Mar
02

Open Thread: Team bondage

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Al Aceves on a motorcycle, otherwise known as the greatest picture in the history of the universe. You can see the rest of the pics here.

Wait … that didn’t come out right.

A day before their Spring Training games start, the Yankees had what has apparently become their annual team bonding excursion. Last year they played pool, and this year the whole gang went to an arcade to relive their childhoods. A.J. Burnett won the Indy car game, Andrew Brackman won at skee-ball, and Royce Ring won at Pop-A-Shot. I had no idea what Pop-A-Shot was until I looked it up, and apparently it’s that basketball game where the hoop moves around. Never heard it called that before, but it was never my thing anyway.

“It was a great day,” said Mark Teixeira. “The fact that we get three or four hours not to have to worry about baseball and not have to compete on the baseball field, it was fun. Playing video games, we felt like kids again. It promotes a light-hearted atmosphere.

“The great thing about this kind of atmosphere is that there’s no veterans or rookies, starters or role players, Triple-A or Single-A; everyone is on the same playing field. We’re all having fun, really kind of letting our hair down and getting to know each other without competing on the field.”

I’m glad everyone had a blast today, because the baseball season is one really long grind. Hopefully they got their fun in now, because they’re going to be playing from tomorrow until October 4th, at the very least.

* * *

On to more serious business. Here’s your open thread for the night, but we first need to do something about the comments. There’s way too many memes and inside jokes going on around here, and worst of all they’re repeated like, ten times a thread. We need to put an end to that. It’s off-putting to new readers and commentors, which we don’t like.The more people that come to the site to talk intelligently about baseball, the better it is for everyone. Let’s scale it back a bit on that stuff and focus more on good old fashioned baseball talk, please. Here’s our commenting guidelines if you need a refresher.

Anyway, all three hockey locals are in action now that the Olympics are over. Anything goes, just be nice.

Photo Credit: NY Yankees

Categories : Open Thread
  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

    Open Thread: Team bondage
    By Mike Axisa

    Nelson Muntz (on exiting the movie Naked Lunch with Bart, Nelson, and Ralph): I can think of at least two things wrong with that title.

    /MQBB’d

    • Dirty Pena: The Triple Entendre

      Oh, look at you breaking the rules immediately.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        Heh. I actually responded before even reading the post.

        I feel bad now.

        (goes and sits in the corner)

        • Dirty Pena: The Triple Entendre
        • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering
          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

            “Other side of back panel also says Time Out”.

            Damn, yo. Rub that shit in, why don’t ya.

            • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

              It’s this or a suit with a giant “A” sewn on the back.

              • Bob Stone

                Really excellent.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    I would love to watch.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      (fights numerous urges to respond)

      • Bob Stone

        ietcvm

  • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

    It’s off-putting to new readers and commentors, which we don’t like.

    Back in my day, you join a blog and deal with pre-existing memes. Now a days, blog readers are a bunch of sissies.

    • Big Juan

      Haha.

      I remember what it was like when I started commenting, trying to understand all the chaos. It’s a bit overwhelming at first, but that much more fun when you’re in tune with all of it.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        It’s a bit overwhelming at first, but that much more fun when you’re in tune with all of it.

        Seth Meyers: Well, there might be qualities about John McCain you respect, but do you honestly believe that Gov. Sarah Palin is prepared to be Vice-President?

        Bill Clinton: Look… sometimes women will be uncomfortable doing something at first…

        I have found, with enough persuasion… they will come around.

      • About to get punched out by ya’ll

        I’ve been reading this blog for a couple years and even I’m sick of all the meme BS and inside jokes. the average thread is well more than half random BS, with a few (often ignored) actual comments regarding the post. Well played Mike.

        • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

          ..a (often ignored) few actual comments regarding the post.

          That couldn’t be further from actuality.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

    A.J. Burnett won the Indy car game, Andrew Brackman won at skee-ball, and Royce Ring won at Pop-A-Shot.

    At least Brackman can win at something. hard to believe hes good at skeeball since hes bad at pitching.

    Cashman cant be happy that he gave a 40 man spot to a skeeball champ.

    /YouKnowWho’d

    • Dirty Pena: The Triple Entendre

      Judging by the progression of your comments, I’d say you haven’t made it to the bottom of the post yet.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        At 7:06pm, EST, no, I hadn’t.

        (still shamed, begs for Axisa’s forgiveness)

    • Thomas

      I find it sad that Brackman, who played college basketball, couldn’t win the basketball game.

  • Christos

    The Mexican Gangster at his best.

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    YANKEE BASEBALL TOMORROW!!!!!!

    That’s an excellent pic of Aceves, but seeing Mo, Po, Tex and Jesus in one pic made me all happy inside.

    • bexarama

      Tex’s hair is still bad :(

      • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

        Unfortunately, there’s no rule about bad hair for the Yankees when it’s above the collar.

        • bexarama

          Are you the person that was talking about Tino’s marvelous hair? (apologies if that wasn’t you, you have no idea what I’m talking about, and you think I’m totally a weirdo) Because YES.

          • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

            I think I might have been that person. I usually bring it up at least once whenever Tino is discussed.

  • bexarama

    I posted this in last night’s open thread but at like 4 in the morning, so nobody answered it. So here’s your trivia for the night, I guess – guess who WARP (not WAR) had as the highest-rated pitcher in 2008. This pitcher also did better than every position player save Pujols, Berkman, Hanley, and Chipper.

    Hints:
    1. didn’t win the Cy Young in either league
    2. not CC (I added up his WARP from his Cleveland and Milwaukee and it still didn’t equal the total of this pitcher)

    Also, that is a BAD. ASS. picture of Acey.

    • Big Juan

      I answered. Erroneously. But I did answer.

      http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ent-788842

    • Christos

      no idea. do tell

      • bexarama

        You gotta guess. I’m not just telling. =P

    • Dirty Pena: The Triple Entendre

      Mussina?

      • bexarama

        nope.

    • Jose

      Johan Santana?

      • bexarama

        no.

        • Jose

          I’m surprised. I know he was second in VORP that year only to Cliff Lee.

          I’m going to go a different route. Is it a reliever? Brad Lidge had his perfect save season that year with a 225 ERA+.

          • bexarama

            Yes, it’s a reliever.

            No, it’s not Brad Lidge.

    • Johan Iz My Brohan

      Does he steal laptops?

      • bexarama

        Perhaps, but it’s not confirmed like it is with certain other pitchers.

      • bexarama

        Heh, Laptops was worth -1.3 WARP in 2008.

    • JGS

      Halladay?

      • bexarama

        nope.

        CLUE: Same league though.

    • Christos

      Volquez?

      • bexarama

        nuh-uh.

    • JGS

      Casey Kelly?

      • bexarama

        Obviously.

        (no.)

    • Dirty Pena: The Triple Entendre

      Mariano?

      • bexarama

        DING DING DING!!!!

        I was surprised. I knew he had an awesome year in 2008, but #1 overall? Ahead of so many position players? Whatever, Mo rules.

        • JGS

          wow, I totally didn’t pick up on the “2008″ part

      • Dirty Pena: The Triple Entendre

        Ponsner?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      Cliff Lee?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        Oh, didn’t win the Cy. Nevermind.

        Jon Lester?

      • Jose

        “didn’t win the Cy Young in either league”

    • Kevin G.

      Mo

      • bexarama

        You got it.

        • Christos

          DING DING DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER

    • JGS

      Verlander?

    • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

      JOhan?

    • The Sheepmeister

      Carl Pavano

      • bexarama

        I lol’ed

    • Big Juan

      Mo.

      • Big Juan

        Better late than never.

    • Christos

      Saunders? Frankie Rodriguez?

    • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

      Heh. As soon as I started thinking about 2008 and reading the pitchers exed out, Mo came to mind. The next comment I read–a correct guess.

    • bexarama

      For the record, the top 15 pictures according to WARP from 2008:
      1. Mo 8.1
      2. Lincecum 7.4
      3. CC combined for 7.1 b/w CLE and MIL
      4. Webb 6.8
      5. Johan, Cliff Lee, Ryan Dempster 6.5
      6. Peavy 6.4
      7. Haren 6.2
      8. Halladay 6.0
      9. Danks 5.8
      10. Hamels, Soria 5.7
      11. Volquez 5.5
      12. Aaron Cook 5.3
      13. Matt Cain 5.2
      14. Lowe 5.1
      15. Lester, Nolasco 5.0
      (Moose, Dice-K, Felix, and Greinke were all tied at 4.9.)

      WARP is a little weird (it obviously probably values relievers too much), but I just thought it was interesting.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        Thanks for the trivia, bexy.

        (hands her a tasty Pinstripe Mussina Dry™)

        • bexarama

          heh, that’s really a perfect name for a Mussina drink.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

            I give because I love.

  • Accent Shallow

    There’s a pic of Chris Garcia in there. Here’s hoping he didn’t injure himself.

    (Seriously, he’s already had soreness? I’d love to see what the guy can do if he’s ever healthy)

  • Dirty Pena: The Triple Entendre

    Wait, wait, wait, WAIT! Does this mean first game thread of the year?

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

      I can hardly contain myself

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Tomorrow? Yessir.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    Jeopardy is too easy.

    • JGS

      agreed

    • bexarama

      It’s either really easy or I know absolutely nothing out of any of the categories and I feel dumb.

    • JGS

      food traditions?

      • bexarama

        I GOT IT WOOOOOOO

        Except it was super, super easy, so yeah.

        • JGS

          I did too, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen that happen to someone before. Sucks for her

    • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

      Do you mean tonight or in general?

      • billbybob

        I took the online quiz to get on Jeopardy a few weeks ago and that shit was not easy. You truly needed encyclopedic knowledge.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          The test to get on the show is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY harder than the show itself.

          50 questions in 50 DIFFERENT TOPICS, 8 seconds per question. You need to get 40 right minimum to make it into the yearly pool, and that doesn’t even guarantee that you get selected for the show.

  • Accent Shallow

    On to more serious business. Here’s your open thread for the night, but we first need to do something about the comments. There’s way too many memes and inside jokes going on around here, and worst of all they’re repeated like, ten times a thread. We need to put an end to that. It’s off-putting to new readers and commentors, which we don’t like.The more people that come to the site to talk intelligently about baseball, the better it is for everyone. Let’s scale it back a bit on that stuff and focus more on good old fashioned baseball talk, please. Here’s our commenting guidelines if you need a refresher.

    Man, I feel like a kiss-ass, but I completely agree.

    /puckers up

    • Johan Iz My Brohan

      Good Ol’ fashion baseball talk with John Kruk and Peter Gammons!

      • Christos

        Shoot me now

    • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

      I think things got a little out of hand this week after the anonymous scout post.

      So, really, it’s all Mike’s fault.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      As hard as it is to do (since they just kinda flow from my fingers subconsciously), I promise to scale back on the memes a bit (at least, the ones that specifically refer to other commenters. I’m still going to hand out plenty of tasty Pinstripe Beers, though).

      My request: I hope certain other unnamed commenters refrain from doing shit like this:

      http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ent-789065

      Nothing, and I repeat, nothing, is as infuriating as a commenter who repeatedly fails to read what is clearly written and instead incredulously and angrily responds to a different artificially created strawman position.

      I’ll meme-snark less. I hope others think more and respond better. I think that’s a fair tradeoff.

      • Jose

        You expect me to think more? Someone needs to lower their expectations.

      • rbizzler

        I am definitely not one to talk as in my non-RAB life I have been known to regulate on fools, but there may be instances when silence is golden.

        It may be helpful to think about it in a manner in which responding to ignorance/baiting/trolling is not furthering the discourse, but instead, opening yourself up to criticism that takes away from your overall point/message.

        My understanding is that you work in politics (please forgive me if I misunderstood/misremembered) or are at least politically minded, so I think that you will appreciate the parallels of this situation with a politician allowing her/himself to get off-message. The result is that the petty tone muddies the discourse and distracts people from the more important issues at hand.

        Plus, it is always fun to hammer home a good meme to make the people laugh, but sometimes a little restraint is in order.

        /end unsolicited advice session

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          Works for me.

    • http://iheartrerun.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/rerun.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      Just wanted to add my nod of agreement with all these sentiments… It’s fun that a lot of people comment here often, but we can’t rely on inside jokes so often that it makes the comments section less fun or interesting or informative for the other readers/commenters.

      And if I might add one thing… Let’s try not to jump down people’s throats so quickly. Sometimes people say things we disagree with or even things that are dumb, but they’re not always (in fact they’re probably just about never, certain commenters excepted) trying to be dumb or to annoy other commenters who may be better-informed than they are. Just because you may have had a conversation ten times and find it annoying when someone brings up a point you think has been debunked doesn’t mean that other person has participated in those conversations.

      Anyway, just my two-cents. I think it’s usually well-intentioned, but sometimes I think the comments can get a little out of hand with mocking people or their ideas very quickly. We all do it, I’m not singling anyone out and I think at times I’ve been just as guilty of this as anyone else. There’s nothing wrong with calmly explaining to someone why they’re wrong and, if they just don’t want to hear it, leave it be and let them think about it some. There are plenty of people here who have changed their minds about certain issues over time.

    • Chip

      Does this mean Melvin and Nails are going to die?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        No.

        The fast-growing “MovieQuoteBoBait” probably will, though.

      • Accent Shallow

        I couldn’t kill Melvin if I wanted to.

    • Bob Stone

      I agree. I’ve been here on RAB awhile and do enjoy the occasional “/alex gonzalezed” stuff. However, I can see where Nike is coming from as I get tired of spending a lot of mental energy trying to figure out inside jokes and memes. It must seem like a crazy, turn-off maze to some new readers/commenters.

      I think we will all get more out of this blog if it continues to prosper and grow. With that thought in mind, I, for one, totally support Mike’s request.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Best gallery ever.

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      Though it is disheartening to see that Tex still has that awful, awful hair. Someone needs to lead an intervention.

      • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

        I’m disappointed in Leigh Teixeira.

        • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

          Yeah, how is she allowing this to happen?

          • bexarama

            She already hated the Newbury Street shopping, preventing one great evil. One woman can only do so much.

          • EB

            $180 Million reasons

  • pete

    once the RAB dictionary is up, can we go back to CWTOPOTBDT?

    • pete

      (ten points to the first person to correctly put those words together)

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        No idea.

        ———-

        Tonight’s presentation is sponsored by:
        NASWPP: N#$%&as Against Smokin’ Weed in Public Places.

        A subdivision of:
        IKSRDFO: I’m Knockin Somebody Right Da’ F#$% Out!

        /Redman’d

  • Christos

    Just a reminder of our awesomeness that was last year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBQtnXa3Qlo

    • Tom Zig

      hah that was awesome

    • bexarama

      Never. EVER. Gets. Old.

      • LI Kevin

        Plus the throw to second to let Tex score.
        I think there would have been a play at the plate.

  • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    A little redemption for Rob Neyer today.

    Steve (Boston, MA)

    Rob, was your “the Yankees clearly don’t care about defense” comment from a few weeks back sarcasm?

    Rob Neyer (1:01 PM)

    I didn’t put that well. I didn’t mean that Brian Cashman doesn’t know about defense, or doesn’t think it matters. I just meant that considering his roster and his payroll, he could focus more on hitting and pitching than fielding.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      Nice to see a big man admit a mistake. Neyer has regained some of my respect and trust.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        Agreed. It clearly wasn’t sarcasm, but I wanted to ask in a way I thought it would get answered, instead of just calling him an idiot for it.

  • pete

    soooo, i read the Hughes article like 5 hours after it came out and so my post was lost in the flickering shadows of antiquity, but in case anyone feels like hearing (reading) my long-winded opinions on the subject, here it is:

    http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ent-789622

  • pete

    banhammer time!

  • Accent Shallow

    How unrealistic is it for me to expect Joba’s stuff to look like 2008 this year?

    Averaging 95 on the fastball, hitting 100 every start, generally making hitters look silly when he’s on . . .

    • Jose

      Prediction: Joba does not hit 100 at any point this year.

      • Accent Shallow

        Bet you whatever the cheapest baseball-reference sponsorship ($5? $10?) that he does

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

          I’ll take that bet. In fact, let’s raise it. $25 bucks. Seriously.

          • Accent Shallow

            Nah, $10 is my limit here. (Unless $25 really is their cheapest)

            Terms:

            Joba makes 20 starts minimum
            Sponsorship is of a player of your opponent’s choice

            Do we have a deal?

            • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

              So the deal is he has to make 20 starts and hit 100 on the radar gun? If so, you get the $10?

              If so, sure. There’s no way he hits 100.

        • Jose

          I’ll pass. But I will bookmark this prediction.

          There are very few starters that hit 100 on the gun during a game. Who else does it during a start other than Jimenez or Verlander?

          • JGS

            We’ll see it if and when Feliz starts

          • Accent Shallow

            See below. I may have exaggerated a little, but I bet one of those 99.6s got rounded up. Maybe some of the others.

            • Jose

              Do you now see why I made that prediction? No rounding of numbers.

          • JGS
      • The Sheepmeister

        Well, Joba is no Casey Kelly, that’s for sure.

    • JGS

      He hit 100 every start in 2008?

      • Accent Shallow

        Joba’s max (and average) fastball velocity for every start he made in 2008, per Brooks Baseball’s PitchFX tool:

        6/13: 98.4 (94.6)
        6/19: 98.8 (95.1)
        6/25: 99.0 (95.3)
        7/1: 97.8 (94.8)
        7/6: 99.4 (94.9)
        7/11: 98.4 (94.8)
        7/19: 99.6 (95.2)
        7/25: 99.6 (95.5)
        7/30: 99.4 (94.9)
        8/4: 98.2 (94.8)

        (He had two shortened starts on 6/3 and 6/8, but Brooks Baseball isn’t cooperating for me, so forget it)

        That might not be hitting 100 every start, but that’s some serious gas.

    • For Lack of a More Creative Name.. Alex

      I just want him to work efficiently, show good command, and [insert cliche here]. In all seriousness, if he could average 93ish and occasionally hit 97, he would be in fine shape.

      • PaulF

        Work fast, throw strikes and and change speeds?

        • For Lack of a More Creative Name.. Alex

          Perfect.

      • Accent Shallow

        I certainly would not complain at all.

    • Tom Zig

      100 MPH or 100 pitches?

      Both are 100 but are totally different.

    • pete

      Prediction: Joba averages 109 mph on the fastball, 94 on the slider with 15 inches of break, 85 mph on the curve with 24 inches, and 81 on the change with 20 inches, and goes 34-0 with a 0.00 ERA, and strikes out 293. As he approaches his innings cap, he moves to the BP in the post season (since the other 4 starters are equally dominant), where he pitches quite well. People clamor for Joba to the pen in 2011 because it just fits his mentality better.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        Did you hit submit too soon? This is way too short for a pete post…..

        That being said, IETC.

        • pete

          heh

      • ROBTEN

        In the interests of the new seriousness, I have a couple of questions about something that Joseph said in a thread a few days ago about not using BABIP as an “average” comparative stat:

        http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ent-783573

        I understand that as an an indicator, BABIP is not as effective as a general comparative stat, given that there are secondary factors individual to a player which affect its meaning. But, does knowing the league average BABIP mean anything when projecting a player like Cervelli?

        For instance, in the case of a player like Cervelli, who has a limited ML history, how are projections for xBABIP calculated? In a relatively SSS, Cervelli’s BABIP put him in the top half of all AL catchers last year with a min of 100 PA.

        However, CHONE has Cervelli projected at .309 next year. Is this an effect of the presumed regression to the mean in other areas? In other words, if it is the case that we cannot necessarily assume that Cervelli’s BABIP can be compared with or regressed to the mean, then is this projected decline a secondary effect of the the projected decline in other areas?

        That is, if we assume that Cervelli is generally at or below league average in all other areas, is it incorrect to assume that his BABIP might have been a high variation and, in turn, that we also can’t expect a correction towards a higher BA in that respect next season?

        In other words, with a player like Cervelli, is it incorrect to assume that his at or below average average rates and projections in other areas means that it is less likely that Cervelli was unlucky last season and more likely that even his BABIP will regress, and thus we should not necessarily expect any more than what he has shown? Or is there something in his stats which explains why he has such a high BABIP, when all the other projects are league average or below, including speed (despite his “quickness for a catcher”)? Given that both his K% and his BB% are below league average, which, combined with a low OBP, seems to imply that he is entirely dependent on putting the ball in play, it would seem that even a relative projection of his xBABIP would be important going forward. (And, for what it is worth, James still has Cervelli at .321 next year, but with an OBP at .326, meaning he hits or he doesn’t get on).

        Or, short version, what information, if any does league-average BABIP provide for young hitters?

        Thanks.

        • ROBTEN

          I don’t know why this posted here. It should have been a new post, not a response. My bad.

        • Accent Shallow

          League average BABIP gives us something to regress towards — typically projections use a players past 3+ seasons (or MLEs), and add in a splashing of regression to the mean.

          However, since BABIP is due to things like how hard the ball is hit and speed, different types of players will be able to sustain different BABIPs — someone like Gardner will be very different than someone like Cano.

  • andrew

    an ad in the comments? interesting… i sense a RAB edit coming on…

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Sheesh, that ad was an ordeal. Left the same spam comment on every post since Sunday.

  • Hangoverologist

    So I ate Chinese tonight food tonight. I open up my fortune cookie and I see the lucky numbers. My lucky numbers are 46, 24, 50, 23, 9, 11. So I am going to pose a challenge to all you guys. Can anybody name the most recent Yankees (Like 1985 on) to wear these numbers. Winner gets a cookie (or alcohol, in order of preference).

    • bexarama

      46 – Andy
      24 – Cano
      50 – without cheating, I have no idea.
      23 – Mattingly
      9 – Maris
      11 – GGBG

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        Isn’t Rob Thompson 50? Or one of the other coaches?

      • bexarama

        Can anybody name the most recent Yankees (Like 1985 on)

        9 – Maris

        bexarama fail.

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      Pettitte, Cano, Kelleher, Mattingly, Nettles (’83), Gardner.

      • Hangoverologist

        Matty wins. What do you want first: cookie or booze?

        • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

          Can’t it be both?

          • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

            How about an Oatmeal cookie shot?

        • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

          Whatchu want a cookie?

    • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs

      I’m throwing Matt Lawton @ #50

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      My fortune cookie numbers:

      4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42, 108.

      • cnicnyrnyy

        I only ever read comments, I never post, however after reading the request at the beginning of this post and completely agreeing with it; I just wanted to point out that you are an ass.

        • V

          Nuh uh. You are. Boom!

  • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02.....gewanted=2

    On catching Mussina:

    I only caught Moose once. I don’t know if that was because of me or just because he and Jose Molina did so well together. The only game I caught for him was against Boston, and I don’t know if he made it through more than two innings. Hit the first batter of the game. I went out there at one point and he goes, “You want to pitch?” I said: “I’m not having much fun back here, either. But at least I have a mask on.” I think I had just thrown a pitch out into center field. It wasn’t going very well. He was giving up shot after shot. We didn’t match up after that.

    I miss his grumps.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      I just hope he doesn’t get Brent Mayne’d and have made the whole thing up.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      That whole article is great.

  • Jose

    I have a question about the blog. Are there any plans to implement that optional registration? Or anything else in the works?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I don’t think we’re going to do optional registration. We’ll have the “show unread comments” feature working by Opening Day. I can assure you of that much.

      • Jose

        Awesome. You guys are the best.

  • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

    No more memes and inside jokes? I, myself, am essentially a meme on this site.

    Damn you for taking my identity, Axisa. Damn you!

    I’m not sure I have the stomach or IQ to make valid, introspective points.

    Just…fuck.

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      Not no more memes. Just….scale back a little so it’s not so intimidating for people who want to comment but are unsure of what’s going on here. More welcoming; less insanity.

      Capiche?

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

        Hah, I was being hyperbolic. No worries. I can see how some of the threads can get unruly, especially if you’re not familiar with the tone or what the regulars think.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          (hands both Kabak and JMK a tasty Pinstripe Granderson Doppelbock™)

          • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

            David Patterson CWUDT.

            • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

              I really hope that’s “can’t see what you did there.”

              Not that I condone blind jokes, but I like to think of it as a David Paterson joke.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                I’m still confused as to exactly what is being referred to there.

                • ColoYank

                  Boy, for once I don’t feel like the only one who doesn’t get “it.”

                  It’s so exciting! Gosh, now I feel like I belong to something. Now, could someone please explain what it is I belong to?

                • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

                  Yargh. You responded to my exchange with Ben with a meme, so, in what appear to be unfunny terms, I made a joke like, “Even a blind dolt sees what you did there by tossing in a meme.”

                  It’s more about Patterson’s “leadership” and general incompetence than it is just that he’s blind, though certainly that’s part of it (cheap shot, I know). I just absolutely loathe David Patterson. Possibly more than Brett Gardner.

                  Well, carry on then.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  Ah, okay, I see.

                  (moves along)

                • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

                  Basically, JMK carried a conversation we were having on Twitter into here via a meme. I can see why some (read: everyone) might feel excluded there.

    • Jose

      I always assumed you were some kind of algorithm that produced memes.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

        Are you talking about the time I got spider crabs from sleeping with that radioactive ogre?

        Note to self: Stop sleeping with girls from The Ukraine, Pennsylvania, Bikini Island or Hiroshima.

        Nagasaki, you rocki rocki. You can stay.

    • chriskeo

      Your comments can still keep their “Mistique and Aura”

  • http://ibleedblueandwhite.com Jamie

    C’mon guys and gals! Its March!!

    Who are everyone’s favorites to either win it all or reach the final four?

    I will play favorites and continue to pick Villanova…. even though we are tied with Cinci right now at the half which is a sin

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      Remember when I said UConn would make it to the Sweet Sixteen? Sigh…

      • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs

        HOLD ON MATTY! Just gotta sneak in that field!

        • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

          Why in the fuck didn’t they foul on Louisville’s last position? Ugh.

          Now I think they need to win two games in the Big East Tournament to make guarantee a trip to the dance.

          • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs

            If the can beat Notre Dame and knock them out, they’ll have a better shot. They need to win the last two and at least the 1st at MSG though. Two wins would be a lock.

            • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

              Word.

              Regardless, though, can we just talk about how awesome Kemba Walker is? I freakin’ love that dude.

              • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs

                We can talk about it. I wish he had played this well at the start of the season though. He was totally lost and couldn’t pass at all for the first month and a half.

                Also, if you want in on this, in my circles he is known as “The African American Hornet” after he was declared “The Black Hornet” by a buddy of mine but we thought it was too racist.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size
                • ColoYank

                  Hah! That “Onion” cracks me up. Someone there had to have a fairly sophisticated understanding of the MLB scene.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

        What a disappointing team.

        Wild prediction: Purdue gets knocked out in the first round.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      Nova? More like Novay {high fives self]!

      Cuse, Kentucky, Georgetown, Kansas.

      I know, not very outlandish.

      I see Kentucky taking home the trophy.

      • http://ibleedblueandwhite.com Jamie

        Georgetown? Now you just did that to get me pissed off haha

        • billbybob

          Tough to argue with 3 of those teams; however, I don’t see Georgetown making it either. I’ll go with Michigan State.

          • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

            Georgetown has an inside presence with good guard play. They have one of the few top-notch bigs out there. Michigan State does not. It’s just a feeling and I’m by no means an expert.

    • Andy_C_23

      Forget VillaNoFun, THE HAWK WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!!

      /bitter Saint Joe’s alumni’d

    • Big Juan

      Kansas, ‘Cuse, West Virginia, Ohio State.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    So 5/51.25 for the Justin, huh? That deal could wind up being a total steal for the D-Backs.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      It will be a total steal. He should have held out for more, though I understand why he said, “Hmmm…$50 million and you just bought out a few arb years. Ok.”

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        I totally understand buying out arb years for position players. But I have a feeling that buying out arb years for pitchers (even ones as good as Johnson, King Felix and Verlander) will come back to bite somebody.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        Yup. And this deal saddens me much less than the Felix and Verlander deals.

        Felix and Verlander signing 5-year below-market extensions 2 and 1 years (respectively) before they hit unfettered free agency: regrettable

        Upton signing a 6 year market-rate extension 4 years before he hits unfettered free agency: not a big deal, all things considered

  • rbizzler

    Ahoy peeps,

    I asked this the other night but did not get a response, but does anyone have a preference concerning metrics they use for fantasy baseball pre-draft resources?

  • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

    Look, I want Phil Hughes to be a starter for the long haul as much as the next guy. I just think that the minimal gain you get towards his future innings limit is completely negated by missing out on all of that experience against big leaguers. We know Hughes can go through a lineup three times, he’s done it his entire life in the minors. All he’s going to do in Triple-A is spin his wheels. You don’t learn anything from carving guys up, you learn from making mistakes and getting smacked around a bit. Keeping Hughes in the Majors to start the year puts the best team on the field and is the best thing for his development.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ste-24519/

    Amen, Mike. That’s one of the best Yankee-related posts I’ve read online in a long, long time. In plain English, concise, yet covered all the bases.

    • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

      Although I would have edited out that last part about the ‘dumb idea’ stuff. I agree that the folks who want to send him down are wrong, but smart people are wrong about things all the time.

      Anyhoo, I think some folks fundamentally misunderstand the nature of the relationship between the team and player, especially concerning pitchers. The team doesn’t exist to serve the needs of the player, the player is there to serve the needs of the team. A pitcher who can help the team on the MLB level is ready to give the team a return on the already substantial investment they’ve made in him (signing bonus, instructs, etc) That’s what he’s there for.

      Plus, pitchers can blow out their arm at any moment. Can you imagine if he spent 2-3 months in AAA, and (God forbid) blew out his elbow? Or worse, his labrum? Cashman would be kicking himself in the ass for not getting whatever he could out of him while he was able. This stuff about “Short term over long term” is silly when it comes to pitchers. There is no long term. Nobody knows how many innings Hughes has in his right arm. You may very well be planning for a future that never comes, which is a great way to become the next KC Royals. Win now, win now, win now.

      • http://iheartrerun.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/rerun.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        I’m not going to get into this conversation again (it was covered pretty exhaustively in the comments in that post), but just one thing… The people who want Hughes to work in AAA aren’t more concerned with the player than they are with the team. They think proceeding that way is what’s best for the team.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          That.

          I’m not putting Phil Hughes’s development before the team’s priorities; I think Phil Hughes’s development is an intrinsic part of the team’s priorities.

        • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

          I understand you don’t like the characterization, but if he’s not helping the team win games at a time when he is physically able and mature enough to do so, then that’s exactly what’s happening. He’s either on the team, helping us win, or he’s not and it’s ‘about his future’. Obviously, the Yanks could benefit from that ‘future’ but when it comes to pitchers, TINSTAAPP.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

            “He’s either on the team, helping us win, or he’s not and it’s ‘about his future our future with him’.

            Important distinction that I think you’re glossing over.

            • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

              I get that their interests aren’t exactly mutually exclusive. But again, the players are there to help the team, first and foremost.

              The funny thing is, I don’t even think Hughes himself would argue with what I’m saying. Remember last year? They asked him if he wanted to start in AAA or go to the MLB bullpen and he didn’t hesitate for one second.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                I get that their interests aren’t exactly mutually exclusive. But again, the players are there to help the team, first and foremost.

                And Hughes being in Scranton for a few months and then taking on a larger role in 2011 helps the team.

                That’s the second point that you refuse to acknowledge. 2010 is not the only year in the calculus. Hughes helping the team slightly less now to help the team considerably more later is a rational, sound position for the team to take in their constant objective to create a roster consistently capable of winning a title each and every single year.

                • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                  I refuse to acknowledge it because (as I stated earlier) for all we know Hughes may not have a 2011. And I don’t buy into the notion that relieving on the MLB level is bad for his develoment. I (and David Cone) think it enhances it, not harms it.

                  If he really needs innings that bad, let him get 30-40 in Puerto Rico during the winter.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  I refuse to acknowledge it because (as I stated earlier) for all we know Hughes may not have a 2011.

                  That won’t stand up to a good reductio ad absurdum, though. If we start saying that we should make pitching roster decisions based on the principle that “next year isn’t promised to this guy”, we’d move Andrew Brackman and Zach McAllister into the big league bullpen immediately and DFA Gaudin and Mitre on the spot.

                  Saying that pitchers have a high risk of injury does not mean that we should try and squeeze every inch of production out of each and every pitcher immediately, long-term-strategic-planning be damned. Yes, pitchers get injured and 2011 isn’t promised for Hughes. We should still plan for 2011, though. It will come, Phil Hughes or no Phil Hughes, and until he’s definitively NOT in the 2011 picture, he should be definitively IN the 2011 picture.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  And I don’t buy into the notion that relieving on the MLB level is bad for his develoment.

                  Again, that’s not an accurate portrayal of our argument. It’s not necessarily that relieving on the MLB level is bad for his development, it’s that starting on the AAA level is marginally BETTER for his development.

                • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                  Right, even if you accept the ‘marginally better’ part (which I still don’t) then you’re still advocating for a marginal benefit over the known benefit of him providing substantial value for the 2010 Yanks. All decisions for a GM should be so easy.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  But that’s not an easy decision.

                  Marginal future benefits v. marginal present upgrades is not a clear-cut win for marginal present benefits every single time.

                  It’s just not. I’m not sure how else to explain it. It’s a careful, dispassionate balancing act that can easily be ultimately decided for either choice.

                  Thinking that it’s always a slam-dunk for the present marginal upgrades is a boversimplification. You know that it is.

                • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                  Bah, whatever. I already got a post out of this a half hour ago. Mission accomplished.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                Remember last year? They asked him if he wanted to start in AAA or go to the MLB bullpen and he didn’t hesitate for one second.

                I’m sure accumulating ML service time, hastening free agency, and making more money probably had a lot to do with Hughes’s rational decision in that instance.

                • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

                  We should ask everyone young guy on the team, Scranton or NYY? I’m sure they wouldn’t hesitate either.

                • http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/images/1993.alex-rodriguez.jpg Drew

                  Eh, English fail.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  Exactly.

                  Saying that Hughes should stay in Scranton ‘Til the Stretch™ is firmly a team-centric position and not a player-centric position. Hughes, like every other young player, would much rather sit on the big league bench accumulating service time and getting a big league paycheck than dominating in AAA, even if it slows their developmental progress.

          • http://iheartrerun.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/rerun.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

            No, you’re just plain wrong. Look, I’m not even on the other side of this conversation, I’m not arguing for Hughes to pitch in AAA, but you’re mischaracterizing their argument. They want Hughes to pitch in AAA because they think that is the best thing for the Yankees, not for Hughes. They think the Yankees will be fine for a few months without Hughes, that they can then bring Hughes up later in the season to pitch out of the MLB ‘pen for part of the regular season and for the postseason (knock on wood), and that the Yankees will be better off in 2011 and beyond because Hughes will have worked as a starter for most of the year and gained the experience and innings that come with that work. Their argument is about the Yankees, not Hughes. Frankly, I don’t know how you can pretend to know their motivation better than they do, it’s kind of patronizing.

            Dude, it’s no biggie, it’s like you said… Smart people are wrong about things all the time.

            • ColoYank

              ICWUDT (I see what you did there – how’s that, Mike?), and admired it.

            • For Lack of a More Creative Name.. Alex

              Kinda late, but further, many people are concerned that one of the five main starters will get injured. Sixth starters get a lot of innings every year. What it boils down to; Is Hughes’ innings spot starting+another bullpen guy, like Melancon, worth more than a full season in the ‘pen for Hughes with Gaudin getting those innings as a starter?

      • ROBTEN

        Plus, pitchers can blow out their arm at any moment. Can you imagine if he spent 2-3 months in AAA, and (God forbid) blew out his elbow? Or worse, his labrum? Cashman would be kicking himself in the ass for not getting whatever he could out of him while he was able.

        This could be turned around in two ways, though. First, if the fact that “pitchers can blow out their arm at any moment” were the only guiding factor, then it would shape how you approach all young pitchers, not just Hughes. The question is whether the need in the bullpen is so pressing that Hughes is required. Those who are arguing that Hughes should go to Scranton to start the season, as he did last year, don’t think that two months in the minors will destroy the bullpen and that in a relatively short space, his absence can be filled. Second, we could turn this around and say, what if he blew out his elbow because of the added stress on his arm from coming out of the bullpen and never got to see what he could do as a starter? There are always risks with young pitchers. No one is suggesting that sending him to AAA is not without risk, but in the same way it would be shortsighted to make decisions on perceived risks that might or might not happen.

        This stuff about “Short term over long term” is silly when it comes to pitchers. There is no long term. Nobody knows how many innings Hughes has in his right arm. You may very well be planning for a future that never comes, which is a great way to become the next KC Royals. Win now, win now, win now.

        No, you become the KC Royals by making poor, short-term decisions. You become the NY Yankees by balancing your short-term and long-term needs. Right now, the bullpen is already stronger than it was last season with or without Hughes. Those of us arguing that Hughes should start the season in Scranton believe that any risk in the relative short-term are outweighed by the long-term benefits. No one is arguing, for instance, that Hughes necessarily remain in Scranton for the whole season or that he never pitch out of the pen this year. Further, no one is suggesting that the team “throw games away” early in the season. Rather, the suggestion is to use our relative strength in the bullpen to make sure that he is given the full time and opportunity to develop into the top of the rotation starter that has been projected as his ceiling.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      Except for this:

      All he’s going to do in Triple-A is spin his wheels. You don’t learn anything from carving guys up, you learn from making mistakes and getting smacked around a bit.

      I hope I’m not angering Axisa for saying this, but that’s still simply a boversimplification. You may feel that there’s less that can be gained from Phil staying in the Scranton rotation for a few more months, but there’s certainly not NOTHING that can be gained.

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        Meh, fine “little”.

        You try writing a 400+ word piece and choose every word perfectly. Soooo easy to be in the peanut gallery. I’m still waiting for your guest post, buster. You and Mondesi.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          The point isn’t that every word wasn’t chosen “perfectly”.

          Three sentences that all say “Hughes gains jack shit from Scranton” isn’t a poorly-worded clause, it’s a mis-reasoned concept. It’s a boversimplification.

      • Hey ZZ

        A couple of things regarding learning nothing in AAA vs learning how to get big league hitters out in the bullpen.

        1. I think there is a point where the “David Cone Concept” of benefiting from pitching in the bullpen runs its course. Last year I believe it definitely benefited Hughes in a physical and mental sense pitching out of the bullpen. 50, 60, 70 more innings in the bullpen? Not so much IMO. What is he learning at this point? He can mix in his change, but the second one of them gets crushed for a double in a 2-1 game in the 8th inning I do not think we will be seeing many more changeups. He has already demonstrated that he can get big league hitters out during one inning stints where he blows people away with his fastball and then dropping a curve in there. Is 60 more innings of 1 inning pitching really going to benefit him that much or at all as a starter? Is he going to do anything different from last year in the BP?

        2. At this point what he needs to learn is how to get “hitters” out for 6-9 innings and for 160-200 innings a year. Not just big leaguers, but anyone. He has shown he can get anyone out in short stints and limited innings. His innings high in AAA is 29. Yes he has dominated the minors, but no matter how much he dominated he has not demonstrated or really been able to demonstrate he has the stamina to dominate ANYONE for 6 innings at a time over during a 160-200 inning season. Are we really guaranteeing based on such a small sample that Phil Hughes would dominate AAA hitters over the course of a full season?

        It is not just about saying “His body is capable of pitching X number of innings in 2011.” It is about how effectively his body can handle pitching that number of innings. It is about mentally handling that workload.

        What Phil Hughes needs for 2011 is to be mentally and physically prepared to go out there and run through a lineup 3-4 times. 60-70 more innings in the bullpen is not going to help with that. There is a lot more to being a starting pitcher than developing the “ability” to get a hitter out one time.

  • steve (different one)

    Aceves looks like the f’ing Terminator.

    • http://iheartrerun.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/rerun.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      I was thinking the same thing. He’s Vin Diesel in T-8. (shudders)

    • Nose

      mixed with the white bald cop from The Wire

      • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs

        Herc!

    • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

      He IS the fucking Terminator. They don’t call him the ‘Mexican Gangster’ for nothin.

      They also call him ‘El Paton’, but I don’t want to touch that one.

  • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

    Yanks play tomorrow.

    Yanks play tomorrow.

    Yanks play tomorrow.

    Yanks play tomorrow.

    Yanks play tomorrow.

    Yanks play tomorrow.

    Yanks play tomorrow.

    Yanks play tomorrow.

    Yanks play tomorrow.

    • bexarama

      aieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

      • scooter

        This IS exciting… just wish I could watch from work. Instead I’ll have to watch a bit on MLB.TV when I get home.

        • JGS

          does mlb.tv black out in-network ST games?

  • http://ibleedblueandwhite.com Jamie

    So much for Lance Stephenson being “Born Ready.”

  • Zack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDhYKZHKh4Q

    If you’re going to have these stupid events, atleast get the results right so you dont screw kids out of millions of dollars for posting false times.

  • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs
    • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs

      safe, by the way

    • JGS

      I’m going with fake. If Grizzly Man taught us anything, it’s that bears you think are your friends will one day kill and eat you

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        Get out here! You’re making me look bad! Stupid panda jerk!

        /BrianFantana’d

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        OMG is that fake. Half of those pics are obviously photoshopped.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogYDUmIigw0

        BTW-This is what really happens to people who have Grizzly Bears as pets.

    • For Lack of a More Creative Name.. Alex
  • Maximilian Javier Rodriguez

    If you were offered a trade straight up, Justin Upton for Jesus Montero, would you do it?

    I don’t know what I would do in that situation. They NYY farm is low on Outfield impact talent besides Slade, but Montero’s bat is supposed to be godly. Upton’s no slouch himself.

    The NYY farm system is loaded with catchers so I guess it would depend if I had the knowledge that Cashman does about just how well Montero would do at catcher.

    Anyway, what would you guys do?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      If you were offered a trade straight up, Justin Upton for Jesus Montero, would you do it?

      In a cocaine heartbeat.

    • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

      As Mike noted this afternoon, Romine could very well have more value than Montero, if he’s only a DH to us and Romine is a plus defender.

      • Maximilian Javier Rodriguez

        That’s what I was thinking.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          Doesn’t mean Montero is trade bait, though. He’s still basically untouchable.

          He’d only be moved in deals that would never ever ever happen, like your theoretical J-Up proposal. In order to agree to part with Montero, we’d have to win the trade so clearly and thoroughly that the other team would back out because they’d know they’d be getting royally screwed.

          • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

            Don’t be so sure. He was already offered for Halladay this winter, and I don’t believe for one second that the Marlins will ever pay Josh Johnson any of the big money on that extension. Hanley’s possible, too.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

              That Montero-Halladay deal didn’t happen, though, did it?

              • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                Nope, but it means he’s not “untouchable” if you’re offering him around, even if we all have our doubts about whether the offer would have ever been accepted.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  As I said, my “untouchable” means simply that we’d only trade him in theoretical deals that would never actually get agreed to.

          • Maximilian Javier Rodriguez

            No, I don’t think Montero’s trade Bait at all. He has one of the best bats in the minors and you can’t part with that for just anything, but I would jump on Upton or Hanley( never going to happen) deals simply because of the presence of Romine and to a lesser extent J.R. Murphy and Gary Sanchez.

            This is all theoretical of course, but an outfield eventually of Grandy, Upton and Slade would be deadly.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

              I would jump on Upton or Hanley( never going to happen) deals simply because of the presence of Romine and to a lesser extent J.R. Murphy and Gary Sanchez.

              Actually, I’d jump on a Montero for Upton or Montero for Hanley swap even if Montero was the only quality catching prospect we had in the system. Upton and Hanley are such studs, you’d trade them in a one-for-one prospect swap even if it dramatically weakened an area of need.

              But again, this is academic. Never gonna happen.

              • Maximilian Javier Rodriguez

                Again, so would I. However, having Romine there is a good catalyst to help me pull the theoretical trigger.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  Sounds good to me.

                  (hands Maximillian a tasty Pinstripe Tampa Light Lime™)

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        I have a slightly more detailed post on it going up tomorrow.

        • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

          Cool, just don’t title it “Jesus Montero may very well be trade bait” because some big dork already used that one.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

            Trade Jesus Montero for surplus value immediately, 2011 isn’t promised to him.

            /justmessinwithya’d

            • Maximilian Javier Rodriguez

              You have to do what will help the club now. If Jesus isn’t going to do that, then he needs to get traded. Jesus for a bullpen arm would be a steal for the Yanks as it would help them in 2010 which is the most important thing.

              You always have to look at the short term as opposed to the long term. What helps the Yankees more in 2010, Jesus Montero in the Minors or a bullpen arm?

              • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

                I disagree. You view them both important but with a nod to the long term goal.

                Otherwise Joba and Phil would not be competing for the 5th starter spot. They would both be in the bullpen or gone if Roy Halladay becomes the new ace.

                Joba did not help the big league club much in 2009 yet he wasn’t traded for Halladay. They could have gotten a meh starter that can beat Joba in 2009 but they didn’t.

                What helps the Yankees more in 2010, Jesus Montero in the Minors or a bullpen arm?
                What helps the Yankees more Montero’s bat in 2012, 2013, 2014 and more or a relief pitcher over the same time span? Eventually those years become the short term goals.

              • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                Seriously? “needs to get traded”? For a bullpen arm?

                I could see dangling him for a stud pitcher or position player of need, but I hope this post was a spoof.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                  Pretty sure it was a goof.

                • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

                  Oh fuck me it definitely sounded like it.

                • Maximilian Javier Rodriguez

                  I guess I was a little too subtle.

                • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

                  Nope I’m just stupid.

                • Maximilian Javier Rodriguez

                  However, what does it say about the state of this site if this argument was believed to have actually been believed by me.

                  That’s some scary shit.

                • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

                  You can’t be too obvious.

                  It’s not you’re fault. Some of the stuff that gets posted online is so dumb that you just never know. If this was LoHud, I wouldn’t have doubted it for a second.

        • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          Just do not, do not, do not suggest trading him for a comparable minor league pitcher.

          http://mystiqueandaura.com/201.....-cahmoney/

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

            That post is awesome.

            It’s missing memes and fart jokes, though.

            • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

              John VanBenschoten:Once a top 10 pitching prospect. Scary shit.

              Feel free to add your own memes and fart jokes.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

                (poops in the refrigerator, eats wheel of cheese)

                • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

                  I’m not even mad. That’s amazing!

              • bexarama

                hahaha, some of the comments on those pitchers are pretty hysterical.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

    No interest in Mateo: One of our more knowledgeable bloggers inquired today about the Braves possibly having interest in Wagner Mateo, a 16-year-old outfielder from the Dominican whose $3.1 million agreement with the Cardinals was voided last year because he failed a physical.

    But a Braves source have since informed me that they do not have any interest in Mateo.

    http://markbowman.mlblogs.com/.....straw.html

    Andy will be overjoyed.

    • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

      Mateo was originally signed by St. Louis last summer but the Cardinals voided the contract due to concerns over Mateo’s eyesight.

      http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/wagner-mateo/

      Yeah, that might be a teensy lil’ problem for Wagsy.

      Oh well. He can still be Governor of NY, I suppose.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        Step 1.) Sign him.
        Step 2.) Buy Ted Williams’s frozen head.
        Step 3.) Perform eye-transplant surgery.
        Step 4.) Pussytube.

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      The day Cyclops doesn’t sign with the Yankees, someone better keep Andy away from bridges.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        I really hope that nickname sticks with him.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

          Seconded.

  • bexarama

    the Sports Pickle website is doing “previews” of every team before the season starts. The Nats and Pirates are up already:

    http://www.sportspickle.com/ar.....10-preview

    http://www.sportspickle.com/ar.....10-preview

    They’re pretty funny.
    Washington’s big acquisition in the bullpen is new closer Matt Capps, who was cut from the PITTSBURGH PIRATES in the offseason for not being good enough for the PITTSBURGH PIRATES!!!! Capps to the Nationals is like giving cancer to a person with AIDS.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      If the Nationals really want to sell tickets, they should make Strasburg a long reliever so fans can see him pitch almost every game.

      Well played.

    • bexarama

      http://www.sportspickle.com/ar.....res-bronze

      Heh.
      The team’s qualifying trials for the Games were marred when fourth member of the crew Robert “Bawbby” O’Sheagerald was forced to withdraw from the team after saying that while he “hated the s—t” out of Derek Jeter, he really respected the way he played the game.

    • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

      I can’t wait to see their Mets preview.

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/ Nostra-Artist

        I can’t wait to see their Mets preview, Bexy.

        (I haven’t referred to you as ‘Bexy’ yet tonight, and I know you like that nickname. So there it is.)

        • bexarama

          That’s hot.

          • pat

            Ok Paris.

  • Maximilian Javier Rodriguez

    There’s a fun tidbit in the article about the Team bonding outing.

    From:
    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy article

    <blockquote cite=

    “Granderson said he spent a good part of the day talking about non-baseball topics with Andy Pettitte, but the highlight of the day for him was watching Kei Igawa repeatedly and hilariously struggle at Indy Car racing.

    He kept racing up against the wall and damaging his tires. He wouldn’t move off of it,” Granderson said. “He had his left hand on the wheel and he was just cruising like nothing was wrong. He was doing that for a good three minutes. Everyone was shouting, ‘Turn left! Turn left!’

    50 Million and he can’t even play video games. At worst he could’ve been a solid MLG prospect, but he can’t even do that.

    • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

      50 Million and he can’t even play video games. At worst he could’ve been a solid MLG prospect, but he can’t even do that.

      IETC.

  • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

    So in Yahoo when in the pre-ranking thing you get to do if you’re going to miss part of the draft, what do you do?

    Do you rank only the players you have a shot of getting or ranking every player in the order you like. So do I put Pujols as first even though I have say the 10th pick or do I put Teix first since he’ll likely be there at 10th?

    • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs

      everyone top to bottom if i recall correctly

    • Big Juan

      You want to rank the players in the order that you would draft them. The auto-draft will always take your highest pre-ranked player.

  • Mike Pop

    So I got the 9th pick in my draft, who should I take?

    • Maximilian Javier Rodriguez

      Is it a Snake draft?

    • Big Juan

      Think position scarcity. Shortstop, second base and third base are all pretty weak. Hanley won’t be there, and Utley most likely won’t be (though I got him at 9 in a mock draft). So possibly Longo or DWright? I’d also bet Tex would be on the board at 9 if you want to go that way.

    • Maximilian Javier Rodriguez

      If it is a Snake, in that position, I’d try to grab Troy Tulowitzki and Joe Mauer.

      Going along with what Juan said, positional scarcity would dictate that move.

      I wouldn’t go for a First Baseman simply because it is the deepest position in the majors. There are so many guys who could be contributors. Couple that along with ridiculously thin Catcher and Shortstop classes and you have a great move in my opinion.

    • pat

      Juan Miranda.

      Trust me.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        Fuck that. Ramiro Pena.

        • http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/yank_c.jpg T-Dubs

          Cowards. Kei Igawa.

          • Maximilian Javier Rodriguez

            Imbeciles! You ALWAYS pick Pat Venditte. He fills two spots in your rotation at the same time!

            • For Lack of a More Creative Name.. Alex

              I’m assuming Casey Kelly will have been taken already?

              • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

                Always a given. I’m thinking about trading Lincecum and Pujols for him. Think he’ll bite?

                • For Lack of a More Creative Name.. Alex

                  Well, seeing as though Kelly will be playing SS, 2B, SP and closer all at the same time, it would take a package of at least Hanley, Utley, Mo and Greinke.

              • bexarama

                Jose Iglesias might be the new Casey Kelly.

                Yeesh, Gammo. Try and hold it in.

                • pat

                  If I see the name Omar Vizquel in that article I’m gonna… ummm, well I’m not really gonna do anything except bitch and moan.

                • pat

                  Wow, the hands of Vizquel and the energy of Pedroia.

                  Of course.

                • pat

                  After a couple of weeks in camp, Red Sox officials are convinced that Iglesias has such balance at the plate that he is going to hit, and that he will develop gap power. His plate discipline will improve.

                  Considering “gap power” is what they say for people who have no power, I find it humorous he has to develop his power just to get to that level.

                • bexarama

                  But he has plate balance and his cousin is considered the best player in Cuba!

                  I just think it’s funny he focused his article on two actual major leaguers, and then… a Red Sox prospect. Of course.

      • Mike Pop

        14 team draft, first 3 picks I got Mauer – Zobrist – Greinke.

        • pat

          Nice dude. Where’s Zobrist eligible?

          • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

            2B, SS and OF IIRC.

            • Mike Pop

              Yep. CF and RF.

              Had to do it.

    • Mike Pop

      Thanks for all the input also.

  • Accent Shallow

    Gonna be at ST in a few weeks.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    So I think I’ve finally decided on my list for the “If you could only watch five movies for the rest of your life” category:

    The Godfather
    Jaws
    The Sandlot
    Imitation of Life (1959)
    Turks Fruit http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070842/

    • bexarama

      That’s a pretty awesome list. I never saw Turks Fruit (and I haven’t seen a couple of those movies in years), but the other movies are really good.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        If you can get your hands on a copy, definitely see TF ASAP. It’s regarded as the best film in Dutch history (one of the many directed by the severely underrated Paul Verhoeven) and is incredibly moving.

        • http://iheartrerun.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/rerun.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          Yes, he especially hit his stride in the mid 90′s, a period marked by his great successes “Starship Troopers” and “Showgirls.”

          • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

            Starship Troopers and Showgirls, like all his other American films (Total Recall, Robocop, Basic Instinct) all have really trashy/low-brow subject matter but technically, they’re wonderfully well made films that are gorgeous to look at (Hollow Man fucking sucked, though).

            • http://iheartrerun.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/rerun.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              Yeah yeah, I know, all the film geeks say Verhoeven is some misunderstood auteur.

              Personally, I don’t care how gorgeous Starship Troopers, Showgirls and Hollow Man were though. They still sucked balls.

              • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

                You know something? You suck balls!

                But, seriously, I understand why some people don’t like him or his movies.

                • http://iheartrerun.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/rerun.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

    • Hughesus Christo

      Since I have to watch these movies dozens (hundreds) of times:

      Synecdoche, New York
      Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
      Being John Malkovich
      Adaptation
      Idiocracy

      First four because they will stand up to obsessive study, and the last because it will prepare me for the coming world.

      /mightbeserious

      • bexarama

        Adaptation & ESotSM are absolutely amazing, especially the latter.

        Didn’t like BJM at all. I’m not a big fan of films that are really cavalier with humanity. I might be the only person out there that hates, hates, hates Heathers.

        Haven’t seen the other two.

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      Of course Jaws is on your list.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        Where do you think my love of sharks came from?

        • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          Heh. It’s all coming together now.

          • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

            How much longer til Shark Week?

            • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

              Like you don’t know.

  • pat

    It’s so fucking sad that the nightly news on Fox is now showing a 5 minute American Idol recap. Jesus Christ, what a sad state of affairs.

  • Mike Pop

    Carlos Beltran, a good pick in the 8th round?

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      I would have played it safe and gone with Teddy Roosevelt, but hey, that’s just me.

  • Dan

    Can someone explain where “Mexican Gangster” came from to a new poster?

    • pat

      Ace is from Mexico.
      Ace shows no fear on the mound.
      Ace never smiles, is big, bald and looks like a badass.
      Therefore Ace is the Mexican Gangster.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I don’t think anyone really remembers when it started. I think it was during his Sept. callup in 2008. He was having a great start or something, and the dialogue went…

      “Oh man, Aceves is killin’ it today.”

      “Dude’s a pimp.”

      “No way, he’s a gangster.”

      “Right, a Mexican gangster.”

      And it just kinda stuck.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        You know Tommie is gonna see this and come up with the exact thread soon enough.

        • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          He’s like Rain Main when it comes to remembering things like that and digging it up.

      • Accent Shallow

        He’ll never to “El Brujo” when it comes to nicknames.

        (Yes, that means “the witch doctor”)

  • bexarama

    I love you, Nick Johnson:
    http://cdn.newsday.com/polopol.....001999.JPG

    He looks like that in every picture I’ve seen of him from ST.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      He’s my hero.

    • bexarama

      Argh, bad link.

      Here you go.

  • Dan

    Thanks. Love the nickname, just wanted to know where it came from.

  • Mike HC

    I was thinking about who should hit in the two hole, and the more I go through the options, the more Teix seems to make sense. And especially when it is a lefty starter. I would go with:

    1- Jeter
    2 – Teix
    3 – A-Rod
    4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 can be any combo of the rest, Swisher, Cano, Johnson, Posada and Granderson, depending on who is hitting the best, splitting up the lefties and righties, etc …
    9 – Winn/Thames/Gardner

    Against righties, I would probably use Granderson in the two hole and move everyone down a notch. But against lefties, I almost definitely go with Teix.

    • bexarama

      Johnson should definitely be in the lineup before the two guys that’ll probably combine for ~80 HRs.

      • Mike HC

        I like Nick Johnson as a two as well. The lineup is so good it really does not matter that much.

        But, Teix is still a better hitter, and moving him and A-Rod up gets each of them more at bats throughout the season. If you bat Nick fourth then lets say, after A-Rod, guys like Posada, Swisher, Cano and Granderson all are more than capable of driving him in. His OBP would not be wasted.

  • bexarama

    If you’re a Mets fan, Game 6 of the 1999 NLCS has to be the most amazingly awful game ever.

  • Maximilian Javier Rodriguez

    I just Finished a mock draft on ESPN. I had the 7th pick out of 8 and this is what I ended up with.

    C – Brian McCann
    1B – Adrian Gonzalez
    1B Backup – Nick Johnson
    2B – Chase Utley
    3B – Evan Longoria
    SS – Elvis Andrus
    SS Backup – Alcides Escobar
    OF – Jacoby Ellsbury
    OF – Andre Ethier
    OF – Carlos Lee
    OF – Andrew McCutchen
    OF – Jason Heyward
    OF – Rajai Davis
    SP – Javier Vazquez
    SP – Brandon Webb
    SP – Jake Peavy
    SP – John Lackey
    SP – Matt Garza
    SP – Ben Sheets
    SP – Brian Matusz
    RP – Andrew Bailey
    RP – Jose Valverde
    RP – Billy Wagner
    RP – Rafael Soriano

    Did I do alright?

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

      Last place. Kidding, but I think your pitching will doom you. That lineup could be ace. Lots of nice players there.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

    Dan says:
    Can someone explain where “Mexican Gangster” came from to a new poster?

    Mike Axisa says:
    I don’t think anyone really remembers when it started…

    Matt Imbrogno says:
    You know Tommie is gonna see this and come up with the exact thread soon enough.

    Steve H says:
    He’s like Rain Main when it comes to remembering things like that and digging it up.

    Here you go:

    http://riveraveblues.com/2008/.....ment-96535

    My Advanced Google Search powers are AMAZING. You’re welcome.

    • pat

      This is funny…

      pete says:
      June 17th, 2008 at 8:04 pm

      i like that shot of veras and ramirez sitting together in the pen
      future late inning studs with the stuff they have, mark my words

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

        I like this exchange on the heels of my above conversation with Nostra about “getting value out of Hughes while you can since 2011 may never happen”:

        mustang says:
        Al Aceves is 25 YEARS OLD!!!!!!!!!
        I’m wondering how he can make it up the stairs.
        Sometimes you guys really know how to hurt a guy.

        LOL

        Joey says:
        25 is OLD man ;-)

        tommiesmithjohncarlos says:
        Might as well call him up now and see if he can help before he dies in a couple of years…

  • bexarama
    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

      DAMN, I did NOT see that coming!

      /FrankVitchard’d

    • A.D.

      Surprised it took this long.

  • http://www.facebook.com/adorador Ray Fuego

    what wonderful pics as a birthday gift!

    • pat

      Happy birthday dude. You get baseball as a gift, YAAAAAAAYYY

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