Game 87: In 3-D!


Photo Credit: Elaine Thompson, AP

The next big thing in entertainment is going to be 3-D TV, and YES is making history tonight by broadcasting the first ever baseball game in three dimensions. Granted, you need a fancy 3-D TV set, but if you have one and you’re a Verizon FiOS customer, then you’re in luck. You’ll get to see Mark Teixeira hit baseballs right into your living room. If you don’t, don’t worry, there will be a regular old broadcast as well.

As for the actual game, the Yanks won’t be as lucky as they were yesterday today. Felix Hernandez isn’t getting traded before first pitch, so they’re stuck facing the guy that two-hit them in the Bronx last week. Hopefully the Yanks went to town in the video between then and now and will be better prepared for King Felix tonight.

Here’s your starting nine, on the final 10pm ET start of the season…

Brett Gardner, LF
Nick Swisher, DH – this will be his fifth time DH’ing in the last eight games
Mark Teixeira, 1B
Alex Rodriguez, 3B
Robbie Cano, 2B
Curtis Granderson, CF
Colin Curtis, RF
Frankie Cervelli, C
Ramiro Pena, SS

Javy Vazquez, SP

Three lefties in a row? Joe Girardi‘s gone mad, mad I tells ya!

Anyway, like I said, 10pm ET start tonight with YES carrying the game. I’m not sure how this whole 3-D thing works as far as channels and what not, but I assume everyone tunes into YES until further notice. Enjoy the game, no matter how many dimensions you watch it in.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. Chris says:

    Is anyone planning on watching in 3D? I’m interested to hear some reviews.

  2. Captain Jack says:

    What the fuck is going on in that picture?

  3. bexarama says:

    LOL @ that picture.

  4. Amol says:

    Personally, I’m more excited by the prospect of a Dave Niehaus/Ken Singleton team doing the play-by-play than the 3D.

  5. JMK says:

    With that lineup it looks like Joe decided to start his mini-vacation today.

  6. Brandon W says:

    Colin Curtis, Frankie Cervelli, Ramiro Pena. I would like to say it looks like the Yankees wont get more than 2 hits against Felix tonight, either, but I predict either Cervelli or Pena will have a random 10-hopper ground ball find a hole for some big hit that is purely the result of stupid BABIP, while Cano will have at least 2 line drives caught by perfectly positioned fielders.

    Anyway, with the way Vazquez has been pitching it should still be a fun game to watch. I’ll probably fall asleep halfway through thanks to John Flaherty though…

  7. Melvin was sick =(.

    He says he’s better now, though, and such things are of critical importance to RAB.

    Also, HOLY SHIT Phillies game. And Texas game.

  8. Carlosologist says:

    Wait, FIOs owners can see this game in 3D? AWESOME

    • 28 this year says:

      if they shelled out a few grand for a 3D tv and whatever it costs for glasses which I heard will run a person another 100+ for extras.

  9. Dela G says:

    hahahaha cliff lee getting beat by the orioles…

    and tillman with his 7 ERA shutting out texas


  10. Carlosologist says:

    Over/under on hits by the Yankees: 3

  11. That picture looks like an Anderson Cooper wet dream.

  12. Carlosologist says:

    Did anybody else get 10 free days of MLB.tv for voting Swish into the ASG?

  13. I bet when A-Rod retires from Baseball, he could pass the audition to be a Rockette. He’s definitely got the flexibility in the legs for it.


    Unlike a certain ex-mayor..

  14. Ed says:

    For those with Cablevision, channel 1300 is showing up in the guide info as YES3D and claims to be showing the game. I’m not getting anything at all on the channel, but I have a low end cable package and no 3D TV, so I have no idea if I should be able to see anything.

  15. forensicnucchem says:

    I’m confused. Why is Lorenz there suddenly instead of Singleton?

  16. Dela G says:

    what happened to kenny singleton tonight?

  17. Bob Stone says:

    What the hell good is 3D TV if I have to wear funky 3D glasses? How am I going to watch the game and still see my computer screen so I can chat on RAB?

    Has RAB announced 3D Game Threads to go along with the YES 3D broadcast? Did I miss that somewhere?

  18. Reggie C. says:

    BB Tonight is on. Cliff Lee’s troubles started from the get-go facing COREY PATTERSON. Wow. Cesar Frigging Izturis hit a HR off Lee too. Dayum.

    • Bob Stone says:

      Maybe Lee had jet lag.

    • Apollo22237 says:

      Think about how the New York media would have exploded if we completed the trade for Lee, and he got beat up by the Orioles. It is funny just to think about it. “He can’t pitch in New York!!! The MENTALITY!!!”

  19. Jimmy says:

    No hitter ova!

  20. Mike Axisa says:

    Gotta steal now Brett, capitalize on ever opportunity.

  21. Vinny the Bull says:

    So much grit.

  22. Carlosologist says:

    Ugh. Arizona’s broadcast crew is making their case for Jack Morris in the HOF. They cited him as a bulldog and a big game pitcher.

    • bexarama says:

      Arizona’s broadcast crew is really bad. Also, when Pettitte is eligible for HOF consideration, I cry thinking about how dumb the arguments for him are going to be (especially in comparison to Moose, who is much more deserving) and how I’ll have to say mean things about him to these people.

    • Jack Morris has a HOF case because of one game.

  23. Mike Axisa says:

    Real nice Brett, real nice.

  24. Dela G says:

    damn that sucked

  25. Vinny the Bull says:

    Balls. Could have used that steal on my fantasy team, too.

  26. Reggie C. says:

    Brett should be on 3B right now.

  27. Maybe it sounds like this because he got thrown out, but I don’t like sending Gardner against Felix. You’re not likely to get a lot of base runners against him so running probably isn’t worth it.

    Oh and Javy made Ichiro looked silly.

  28. I hate this myth that Figgins was a utility guy. He played 99, 105, and 154 games at 3B from ’07-’09. That’s not a utility player.

  29. Carlosologist says:

    Keith Hernandez is really creepy. I just saw his Bloomberg Sports commercial. *shudders*

  30. bexarama says:

    Weensy strike zone.

  31. Reggie C. says:

    Did you guys catch this:

    Flaherty says: Branyon “hustles it up” … The music in the stadium playing that moment was the “Hustle” jingle. Flaherty is quick on his feet.

  32. Reggie C. says:

    There’s alot of weird music played at Safeco.

  33. Esteban says:

    Could the Swisher Dhing be because Girardi wanted to put Curtis in the lineup over russo and thames and that curtis is a better fielder than Swisher?

    • Why is the myth of Swisher-as-bad-fielder still being perpetuated?

      • Poopy Pants says:

        Michael Kay is alive, isn’t he?

      • Esteban says:

        I absolutely don’t think Swisher is a bad fielder, and I actually think that he is incredibly improved over last year, my feeling was that maybe curtis is better than he is, but i have no clue, Girardi’s the one making the decision, and I’m just trying to theorize why

    • Vinny the Bull says:

      When and if they get another right-handed OF bat (Werth?), maybe this is our indication that Swish will be the primary DH. Or maybe they want to rest him in advance of the Derby and All-Star game. Or maybe none of the above.

  34. Dela G says:

    i think average is definitely the hardest to get for a triple crown candidate

  35. Mike Axisa says:

    Three of the first five batters have reached base…

  36. Dela G says:

    anyone seeing the blond girl in a red shirt with the chest in the front row? nice

  37. Good AB for Curtis thus far. End it well, Grandy!

  38. Mike Axisa says:

    Meh. At least Grandy worked the count deep.

  39. Bob Lorenz: awesome in every sense of the word.

  40. Mike Axisa says:

    I thought Colin Curtis was the ninth hitter in the lineup. There’s still two more guys to go!

  41. bexarama says:

    So, not Yankee-related, but Scott Kazmir, yikes

  42. Reggie C. says:


    • Jimmy says:

      Should have traded for Montero.

      • Reggie C. says:

        Haha. I had the same thought. At least Smoak didn’t make a 1st pitch out to end the inning like Brantley. Smoak is supposed to be a 30 hr hitting 1B soon, but i wonder if it wouldn’t help Smoak to send him back to AAA.

  43. Vinny the Bull says:

    We have a Curry sighting in the booth. Does anyone remember what Michael Kay sounds like? Or care?

  44. That was the worst swing I’ve ever seen. Ever. In the history of forever.

  45. Reggie C. says:

    holy crap. Pelfrey gives up 12 hits in 4 innings but only gives up 4 runs? Lucky guy.

  46. That pitch crossed high. Bad umpiring.

  47. Reggie C. says:

    That curve was way too high for a K.

  48. Jimmy says:

    That was neck high lol

  49. Jimmy says:


  50. Vinny the Bull says:

    Swish went to the Home Run Derby a few days early, it would seem.

  51. Pat D says:

    Swish Nicker!!!

  52. Carlosologist says:

    Felix knew it as it left the bat. So did Swish.

  53. Swisher is unimpressed with your kingliness, Felix.

  54. Reggie C. says:


    oh right … nevermind.

  55. Mike Axisa says:

    Someone tell Swish the HR Derby is Monday.

  56. bexarama says:

    I like this Javy. I like him a lot.

  57. Carlosologist says:

    Arizona’s bullpen held a lead!

  58. You know what your niche is, Alex? Pound the ball. You’re really good at it.

  59. Vinny the Bull says:

    Cano and A-Rod fool around together, eh?


  60. Mike Axisa says:

    That’s good trivia. I have no idea. I’ll guess Kenny Rogers because he fucking sucked.

  61. phughesisgod(Jesus is saved!) says:

    Uhh, wait so who is in the booth tonight? And, I dont have a 3dtv, and I still am getting the picture on the 3d channel, granted its all screwed up with like split screen. But, I know for sure that these have to be different announcers on each station. Because, I am not hearing Ken Singleton on Yes HD, but I am on Yes 3D

  62. pollo says:

    Answer: Jimmy Key? to the trivia question?

  63. Jimmy says:

    first pitch why!?

  64. It’s nights like this that I wish Posada was in the lineup. Posada/Granderson/Curtis/Pena looks/feels better than Granderson/Curtis/Cervelli/Pena. Damn you, Father Time.

  65. Vinny the Bull says:

    No wonder Javy’s doing well. Two National League lineups on the field tonight.


  66. OH against the Yankees. Totally didn’t see that qualifier.

  67. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Trivia booth fail.

  68. Mike Axisa says:

    The Yankees have a director of mental conditioning?

  69. Reggie C. says:

    Should Cashman consider trading for Russell Branyan if he’s truly available?

  70. Dela G says:

    where the hell did that miss

  71. pollo says:


    Dr. K!

    Fastball, slider, changeup and curve
    Step up to the plate, if you got the nerve

  72. Felix is making Pena look like a Little League player.

  73. Mike Axisa says:

    Oof. Arizona’s first round pick failed his physical, I think that was the 10th or 11th pick. Unsurprisingly, his school ran him into the ground the last few weeks of the season. 150+ pitches a few times.

  74. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Steal attempt, take two?

  75. bexarama says:

    I love Jack Curry

  76. Apollo22237 says:

    Figures, the guy was covering close to 2nd base with Gardner moving.

  77. Mike Axisa says:

    What the hell are with these W.B. Mason commercials? Is there a story you’re supposed to following along with?

    Who fucking but!

  78. Ivan says:

    Nice job their Striking out Mark Teixeira

    Oh Wait!!!

  79. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Seriously I don’t know why this team would need a Cliff Lee rental. This rotation is beast.

    • Reggie C. says:

      The Mariners dont exactly sport a decent lineup. They’re dead last in slugging in the majors. Javy should look damn good against the quad-A lineup.

    • Pat D says:

      Because Hughes has an innings limit, Burnett is inconsistent, supposedly nobody trusts Javy and Pettitte is 38.

      Why is that hard to grasp?

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        Hughes limit is only 180, Burnett has always been inconsistent, trusting Javy has nothing to do with it and Pettitte is having a career year.

        I’m not slow as you are implying I am as I don’t see the point but adding CLiff Lee is a luxury to the second best rotation in baseball. Unless second best isn’t good enough apparently.

        • JobaWockeeZ says:

          Second bets in the AL I mean.

          • Pat D says:

            Hughes will hit that inning limit before the postseason starts, very true, I agree but people always talk about it, and that can change with the snap of your fingers.

            Yes, adding Lee was a luxury. To me it was one they could afford and would make them verrrrrrry hard to be beat in any playoff series.

  80. Dela G says:

    man javy is on fire

    why they thought of getting cliff lee when they dont need him is beyond me

  81. Scooter says:

    Did Cervelli just catch Saunders peeking?
    He initially set up high, and then set up super low and outside

  82. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Should we start getting excited after one inning or two?

  83. Reggie C. says:

    Felix’s pitch count isn’t too high. Hopefully he nets one of those rare CG losses when its all said and done.

  84. Carlosologist says:

    Javy is spinning a gem.

  85. Jimmy says:

    Man you have to be kidding me :(

  86. bonestock94 says:

    Yankees scouting Nolasco, wow..

    • Captain Jack says:

      Javier Vazquez 2.0 basically…I guess they really don’t like Vazquez or Burnett or are worried about Hughes’ innings.

  87. Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

    The Mariners are my new least favorite team (non-Red Sox division).

    • Pat D says:

      Can’t see anyone over taking the Angels for me.

      Also not too fond of the Mets and Phillies, because of where I live, but I can mostly ignore them.

  88. Reggie C. says:

    Damn. Could’ve been a double.

  89. Unnecessary jump is unnecessary.

  90. Dela G says:

    damn that was a great play

  91. Carlosologist says:

    Seattle has two Death to Flying Things OFs.

  92. Ivan says:

    Everytime I c RAB commercial on YES, I feel proud cuz im apart of something that’s pretty cool.

  93. Kevin says:

    Havey’s going deep tonight!

  94. Love Cano’s arm strength.

  95. Carlosologist says:

    A no-hitter would be an awesome way to top off the first half. Combined with the best record in baseball and leading the division by two games.

  96. Pat D says:

    So much for a potential no-no.

  97. Dela G says:

    that changeup is filthy tonight

    i love how we are finally seeing the 2009 version of vasquez, and the arm is getting stronger

  98. Reggie C. says:

    Of course Ichiro busts it up. at least javy’s not hurt.

  99. bexarama says:

    I really do not like Ichiro in any way, shape, or form

    • Pat D says:

      I actually like him more than I used to, not that I necessarily like him.

      He showed a lot of respect at last year’s All-Star Game, by placing flowers on George Sisler’s grave and was supposedly starstruck when he met the president. I thought that was kinda cool.

  100. Frigidevil says:

    Holy crap that was almost awesome

  101. Captain Jack says:

    I’ve always hated Ichiro!. Fucking asshole.

  102. Kevin says:

    uhm… error…

  103. Dela G says:

    that was a bullshit hit call

  104. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    A little hometown cooking on that scoring decision.

  105. Pat D says:

    People, that was a hit. If it doesn’t hit Javy, it’s in center field. Just deal with it and move on. It’s only 1-0.

  106. Dela G says:

    dont worry about ichiro, throw strikes

  107. Carlosologist says:

    For all we hate Ichiro, I think everyone here would appreciate his pre-ASG rant.

  108. JMV says:

    fuck you ichiro!

    (Edited by RAB: Don’t ever use racial slurs again.)

  109. Jimmy says:

    why is he scared to throw now lol.

  110. Dela G says:

    good job javy, you have been performing outstandingly since may 12

  111. Scooter says:

    Javy at 93 pitches through 6 – so you’re ecstatic if he gives you 7 shutout innings here.

    Felix at 79 – so even with 2 grind-out innings, he’s probably going 8.

  112. Sleepykarl says:

    Everytime the Yanks get a no-no going on the west coast, a Suzuki just has to hit a ball off the pitcher to break it up (like Kurt in Hughes vs A’s).

  113. Dela G says:

    ha good to see 62 percent of the people agreed with me on the average

    and i love Bob Lorentz

  114. Pat D says:

    I’d be sending Granderson here.

    • Scooter says:

      Interesting decision if Granderson does get into scoring position – do you pinch-hit for Pena with Jeter?

  115. Captain Jack says:

    My fantasy team could have used the no hitter tonight.

  116. Mike Axisa says:

    What just happened? CF camera went out.

  117. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Err… did they just lose all of their cameras?

  118. bexarama says:

    Uh did anyone else’s TV go insane there for a bit?

  119. Pat D says:

    Woo hoo for technical difficulties. They’ve lost the main camera!

    I blame the 3D shit.

  120. Reggie C. says:

    What the hell happened? Is the camera man sleeping on the job?

  121. YES just had a freak out.

  122. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    They must want us to watch the game in 1D.

  123. Reggie C. says:

    2 outs. Pena at the plate. Gotta send Granderson.

  124. Jimmy says:

    Bottom of the order is full of suck tonight.

  125. Captain Jack says:


    I now wish that Cliff Lee was traded for Montero.

    • Scooter says:

      Hawk Harrelson is right – Mariotti is a hineybird

      • Pat D says:

        Mariotti is just the guy trying to scream the loudest, basically.

        This is somewhat disappointing coming from him. I thought he was a non-NY writer who “got” the Yankees. I remember a few years ago on Around the Horn they brought up the frequent HR calls at Yankee Stadium, and everyone else on the show was like, “It’s stupid, act like you’ve been there before,” and Mariotti was the only one that understood it as part of the culture of Yankee Stadium, as he called it.

  126. Dela G says:

    damn, king felix is on fire

    • bexarama says:

      damn, king felix is on fire King Felix, facing some really, really poor hitters


      • Pat D says:

        Wow, do I not like that FTFY.

        • bexarama says:

          I meant like Pena and Cervelli.

          • Pat D says:

            No, I know what you meant. I just don’t like the “FTFY.” To me, it just comes off so condescending and smug and superior.

            Like when someone did it to you last night.

            • bexarama says:

              Ah, gotcha. It’s a bit of a meme around here, I think. I didn’t take offense at all when someone did that to my post (I don’t even remember what it was), and I certainly don’t mean it in a condescending/smug/I’m so superior way. I don’t think others do, either.

              Plus Dela is awesome, he knows what I mean :D

              • Pat D says:

                Last night it was about 50%/100% of HOF voters regarding Jack Morris and pitching to the score.

                There are some on this site I’m not so sure about after yesterday…

  127. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    “Noodle bat” is my favorite player description ever, btw.

  128. Carlosologist says:

    Good to know I wasn’t the only one whose TV got an extended view of Rob Thompson.

  129. Pat D says:

    Can they just stop showing replays of that hit? It’s still a freaking 1-0 game and now they’ve got 2 guys on!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  130. Reggie C. says:

    Does anybody think that the Tigers are trying to keep a tight lid against media leaks in handling Porcello’s availability.

    Why would the Tigers trade this kid? The rumors just seem alittle crazy but the rumors are out there.

    • bonestock94 says:

      It’s the weirdest rumor yet. Trade your young promising pitcher when you’re contending and his value is at its lowest yet. Absurd.

  131. Come on, Javy! Get one big grounder!

  132. Captain Jack says:


  133. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Suck on the Water.

  134. Pat D says:

    Cervelli starting to annoy me more all the time.

    But then they start playing the Jeopardy music, and that annoys me even more.

  135. Jeff Karstens, Male Model says:

    C’mon Javy, get through this…

  136. Jack says:

    A decent throw gets him.

  137. One more pitch, Javy! Let’s go!

  138. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    YES out again. Hi Brett!

  139. Carlosologist says:

    Again with the cameras?

  140. Pat D says:

    Yep, I’m really blaming this 3D shit for the technical difficulties.

  141. Pat D says:

    Wow, the umps just totally fucked up this at bat.

  142. Dela G says:

    lol give javy an extra pitch!

  143. Um, what just happened?

  144. Mike Axisa says:

    Heh, and here’s the 4-1 pitch…

  145. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Also, hooray for extra strikes.

  146. bexarama says:

    What in the world? #robotumps

  147. Dela G says:

    damn it javy, you should’ve given him a fastball

  148. Jimmy says:

    Come on Javy!

  149. /hopes for crazy Milton not talented Milton

  150. Pat D says:

    Second-guess time.

  151. Carlosologist says:


  152. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    teh Pena!!!11!!

  153. Reggie C. says:

    Pena sure does have nice range.

  154. bonestock94 says:

    oh yes

  155. Mike Axisa says:

    Nice play by Ramiro.

  156. bexarama says:

    NICE, please get insurance runs

  157. Mike Axisa says:

    Does Jeter catch that? I think … no.

  158. Carlosologist says:

    Javy has the best fist pump, non-Pettitte or Joba-divison.

  159. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    A-bomb time.

  160. Jimmy says:

    Great at bat Alex. Come on Cano!

  161. Dela G says:

    great eye, alex

  162. Dela G says:

    what a crap call

    that was a foul ball?

  163. Total Dominication says:

    Just got here. How come, with just 5 base runners the whole game, Javy used 117 pitches through 7? Were there a lot of full counts or something?

  164. Pat D says:

    Here’s the thing with the new Avis commercial. If we are to assume he’s a Red Sox fan, why would he want to be roll called?

  165. BklynJT says:

    WTF the ball hit the dirt. Shouldn’t that be a foul ball???

  166. Total Dominication says:

    Fuck you ump.

  167. Reggie C. says:

    I kinda feel bad for the Avis guy. He too should get his name chanted!

  168. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Ah! The Voice of Michael Kay!

  169. Dear Rabbis:

    Please come to my job and do roll call.


    Matt’s constantly hungry ego

  170. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Joba’s ERA is under 5. My anxiety level, however, is still over 5.

  171. Reggie C. says:

    Here we go…

  172. Total Dominication says:

    Can we get a 6 out save?

  173. Bob Stone says:

    Baseball needs replay with challenges. Baseball needs a Commissioner that is at least a few centuries removed from the dark ages.

    • Pat D says:

      Quote I’d like to see in response to that:

      “But things were so much better in the Dark Ages. We didn’t have things like west coast baseball and pitch counts and integrated baseba…I mean, things were just better.”

  174. 28 in '10 says:

    Not watching the game so I don’t know if this has been mentioned multiple times, but this would be Javy’s 150th career win.

  175. Jimmy says:

    Now Joba is rattled.

  176. Dela G says:

    throw the ball!

  177. Reggie C. says:

    Ichiro likes to pose in the box with that outstretched bat.

    Dang it. Beat out the near GIDP.

  178. Dela G says:

    great play by joba

  179. Total Dominication says:

    Now just get Ichiro “auto-out” Figgins.

  180. Pat D says:

    “Perfect throw?!?”

    My ass.

  181. Reggie C. says:

    Joba’s FB must be frigging straight as an arrow.

  182. mike says:

    I hate fucking Joba

  183. Carlosologist says:

    haha Ichiro wasn’t going to try for third.

  184. damn yanks says:

    OMG … Joba….

  185. Danger Will Robinson.

  186. Total Dominication says:

    Put in Mo, now.

  187. Jimmy says:

    Joba is gonna blow it. Man I’m so sick of this guy.

  188. ARX says:

    We’re not asking for perfection Joba…just consistency. And not making half your appearances harder than they should be :(

  189. Walk him and deal w/Lopez?

  190. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:


    Walk the bastard. Also, D-Rob to the 8th, please.

  191. Total Dominication says:

    I aprove of this.

  192. ARX says:

    Trying to stay positive but Joba is giving me that 3-run double/GS vibe

  193. Pat D says:

    2 bloop singles and piss-poor command.

    Bad luck and bad pitching.

  194. Total Dominication says:


  195. Jimmy says:

    Wow a grand slam to LOPEZ. Send this scrub down.

  196. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Well, that just happened.

  197. Dela G says:

    wow wowowowowowow

  198. bexarama says:

    Well that was terrible.

  199. Aj says:

    I can’t believe it.

  200. Jack says:

    Well shit.

  201. Reggie C. says:



    I’m so sorry Javy. There goes win 150.

  202. Carlosologist says:

    Seven game winning streak over.

  203. So what exactly does Joba have to do to lose the eight inning role?

  204. mike says:

    Joba has got to go! Anywhere, but he’s got to go!

  205. V says:

    I’m so glad Joba ‘earned’ the 8th inning job.

  206. Aj says:

    His ERA was 5 before the grand salami..

  207. ARX says:

    Would it be an overreaction to suggest that Joba might benefit from a stint in Scranton? :(

  208. Bob Stone says:

    Javy deserved better than that. Where was Mo for the 5 out save?

  209. TheLastClown says:

    I say this as a vehement Joba supporter, Joba-as-starter proponent, etc…

    He should be sent down, broken down & rebuilt.

    His mechanics are in shambles, his confidence has to be shaky, and his results have been abhorrent.

    A huge talent is floundering, and the team needs to do something about it.

    • Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

      I 100% agree. The Blue Jays did it to Halladay way back when and Joba is doing no good as a reliever here.

      • Bxbomber says:


        At what point will you guys realize this is what he is and all he ever will be?

    • CT Yankee says:

      Good point.. Very good point

    • Bxbomber says:

      No he needs to be traded immediately for whatever scraps we can get for him. He’s done as a Yankee. He’ll never cut it and never could. There is no salvaging this. Thanks for finally admitting what was obvious to those with eyes last year.

      • TheLastClown says:

        I’ll try responding dispassionately to you.

        Why would you trade for ‘scraps?’ What good are ‘scraps?’

        Why not just relegate him to the minors & eventually release him if you hate him so much?

        But the question is, if you have a mismanaged asset that is hurting you, while at the same time having the potential to help you as a positive, why not correct the management error & try to properly develop your asset?

        But if you hate him to hate him to hate him, then fine, enjoy yourself.

  210. Shdw says:

    Is it too late to trade Joba for Halladay?

  211. This inconsistent bullshit ain’t gonna cut it anymore more.

    The Yanks need to find something to do with this guy because the way its going right now just is not working.

    • TheLastClown says:

      Wow. Changed the handle and everything huh?

      I don’t think he’s done, I don’t think this is his true talent level, and I don’t think the team has done a good job coaxing the potential out of him.

      There is hope for Joba yet, but he needs to be broken down & have his mechanics rebuilt.

      • Reggie C. says:

        If that means we dont see Joba for the rest of the season but see an improved version next season (as a reliever), i think i’d be very cool with that route.

        Gotta trade for a reliever though.

      • By no means he’s done. The kid has too much potential to be pitching this bad. He has some of the best raw stuff in the Majors. I’m not saying he’s a bad pitcher, but change is really in order.

        He DOES need to be sent down for two reasons: 1) To fix his mechanics/way of attacking hitters. 2) Sending him down to AAA from “Set-up Man” will knock him off his feet.

        I still got faith in the kid.

  212. Bxbomber says:

    Every single person who ever pulled a Jenna Jameson on Joba Chamberlain should shoot themselves immediately. I blame you as much as him.

  213. damn yanks says:

    do we have a 3 run rally in our bones????

  214. Reggie C. says:

    Demote Joba and bring back Albie. Promote Robertson to the 8th.

    Joba has no business facing major league hitters in pressurized situation.

  215. Bob Stone says:

    I have an idea. Why don’t the Yankees trade for Cliff Lee, send Joba to the minors and use Hughes in the 8th inning? Oops . . . they tried that.

  216. CT Yankee says:

    Javy should shit in his cornflakes

  217. Aj says:

    Well maybe not send him down, but he can’t be the bridge to Mariano anymore. Maybe the Yanks need to get the RP they’ve needed since Spring.

  218. Thomas Cassidy says:

    I really hate Joba now. After this season, I want him gone.

  219. j says:

    wow… joba… what’s going on with him?

  220. ahind says:

    did anyone notice flash say that the rbi changes the “complexion of the game?” understatement?

  221. Hughesus Christo says:

    Send Joba to AAA to start.
    Send Joba to AAA to start.
    Send Joba to AAA to start.
    Send Joba to AAA to start.
    Send Joba to AAA to start.

  222. Bob Stone says:

    It’s really amazing how far Joba has regressed from his stellar relief debut a couple years ago.

  223. lily-bk says:

    gotta feel for javy…he pitched a great game only to have joba blow another one…

  224. Aj says:

    This bullpen is a disaster. When’s Alfredo Aceves coming back?

  225. Jimmy says:

    The guy was rattled after the bloop single. He needs to be sent down and have his head examined.

    So sick of people making excuses for this guy.

  226. mike says:

    Only Joba could screw up a 48-0 streak of wins after leading in the 8th. WTG Joba!

  227. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Oh good, the bottom of the order!

  228. Aj says:

    Well if a positive is needed. Javy has had a great June and July so far.

  229. baby carlos says:

    The over hyped future fails again. Law of diminishing returns.

    • whozat says:

      Yeah, Phil Hughes and Brett Gardner really suck!

      Oh…wait, establishing two-of-three big leaguers in 2009/2010 is a bad track record? K.

      • baby carlos says:

        Um did I mention those two? Oh wait I didn’t, just the Joba. But thanks for putting words into my mouth. Your a real talent.

    • You must be thrilled.

      • baby carlos says:

        Yes, Brian Cashman, I am thrilled joba came in and sucked to holy high hell. You people and your comments when someone rails on failure crack me up.

        • It’s not just what you say. It’s what you say combined with when you say it and how you say it. You’re absent the entire game yet you just happen to show up when Joba gives up the lead? Please. And, yes, I know you were out the entire night and just got back in and didn’t have time to comment on a Yankee blog on a Saturday night.

          • baby carlos says:

            Oh so my timing is what is wrong. Actually, was just listening to the radio and reading all the brilliant comments by yourself and the other GM’s in training. I know that I will never be a major league GM and I know that showing irrational emotion on this site is forbidden, lest one is ready to accept the wrath of the Cashman clones, but seriously, get over yourself. You and others think that making swipes at people for snide comments of frustrations elevates you to some superior baseball knowledge that the person who made comment doesn’t possess, rather than just looking at the comment as an off the cuff comment of frustration.

            Yet, in reality, those of you have no fucking idea how much someone knows and whether or not they are just enjoying the game and saying what you don’t have the balls to say because your elitist crowd might take away your Hamptons home, God forbid.

            So when you are done staring at yourself in the mirror and admiring all the small points that you think make you the exalted one, let me know. Otherwise, just enjoy the game and let people vent when they feel like venting. To some, baseball is just fun to watch and express frustration as a fan.

  230. Pat D says:

    Smart move by Wakamatsu to leave Hernandez in.

    Oh, then he gives up a double.

    Anyway, what are the chances Hernandez fills one of the vacated spots at the ASG after his last two starts against the Yankees? 1000%?

  231. nyc says:

    Another blown game by Joba…

  232. Aj says:

    Is it just me or does Curtis look like Tom Hanks’ son, Colin Hanks.

  233. damn yanks says:

    No pinch hitter??

  234. Total Dominication says:

    Posada’s on deck, right?

  235. Reggie C. says:


    I bet you Javy is fucking steamed right now. He deserved the W.

  236. ZZ says:

    Joba to Scranton? lol. He is not even a AAA pitcher at this point.

    He needs to go to Tampa and completely rework his way back up as a pitcher.

    I have been saying this since the first month of the season after watching the way he was throwing.

  237. Reggie C. says:

    Of course Felix gets that call. Home town and all.

    • Scooter says:

      The curve ball called strike against Gardner earlier on was an even worse call – it was well over the belt when it crossed the plate

      It ain’t over yet

  238. How in the fuck is that a strike? Oh, right, ’cause Curtis is a rookie.

  239. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Sup Jeets. JoPo up next?

  240. Carlosologist says:

    Will someone explain to me that bullshit call? Tell me how Curtis swung at that.

  241. Pat D says:

    It’s amazing how quickly everyone turns on Joba.

    I know he’s been hugely inconsistent and all, but, damn, it’s not like he’s past hope.

    How many of you thought this on Wednesday?

    • Jimmy says:

      the man blows game after game.

    • Jeff Karstens, Male Model says:

      How QUICKLY?? Have you not been paying attention this year?

    • Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

      It’s the sinking feeling you get when he comes in. I literally said “Ah, crap” when they announced him.

      • Pat D says:

        Not an excuse for all this “I want him traded” crap. I know you didn’t say that yourself.

        Think about this: how much would you get for him if you all think he’s garbage and past hope?

        • Bxbomber says:

          Some other team will think like you guys do and think “we can salvage him as a starter and maybe he’ll be the next Halladay”

          That alone will bring in some value.

    • Bxbomber says:

      He’s past hope. Let’s stop playing these games, trying to salvage him. We should be trying to salvage him in hopes we can sucker some other team into giving us something of value. He’ll never be a prime time performer for the Yankees in any role at all.

  242. Ross in Jersey says:

    Hey guys, here’s a real novel idea. Joba was never that good to begin with. In any case, I don’t know what else he has to do to lose the 8th inning role.

  243. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    A bit of BABIP luck.

  244. Thomas Cassidy says:

    So what happens with Joba? What do the Yankees do after tonight? They HAVE to do something, right?

  245. Total Dominication says:


  246. ARX says:

    I’m trying to think of something suitable Joba could do for the lineup if they bail his ass out here…but my mind is in the gutter.

  247. Jack says:

    How great would a walk-off GritSlam be?

  248. Bob Stone says:


  249. Conor says:

    Remember in spring training when Girardi made a point to say that Joba’s spot wasnt guaranteed? What exactly has he done since then to keep his spot?

  250. Total Dominication says:

    Get the bat to Swish!

  251. Reggie C. says:

    Only Felix and Verlander could still throw 97 after 115 pitches in the 9th.

  252. Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

    Joba has a -.692 WPA today That’s a lot. But he also had a 2.35 FIP and 3.24 xFIP coming into today, so maybe we’re over-reacting. But that sill doesn’t change the fact that he should be starting.

    • Pat D says:

      Still not as bad as Ryan Franklin’s WPA from Thursday, I think it was.

    • ARX says:

      FIP doesn’t count balls in play. As long as he doesn’t walk 100 guys and give up a ton of homers, its actually possible to have a good FIP but suck otherwise.

      • Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

        Good point. From what I can see it’s a combination of giving up a few weak hits, so he’s still getting unlucky, like what we just saw, and then giving up some really hard hit ones. You’re probably right, he’s worse than his FIP suggests.

    • Bxbomber says:

      Jesus fucking christ….

      FIP? xFIP? WPA?

      Do your own eyes tell you anything? Should we just move to computerized simulations?

  253. JPHX says:

    Joba makes 2009 Brad Lidge look impressive

  254. Conor says:

    He should be starting…in AAA.

  255. Reggie C. says:

    Joba didnt just cough up the lead, he made it near impossible for us to tie it back up. 3 runs against Felix is a ridiculous task … Joba’s execution was such FAIL.

  256. Jimmy says:

    omg that was so high!

  257. lily-bk says:

    another bullshit call

    • Scooter says:

      I wanna see Fangraphs’ strike zone after the game – I KNOW Javy did NOT get some of these high-strike calls that Felix is getting

  258. Total Dominication says:

    Fuck yooooooou ump!!!!

  259. Jeff Karstens, Male Model says:

    Wow. Lance Barksdale is Yankee hating.

  260. Yo, Barksdale, it’s where the ball crosses, not where the catcher moves it to. What a fucking joke.

  261. Mark says:

    Ump must have a date.

  262. bexarama says:

    That was a terrible strike call o_O

  263. Carlosologist says:


  264. Total Dominication says:

    Gardy, get the bat to Swish,

  265. Conor says:

    I know everyone plays their role, but by my count, this is the second game this season that Joba has been solely responsible for losing. that is a huge swing in the course of a season, especially in a division as tight as ours.

    • TheLastClown says:

      Honestly, I think there have been more.

      But you think two games is a huge swing in the course of a season?

      That’s approximately 3.2% of the season. Not altogether that huge.

  266. Aj says:

    Cover of the NY POST tomorrow, A-Rod laughing while Yanks are down by 3 in the 9th.

  267. Reggie C. says:

    We should settle the ‘pen hole in the most definitive fashion.

    Trade for Joakim Soria.

  268. At least that was a strike, haha.

  269. Pat D says:

    Swing the fucking bat, Brett.

  270. bonestock94 says:

    Poor Javy never gets help…at least it seems that way to me

  271. Total Dominication says:

    This was horrible, but hey, we can’t win every game

  272. Aj says:

    What’s the celebration about, I’m confused?

  273. Fuck it. Get em’ tomorrow. CC on the hill.

    • Reggie C. says:

      4 game sweep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuck it. get’em tomorrow.

      Tonight should’ve ended with a W.

      • TheLastClown says:

        Yes. Win >>>>>>> Loss. Brilliant.

        It was a heartbreaker. But, coming into the series, you thought *after the Lee drama* that this game was the only one that favored the M’s. It looked like the Yanks were about to buck the odds, but they didn’t in the end. C’est la vie.

        Shitty loss, especially for a Joba lover such as myself. But #28 is on the horizon yet.

        • Pat D says:


          Didn’t expect them to win today, but it still hurts at the end.

          Still, you win tomorrow and you have a 6-1 west coast trip. Can’t hope for much better than that.

      • No shit, but I’m trying to keep a positive attitude bro. That’s how you deal with losses like this.

        So tomorrow, we gotta go out, take the series, and head into the break on a W.

  274. lily-bk says:

    another complete game! shit when was the last time we beat felix??!!

  275. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Hey Mike, can the heading for the Game Recap be “Yo, Fuck Joba”?

  276. Scooter says:

    That Felix fist-pump was Papelbon-esque. Not sure who I’d rather punch in the face right now – Felix or Joba

    • Bob Stone says:

      I go with Joba

    • Total Dominication says:

      Felix just CG’d the streaking Yankees, give him a break.

    • Jimmy says:

      Joba’s a scrub. Felix has heart. Joba and that damn ump.

    • Kit says:

      I suggest a double-punch. They’re both annoying.

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      I had no problem with Felix’s histrionics. The thing is, he didn’t come into a 4-1 game, get three outs and celebrate like a maniac like Papelbon often has. He threw 126 pitches and got 27 outs, and racked up his second complete game win over the Yankees in the last two weeks. Felix is an absolute stud, so I say let him have his fun. It’s unfortunate he beat NYY again, but one has to appreciate just how good this kid is at the same time.

  277. Adam says:

    Did I miss something? Did the Mariners just win the World Series?

    • Aj says:

      Maybe Felix did a milestone? I have no idea.

    • 28 this year says:

      no, its just been years since they won a game. If I recall, the last time they won a game was nine years ago in 2001.

    • K-rizzle says:

      That’s what i was thinking. Did they just win something… besides a game in the middle of the season. By the way felix and lopez were reacting you would of thought they just clinched a trip to the world series.

      • TheLastClown says:

        It was an exciting game. They had a late comeback.

        When the Yankees come back late & win in dramatic fashion, especially with a CG performance from your ace, you get pumped up.

        You feel how dejected we are from the loss? Well they’re that elated from the win.

  278. Bob Stone says:

    King Felix pitched a GREAT game (with a little help from the ump).

  279. ARX says:

    Well then…I wonder if that half inning will even be a blip on the WPA graph

    Oh well, go for 3/4 tomorrow.

  280. bonestock94 says:

    I know berkman is an exception, but this furthers my theory that all men named Lance should be hairdressers.

  281. bexarama says:

    That game was really awful. Fortunately, it’s one game.

    Someone plz do something about Joba kthanx

    • Bob Stone says:

      Sorry to disagree but it was a great game until Joba.

    • Seriuosly, though, what is there to be done? Every possible scenario probably brings about a negative. Let’s run down the list:

      1. Keep running him out there–already hasn’t worked too well.
      2. Relegate him to mop up duty–he gets infrequent work and nothing really gets fixed because of that.
      3. Send him to the minors–he blows away AAA hitters while not really working on that much.

      I guess Option Three is best because at least he could work on his mechanics in a stress free environment, but how likely is he to work on them when he’s just blowing those guys away with his normal routine.

      • bexarama says:

        Option Three really is the best at this point. Halladay him. It can’t make him any worse.

      • Or…

        4. By sending him down to AAA, you actually knock some sense into his head and get him thinking mentally positive.

      • Reggie C. says:

        Your assuming Joba would return to his dominant form from years ago. That’s not something i’d bank on at this point. Joba may have the velocity from ’07, but his location is cringe-worthy bad and seasoned AAA hitters will make hard contact on mistakes.

        • boogie down says:

          AAA hitters making hard contact is actually something I’d welcome. It would force him to re-evaluate the way he pitches and exhaust any and all methods of mechanics rehabilitation to get to where he and most everyone else knows he can be.

          As disappointing as this loss is, maybe it’s the trough that he needs to reach in order for both he and the organization to take notice and do whatever they can to reinvigorate his career.

          I know he isn’t Roy Halladay, and that that comparison has been beaten to death, but it’s still worth noting that even a HOF pitcher isn’t infallible and can come across speed bumps, some major, on his way to success. For Joba, the talent is clearly there to be very good, or even great, and we’ve seen flashes of his potential brilliance this very year! When people say he’s been inconsistent, they are acknowledging this very thing — that he’s had moments of outright dominance but he’s yet to show that he can be depended on to do it each time he’s given the ball.

          All along, the worry was that Joba’s shoulder injury would prevent him from ever regaining the dynamite stuff he showed in ’07 and ’08. While it’s very unfortunate that his control “varies,” to say the least, that is certainly something that is fixable. I firmly believe that if a patient and methodical approach is taken towards fixing his delivery, he’ll reach heights we may not have seen yet. Remember, he was never properly developed in the first place, so giving up on him would be foolish and even unfair.

          BTW, I know that only my first paragraph applies to what you posted but I felt like it would be best for my rant to be kept together rather then strewn about the thread.

          • boogie down says:

            I should add that it seems as though he’s regained the stuff we’d once thought was gone forever.

      • TheLastClown says:

        The point isn’t to send him down to let him ‘attack hitters’ or ‘regain confidence.’

        It’s to totally reshape the mechanics. It’s to get him to pitch differently.

        As he uses new techniques, he won’t immediately blow away hitters. He’ll have to figure it out. As it becomes repeatable, his true talent level will be allowed to come out.

        I don’t think your idea of sending him down is the optimal one. And i’m not sure that there’s any other option to get real value out of this player.

  282. Thomas Cassidy says:

    Guess it’s time to sign Mike Stanton!

  283. Jeff Karstens, Male Model says:

    If I see some dumb kid with a Chamberlain t-shirt on next time I’m at the game, I may have to go all Philly and projectile vomit on him.

    • Pat D says:

      You stay classy.

      • TheLastClown says:

        It’s pretty great. I wear a Joba jersey that my lady got me for my birthday a couple years back. It’s got ‘Joba’ as the lettering, and I take so much heat when I go to games it’s comical.

        I live in L.A., so I go mostly to Yankee-Angels games. I was also at the final Yankee-Dodgers series, the *maybe* most exciting game of the season.

        But I get as much hear from Yankee fans as from fans of the other club. The opposition fans think he’s overrated, etc., but the Yankee fans, especially those who’ve never heard of this blog, really seem to hate him. They have no idea of how fast he was rushed, how little he developed, and so on.

        It just sucks, because honed properly, he could be a historic Yankee weapon, but as is, he just looks embarrassing.

  284. Conor says:

    Hey lily, we beat Felix tonight.

  285. As if this loss wasn’t bad enough, now we have Eduardo perez saying that the Yankees should move Hughes to the 8th inning role! I almost cried when I heard that.

  286. bonestock94 says:

    Silver lining: Jose Lopez is one my fantasy team. Great time to finally produce you sack of shit!

  287. Aj says:

    This scrap metal commercial makes me so angry when the Yanks don’t win. Why would a teenage girl call another teenage girl about a pile of scrap metal in her driveway?

  288. Dela G says:

    damn, frustrating loss

    can we bring up juan miranda plz

  289. ZZ says:

    Sending Joba to AAA is pointless.

    He is not going to learn anything in AAA or iron out his mechanics.

    At this point, he needs (needed to for months IMO) to be sent down to a lower level like Tampa and learn how to pitch/refine his mechanics.

    He is basically an unpolished pitcher right now with terrible mechanics.

    His problems are those you see in A ball pitchers.

    • Bob Stone says:

      So true.

    • At this point, he needs (needed to for months IMO) to be sent down to a lower level like Tampa and learn how to pitch/refine his mechanics.


      • baby carlos says:

        exactly how is his comment Halladay’d?

        • bexarama says:

          That’s what they did to Halladay in 2000? when he was really sucking.

        • Angelo says:

          Halladay had to do this.

        • baby carlos says:

          ahh… did not remember that. Thank you for the reminder. But the comparison of Joba to Halliday is like saying an apple and an orange are the same thing.

          • TheLastClown says:

            It’s really not. If you were a Toronto fan, and you had to suffer through the bad Halladay, you would react just thisly.

            And this justly. Which is not justly at all.

            You’d have no idea of his true talent level, and you’d let your reactionarianism *my word* blind you to the true worth of a disguised asset.

            Did you not see some of Joba’s shutdown starts in 2008?

            I just don’t get why it’s fashionable to hate the guy. Hughes had quite a few struggles before he dominated the ‘pen last year. But he’s the Phranchise, I guess. And he also got proper time to develop in the minors.

          • Angelo says:

            Well, they both had great potential when they started out. So the comparison isn’t way off.

            And an Orange and an Apple are still both fruits, so there are comparisons. It’s not like what Matt said wasn’t fitting.

    • TheLastClown says:

      I’m not exactly well versed in the coaching staffs throughout the Yankees minor league affilates, but I wonder exactly what level would benefit Joba the most. I know Halladay was sent down to A ball, but I’m just not sure who’s who at what level in the Yanks’ system.

      Wherever his mechanics can be rebuilt into a consistent model is where he should go. But yeah, I agree with you ZZ.

    • Angelo says:

      This 10 times!

  290. Bright side: Catch Me If You Can is on TNT. Badass movie.

  291. Jr says:

    very depressing

  292. BklynJT says:

    Was anyone surprised by that 8th inning? I sure wasn’t

  293. Reggie C. says:

    Joe G. cant look anybody in the eye with his “i’m not frustrated” line.

  294. Pat D says:

    Well, it’s been a time and a half. But everyone here is so depressing right now that it’s bothering even me (and I’m a very depressive type of person).

    Night all.

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