Jorge Posada and the contusion of doom

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When a Jeremy Guthrie fastball tailed in on Jorge Posada and hit him above the knee on Wednesday night, the Yanks’ catcher was clearly in pain. He walked slowly down to first base, limped awkwardly to second and eventually scored but with Curtis Granderson right behind him. He never made it back into the lineup.

Yesterday, the Yanks said Posada was day-to-day. Supposedly, he could have caught in an emergency, but the pain and swelling in the area around his fibular head was substantial. He probably won’t play this evening either, and no one is sure how long he’ll be out. Today, in his Under the Knife column, Baseball Prospectus’ Will Carroll sheds some light on the injury:

Ben Wolf … points out something about Posada getting hit by a pitch Wednesday that hadn’t occurred to me: “Was reading your latest column and saw that Posada was hit in the fibular head (I had just read knee in the general news). Even if there isn’t a fracture, there’s a risk of the injury being more of a long-term problem if he ends up with any restriction in the superior tibiofibular joint, especially considering the demands of a catcher squatting on the knee (including that joint specifically I think), not to mention any mechanistic problems he could have running. I suppose we will see.” …Posada says he could catch if it was an emergency, but it’s clear that it’s the squatting that’s the problem. We’ll see how the Yankees deal with this over the weekend, but expect Posada to miss time. At best, he could DH, but I think they’ll hold on to the retro DL move until they’re more sure.

I’m not entirely sure who Ben Wolf is but initial Google searches indicate a Ben Wolf associated with Medtronic. We can apply his views broadly to see how the Yanks treat Posada over the next few days.

For the Yankees, Jorge Posada is a key offensive piece of their puzzle. On the young season, he’s hitting .316/.400/.649, and his success makes it easy to overlook Mark Teixeira‘s struggles and A-Rod‘s recent hitless streak. With Posada out of the lineup and Cervelli in, the bottom of the order looks significantly weaker even if the team’s defense — and overall base running — improves.

The team should give Jorge some time to heal, and if he misses 15 days, it’s not the end of the world. He was on the shelf for 25 days last May, and the Yanks managed without him. Cervelli will get the bulk of the player time, and the team will bring up Chad Moeller to serve as a backup if Posada must be DL’d.

For now, it’s just a bruise, but by the end of the weekend, we’ll know more. If Jorge doesn’t see game action this weekend, I’d expect a trip to the disabled list. Even if he’s available to pinch hit or DH, the team can ill afford Ramiro Peña as their backup catcher for an extended period of time.

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  • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

    If Jorge does go on the DL, the cries to bring up Montero will be loud, I suspect.

    Which is of course foolish, but hey, such is life.

    (He’s not been Shiva Destroyer of Worlds in AAA yet, either.)

    • Dirty Pena

      I think the cries would be a lot louder if he wasn’t doing so poorly down there. Sure there’s plenty of idiots out there, but who could justify bringing up a 20 year old with 69 AAA at bats, with that ugly line in said at bats?

      Plus, Mo knows he’s not ready for your racist heckling.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

        Racist heckling?

        • Dirty Pena

          Haha the Lohud incident…

          • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

            Hah, oh sheesh. Yeah, that’s an odd situation. I still can’t figure out why someone would have done that.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

            Oh, this sounds interesting.

            Details, please.

            (pulls up a chair, grabs bucket of popcorn)

            • http://twitter.com/rebexarama bexarama

              Someone pretended to be JMK over at LoHud, complete with racist comments. Except it was really obviously not JMK because he kept using “u” instead of “you” and etc.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

                Hilarious. And, yet another reason I’ll never go to LoHud.

            • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

              It’s not that interesting. I don’t want to threadjack so I’ll make this brief. Basically somebody on LoHud stole my handle and wrote a bunch of racist, stupid comments and said how much he hated Javy Vazquez and how “retarded” Girardi is. So a bunch of people thought it was me and were going to troll on my blog.

              Again, not that interesting.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

                The entire internet world needs verified accounts, Twitter-style.

                • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

                  We’ve pondered optional registration here. Would that be of interest?

                  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

                    Meh, probably not yet.

                    The incidents of RAB posters impersonating other RAB posters are pretty few and far between, and you guys usually do a great job of tamping them out quickly. I don’t think there’s a need.

                    JMHO.

                    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

                      Besides, I don’t want to give you any more information than I have to. I’m worried that the State Arizona may start thinking I’m an illegal alien.

                    • Dirty Pena

                      But registration (somewhat) diminishes trolling, no? Even if it’s optional, there will be a troll or two that’ll say “Meh, too much work to be a jackass, I’ll go elsewhere to tell people about my hatred for all things Cashman!”

                    • Thomas

                      Also, a bunch of the few impersonation post on this website have been jokes, which were not intended on starting any problems and thus did not.

                      For example: http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ent-308797

                  • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

                    if it would mean no more alex gonzalez then no

                    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

                      Jose wasn’t impersonating anyone, he was just creating an alternate personality for comedic purposes. He’d have been fine in a registration system, I’d surmise.

                  • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

                    Going to agree with the others. You guys do a great job of catching that stuff. On the one hand, I think it would be nifty to have some sort of personal profile/registration thing, but if it comes at the expense of possibly losing out on new commenters, I’d say it’s not worth it.

                    What exactly would optional registration entail?

  • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    When does his agent send out photos of the bruise, ala Brett Favruh?

  • http://www.thechuckknoblog.com/ JobaWockeeZ

    Damn you Guthrie.

  • Jose

    Fun fact: The superior tibiofibular articulation takes about 20% of the total static load applied to the ankle.

    I’m really hoping the injury was localized and is minor. Any type of injury elsewhere could really cause Jorge to struggle to catch. The weight of his body would be much more difficult to appropriately distribute if the injury is any worse.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      He already struggles to catch.

      /MSM’d

  • Evan NYC

    Odds that Jones/Markakis/Weiters get drilled next week?

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      Probably slim. The Yanks don’t need to start a fight or generate suspensions. The only player on the Yanks’ shit list should be Dallas Braden right now.

      • mike c

        I can’t wait until he comes to YSIII, I want to see an epic meltdown

      • Evan NYC

        I think the veteran pitchers will know better, but if it comes down to a late inning match up I could see Joba or Robertson hitting someone for sure.

      • Guest

        The amazing thing about the Braden incident is, even assuming he’s right, doesn’t his ludicrous overreaction make him look like the idiot of the whole affair? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a pitcher flip out over ANYTHING to that extent, up to and including watching and styling on HR’s. Even if it is a sin, is it a screaming and yelling and throwing equipment and pretty much promising to hit a batter the next time your face him level sin? I guess it is in many people’s minds if the perpetrator is A-Rod.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

    BRING UP JESUS NOW! NOW!

    (Jose Jesus Gil, of course. I hope that’s what the middle initial J stands for. It makes my joke work better.)

  • YankeeScribe

    Tex and A-Rod need to get into mid-season form NOW

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

    We should just have John Sterling catch until Jorge’s ready again.

    He’s part of the team, after all.

    /lastthread’d

  • mike c

    bring up ike davis

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

      Brilliant. Just promote the Mets prospects to our big league team when we have a hole to fill.

      I don’t know why we didn’t think of this before. (Probably because they haven’t had any prospects worth promoting, I guess.)

      • Rey22

        Why limit it to just their prospects? Santana can be our 8th inning LOOGY.

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          And since we’re talking about replacing Posada, a catcher, let’s borrow Mauer for a few weeks.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

            That wouldn’t work. The Twins aren’t dumb enough to allow us to just take their players without noticing.

            The Mets, however…

            • Beef Hammerdong

              The Mets, however…

              There was that rumor going around saying Mike Piazza played for the other team, so… you might be onto something.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

                (thinks)

                I don’t get it.

                • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

                  I think he’s making a Mike Piazza as gay joke.

                  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

                    Yeah, I get that. I just don’t get what it has to do with what we’re talking about, or how it’s funny.

                    • Rick in Boston

                      That’s the second bad, off-color comment in two threads. Not funny nor cool.

                    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

                      I blame ARod.

        • mike c

          Well now that Posada’s hurt we might be able to trade him for Santana straight up

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

    So, who’s getting DFA’d to make room for Moeller?

    Albaladejo? Golson? Huffman?

    Or, the perpetually injured Chris Garcia? Can we still activate Garcia, move him to the 60-day DL, and then add Moeller?

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      The latter. They’ll demote Logan*, activate Garcia, 60-day DL him, add Moeller to the 40-man and call him up. That’s my guess.

      *Because he still has options. They won’t DFA Winn or Mitre quite yet.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

        Daddy likes.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

        They’ll demote Logan, activate Garcia, 60-day DL him, add Moeller to the 40-man and call him up.

        And then hopefully call up Melancon instead of Logan when the roster juggling is done.

      • Dirty Pena

        Can’t they activate Garcia with Posada going to the DL? Do they need to demote Logan?

        • Dirty Pena

          Not that I’m opposed to demoting Logan, for the record.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

          Yeah, that should work too.

        • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

          Oh yeah. That should work. I’m so hellbent on seeing someone other than Boone Logan come out of the pen.

          They will do this: DL Jorge, activate Garcia, DL Garcia, activate Moeller.

          • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

            Wouldn’t it have to be a 60-day DL thing to open the 40 man, though?

            • whozat

              Garcia’s on the 40-man. they put jorge on the 15-day to open a slot on the 25 and call up garcia. Thus, when they 60-day him, his spot opens on the 40-man roster AND the 25-man. I believe that, if he’s not in the bigs, he would stay on the 40-man while on the DL (as is the case now). Then they add Moeller to both rosters.

              • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

                Ah, there we go. Thanks whozat.

              • Rick in Boston

                If I’m not mistaken, the process wouldn’t require a 60-day move. Unless I missed a transaction at the end of spring training, there should be a 40-man spot open. Did Logan take it?

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

                  No, our 40 man is full. Chad Huffman took the last spot.

                  • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

                    Filliam H. Muffman strikes again!

    • First Time Poster

      I’ve read that the first roster move the Yanks will make if they have to add someone to the 40-man is the Garcia move.

      • Stephen

        Last year when Ian Kennedy had the injury we couldn’t 60 day him. What is different with Garcia? I thought they have to be injured on the mlb level.

  • dkidd

    si cover jinx. the other three better watch their backs

    /weak minded’d

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Mayor of the Draft

      Heh, at least you admitted it.