imagine they could probably get him and Cyclops Mateo for a total of $1.5 million or less, right?

        • Hughesus Christo

          So you hear “failed drug test” and get excited, eh?

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

            No.

            I hear “contract voided” and get excited, however.

            11 teams passed on Warren Sapp and 19 teams passed on Randy Moss because they failed drug tests. Ask those teams if they regret those choices.

            • Hughesus Christo

              Do you have any idea what the drug was? GIVE ME YOUR SOURCES.

              I’m going to go out on a crazy limb and say it wasn’t the ganj.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                I’m going to go out on a crazier limb and say I don’t really care.

                He’s a talent. Sign him. If it turns out he’s an irredemable psychopath cokehead, cut him later.

                • Hughesus Christo

                  /notmymoney

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  Futhermore, how old is the kid? Somewhere between 15-19? Experimenting with drugs at that age should not be a life sentence of “This kid is a bad apple, stay the hell away”.

                  Kids make mistakes and do dumb shit. Many of them stop doing dumb shit as they get older.

                  An teen IFA failing a drug test isn’t enough to make me stay away.

                • Hughesus Christo

                  What if he is on Venom. Would you be okay with that? Where is your conscience?

                  /wasprobablytheroids

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  I think he’d need to stab a guy or something to be not worth pursuing.

                  Any drug, even steroids, that he ingested/snorted/smoked/shot up/freebased/etc. to himself, of his own free will and volition, is not a permanent and dangerous character flaw.

                  He’s a teenager. I did crazy shit as a teenager, including illicit drugs and dangerous acts. It didn’t define who I was permanently.

                • Hughesus Christo

                  But you weren’t an aspiring pro athlete goosing your performance by using drugs that you (presumably) won’t be able to use for while on my team.

                • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

                  Exactly. If the other 3B prospect beats his murder charge, we should be all over that shit too.

                  His talent —and I’m going to guess it’s immense because of the large signing bonus —trumps him failing any drug test. Plus, he’s likely much more affordable because it’s scared off some teams.

                  I don’t care if he ingested Ozzie Osbourne. If we can sign him and he performs well, he’s easily worth the risk. If we sign him and he flops, his talent is still greater than the sum of the risk.

                  I’m not an actuary, but that’s pretty clear.

                • Accent Shallow

                  You mean Angel Villalona? He’s probably the most extreme example of prospect gurus overvaluing youth — some of them ranked him over Montero after 2008, even a) Montero destroyed the Sally League, while Villalona was merely good, and b) they had similar (ish) hitting tools. Their reasoning was that merely competing was better than dominating, when Villalona was 8 months younger. (Nevermind that Montero was very young for the league, himself)

  • Ivan

    How bout them Knicks!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    I finally bought Daisy by Brand New and I’m about to give it a first listen–anyone else pick it up/have impressions?

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno
    • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

      I’m here for you, buddy. It’s generally not my style of music (I’m more of a top-40, teenybopper listener), but it was a lot more similar to The Devil and God… than it was Deja or YFW.

      It’s fairly similar to songs like “Jesus Christ,” “Handcuffs,” and “Welcome to Bangkok.” It also has a bit of a Pinback sound to it, with maybe a touch of Built to Spill.

      Overall, it’s good, but not great.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        Yeah, it’s definitely more TDAG which I don’t mind ’cause I really liked that album (though I wish they used more of the demo tracks rather than the instrumental tracks).

        I’m about halfway through Daisy now and I’m not loving it or hating it. I feel as if they’re trying to go for a new/different sound on just about every song, which is admirable but I think the effort is taking away from the quality of the songs a bit.

        • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

          Yeah, one of the problems is there are no standout songs. Nothing that really gets you going. It’s a collection of interesting but underwhelming songs, and good-not-great songs.

          It rates out as good, but I wish they’d gone in a different direction, something closer to Deja Entendu.

          And I say this as a huge Pinback fan.

          • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

            It rates out as good, but I wish they’d gone in a different direction, something closer to Deja Entendu.

            I think we’re going to wish this with every Brand New album. Nothing will ever match DE.

          • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

            Alright, I finished it and I’m very underwhelmed. It’ll probably take me another two or three listens before I get really into it, but first impression, very meh. Maybe I’m just looking for something that isn’t there anymore in terms of this band. Oh well.

            • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

              Yeah, I’d give it a C+/B-, but it’s better a few listens in.

              I think you’re right that they’ve jumped the shark and are no longer going to be etching toward a Deja sound. Too bad. I wasn’t a fan of YFW, and am okay with the newer sound, but would prefer something different.

              What sort of stuff do you like?

              Quick two, I’d recommend TV on the Radio and Animal Collective. And because I can’t help myself, Owl City.

              • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

                In terms of new stuff, really nothing. This is the first new album I’ve bought since Say Anything’s In Defense of the Genre or The Starting Line’s Direction. For the last two years or so, I’ve put absolutely zero effort into finding new music. It’s kinda sad. Mostly, I just pump the old stuff I loved years ago that I’ll never get back.

                • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

                  I’m not a snob or anything, but I listened to Say Anything, TSL, Brand New, stuff like that in high school. I must say though, I grew a bit bored with the same sound after a while.

                  Quick list of bands to check out (take or leave)

                  A-J:

                  Amadou & Mariam
                  Andrew Bird
                  Animal Collective
                  Architecture in Helsinki
                  Atmosphere
                  Brandtson
                  Cat Power
                  Cherryholmes
                  The Coral
                  Crooked Still
                  Cunninlynguists
                  Deerhunter
                  Emily Wells
                  The Feeling
                  Fionn Regan
                  Fleet Foxes
                  The Format
                  Friendly Fires
                  Frou Frou
                  Fun.
                  Gabriel Rios
                  Girl Talk
                  Gogol Bordello
                  Gomez
                  Grace Potter & The Nocturnals
                  The Hush Sound
                  i am jen
                  Immortal Technique
                  Iron & Wine
                  Islands
                  Jem
                  The Jealous Sound
                  Joshua Radin
                  Justin Connor
                  Jump Little Children

                • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

                  I have a Brandston album sitting around here somewhere. I’ll have to dig it up. I have at least heard of, and listened to some, most of those bands/artists. I’ve just gotta be a lot less lazy about finding new music.

                • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

                  Torrent tons of shit in one night and use a rainy day to sort through things.

                  I think you’d dig The Hush Sound and Fun. the most.

                  My personal favorites right now are Amadou & Mariam (blind couple from Africa), Crooked Still (bluegrass/folk), Iron & Wine (dark acoustic, I suppose), and Gogol Bordello (Ukrainian polka punk rock).

                  The only album I really liked from Brandtson was Send Us a Signal, but I thought it was really solid pop punk.

  • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

    When I first saw Venus Williams’s Australian Open dress, I thought, “Wait, where’s her underwear?”

    • JGS

      it’s a little disturbing

    • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

      Could you imagine the handjobs she could give? I’d fear it would detach, but oh boy, it would be an experience.

      • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

        Even considering you, I still did not expect that.

        • Master of all Trades

          Would you be happier if it were Roddick?

          • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

            What did that have to do with what I said to JMK?

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              This will end badly.

        • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

          Really? She’s totally hittable, and I’d bet she’d be better than a seasoned porn star in that arena. Any girl that can swing something that hard and quick has strong hands and wrists, good coordination and excellent form.

          That’s a handy winner.

          • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

            Oh, I didn’t mean to imply that Venus wasn’t attractive or anything of the sort (though for me, I’m more of a Serena lover) but for some reason, I had one of those “Wait where did that come from?” laughs.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              (though for me, I’m more of a Serena lover)

              That.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha7pwjDz1u4 (safe-ish)

              • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

                I’ll agree with you guys that Serena is more attractive. Her ass is crazy; it doesn’t even look semi-natural, but hey, who cares?

                I would let her throw me around. Oh yeah.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  Her ass is crazy; it doesn’t even look semi-natural, but hey, who cares?

                  It bounces like it’s 100% natural, though.

                  /assconnoisseur’d

          • Dalelama

            You think she would use two hands…LOL

  • Ivan

    If the Nets get John Wall, what would the Nets do with Harris?

    • SamVa

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related (safe)

      If the Nets get John Wall… I may become a Nets fan.. that kid is ridiculous.

      The PG for my high school team is pretty good friends with him and they were texting today and Wall wished him good luck in his game tonight… just thought that was cool

      • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

        I’d think they’d look to trade him for a guy they could pair with Lopez in the post, or another pick to just assemble as much pure talent as possible.

        I’ve been to a few Net games this year and they’re just sad, so I’d love to see them grab Wall. Imagine, for just a moment, a lineup featuring Brook Lopez, John Wall, and Lebron. You could pair those three with two guys from a decent 8th grade AAU team and it would be exciting.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      If the Nets get John Wall, what would the Nets do with Harris?

      SCENE: 1984 NBA Draft
      Blazers GM Stu Inman: I’m torn on who we should take this draft.
      Indiana Coach Bobby Knight: Take Michael Jordan. He’s the best player in this field, by far.
      Inman: But we already have lots of wing players. We need a center.
      Knight: Then take Jordan and play him at center.

      … aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand, SCENE!

      That’s a true story, btw. Paraphrased, but accurate. Inman didn’t take Knight’s advice. He should have.

      Take the best player. Sort the shit out afterwards.

      • Steve H

        Take the best player. Sort the shit out afterwards.

        Especially in basketball. It’s not like picking up a 2nd QB because he’s the best guy on the draft board.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        Take the best player. Sort the shit out afterwards.

        Nothing to add.

    • Hughesus Christo

      Since Devin Harris isn’t good, who cares?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada
  • Reggie C.

    ARGH … Knicks are getting sloppy with the ball.

  • Ori M

    Bring back Bernie for LF 2010?

  • Alex S

    wow this guys makes yankee fans look bad

    http://answers.yahoo.com/quest.....551AAHnEBo

    • bexarama

      It’s Yahoo Answers, it makes humanity look bad.

      (Please don’t sign Papelbon, Yankees. I know I’ll root for pretty much whoever is on the team, but that would be… difficult)

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        I concur with this statement.
        You thought A-Rod had pressure? Whoever replaces Mo will be dealing with HELL.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    My goodness does that Katy Perry chick look amazing on American Idol.

    • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

      +1000
      Agreed.

    • Steve H

      Damn, I have two things recording so I can’t watch anything right now. She’s sneaky hot.

    • pete

      my friend stole her shoe. true story. frickin weirdo.

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      She’s really, really hot, but damn that woman’s a bitch.

    • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

      Meh. SHE HAS SHARP KNEES. WOULD NOT HIT!

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        She too skinny for you?

        • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

          Only the boobs.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        /meme’d

  • Steve H

    So as much as I led the Ben Sheets brigade earlier in the offseason, I never expected him to get $10 mil guaranteed. While I certainly consider it overpaying, I still think it’s a good deal for the A’s. They have a ton of young pitching, and if he’s pitching well and they are out of contention, I’m sure they’d be able to trade him pretty easily. And if he shits the bed, while it is $10 million, it’s only for 1 year. Though does anyone else think if the Yankees guaranteed him $10 million after missing a season, we’d see 10,000 articles about how the Yankees continue to ruin the game with their outlandish spending?

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      It’s pretty neat what the A’s do. So long as your not concerned with winning. Signing Sheets is great, at the worst they lose a 10 million dollars. At the best, they trade for young talent or let him go to FA for multiple years and they gain draft picks.

      • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

        ugh. *you’re

      • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

        Agreed. Good long-term strategy.

  • DP
    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I won’t believe it until he signs somewhere else. It’s just posturing.

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      He’s been saying that, in a round about way, for months.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        Maybe it means something. Maybe it means nothing.

        /poignantsoundingstatementthatisactuallyaworthlesstautology’d

    • Steve H

      And he didn’t really rule him out. He said he’s too expensive. That can change.

    • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

      He’s a ninja. We have no idea what he’s really thinking.

    • Peter

      idk if Hock’s quote is wrong…or Cash gave Marc Craig a different quote. but this is from Marc Craig’s twittter

      “Johnny’s physical abilities exceed our financial abilities at this point in time.”

      the ‘at this point in time’ always seems to be a Cashman’s little tell.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        “Johnny’s physical abilities exceed our financial abilities at this point in time.”

        That’s strangely worded.

        Unless he’s talking about Johnny’s physical abilities to stuff dollars into his pockets, it should be phrased differently or it’s nonsensical.

        • Hughesus Christo

          I think he’s taking a shot at Boras.

  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    Yasser Gomez.

    Yadel Marti.

    WTF happened to these dudes? I wanted Yasser Gomez so bad during the season last year then forgot about him. I’m getting back on the bandwagon. He’s 29 years old, Yasser to teh LF!!

    Get on that Cash.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      (unwraps burrito, wipes down microwave)

      • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

        Heh seriously though. They haven’t been in the news at all, someone has got to at least invite to camp, right?

        • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

          Man I’m full of fail tonight.

          *invite them to camp.

      • Steve H
      • Steve H

        Yankees fans that want Montero in the majors on opening day.

        http://tinyurl.com/ya4jfxg (safe)

  • Stormrider6

    I have a Fantasy Baseball question for any of you experts out there. I’m playing in a league for the first time this year, and I don’t want to mess up my draft. Right now, I’m basing my draft strategy on WAR, but not just the straight projected WAR value. I want to find or create a draft tool which shows by position the marginal increase between players so I can choose the greatest for each position available at the time. Since there’s no defensive value, I want to focus on offense only.

    Is there anything like this available anywhere (preferably free), or do I need to do the legwork myself?

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      Step 1: Pick Al/Albert/Mauer/HanRam/Pablo/M-Cabs.

      Step 2: Fughettaboutit

      • Stormrider6

        Step 3: …

        Step 4: Profit?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        Step 2: Fughettaboutit

        Total domination.

      • DP

        How did Pablo make it onto that list?

        • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

          He’s a freak. He tore it up this winter. He’s a year older and their offense is better. You could argue he doesn’t belong there but I predict big things for him in his second year.

        • pat

          .330/.387/.556 with 25 HR, 22 years old

          Kid is on his way to stardom.

          • DP

            So we’re saying after one (very) good year, he’s equal to 4 (soon to be all 5) players that are on the fast track to the HOF?

            • pat

              Of course not, but he is certainly worthy of being selected in the top half of the first round of a fantasy draft.

              • pat

                Depending on how many people are in the draft.

                • DP

                  Meh, I’d take my chances with Braun, Utley, Prince, Kemp, Longoria, Teixeira, Wright, and Howard (at least) before I even considered Pablo. But, to each his own, I suppose.

    • AndrewYF

      Don’t go by WAR, because fantasy baseball does not care about defense. Go by VORP, my friend. Go by VORP.

      • Stormrider6

        Thanks, man. I guess that there’s no draft package like the one I am looking for, so I will make one myself when I get some time. I’ll see if I can post it somewhere for others once its done.

  • JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

    I’ll take the rapists for a thousand.

    http://www.onlineathens.com/st.....6715.shtml (SFW, but strange)

    • Steve H

      Aw, hell, let’s go nuts, “Swords” for $48,000.

    • Peter

      Rapist upon realizing his mistake, “Well played sir, well played”

  • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

    The big series will be that Boston series at home from August 6-9.

    • Steve H

      Clinching the division with a sweep?

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        Wins 97-100.

  • http://www.MeetKatyPerry.com MEET KATY PERRY CONTEST!

    Have to say, thanks unbelievably for your site!!
    Pretty rare to find a good blog which isn’t just trying to scam you anymore :P

    I’ve already written it down so I can come back to it! :D