Game 87: In 3-D!
ByThe next big thing in entertainment is going to be 3-D TV, and YES is making history tonight by broadcasting the first ever baseball game in three dimensions. Granted, you need a fancy 3-D TV set, but if you have one and you’re a Verizon FiOS customer, then you’re in luck. You’ll get to see Mark Teixeira hit baseballs right into your living room. If you don’t, don’t worry, there will be a regular old broadcast as well.
As for the actual game, the Yanks won’t be as lucky as they were yesterday today. Felix Hernandez isn’t getting traded before first pitch, so they’re stuck facing the guy that two-hit them in the Bronx last week. Hopefully the Yanks went to town in the video between then and now and will be better prepared for King Felix tonight.
Here’s your starting nine, on the final 10pm ET start of the season…
Brett Gardner, LF
Nick Swisher, DH – this will be his fifth time DH’ing in the last eight games
Mark Teixeira, 1B
Alex Rodriguez, 3B
Robbie Cano, 2B
Curtis Granderson, CF
Colin Curtis, RF
Frankie Cervelli, C
Ramiro Pena, SS
Javy Vazquez, SP
Three lefties in a row? Joe Girardi‘s gone mad, mad I tells ya!
Anyway, like I said, 10pm ET start tonight with YES carrying the game. I’m not sure how this whole 3-D thing works as far as channels and what not, but I assume everyone tunes into YES until further notice. Enjoy the game, no matter how many dimensions you watch it in.






Is anyone planning on watching in 3D? I’m interested to hear some reviews.
I don’t have a 3D TV but I plan on watching it on the 3D channel on Fios if it allows me to.
I guess I’m not, it shows up as 2 separate pictures.
I live in a fairly upscale suburb. I know ZERO PEOPLE with a 3D TV.
3D sucks! It will fuck up your eyes!!
What the fuck is going on in that picture?
LOL @ that picture.
Also I’m kinda jealous.
Personally, I’m more excited by the prospect of a Dave Niehaus/Ken Singleton team doing the play-by-play than the 3D.
With that lineup it looks like Joe decided to start his mini-vacation today.
Colin Curtis, Frankie Cervelli, Ramiro Pena. I would like to say it looks like the Yankees wont get more than 2 hits against Felix tonight, either, but I predict either Cervelli or Pena will have a random 10-hopper ground ball find a hole for some big hit that is purely the result of stupid BABIP, while Cano will have at least 2 line drives caught by perfectly positioned fielders.
Anyway, with the way Vazquez has been pitching it should still be a fun game to watch. I’ll probably fall asleep halfway through thanks to John Flaherty though…
Melvin was sick =(.
He says he’s better now, though, and such things are of critical importance to RAB.
Also, HOLY SHIT Phillies game. And Texas game.
Lee is the biggest bust in Rangers history (Non-Clyde division)
And they could have taken Dave Winfield…
Wait, FIOs owners can see this game in 3D? AWESOME
if they shelled out a few grand for a 3D tv and whatever it costs for glasses which I heard will run a person another 100+ for extras.
hahahaha cliff lee getting beat by the orioles…
and tillman with his 7 ERA shutting out texas
hahahahahahha
hahahaha cliff lee getting beat by the orioles…
and tillman with his 7 ERA shutting out no-hitting texas
hahahahahahha
FTFY
What happened to the strikethrough tags I set up around shutting out?
holy crap i just put the game on and noticed tillman was no-hitting the rangers
this makes me LOL
Over/under on hits by the Yankees: 3
over
I predict Felix will only last 7. We can then hit the bullpen…hard.
There’s 1.
http://www.multichannel.com/ar.....ecasts.php
That lists all the 3D channels.
That picture looks like an Anderson Cooper wet dream.
Did anybody else get 10 free days of MLB.tv for voting Swish into the ASG?
I think everyone who voted for that thing did. Nice, though.
Me! Yay!!!!!! I just saw it.
I didn’t. I got a coupon for 15% off my next MLB.com purchase. Perhaps because I’m already an MLB.tv subscriber.
Ditto, on both accounts.
I bet when A-Rod retires from Baseball, he could pass the audition to be a Rockette. He’s definitely got the flexibility in the legs for it.
http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhu.....ckette.jpg
Unlike a certain ex-mayor..
For those with Cablevision, channel 1300 is showing up in the guide info as YES3D and claims to be showing the game. I’m not getting anything at all on the channel, but I have a low end cable package and no 3D TV, so I have no idea if I should be able to see anything.
You won’t see anything on a 3D channel without the right 3D equipment.
I’m confused. Why is Lorenz there suddenly instead of Singleton?
Singleton’s doing the 3-D broadcast I believe.
Oh, I thought it was just a different picture thing, but the same audio. Guess not.
I know some people here like Lorenz, but this is the only combo that could be more boring than Singleton and Flaherty. Ugh…
wow that is interesting
what happened to kenny singleton tonight?
What the hell good is 3D TV if I have to wear funky 3D glasses? How am I going to watch the game and still see my computer screen so I can chat on RAB?
Has RAB announced 3D Game Threads to go along with the YES 3D broadcast? Did I miss that somewhere?
BB Tonight is on. Cliff Lee’s troubles started from the get-go facing COREY PATTERSON. Wow. Cesar Frigging Izturis hit a HR off Lee too. Dayum.
Maybe Lee had jet lag.
Think about how the New York media would have exploded if we completed the trade for Lee, and he got beat up by the Orioles. It is funny just to think about it. “He can’t pitch in New York!!! The MENTALITY!!!”
No hitter ova!
Gotta steal now Brett, capitalize on ever opportunity.
So much grit.
I’m gonna have nightmares
http://www.helium.com/items/18.....ling-event
That’s really scary. I hope it doesn’t happen and can be prevented from happening again.
How do you find these things?
Nothing like unsupported rumor mongering. For comparison, Nigerian oil spills have totaled the maximum estimates for the Gulf Oil Spill every 2 years. For the last 50 years.
Ugh. Arizona’s broadcast crew is making their case for Jack Morris in the HOF. They cited him as a bulldog and a big game pitcher.
Arizona’s broadcast crew is really bad. Also, when Pettitte is eligible for HOF consideration, I cry thinking about how dumb the arguments for him are going to be (especially in comparison to Moose, who is much more deserving) and how I’ll have to say mean things about him to these people.
Jack Morris has a HOF case because of one game.
Real nice Brett, real nice.
damn that sucked
Balls. Could have used that steal on my fantasy team, too.
boo.
great job texy
Brett should be on 3B right now.
Brett could’ve scored on that middling fly ball.
Maybe it sounds like this because he got thrown out, but I don’t like sending Gardner against Felix. You’re not likely to get a lot of base runners against him so running probably isn’t worth it.
Oh and Javy made Ichiro looked silly.
The only thing that ever gets Brett out is a perfect throw, though. Props to the catcher.
Yeah, I was listening to the radio, so I didn’t see the throw.
And naturally, Sterling didn’t mention that it was a perfect throw.
He said it beat Gardner by “half a step.”
Didn’t know balls could run! Well done, John. Suzyn must be so proud.
That, and he slid headfirst.
Disagree with you for the same reason.
Yeah, I get that side.
How about this? Curtis jacks one out right now and then Javy pitches a CGSO. Deal?
I hate this myth that Figgins was a utility guy. He played 99, 105, and 154 games at 3B from ’07-’09. That’s not a utility player.
Keith Hernandez is really creepy. I just saw his Bloomberg Sports commercial. *shudders*
yeah its extremely creepy
I’m not driving him to the airport!
IETC!
Two of my favorite episodes.
That, my friends, is one magic loogie!
Weensy strike zone.
Did you guys catch this:
Flaherty says: Branyon “hustles it up” … The music in the stadium playing that moment was the “Hustle” jingle. Flaherty is quick on his feet.
Broken clock.
Blind squirrel.
Etc.
There’s alot of weird music played at Safeco.
playing a little MJ is never a bad thing
As YS 2 weeks ago, they were playing really wierd, bad 80′s sounding music for the Yankees hitters. It was very strange.
good job javy
Could the Swisher Dhing be because Girardi wanted to put Curtis in the lineup over russo and thames and that curtis is a better fielder than Swisher?
Why is the myth of Swisher-as-bad-fielder still being perpetuated?
Michael Kay is alive, isn’t he?
I absolutely don’t think Swisher is a bad fielder, and I actually think that he is incredibly improved over last year, my feeling was that maybe curtis is better than he is, but i have no clue, Girardi’s the one making the decision, and I’m just trying to theorize why
When and if they get another right-handed OF bat (Werth?), maybe this is our indication that Swish will be the primary DH. Or maybe they want to rest him in advance of the Derby and All-Star game. Or maybe none of the above.
i think average is definitely the hardest to get for a triple crown candidate
I think it might be RBI because it’s so dependent on on other people. You can get hits and HR, but you can’t help if no one is on base for you.
I’d argue that makes it the easiest, granted you play for a high scoring team.
i see what you are saying. makes sense
They’re equally difficult to win. You’re competing with the same player pool for each one. Any argument for either category being more difficult is just an illusion.
Three of the first five batters have reached base…
anyone seeing the blond girl in a red shirt with the chest in the front row? nice
Now that you mention it..
Very.
Wait, wait, wait!!!!!! You’re a guy?!?!?
hahahaha hilarious
Sorry! Last time. I promise.
Ahahahahhahahaa A++++++
Oh wait, I guess this was a reference to the user name and not the fact that Dela G thought I was a dude who sarcastically pretended to be in love with Andy Pettitte. Heh.
Nope. It was in reference to the incident with you.
That’s the rumor.
Honestly, that is the same reaction I had. Sorry Dela.
lol its aight
Good AB for Curtis thus far. End it well, Grandy!
Or not. Dammit.
Meh. At least Grandy worked the count deep.
Bob Lorenz: awesome in every sense of the word.
agreed
I thought Colin Curtis was the ninth hitter in the lineup. There’s still two more guys to go!
So, not Yankee-related, but Scott Kazmir, yikes
He was still in there. But damn, 13 runs charged to Kazmir. He’s really fallen off from his Tampa days.
holy cow, how do they leave kazmir in so long
The Rays obviously made the right move last year.
SMOAK.
Should have traded for Montero.
Haha. I had the same thought. At least Smoak didn’t make a 1st pitch out to end the inning like Brantley. Smoak is supposed to be a 30 hr hitting 1B soon, but i wonder if it wouldn’t help Smoak to send him back to AAA.
Very nice, Javy.
We have a Curry sighting in the booth. Does anyone remember what Michael Kay sounds like? Or care?
It was very weird when his voice came on during that WB Mason commercial last night. I was like, oh, that guy.
That was the worst swing I’ve ever seen. Ever. In the history of forever.
holy crap. Pelfrey gives up 12 hits in 4 innings but only gives up 4 runs? Lucky guy.
All the hits were singles.
That’s like the story of Pelfrey’s season it seems, though lately he’s starting to come back to earth quite abruptly. Welcome to regression to the mean!
That pitch crossed high. Bad umpiring.
That curve was way too high for a K.
That was neck high lol
Swish!!!!!
Swish went to the Home Run Derby a few days early, it would seem.
Swish Nicker!!!
SWISHER!!!
Felix knew it as it left the bat. So did Swish.
I dunno about that. Swish put his head down, and Felix looked pissed that it actually carried out.
He was like “Shit. I thought I was in Seattle, not New York.”
Swisher is unimpressed with your kingliness, Felix.
SEND SWISH TO THE DERBY !!!
oh right … nevermind.
Someone tell Swish the HR Derby is Monday.
SWISH!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like this Javy. I like him a lot.
Arizona’s bullpen held a lead!
You know what your niche is, Alex? Pound the ball. You’re really good at it.
Cano and A-Rod fool around together, eh?
/twelveyearsold’d
I snorted out of laughter because of that, you’re not the only one.
good job alex
good job a-rod
That’s good trivia. I have no idea. I’ll guess Kenny Rogers because he fucking sucked.
Tom Gordon.
Uhh, wait so who is in the booth tonight? And, I dont have a 3dtv, and I still am getting the picture on the 3d channel, granted its all screwed up with like split screen. But, I know for sure that these have to be different announcers on each station. Because, I am not hearing Ken Singleton on Yes HD, but I am on Yes 3D
Lorenz/Flaherty on regular YES.
And Jack Curry as well. He’s definitely there. But who is with Ken Singleton on YES 3D?
By the way, I am a very big fan of Bob Lorenz in the booth. He was in the booth for a Toronto series a few months ago, and I liked him. I am really liking him in the booth.
Answer: Jimmy Key? to the trivia question?
first pitch why!?
It’s nights like this that I wish Posada was in the lineup. Posada/Granderson/Curtis/Pena looks/feels better than Granderson/Curtis/Cervelli/Pena. Damn you, Father Time.
No wonder Javy’s doing well. Two National League lineups on the field tonight.
/sarcasm.sortof.
OH against the Yankees. Totally didn’t see that qualifier.
Trivia booth fail.
The Yankees have a director of mental conditioning?
Yup. He interviewed Cito Culver, amongst others, before the draft to make sure he wasn’t crazy.
Ammendment: Chris Passarella interviewed the potential draftees. He’s stationed in Tampa and works with the farm system. Chad Bohling is the ML mental conditioning coach based in NY.
Should Cashman consider trading for Russell Branyan if he’s truly available?
I don’t think Cash will be attempting any deals with the Mariners any time soon.
Pretty sure we won’t be seeing any more deals between the Yanks and Mariners as long as Zduriencik is there.
I’ll give you Figgins for Cano, straight up! Hello? Hello, Brian?
where the hell did that miss
Too much of the plate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpvufrpAhls
Dr. K!
Fastball, slider, changeup and curve
Step up to the plate, if you got the nerve
Felix is making Pena look like a Little League player.
If we only had Cody Ransom.
First third basemen in New Yankee Stadium history. A fact that makes A-Rod cry himself to sleep, until he remembers his 597 homeruns and World Series victory.
Oof. Arizona’s first round pick failed his physical, I think that was the 10th or 11th pick. Unsurprisingly, his school ran him into the ground the last few weeks of the season. 150+ pitches a few times.
6th overall, nevermind. That’s even worse.
WTF? Why would they do that to his arm? 150 pitches!?
His school didn’t care, he was leaving and they were in the NCAA postseason.
Dayum. Where does that exactly put the D-Backs in terms of being able to sign Loux?
I assume he won’t sign now.
Can the 2 sides mutually agree to waive the physical portion? How material is a physical for a non-ML contract? I mean if the D-Backs can sign Loux, maybe they should. Like a Nick Adenhart situation.
Oh it’s important. Not going to give the kid seven figures (or even six) knowing he’s already damaged goods.
Poor kid might lose out on a lot of money.
Steal attempt, take two?
attaboy grit!
I love Jack Curry
A quality Swish impression.
Jack Makhani rules, too.
But Bexy! How could you?
Don’t worry, I still love you more!
Figures, the guy was covering close to 2nd base with Gardner moving.
What the hell are with these W.B. Mason commercials? Is there a story you’re supposed to following along with?
Who fucking but!
Yea, I think so.
There’s also one for the Phillies w/the same people.
I’ve finally seen all 6 parts now.
Nice job their Striking out Mark Teixeira
Oh Wait!!!
Seriously I don’t know why this team would need a Cliff Lee rental. This rotation is beast.
The Mariners dont exactly sport a decent lineup. They’re dead last in slugging in the majors. Javy should look damn good against the quad-A lineup.
Because Hughes has an innings limit, Burnett is inconsistent, supposedly nobody trusts Javy and Pettitte is 38.
Why is that hard to grasp?
Hughes limit is only 180, Burnett has always been inconsistent, trusting Javy has nothing to do with it and Pettitte is having a career year.
I’m not slow as you are implying I am as I don’t see the point but adding CLiff Lee is a luxury to the second best rotation in baseball. Unless second best isn’t good enough apparently.
Second bets in the AL I mean.
Hughes will hit that inning limit before the postseason starts, very true, I agree but people always talk about it, and that can change with the snap of your fingers.
Yes, adding Lee was a luxury. To me it was one they could afford and would make them verrrrrrry hard to be beat in any playoff series.
man javy is on fire
why they thought of getting cliff lee when they dont need him is beyond me
amen
Did Cervelli just catch Saunders peeking?
He initially set up high, and then set up super low and outside
Should we start getting excited after one inning or two?
after the 7th IMO
Glad Kay’s not in the booth… or we’d get another long discussion about not discussing these events
Felix’s pitch count isn’t too high. Hopefully he nets one of those rare CG losses when its all said and done.
cliff lee had one of those today!
Javy is spinning a gem.
Man you have to be kidding me
Yankees scouting Nolasco, wow..
Javier Vazquez 2.0 basically…I guess they really don’t like Vazquez or Burnett or are worried about Hughes’ innings.
The Mariners are my new least favorite team (non-Red Sox division).
Can’t see anyone over taking the Angels for me.
Also not too fond of the Mets and Phillies, because of where I live, but I can mostly ignore them.
Damn. Could’ve been a double.
Unnecessary jump is unnecessary.
/Pedroia’d
Pedroia would have bounced off the wall and rolled around the warning track just for the dirt.
damn that was a great play
Seattle has two Death to Flying Things OFs.
Everytime I c RAB commercial on YES, I feel proud cuz im apart of something that’s pretty cool.
Yea, it’s the first time I’ve seen an RAB commercial. Great job with the site, guys. And congrats!
Thanks, much appreciated.
Havey’s going deep tonight!
Love Cano’s arm strength.
A no-hitter would be an awesome way to top off the first half. Combined with the best record in baseball and leading the division by two games.
If Tex had hung on to the ball, Ichiro would’ve been out.
So much for a potential no-no.
that changeup is filthy tonight
i love how we are finally seeing the 2009 version of vasquez, and the arm is getting stronger
Of course Ichiro busts it up. at least javy’s not hurt.
No ;(
I really do not like Ichiro in any way, shape, or form
I actually like him more than I used to, not that I necessarily like him.
He showed a lot of respect at last year’s All-Star Game, by placing flowers on George Sisler’s grave and was supposedly starstruck when he met the president. I thought that was kinda cool.
Holy crap that was almost awesome
I’ve always hated Ichiro!. Fucking asshole.
uhm… error…
that was a bullshit hit call
A little hometown cooking on that scoring decision.
People, that was a hit. If it doesn’t hit Javy, it’s in center field. Just deal with it and move on. It’s only 1-0.
dont worry about ichiro, throw strikes
Pretty much this.
For all we hate Ichiro, I think everyone here would appreciate his pre-ASG rant.
fuck you ichiro!
(Edited by RAB: Don’t ever use racial slurs again.)
Hey now.
Yea, not cool.
Watch the racial language plz
I am offended by that.
No need for that.
That was out of line and uncalled for!
I just wanted to apologize to everybody I offended. I was just really pissed about the no-hitter gone and wrote some inappropriate stuff. I know what I said was wrong and once again I’d like to apologize to everybody and move on
Don’t worry me forgive you, JMV
why is he scared to throw now lol.
good job javy, you have been performing outstandingly since may 12
Javy at 93 pitches through 6 – so you’re ecstatic if he gives you 7 shutout innings here.
Felix at 79 – so even with 2 grind-out innings, he’s probably going 8.
Everytime the Yanks get a no-no going on the west coast, a Suzuki just has to hit a ball off the pitcher to break it up (like Kurt in Hughes vs A’s).
And I think that one hit Hughes, too.
Oops, sorry, didn’t read carefully.
ha good to see 62 percent of the people agreed with me on the average
and i love Bob Lorentz
How can any of them be more difficult if you’re competing against the same playing pool?
Well, you do often see guys who are leaders in HR and RBI not leaders in AVG.
Figuring that HRs and RBIs tend to go together – but power and batting average don’t
Cervelli and Pena are just overmatched against Felix
i think if you look at it, a lot more people have won HR+ RBI than AVG+HR/RBI that’s why i think average is the hardest
I’d be sending Granderson here.
Interesting decision if Granderson does get into scoring position – do you pinch-hit for Pena with Jeter?
My fantasy team could have used the no hitter tonight.
What just happened? CF camera went out.
Err… did they just lose all of their cameras?
Uh did anyone else’s TV go insane there for a bit?
Woo hoo for technical difficulties. They’ve lost the main camera!
I blame the 3D shit.
What the hell happened? Is the camera man sleeping on the job?
YES just had a freak out.
They must want us to watch the game in 1D.
Yeah it is.
2 outs. Pena at the plate. Gotta send Granderson.
Apparently not.
Bottom of the order is full of suck tonight.
http://jay-mariotti.fanhouse.c.....-new-york/
I now wish that Cliff Lee was traded for Montero.
Hawk Harrelson is right – Mariotti is a hineybird
Mariotti is just the guy trying to scream the loudest, basically.
This is somewhat disappointing coming from him. I thought he was a non-NY writer who “got” the Yankees. I remember a few years ago on Around the Horn they brought up the frequent HR calls at Yankee Stadium, and everyone else on the show was like, “It’s stupid, act like you’ve been there before,” and Mariotti was the only one that understood it as part of the culture of Yankee Stadium, as he called it.
The Glenn Beck of baseball journalism.
Oh, come now. NO ONE is as bad as Glenn Beck.
…Shit just got real.
damn, king felix is on fire
damn, king felix is
on fireKing Felix, facing some really, really poor hittersFTFY.
Wow, do I not like that FTFY.
I meant like Pena and Cervelli.
No, I know what you meant. I just don’t like the “FTFY.” To me, it just comes off so condescending and smug and superior.
Like when someone did it to you last night.
Ah, gotcha. It’s a bit of a meme around here, I think. I didn’t take offense at all when someone did that to my post (I don’t even remember what it was), and I certainly don’t mean it in a condescending/smug/I’m so superior way. I don’t think others do, either.
Plus Dela is awesome, he knows what I mean
Last night it was about 50%/100% of HOF voters regarding Jack Morris and pitching to the score.
There are some on this site I’m not so sure about after yesterday…
“Noodle bat” is my favorite player description ever, btw.
Good to know I wasn’t the only one whose TV got an extended view of Rob Thompson.
Can they just stop showing replays of that hit? It’s still a freaking 1-0 game and now they’ve got 2 guys on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does anybody think that the Tigers are trying to keep a tight lid against media leaks in handling Porcello’s availability.
Why would the Tigers trade this kid? The rumors just seem alittle crazy but the rumors are out there.
It’s the weirdest rumor yet. Trade your young promising pitcher when you’re contending and his value is at its lowest yet. Absurd.
If i’m Omar Minaya, i’m working Dombrowski day-and-night and offering Wilmer Flores and Jon Neise.
ruh roh
Come on, Javy! Get one big grounder!
Lame.
Suck on the Water.
Oh peace, Justin.
Yea, I really think he needs to go back to AAA for a bit. He looks pretty bad.
Cervelli starting to annoy me more all the time.
But then they start playing the Jeopardy music, and that annoys me even more.
Oh, and now “Strangers in the Night.”
They’re just so clever.
C’mon Javy, get through this…
A decent throw gets him.
One more pitch, Javy! Let’s go!
YES out again. Hi Brett!
More camera issues.
Again with the cameras?
Yep, I’m really blaming this 3D shit for the technical difficulties.
Wow, the umps just totally fucked up this at bat.
lol give javy an extra pitch!
Um, what just happened?
Heh, and here’s the 4-1 pitch…
Ever see Mr. Baseball with Tom Selleck?
“Swing and a miss, Strike 4!”
“And there’s Strike 5!”
“Strike 6!”
Ball four.
Ball eight.
Ball twelve…and Vaughn has walked the bases loaded! How are they laying off pitches that close?!
Classic.
“Eliminator lined to right, a base hit.”
“Humiliator line to left, another base hit.”
“There’s some real pus lined to center.”
http://www.theonion.com/articl.....o-65,6824/
Did the ump just call an obvious ball a strike?
Also, hooray for extra strikes.
What in the world? #robotumps
damn it javy, you should’ve given him a fastball
Come on Javy!
/hopes for crazy Milton not talented Milton
Second-guess time.
This is Javys game
That’s all sorts of awesome for Javy
Kudos to Girardi for sticking with him
Lorenz and Curry were on it too – Bradley hit a HR on a changeup off Javy… and the first two inside FBs set that up
Can you tell me with a straight face that you wouldn’t have been cursing out both Girardi and Vazquez had a run scored?
Want an honest answer?
Heck yeah – figured Javy was gassed when he lost Saunders
Actually, the correct answer is “No,” because, of course, I cannot see your face.
I think I would’ve been angry at Girardi, but not Javy, in that situation.
PENA!!!
teh Pena!!!11!!
Pena sure does have nice range.
Ramiro!
oh yes
Nice play by Ramiro.
NICE, please get insurance runs
FISTPUMPS!
Does Jeter catch that? I think … no.
Pastajumping?
Javy has the best fist pump, non-Pettitte or Joba-divison.
Nothing beats a Pettitte fistpump
http://img576.imageshack.us/im.....psmall.gif
http://img59.imageshack.us/img.....stpump.gif
Hnnngh.
tex is on fire
Tex in July (SSS, beware)
.353/.439/.824
The man has been Bondslike in nine games.
He rocked in June as well.
A-bomb time.
I’ll take an A-walk.
Great at bat Alex. Come on Cano!
great eye, alex
Oh no
Looked like Cano fouled it – and no way Bard caught it before it hit the dirt. Bad call
yeah
what a crap call
that was a foul ball?
Just got here. How come, with just 5 base runners the whole game, Javy used 117 pitches through 7? Were there a lot of full counts or something?
Yep. Fair number of K’s and two-strike fouls, too.
Here’s the thing with the new Avis commercial. If we are to assume he’s a Red Sox fan, why would he want to be roll called?
WTF the ball hit the dirt. Shouldn’t that be a foul ball???
Fuck you ump.
He’s not been so hot the last inning.
I just got here, what else has he done?
Saunders took a ball on a 3-1 pitch and suddenly the count was 3-2. He still walked.
I kinda feel bad for the Avis guy. He too should get his name chanted!
Ah! The Voice of Michael Kay!
Dear Rabbis:
Please come to my job and do roll call.
Sincerely,
Matt’s constantly hungry ego
Joba’s ERA is under 5. My anxiety level, however, is still over 5.
What’s it at now?
4.95
No, I meant your anxiety level after he gives up a first pitch bloop single.
Exactly. I was about to post something very similar.
Here we go…
Can we get a 6 out save?
Baseball needs replay with challenges. Baseball needs a Commissioner that is at least a few centuries removed from the dark ages.
Quote I’d like to see in response to that:
“But things were so much better in the Dark Ages. We didn’t have things like west coast baseball and pitch counts and integrated baseba…I mean, things were just better.”
Not watching the game so I don’t know if this has been mentioned multiple times, but this would be Javy’s 150th career win.
Now Joba is rattled.
throw the ball!
Ichiro likes to pose in the box with that outstretched bat.
Dang it. Beat out the near GIDP.
great play by joba
Now just get Ichiro “auto-out” Figgins.
*Chone
Dont you get Tiger Woods if you combine Ichiro and Figgins?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……………….
Not sure about the appropriateness of that comment.
“Perfect throw?!?”
My ass.
Joba’s FB must be frigging straight as an arrow.
I hate fucking Joba
Yeah that sounds like it’d be bad and uncomfortable.
/bad joke’d
/sorry’d
haha Ichiro wasn’t going to try for third.
OMG … Joba….
Yay Frankie.
Danger Will Robinson.
Put in Mo, now.
Joba is gonna blow it. Man I’m so sick of this guy.
We’re not asking for perfection Joba…just consistency. And not making half your appearances harder than they should be
Walk him and deal w/Lopez?
Not going as planned. Come on, Joba.
Sigh.
/sigh
Walk the bastard. Also, D-Rob to the 8th, please.
I aprove of this.
Trying to stay positive but Joba is giving me that 3-run double/GS vibe
:sigh:
You were saying?
Unfortunately – You were right
2 bloop singles and piss-poor command.
Bad luck and bad pitching.
Fuck.
…
Wow a grand slam to LOPEZ. Send this scrub down.
Well, that just happened.
wow wowowowowowow
Well that was terrible.
I can’t believe it.
Well shit.
JOBA IS A COMPLETE UNMITIGATED DISASTER.
UGH.
I’m so sorry Javy. There goes win 150.
Seven game winning streak over.
Game ain’t over.
So what exactly does Joba have to do to lose the eight inning role?
My feelings exactly.
Joba has got to go! Anywhere, but he’s got to go!
I’m so glad Joba ‘earned’ the 8th inning job.
His ERA was 5 before the grand salami..
No, it was just under.
Would it be an overreaction to suggest that Joba might benefit from a stint in Scranton?
No.
What’s he gonna do there?
Probably dominate until he comes back up.
Learn how to pitch, instead of throw?
Maybe it would shake him up. Worked for Cliff Lee in 97
07… sorry
Nope.
Javy deserved better than that. Where was Mo for the 5 out save?
i thought about that myself
Mo is getting rest because he is supposedly hurt.
I say this as a vehement Joba supporter, Joba-as-starter proponent, etc…
He should be sent down, broken down & rebuilt.
His mechanics are in shambles, his confidence has to be shaky, and his results have been abhorrent.
A huge talent is floundering, and the team needs to do something about it.
I 100% agree. The Blue Jays did it to Halladay way back when and Joba is doing no good as a reliever here.
STOP WITH THE FUCKING HALLADAY COMPARISONS. THIS IS NYC NOT TORONTO!!!!!
At what point will you guys realize this is what he is and all he ever will be?
Good point.. Very good point
No he needs to be traded immediately for whatever scraps we can get for him. He’s done as a Yankee. He’ll never cut it and never could. There is no salvaging this. Thanks for finally admitting what was obvious to those with eyes last year.
*facepalm*
I’ll try responding dispassionately to you.
Why would you trade for ‘scraps?’ What good are ‘scraps?’
Why not just relegate him to the minors & eventually release him if you hate him so much?
But the question is, if you have a mismanaged asset that is hurting you, while at the same time having the potential to help you as a positive, why not correct the management error & try to properly develop your asset?
But if you hate him to hate him to hate him, then fine, enjoy yourself.
Is it too late to trade Joba for Halladay?
This inconsistent bullshit ain’t gonna cut it anymore more.
The Yanks need to find something to do with this guy because the way its going right now just is not working.
Wow. Changed the handle and everything huh?
I don’t think he’s done, I don’t think this is his true talent level, and I don’t think the team has done a good job coaxing the potential out of him.
There is hope for Joba yet, but he needs to be broken down & have his mechanics rebuilt.
If that means we dont see Joba for the rest of the season but see an improved version next season (as a reliever), i think i’d be very cool with that route.
Gotta trade for a reliever though.
By no means he’s done. The kid has too much potential to be pitching this bad. He has some of the best raw stuff in the Majors. I’m not saying he’s a bad pitcher, but change is really in order.
He DOES need to be sent down for two reasons: 1) To fix his mechanics/way of attacking hitters. 2) Sending him down to AAA from “Set-up Man” will knock him off his feet.
I still got faith in the kid.
Every single person who ever pulled a Jenna Jameson on Joba Chamberlain should shoot themselves immediately. I blame you as much as him.
I have no idea what this means.
do we have a 3 run rally in our bones????
Demote Joba and bring back Albie. Promote Robertson to the 8th.
Joba has no business facing major league hitters in pressurized situation.
I have an idea. Why don’t the Yankees trade for Cliff Lee, send Joba to the minors and use Hughes in the 8th inning? Oops . . . they tried that.
Javy should shit in his cornflakes
Ramiro should get in on that too. A jumping catch to save a run is not easy.
Well maybe not send him down, but he can’t be the bridge to Mariano anymore. Maybe the Yanks need to get the RP they’ve needed since Spring.
I really hate Joba now. After this season, I want him gone.
wow… joba… what’s going on with him?
did anyone notice flash say that the rbi changes the “complexion of the game?” understatement?
Send Joba to AAA to start.
Send Joba to AAA to start.
Send Joba to AAA to start.
Send Joba to AAA to start.
Send Joba to AAA to start.
This, this , and more of this.
+62
It’s really amazing how far Joba has regressed from his stellar relief debut a couple years ago.
gotta feel for javy…he pitched a great game only to have joba blow another one…
This bullpen is a disaster. When’s Alfredo Aceves coming back?
had another setback … i doubt we’ll be seeing him
The guy was rattled after the bloop single. He needs to be sent down and have his head examined.
So sick of people making excuses for this guy.
Well said. He is a regressing enigma that needs to grow up
. . . that needs to grow up?
?
Only Joba could screw up a 48-0 streak of wins after leading in the 8th. WTG Joba!
No, it was leading after the 8th.
He’s blown games before in the 8th, remember?
Well if we’re 48-0 leading going into the eighth, you know, Joba would have played a huge role in that…
(I think they said leading after the eighth)
I like that we both italicized after.
Oh good, the bottom of the order!
lmao I thought the same thing.
Well if a positive is needed. Javy has had a great June and July so far.
The over hyped future fails again. Law of diminishing returns.
Yeah, Phil Hughes and Brett Gardner really suck!
Oh…wait, establishing two-of-three big leaguers in 2009/2010 is a bad track record? K.
Um did I mention those two? Oh wait I didn’t, just the Joba. But thanks for putting words into my mouth. Your a real talent.
You must be thrilled.
Yes, Brian Cashman, I am thrilled joba came in and sucked to holy high hell. You people and your comments when someone rails on failure crack me up.
It’s not just what you say. It’s what you say combined with when you say it and how you say it. You’re absent the entire game yet you just happen to show up when Joba gives up the lead? Please. And, yes, I know you were out the entire night and just got back in and didn’t have time to comment on a Yankee blog on a Saturday night.
Oh so my timing is what is wrong. Actually, was just listening to the radio and reading all the brilliant comments by yourself and the other GM’s in training. I know that I will never be a major league GM and I know that showing irrational emotion on this site is forbidden, lest one is ready to accept the wrath of the Cashman clones, but seriously, get over yourself. You and others think that making swipes at people for snide comments of frustrations elevates you to some superior baseball knowledge that the person who made comment doesn’t possess, rather than just looking at the comment as an off the cuff comment of frustration.
Yet, in reality, those of you have no fucking idea how much someone knows and whether or not they are just enjoying the game and saying what you don’t have the balls to say because your elitist crowd might take away your Hamptons home, God forbid.
So when you are done staring at yourself in the mirror and admiring all the small points that you think make you the exalted one, let me know. Otherwise, just enjoy the game and let people vent when they feel like venting. To some, baseball is just fun to watch and express frustration as a fan.
Smart move by Wakamatsu to leave Hernandez in.
Oh, then he gives up a double.
Anyway, what are the chances Hernandez fills one of the vacated spots at the ASG after his last two starts against the Yankees? 1000%?
Another blown game by Joba…
Is it just me or does Curtis look like Tom Hanks’ son, Colin Hanks.
No pinch hitter??
Posada’s on deck, right?
Fuck.
I bet you Javy is fucking steamed right now. He deserved the W.
WHAT!
WHAT@!!!!!?
Joba to Scranton? lol. He is not even a AAA pitcher at this point.
He needs to go to Tampa and completely rework his way back up as a pitcher.
I have been saying this since the first month of the season after watching the way he was throwing.
I 100% agree with you.
Of course Felix gets that call. Home town and all.
The curve ball called strike against Gardner earlier on was an even worse call – it was well over the belt when it crossed the plate
It ain’t over yet
How in the fuck is that a strike? Oh, right, ’cause Curtis is a rookie.
Sup Jeets. JoPo up next?
Will someone explain to me that bullshit call? Tell me how Curtis swung at that.
He didn’t swing. The ump made a terrible call.
It’s amazing how quickly everyone turns on Joba.
I know he’s been hugely inconsistent and all, but, damn, it’s not like he’s past hope.
How many of you thought this on Wednesday?
the man blows game after game.
It’s never a clean inning for Joba when it counts. He pulls a Bard every time
How QUICKLY?? Have you not been paying attention this year?
It’s the sinking feeling you get when he comes in. I literally said “Ah, crap” when they announced him.
Not an excuse for all this “I want him traded” crap. I know you didn’t say that yourself.
Think about this: how much would you get for him if you all think he’s garbage and past hope?
Some other team will think like you guys do and think “we can salvage him as a starter and maybe he’ll be the next Halladay”
That alone will bring in some value.
Yes, but the Yankees aren’t going to give up on him, so forget it.
He’s past hope. Let’s stop playing these games, trying to salvage him. We should be trying to salvage him in hopes we can sucker some other team into giving us something of value. He’ll never be a prime time performer for the Yankees in any role at all.
Best. Hit. Ever.
Hey guys, here’s a real novel idea. Joba was never that good to begin with. In any case, I don’t know what else he has to do to lose the 8th inning role.
Idiot,
Thanks for the great analysis, champ.
“He was never that good to begin with” is not great analysis, either.
This
OK, I’m still slow with these internet memes, and this is the second time someone has used this in reply to something I’ve said. What are you saying?
Basically that they agree with whatever was written above.
When someone posts something that perfectly sums up your thoughts on a subject instead of reposting it, you just post “This”. It’s the equivalent of “Yeah! What he said!”
OK, thanks for the info!
No problem. Don’t be afraid to ask.
It’s pretty fucking obvious it’s true. Once the scouting report about his bad control came out he’s been nothing but a average-to-bad pitcher. He’s shown NOTHING outside of what, 20 appearances in 2007? Please.
Well at least this time you offered some evidence.
Have you looked at his stats from 2008 to this year? Pick anything, tell me what doesn’t scream “I’m just not that good”
2008 – 2.60 ERA 10.6 K/9
2010 – 9.9 K/9 3:1 K:BB ratio
I’m not arguing your point, I was commenting on what you first didn’t and then did say.
You obviously didnt get the memo, homegrown talent always gets a longer leash in these parts.
He’s a rich man’s Farnsworth at best. And that’s being extremely generous.
Oooooh, another idiot.
This.
A bit of BABIP luck.
So what happens with Joba? What do the Yankees do after tonight? They HAVE to do something, right?
They won’t. Girardi will say Joba had some command issues. That’s it. He’s our 8th inning guy, for better or worse.
Figures. Joba and Montero for Prince, straight up.
Doubt anything will happen.
Wadda ya say Georgie.
Gardian!
I’m trying to think of something suitable Joba could do for the lineup if they bail his ass out here…but my mind is in the gutter.
How great would a walk-off GritSlam be?
Thinking the same thing, though it would be a go ahead, not a walk-off.
Would be really great, if only they weren’t on the road..
It would be great but for the fact you can’t have a walk-off if you’re the visiting team.
Shit, I’m an idiot.
ietc
Remember in spring training when Girardi made a point to say that Joba’s spot wasnt guaranteed? What exactly has he done since then to keep his spot?
Get the bat to Swish!
Only Felix and Verlander could still throw 97 after 115 pitches in the 9th.
Jimenez did it multiple times this year
the last pitch of Jimenez’s no-hitter, his 128th pitch, was 101 MPH.
Joba has a -.692 WPA today That’s a lot. But he also had a 2.35 FIP and 3.24 xFIP coming into today, so maybe we’re over-reacting. But that sill doesn’t change the fact that he should be starting.
Still not as bad as Ryan Franklin’s WPA from Thursday, I think it was.
FIP doesn’t count balls in play. As long as he doesn’t walk 100 guys and give up a ton of homers, its actually possible to have a good FIP but suck otherwise.
Good point. From what I can see it’s a combination of giving up a few weak hits, so he’s still getting unlucky, like what we just saw, and then giving up some really hard hit ones. You’re probably right, he’s worse than his FIP suggests.
Jesus fucking christ….
FIP? xFIP? WPA?
Do your own eyes tell you anything? Should we just move to computerized simulations?
lol
Joba makes 2009 Brad Lidge look impressive
He should be starting…in AAA.
Joba didnt just cough up the lead, he made it near impossible for us to tie it back up. 3 runs against Felix is a ridiculous task … Joba’s execution was such FAIL.
omg that was so high!
another bullshit call
I wanna see Fangraphs’ strike zone after the game – I KNOW Javy did NOT get some of these high-strike calls that Felix is getting
Fuck yooooooou ump!!!!
Wow. Lance Barksdale is Yankee hating.
Well if you know your history, you’d know that anyone with that name would be a Yankee hater.
Yo, Barksdale, it’s where the ball crosses, not where the catcher moves it to. What a fucking joke.
Ump must have a date.
That was a terrible strike call o_O
I WANT FUCKING ROBOT UMPS
Totally agree.
Gardy, get the bat to Swish,
I know everyone plays their role, but by my count, this is the second game this season that Joba has been solely responsible for losing. that is a huge swing in the course of a season, especially in a division as tight as ours.
Honestly, I think there have been more.
But you think two games is a huge swing in the course of a season?
That’s approximately 3.2% of the season. Not altogether that huge.
Cover of the NY POST tomorrow, A-Rod laughing while Yanks are down by 3 in the 9th.
That was an unfortunate video pick-up.
Jeter was too, after his “hit.”
But of course Cap’n .275 always gets a free pass.
The post and daily news are bird cage lining. Barely one step above the weekly world news.
We should settle the ‘pen hole in the most definitive fashion.
Trade for Joakim Soria.
They’ll never trade him
At least that was a strike, haha.
Swing the fucking bat, Brett.
Poor Javy never gets help…at least it seems that way to me
No, he has below 3.5 runs per game of support.
I feel the same way. It seems like a lot of his losses have come because of a dead offense/good opposing pitching.
This was horrible, but hey, we can’t win every game
What’s the celebration about, I’m confused?
they won a game.
Fuck it. Get em’ tomorrow. CC on the hill.
4 game sweep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuck it. get’em tomorrow.
Tonight should’ve ended with a W.
Yes. Win >>>>>>> Loss. Brilliant.
It was a heartbreaker. But, coming into the series, you thought *after the Lee drama* that this game was the only one that favored the M’s. It looked like the Yanks were about to buck the odds, but they didn’t in the end. C’est la vie.
Shitty loss, especially for a Joba lover such as myself. But #28 is on the horizon yet.
Really.
Didn’t expect them to win today, but it still hurts at the end.
Still, you win tomorrow and you have a 6-1 west coast trip. Can’t hope for much better than that.
No shit, but I’m trying to keep a positive attitude bro. That’s how you deal with losses like this.
So tomorrow, we gotta go out, take the series, and head into the break on a W.
another complete game! shit when was the last time we beat felix??!!
Hey Mike, can the heading for the Game Recap be “Yo, Fuck Joba”?
How about “Joba,, Barksdale, ruin Javy’s gem”
Can’t put that much blame on Barksdale, really.
He gave Felix 2 outs. TWO OUTS. He missed the foul tip in the dirt. Barksdale is a joke.
Not saying he isn’t. But when you’ve only scored 1 run in the first place, you can’t expect to win.
This. And RAB will be my new homepage. Not even joking.
That Felix fist-pump was Papelbon-esque. Not sure who I’d rather punch in the face right now – Felix or Joba
I go with Joba
Felix just CG’d the streaking Yankees, give him a break.
Joba’s a scrub. Felix has heart. Joba and that damn ump.
You’re a scrub.
I suggest a double-punch. They’re both annoying.
I had no problem with Felix’s histrionics. The thing is, he didn’t come into a 4-1 game, get three outs and celebrate like a maniac like Papelbon often has. He threw 126 pitches and got 27 outs, and racked up his second complete game win over the Yankees in the last two weeks. Felix is an absolute stud, so I say let him have his fun. It’s unfortunate he beat NYY again, but one has to appreciate just how good this kid is at the same time.
Did I miss something? Did the Mariners just win the World Series?
Maybe Felix did a milestone? I have no idea.
no, its just been years since they won a game. If I recall, the last time they won a game was nine years ago in 2001.
That’s what i was thinking. Did they just win something… besides a game in the middle of the season. By the way felix and lopez were reacting you would of thought they just clinched a trip to the world series.
It was an exciting game. They had a late comeback.
When the Yankees come back late & win in dramatic fashion, especially with a CG performance from your ace, you get pumped up.
You feel how dejected we are from the loss? Well they’re that elated from the win.
King Felix pitched a GREAT game (with a little help from the ump).
Well then…I wonder if that half inning will even be a blip on the WPA graph
Oh well, go for 3/4 tomorrow.
I know berkman is an exception, but this furthers my theory that all men named Lance should be hairdressers.
That game was really awful. Fortunately, it’s one game.
Someone plz do something about Joba kthanx
Sorry to disagree but it was a great game until Joba.
I meant as a whole. Obviously Javy was awesome.
Seriuosly, though, what is there to be done? Every possible scenario probably brings about a negative. Let’s run down the list:
1. Keep running him out there–already hasn’t worked too well.
2. Relegate him to mop up duty–he gets infrequent work and nothing really gets fixed because of that.
3. Send him to the minors–he blows away AAA hitters while not really working on that much.
I guess Option Three is best because at least he could work on his mechanics in a stress free environment, but how likely is he to work on them when he’s just blowing those guys away with his normal routine.
Option Three really is the best at this point. Halladay him. It can’t make him any worse.
Or…
4. By sending him down to AAA, you actually knock some sense into his head and get him thinking mentally positive.
Your assuming Joba would return to his dominant form from years ago. That’s not something i’d bank on at this point. Joba may have the velocity from ’07, but his location is cringe-worthy bad and seasoned AAA hitters will make hard contact on mistakes.
AAA hitters making hard contact is actually something I’d welcome. It would force him to re-evaluate the way he pitches and exhaust any and all methods of mechanics rehabilitation to get to where he and most everyone else knows he can be.
As disappointing as this loss is, maybe it’s the trough that he needs to reach in order for both he and the organization to take notice and do whatever they can to reinvigorate his career.
I know he isn’t Roy Halladay, and that that comparison has been beaten to death, but it’s still worth noting that even a HOF pitcher isn’t infallible and can come across speed bumps, some major, on his way to success. For Joba, the talent is clearly there to be very good, or even great, and we’ve seen flashes of his potential brilliance this very year! When people say he’s been inconsistent, they are acknowledging this very thing — that he’s had moments of outright dominance but he’s yet to show that he can be depended on to do it each time he’s given the ball.
All along, the worry was that Joba’s shoulder injury would prevent him from ever regaining the dynamite stuff he showed in ’07 and ’08. While it’s very unfortunate that his control “varies,” to say the least, that is certainly something that is fixable. I firmly believe that if a patient and methodical approach is taken towards fixing his delivery, he’ll reach heights we may not have seen yet. Remember, he was never properly developed in the first place, so giving up on him would be foolish and even unfair.
BTW, I know that only my first paragraph applies to what you posted but I felt like it would be best for my rant to be kept together rather then strewn about the thread.
I should add that it seems as though he’s regained the stuff we’d once thought was gone forever.
The point isn’t to send him down to let him ‘attack hitters’ or ‘regain confidence.’
It’s to totally reshape the mechanics. It’s to get him to pitch differently.
As he uses new techniques, he won’t immediately blow away hitters. He’ll have to figure it out. As it becomes repeatable, his true talent level will be allowed to come out.
I don’t think your idea of sending him down is the optimal one. And i’m not sure that there’s any other option to get real value out of this player.
Guess it’s time to sign Mike Stanton!
+1 I miss him and Nelly
Unless of course you mean the Marlin’s stud prospect
If I see some dumb kid with a Chamberlain t-shirt on next time I’m at the game, I may have to go all Philly and projectile vomit on him.
You stay classy.
It’s pretty great. I wear a Joba jersey that my lady got me for my birthday a couple years back. It’s got ‘Joba’ as the lettering, and I take so much heat when I go to games it’s comical.
I live in L.A., so I go mostly to Yankee-Angels games. I was also at the final Yankee-Dodgers series, the *maybe* most exciting game of the season.
But I get as much hear from Yankee fans as from fans of the other club. The opposition fans think he’s overrated, etc., but the Yankee fans, especially those who’ve never heard of this blog, really seem to hate him. They have no idea of how fast he was rushed, how little he developed, and so on.
It just sucks, because honed properly, he could be a historic Yankee weapon, but as is, he just looks embarrassing.
+1
Hey lily, we beat Felix tonight.
As if this loss wasn’t bad enough, now we have Eduardo perez saying that the Yankees should move Hughes to the 8th inning role! I almost cried when I heard that.
There’s no fucking way he did this with a straight face.
Completely serious. Even Karl Ravech asked him, “Wait a minute. You’re not recommending they pull Hughes from the rotation are you?” and proceeded to call the idea “Crazy”.
Ravech may be a not-so-subtle-card-carrying member of RSN , but Ravech did good right there to call that idea crazy.
Silver lining: Jose Lopez is one my fantasy team. Great time to finally produce you sack of shit!
This scrap metal commercial makes me so angry when the Yanks don’t win. Why would a teenage girl call another teenage girl about a pile of scrap metal in her driveway?
I say this ALL THE TIME!
damn, frustrating loss
can we bring up juan miranda plz
Sending Joba to AAA is pointless.
He is not going to learn anything in AAA or iron out his mechanics.
At this point, he needs (needed to for months IMO) to be sent down to a lower level like Tampa and learn how to pitch/refine his mechanics.
He is basically an unpolished pitcher right now with terrible mechanics.
His problems are those you see in A ball pitchers.
So true.
At this point, he needs (needed to for months IMO) to be sent down to a lower level like Tampa and learn how to pitch/refine his mechanics.
/Halladay’d
exactly how is his comment Halladay’d?
That’s what they did to Halladay in 2000? when he was really sucking.
Halladay had to do this.
ahh… did not remember that. Thank you for the reminder. But the comparison of Joba to Halliday is like saying an apple and an orange are the same thing.
It’s really not. If you were a Toronto fan, and you had to suffer through the bad Halladay, you would react just thisly.
And this justly. Which is not justly at all.
You’d have no idea of his true talent level, and you’d let your reactionarianism *my word* blind you to the true worth of a disguised asset.
Did you not see some of Joba’s shutdown starts in 2008?
I just don’t get why it’s fashionable to hate the guy. Hughes had quite a few struggles before he dominated the ‘pen last year. But he’s the Phranchise, I guess. And he also got proper time to develop in the minors.
Well, they both had great potential when they started out. So the comparison isn’t way off.
And an Orange and an Apple are still both fruits, so there are comparisons. It’s not like what Matt said wasn’t fitting.
I’m not exactly well versed in the coaching staffs throughout the Yankees minor league affilates, but I wonder exactly what level would benefit Joba the most. I know Halladay was sent down to A ball, but I’m just not sure who’s who at what level in the Yanks’ system.
Wherever his mechanics can be rebuilt into a consistent model is where he should go. But yeah, I agree with you ZZ.
I’m assuming Nardi will beat better mechanics into him.
Betances and Brackman have found their way in Tampa. So maybe that would be a good place to start.
Betances’ delivery has improved a ton this season, which one of the main reasons for his success.
This 10 times!
Bright side: Catch Me If You Can is on TNT. Badass movie.
I was looking for something non-baseball related to watch right now because I do not like baseball right now. That movie rules. Thank you.
I give because I love.
/TSJC’d
very depressing
Was anyone surprised by that 8th inning? I sure wasn’t
Vegas was… they only had him giving up the tying run and not losing the game.
Joe G. cant look anybody in the eye with his “i’m not frustrated” line.
Well, it’s been a time and a half. But everyone here is so depressing right now that it’s bothering even me (and I’m a very depressive type of person).
Night all.