Open Thread: Win a trip to Cooperstown

January 14, 2010 by Benjamin Kabak 120 Comments

So here’s a fun little contest for your open thread tonight. The Cooperstown Cookie Company has announced a sweepstakes that will run through April 16. The prize? A free two-night trip to Cooperstown for the winner and a companion. Also included is a membership to the Hall of Fame, meals and some non-baseball- and baseball-related prizes from some of the upstate town’s local merchants.

Entering is easy. Just head on over to this page and take a short survey. More info is available here, and the hat tip for this one goes to David Pinto at Baseball Musings. He took a break from his Sisyphean and alphabetical project of posting a short piece on every single baseball player in the Majors Leagues. For more on Cooperstown and the Hall, check out the photos from Mike’s recent visit.

In local action tonight, the Senators are visiting the Rangers at the Garden, and the Devils are facing off against the Coyotes at 9 p.m. MTV is airing two episodes of the critically-acclaimed Jersey Shore this evening, and Conan should be in fine form again come 11:35 p.m. Be good to each other.

JMK The Overshare

Season premiere of Manhunters on A&E at 10. And how can you not love Jersey Shore? Great night of TV.
- http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
  
  Jersey Shore is actually pretty cool. It looked dumb at first but seeing my first episode last week with one of the guys beating the ever living crap out of a random stranger and Snooki getting punched everywhere made me love the show instantly.
  - http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/091102/GAL-09Nov02-2999/media/PHO-09Nov02-185373.jpg Drew
    
    http://www.hulu.com/watch/116557/saturday-night-live-update-snooki#s-p1-sr-i3
  - JMK The Overshare
    
    I wasn’t being facetious. Tonight is an excellent TV night.
    - http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
      
      Oh I know. I was just giving my opinion since I hear a lot of bad rep for the show.
      - JMK The Overshare
        
        As a New Jerseyian, I’m used to hearing people absolutely crap on the state, which to me, is somewhat unjustified. Sure, there are parts that are fairly unattractive, like all of the cities, the Meadowlands, anything near Newark, Sleazeside Heights (where the ocean is polluted by needles and Axe Body Spray), but I rarely see guidos. Almost never. Well, not ones that overtly douchey. And I’m from the area where The Real Housewives of New Jersey are.
        
        I’m not going to sit here and proclaim Jersey as the greatest state ever, but it’s not nearly as bad as people think it is. The one’s who really hate on it are the ones who have been around the airport and Turnpike. The southern part with the horse farms are nice, some parts of the Shore are great, affluent suburbs with top-notch school systems centered around two of the largest cities in the country, and an unreal amount of sluts. There are some pluses.
        
        Oh, and we have more assholes per capita than any other state. Suck on that, Massachusetts.
        
        P.S. Most true guidos are from Staten Island and Queens.
        
        pete
        
        Nassau and Suffolk county too
        
        http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
        
        Sure, there are parts that are fairly unattractive, like all of the cities, the Meadowlands, anything near Newark, Sleazeside Heights (where the ocean is polluted by needles and Axe Body Spray), but I rarely see guidos. Almost never. Well, not ones that overtly douchey. And I’m from the area where The Real Housewives of New Jersey are.
        
        I’m a New Jersyian too and I agree. It does get somewhat of a bad rep and sure it’s undeserved. And as you said I hardly see guidos in my area. I see a lot of Italians but not any actual stereotypical guidos.
http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

Go to Cooperstown in the winter.

Seriously. No one is there and you can get right up next to everything.

Also, swords.

http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com/2008/02/hope-memory/
- Steve H
  
  S words?
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/091102/GAL-09Nov02-2999/media/PHO-09Nov02-185373.jpg Drew

35 nights until P&C report.

What will be the biggest story in 36 days?

Joba V. Phil?

Jesus in camp?

C-Grand, new Yankee CFer?

Javy’s back with NYY?

Grit vs X-Man/Reed/Hoff/Reid/(Fill in LFer here)?

Some unforeseen circumstance?

I guess I’ll roll with Joba V Phil, it’s the safe pick.
- http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)
  
  Honestly?
  
  I hope that the biggest story is STILL the Jets winning the Super Bowl.
  
  Realistically?
  
  Something unforseen.
  - JMK The Overshare
    
    No way. The biggest story is which one of the Jersey Shore kids get their own VH1 reality love show. My money’s on The Situation, but I suppose JWOWW has a good shot, too.
    
    Jets? Hah!
    
    No surprise for the Yanks ST story. It, again, will be Joba v. Phil.
- pete
  
  the most exciting part of ST will likely be the extended (in relation to previous years) amount of time that Jesus spends there. Other than that, not much that comes out of ST, other than players getting up to game-speed, really means anything. Joba vs. Phil is (presumably) not the kind of thing that should be decided in ST. And Grit vs. whomever is not going to be decided in full at any point during the season, let alone in the spring. I’m fairly certain it’ll be a year-long “competition” wherein whichever of the two is playing the best is the starter, and when things are equal, matchups will determine who plays. The rest of those may be “stories” that get written for ESPN or yankees.com or the likes, but there really isn’t much to discuss in regards to Javy/Granderson
  - http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/091102/GAL-09Nov02-2999/media/PHO-09Nov02-185373.jpg Drew
    
    I do think C-Grand is a bigger story than you’re giving it credit for.
    
    He’s the best CFer we’ve had since Bern(not including JD because he was basically a LFer starting in 2004).
    - JMK The Overshare
      
      Don’t call him that! His nickname is “C-Note.”
    - pete
      
      well yeah, it’s important, but what is there really to be said about it?
      - http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/091102/GAL-09Nov02-2999/media/PHO-09Nov02-185373.jpg Drew
        
        This is the machine that is the WS Champ NY Yankees. Stories will be flying out of Big Stein field like crazy.
mikeymike

Hey Eric Byrnes looks to be out there…cheap too.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/01/dbacks-sign-adam-laroche.html
- http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/091102/GAL-09Nov02-2999/media/PHO-09Nov02-185373.jpg Drew
  
  11 million dollars? Even if they pick up 9 million and we give them a box of balls it wouldn’t be “cheap.”
  - Jose
    
    He would be cheap, that is the whole idea of being released. You are freeing up a roster spot for nothing in return.
    
    Remember when the Tigers released Gary Sheffield? They still payed him his $14 million salary, while the Mets signed him to a $400k contract.
- JMK The Overshare
  
  Only if we can pay for Bobby Bonilla ’til 2030.
- http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
  
  If they go through with it and release him, then hell fucking yeah bring him in. Zero risk, super easy to back out of.
  - Mater of all Trades
    
    Mike Axisa = Voice of Reason.
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

This has to be posted. Has to.

Don’t Argue With The Gay Flight Attendant

My flight was being served by an obviously gay flight attendant, who seemed to put everyone in a good mood as he served us food and drinks.

As the plane prepared to descend, he came swishing down the aisle and told us “Captain Marvey has asked me to announce that he’ll be landing the big scary plane shortly, so lovely people, if you could just put your trays up, that would be super.”

On his trip back up the aisle, he noticed an extremely well-dressed and exotic young woman hadn’t moved a muscle. “Perhaps you didn’t hear me over those big brute engines but I asked you to raise your trazy-poo, so the main man can pitty-pat us on the ground.”

She calmly turned her head and said, “In my country, I am called a Princess and I take orders from no one.”

To which the flight attendant replied, without missing a beat, “Well, sweet-cheeks, in my country I’m called a Queen, so I outrank you. Tray up, Bitch.”
- JMK The Overshare
  
  Just…awesome.
  - Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)
    
    For some reason I thought you’d like it, JMK.
- pete
  
  what is that from? frickin hilarious
  - Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)
    
    I found it on Stumbleupon. Unfortunately I lost the link.
    the link.
    
    Just goodsearch the title.
- http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)
  
  WIN.
  - Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)
    
    If I met this man, I think I’d break into spontaneous applause.
DP

Fantasy question:

Who’s more valuable: Berkman or Morales. That said, would you trade either for Verlander? If so, who?
- DP
  
  Berkman or Morales?*
- JMK The Overshare
  
  I’m going to guess you’re referring to Kendry Morales. Berkman plays the more valuable position and has a larger sample of quality years, but Kendry is younger and should be more productive going forward. He also has a more attractive contract.
  
  Would I trade either for Verlander? Both. Is that even a serious question?
  - pete
    
    i think you may have missed the “fantasy” part of his question. i still agree, though. A guy who’ll put up a good ERA, challenge for Ws, and prolly lead the league in Ks is worth more than a 1B with good avg and power, since there are more 1Bs who hit for good avg and power than there are Verlander-type pitchers. Felix, Timmy, and that’s pretty much it.
    - JMK The Overshare
      
      I read fantasy in the context of “this will never happen,” not “fantasy baseball league.”
      
      I don’t play fantasy baseball, I do fantasy dating (I rarely finish “first” in my league, so I have no idea.
      - DP
        
        Yes, fantasy baseball. Though I’m curious about the set-up of your fantasy dating league.
        
        JMK The Overshare
        
        Whoever doesn’t get “hand party” finishes first.
        
        JMK The Overshare
        
        That may be a double entendre.
    - DP
      
      OK so which one should I trade? Berkman or Kendry?
      - pete
        
        they’re about equal. I’d try to trade Berkman, since Kendry can probably give you a higher avg. If whoever’s offering doesn’t go for that, though, there’s nothing wrong w/ trading Kendry for Verlander when you still have Berkman at 1B
  - DP
    
    They both play 1B. And yes, it’s serious. Verlander is probably due for a WHIP, K, and W regression next year.
    - pete
      
      I dunno. I’d still go for it. Berkman is getting up there in age and his power might be declining, and Morales is probably due for a regression in avg, and could be in for a big drop in HR. Verlander is pretty much a lock for at least 200 Ks, and is probably going to maintain that mid-3s ERA in the AL-Central. WHIP may go up a tad, Ws may go down, but you’d be buying super-high on Morales when there are quite a few quality 1Bs available in every draft.
      
      If this is already your team, then certainly offer one of them for Verlander if the person is willing to accept it – they both play 1B, so you can lose one and still have a high 2nd tier 1B left. That’s a no-brainer to me.
      - DP
        
        Well it’s a keeper league- I’m probably keeping McCann, Morales, Phillips, Rollins, Wright, Sizemore, Berkman, Gallardo (unless I make a trade). Very hitting heavy as you can see.
    - JMK The Overshare
      
      Hmm…hadn’t realized he switched to 1st…in 2005. Massive FAIL on my part.
    - Steve H
      
      For 1 year I’d go with Berkman, definitely more of a sure thing. Fun fact, Berkman had a career low BABIP last year and still out ops+’d Morales, while doing it with a much higher OBP. I know those likely aren’t stats in your league, but I think they do say something about what Berkman will do in 2010.
JMK The Overshare

Here’s a question for you guys.

What’s the most depressing place you’ve been to within the United States? For me, it’s Gary, Indiana.

Go.
- http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak
  
  Detroit, Michigan or Manning, South Carolina.
  - Marcus
    
    Manning, SC? How in the world did you end up there?
    - http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak
      
      Hurricane evacuation from Pawleys Island in 2004. We had to drive inland. That’s where we wound up. It was pretty desolate.
- Steve H
  
  Utica, NY. When I was a kid my dad left me in the car (which didn’t lock) with my baby sister at a convenience store in Utica, I was scared shitless, and it was the middle of the day.
  - JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex
    
    Ever see a movie called Driving Mona? It’s a terrible movie, but it does illustrate how freakin’ weird and white trash upstate New York is.
    - Steve H
      
      Sounds like porn to me.
      - JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex
        
        It does have Casey Affleck in it, for what it’s worth.
- http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
  
  I’ll go with wherever Gary Matthews Jr is playing.
  - JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex
    
    http://antzinpantz.com/kns/images/jul09/thats_racist_animated1.gif (SFW)
- http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
  
  Gary, for sure. I was going to say that before I even finished reading your comment.
- http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
  
  Boston, Massachusetts.
  
  I keed, I keed. Though I barely remember the palce going there when
  - http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090810&content_id=6355462&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy JobaWockeeZ
    
    FAIL pressing the reply button…
    
    Anyways I barely remember the place seeing as I last went there when I was 4 or 5…
    - JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex
      
      Boston’s actually a pretty neat city (I feel weird saying it). It’s not nearly as kickass as NYC, but hey, it’s pretty okay.
      
      You should take a trip up there.
- http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)
  
  Parts of Syracuse, NY.
  - Jose
    
    If that is the most depressing place you have been to, you must not travel very much.
    - Meat Loaf
      
      I just finished a book on the education system in Syracuse, and it explains how Syracuse has absolutely fallen apart. Shes right… it does suck.
- DP
  
  Trinidad in DC. (You said place, not city)
- vin
  
  Lawton, OK
  
  I had the misfortune of going into the Wal-Mart there, too. Unfortunately we needed to get groceries, and if you need groceries in Lawton, you got to the Wal-Mart. Spending a few days in that town probably took years off my life.
  - Stormrider6
    
    I’ve been there – it’s right outside of Fort Sill, where I went to Basic Training. Even after 9 weeks of seclusion, I realized that place was a hole. However, its still not as bad as Binghamton, NY, where I grew up. Second least amount of sunshine in the US, no economy, and cold miserable winters.
- pat
  
  9th Ward NOLA
JMK The Overshare

Once Tiger Woods returns from a local Bennigan’s, ho in tow, he plans on DONATING A HOSPITAL TO HAITI?!

Wait, what?

Seriously.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/14/tiger-woods-haiti-hospita_n_423391.html
- Steve H
  
  Makes sense to me. Even if it’s just buying some goodwill, it’s still going to be a ridiculously huge help, whatever the intentions are. Good for him, maybe he can go to that hospital for his next STD test.
  - JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex
    
    Exactly. He probably doesn’t give a shit about them, but hey, if it helps, it helps.
- http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)
  
  They need it.
http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

The Joba vs Hughes competition looks to be about as legit as the Nady vs Swisher “competition” from last year. I seriously doubt Joba won’t get the #5 spot in the rotation.

-Joba has a deeper repertoire than Hughes, who is still pretty much a 2 pitch pitcher.

-Joba will have no innings restrictions whereas Phil will be at 140-150.

-Joba has more upside as a starter

-As great as Phil was last year, he still had some trouble with Lefty batters. That will be a bigger issue for him as a starter than it was as a reliever.

If all things are relatively equal, it will go to Joba. If Hughes pitches a little better than Joba does, Joba will still get the #5 spot. Hughes would have to absolutely blow Joba away in order to even make this a tough call.
- Jose
  
  Over/Under: Phil Hughes starts 8 games next year
  - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
    
    I wouldn’t be shocked if the two get flipped mid-season, assuming Joba is pitching poorly like he did down the stretch last year. All I’m saying is Joba has the cards stacked in his favor.
- Teix is the Man
  
  Agreed on all counts…I just hope Hughes gets enough starts to remain a starter.
  - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
    
    He could relieve for all of next year and still be a starter down the road, they’re not mutually exclusive. That’s a false either/or being presented by those who want him to start.
    
    He’s still only 23 years old, there’s plenty of time for him to become a starter, and his arm may benefit by keeping his innings down at this age.
    - JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex
      
      It would also be one more year he doesn’t build up his arm or develop a third pitch, which reduces his chance of becoming an effective ML starter.
- http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)
  
  Hughes seriously ran out of gas at the end last year, too.
  - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
    
    Mmmmmm. . I dunno. I thought his struggles in the post season had more to do with the same old problem with Phil, that he was simply trying too hard.
    
    One of these days, Phil is going to figure out that instead of showing your best fastball every time you throw it, it’s more effective if you save it for when you’re ahead in the count. Set the hitter up with a few lesser fastballs that you place somewhere that he can’t hurt you on. Less is more.
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

Evilest Empire, read this…

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1Hn3qL/www.ie.lspace.org/books/dawcn/dawcn-english.html

Fascinating.
http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

Ben Sheets To Throw For Teams Tuesday

11:49am: Ben Sheets will throw for teams Tuesday at the University of Louisiana at Monroe, reports ESPN’s Tim Kurkjian. Said Sheets: “They’re going to like what they see.” Kurkjian indicates six to ten teams have expressed interest, the Cubs included. Kurkjian believes a one-year deal with incentives is in order. He says to “keep an eye on Seattle,” given Jack Zduriencik’s familiarity with Sheets. The Mariners were first connected to Sheets on December 11th by Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports.

Kurkjian talked to Sheets about his year off from baseball, after the righty had flexor tendon surgery in February. Sheets feels “refreshed” and “fantastic,” and seems raring to go. He thinks he can regain his old form, adding “Watch, I’ll show ’em.”

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/01/ben-sheets-to-throw-for-teams-tuesday.html

I wouldn’t expect him to say anything else, but in his case I believe it. His comments tie in to his huge asking price, the surgery was the kind that pitchers bounce back from well, and you get the impression he’s going to have a big season for someone.
- JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex
  
  The Mets should grab him, methinks.
  - http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)
    
    That might make Citifield explode.
  - Jose
    
    Who are their #2 and #3? Maine and Pelfrey?
    - JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex
      
      As far as I know, yep.
      - Jose
        
        Ouch…
- Reggie C.
  
  If Jake Z. has the inside track on signing a “rejuvenated” Sheets , the Mariners won’t need much more offense than what’s on the team now to take the AL West crown from the Angels. What an off-season would that be for Seattle …
  - http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
    
    Yeah. Throw in the awful off season the Angels have had and you have to make them faves in the AL West.
countryclub

Adding my 2 cents to the previous thread:

If you just look at Ripken’s SS years, Jeter has a much higher avg, much higher OBP & a barley higher SLG. And even though Cal is considered more of a power hitter, he only averaged a few more hr’s per year and just 4 more rbi per year.
JMK aka The Overshare’s Garden Apartment Complex

Kanye West alternative video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSpCf8-AE94&feature=player_embedded

It’s pretty good.
- http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/091102/GAL-09Nov02-2999/media/PHO-09Nov02-185373.jpg Drew
  
  ha. That dude is funny as hell.
Tom Zig

Saw this game posted on a facebook status:

http://www.atom.com/fun_games/tiger_woods_defense/?xrs=eml_121709
- http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/091102/GAL-09Nov02-2999/media/PHO-09Nov02-185373.jpg Drew
  
  ha. sick game.
  
  Second try I got a 26. 5 ho’s in 1, a 7, 8, 4 and 2.
  - Steve H
    
    I can’t believe it didn’t actually say ho in 1 when I got them though. I got a 29, though I’m not done playing yet.
http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist

Pending Pinstripes is getting to the good parts of their Prospect Profiles series. They did (#16)Dellin Betances, (#15)Andrew Brackman and (#14) DJ Mitchell just went up tonight.

http://pendingpinstripes.net/
Reggie C.

With Jose Valverde signing the with the Tigers, the #19 pick of the first round goes to the perpetually cheap-ass Astros. Well, this bums me out. With the 20th pick of the draft, the RS are now guaranteed to sign the next Porcello or Jacob Turner should one of similar ilk emerge.

The Tigers at least were good to keep a Turner and Porcello away from the Red Sox. I just don’t see why the Tigers needed to sign a closer of Valverde’s quality, when the team’s 2008 draft pick (ryan perry) could’ve helped fortify the back-end. Why give up the 20th pick??
- http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Nostra-Artist
  
  Don’t be so sure about the Astros. McLayne announced the other day that the team is up for sale, and a new owner will likely want to come in and spend some cash.
  - Reggie C.
    
    Until stewardship of the ballclub changes hands and a new vision of rebuilding is actually communicated, there’s no reason to think that the ‘Stros are going to move away from its stance of adhering to MLB slot recommendations.
    
    The RS clearly had a good day.
http://www.twitter.com/james_dasilva James daSilva

The Cooperstown Cookie Company makes some good stuff. It’s over-the-top with the baseball themes, but hey, it is Cooperstown.

Kind of disappointing that I couldn’t find out about this from my old employer, the daily paper closest to Cooperstown. The locals aren’t in love with the crowds the Hall brings, but still, it’s a local startup done good. There aren’t many in upstate New York, as you can guess.

Cooperstown’s definitely worth a visit. Ignore most of the rest of the area, but check it out.
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

G-men hire Perry Fewell as d-coordinater.

http://www.giants.com/news/headlines/story.asp?story_id=43935

What do you think?
Steve H

As crazy as it sounds, I was looking over Mantle’s stats, and he’s better than I remember. Over a 10 year stretch, he led the league in OPS+ 8 times. The 2 times he didn’t he ops+’d 195 and 222. He led the league in OPS+ in 1959, yet managed to finish 17th in the MVP voting. Because he only knocked in 100 runs 4x, I think Mantle, believe it or not, was likely underrated in his time. He should have won the MVP in both ’60 and ’61 hands down over Maris, and probably should have won several more. The sabermetric community of today would absolutely love him as a player, and due to his high strikeout totals, and low RBI totals, was probably not loved as much by the old curmudgeons as he should have been. His worst career ops+ was 117, as a 19 year old, his next worst was 137. Wow.
- http://www.retire21.org Mike R. – Retire 21
  
  Add to that the fact that he seemed to be a plus defender in CF and you have my argument for why he’s one of the greatest players ever.
  - pat
    
    If I had to build a team and could use any player in Yankee history I’d take him first, over the Babe.
    - Trent
      
      Who would be your catcher. Yogi or Dickey?
      - pat
        
        Tough choice but I’d go with Yogi. Dickey has him beat in OBP and OPS+ but Yogi had almost twice as many HR and played many more games per season.
        
        To be honest, they’d both be admirable backups to THE JESUS.
    - Steve H
      
      I’d go Babe first, he was hitting more HR’s than whole teams, for years at a time. Though Mantle would probably be my 2nd pick (non-Melvin division of course).
      - pat
        
        You can’t really go wrong with either. Their b-ref pages are just ludicrous to look at. Straight up Nintendo numbers.
        
        Steve H
        
        Yeah, half the page is bold, ridiculous.
        
        The amazing thing about Babe is he hit more Hr’s on the road than at home in his career, so the whole short porch argument gets thrown out pretty quickly. Too bad those idiot Sox had to have him pitching all those years, his numbers would be even more ridiculous. He lead the league in HR’s his last 2 seasons with the Sox, and still managed to win 22 games.
  - Trent
    
    F*ckin A Peter Man!
Charlie

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4826840

josh johnson’s extended. dammit.
- Steve H
  
  With the Yankees money too….
  - chriskeo
    
    As a baseball fan, better to it be spent on Josh Johnson than pocketed by Loria.
    - Steve H
      
      Completely agree.
- Trent
  
  That doesn’t mean he won’t be traded anyway in the near future.
- A.D.
  
  Why is that a bad thing?
Steve H

I think Chuck Norris facts are more believable than Babe Ruth facts.

-At this point in his career already hit more homers than anyone in baseball history. And he was only 26 years old.

-When Babe Ruth hit 60 home runs in 1927, he hit 14% of all home runs in his league that year. For a player to hit 14% of all home runs today, he would have to hit over 300 home runs in one season.

-It was the last home run he would ever hit, number 714. At that point in baseball history, no other player had ever hit even half that many. It was a record that would stand for nearly four decades.

That is total domination.
- A.D.
  
  obscene
- pat
  
  Fughetaboutit.
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